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into force very quickly social distancing how you manage your life the question animals will speak only activities social activities cultural activities and seem to accept that the extraordinary way in it in a sense i don't myself subscribes idea that it was a preplanned awful crew but it has revealed us princeton one of our chief expose of invitingly open yes said yesterday. the chinese in a sense pioneered a way of showing how easy it was to get people to conform to extraordinary restrictions with very very little resistance and this may be necessary to control a contagious disease but what else could it in a sense set off that's the real danger in the future i think you know you know mark it's not i'm also a scribe who i don't believe this is intentional but obviously for many in power and in the business world and in social media this is an opportunity they just can't let pass go ahead and well it says it's an interface needs therapy it's when it's it's when seen as being extremely important long vast swathes of the global
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population in the united states on who we have seen the british government's refuse to adopt measures to protect livelihoods and as a result in 20 transit close to 1000000 british he has lost their jobs so we have witnessed the british government's systematically loads civil liberties in its so-called points against what is known as 9 st compare and contrast these are how the british parties have responded to cope with 9 seeing how the russian what it sees absconds it's quite benign seeing in russia divorcing governments has made it's a very clear there will be no restrictions on civil liberties as a man who isn't made it's also abundantly clear that if russians want to have 'd the massing they may if they do not want to have its bendable be notification it's . placed on their lives that is not what we are seeing in britain the british
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government is toying with the idea of on the one hand making that perhaps a mandatory oh that's on the other hand they might not make it mandatory however what they are implying is that if you do not have to back same you may be refused entry to education hospitals and what places but i also want to have that in 2020 it has also been business as usual so to speak to some countries so for example america has continued to consider it's an economic war against iraq america has a tendency to weaken the russian federation in your by for example since it instigates occurred in balad russia and by redeploying american forces from germany to poland which is a flagrant violation of the nato russia pounds and that's all 997 so yes 2020 has
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been a shock and they are calling it some countries have been used to. attempts to achieve our objectives in the most malignant sort matters and will never never let a crisis go to waste that's what we learned in 2020 you know george tonight on the gaggle were talking about this phenomenon of how except in. western polities have been to these restrictions here and i'd like to throw into it is that you know then the media is playing a very. negative role through all of this because when i when i see the media questioning authority you know why don't you institute it earlier what why was it more stringent i mean there's no questioning about you know is this miss make any sense because this woman in california has an outdoor cafe but she can operate in but within a stone's throw in the hollywood production company has this almost the identical cow bank but they can operate you know that only a very small number of people immediately. the big glaring contradiction here but
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media for the most part then is just you know saluting and doing what they're told because if the science go ahead george oh that's absolutely right and mark correct response to that fascinating interview with professor neil ferguson in which he's saying that the idea for the lockdowns really came from china and while the chinese were doing is people such as ferguson didn't really believe you could do this in the way the stories go to our great idea but of course it wouldn't work in the west because we're also used to democracy and freedom and we wouldn't tolerate governments telling us what to do when he turns out that the western public was very tolerant. and that i think is really the most shocking development because. the science underlying code with is very very questionable i mean everything we've known about the disease just yes that the lockdown the economic
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dislocations and everything has to be wildly disproportionate to the threat that the disease actually poses i mean we know the average age of the beds of disease we know that. most of the public overwhelming majority of the public if they get the virus they will make a full speedy recovery from it yet despite all of that there is still this pressure on these most directly in measures and that's why it is very reasonable the speculators us do well in the public be prepared for something else is this now going to be the new normal of draconian social reorganization all the desired goals of liberals and of course i mean you know i have talked about and also here on crosswalk about the great reset tonight and i'll be see that means different things to different people but no what why do you think what's different for a public for so clients so all of this and i don't know if there's a real answer for it yet. ok you can make all of us are shocked by it yeah well
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time will tell if they remain plan but i think it's worth thinking about in the context even all of the types of mass casualty incidents to use those horrible phrases western countries not least in my states have become very risk averse to casualties in war for their own side so we have massive bombardment bombing and cruise missiles and so on and we have 0 casualties on our side but perhaps tens of thousands on the other and in a sense we're now seeing this as an epidemiological phenomenon that we don't feel able to sustain a loss of life in the way that previous flu pandemics caused in the 20th century now this may be in a certain way a good sign that we're becoming more humane but it's also if you like the me generation to isn't it it's because they still threat to me that therefore i demand that everybody conform to very strict provisions of behavior which may in fact cause collateral damage on a huge scale to use military term because we may see people forced into unemployment to destitution despair and suicide and so the downsides all.
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i think can become more apparent and then we'll have to ask is this cultural revolution that we think we've been saying all apes sati that is pliable to the fear all visible enemy will actually remain passive and obedient if you really have a very large scale of unemployment in particular affecting a lot of younger people who are already entering a very precarious economic system already and then find that they don't even it went to the economic system of the bottom rungs because the bottom rungs of the whole service sector all the sort of things that student age and young twenty's people who have been kicked away. is this mantra also of safety 1st which on its face i think obviously makes sense you should use it here but also when it does is in the way that is being propounded is that. there is no risk taking and you kind of you're absolved of any kind of personal responsibility of your hate here i think. this is one of the thing the miscalculations of these lockdowns in
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the west is that you know you know be responsible take care of your health and be aware of other people's health care and you know their way the way they've done it is that you know you know forcing a self induced coma for the economy that's not safety 1st as markets already pointed out we have substance abuse we have suicide we have families being broken up and then the despair of the economic situation so this mantra of safety 1st has been taken to bars an overreach in my opinion because it takes responsibility for away from the individual go ahead marcus and can i say 1st of all that professor knew ferguson who is being referred to in this program already by a judge and mock has been a city for us support of lockdowns if he did not sit here so the friends and himself and i would also add that new focus and gives a whole new meaning to the words incompetence now as regards the british people the
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british people paid as a hope lost the ability to think by for independently and critically many is ago and i would largely put that down to the diabolical effects off a neo liberal economics and neo liberal cultural values and i used to our cultural in a very loose way the average british passenger today pizza is more interested in reality television in supply pretty culture in the sexuality of people on television as opposed to what is going on around them in society indeed the average british person hates us is prepared to listen to simpletons like piers morgan and phillip schofield who know the nothing about international relations they know nothing about politics they know nothing of. if i had all the teeth but they turned
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some of the kids who consume know about syria to know about any other aspects of international affairs as opposed to listen it's a real it's a real expert market i would posit that's why these people have their jobs ok i mean it's no mistake ok i mean maybe now and this is who the elites turn to to. explain and expand their agenda. in a societal wind basis here i gentleman wait i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break well can you our discussion on the covert crisis and its legacy stay. as it is and. other means to introduce.
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a world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the death. or a make in the shallows. welcome back to cross talk were all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're talking about the impact of the crisis. when i was going to back to georgia in budapest there's already been mentioned in this program here and something i want to talk about is the absolute incompetence of the elites that have been making decisions about how we live and how we should live into the future and and the way i look at it is that these decisions for us are very self-serving all these people that talk about the science on cable they
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all got a paycheck uninterrupted during all of this ok uninterrupted ok but then let's see the downside i mean the way i look at it is that it's working people it's middle class families and middle class values i would even go as far as say about i've been crushed during all this and on top and some of the most basic things that will bring us all together that prior to this we had even if we're on the left or the right we believe in freedom of speech freedom of assembly breed among worship and all these things are being put to a test and and there's not another pushback as far as i'm concerned because you take these things away in a very hard to get back go ahead george. exactly right that. right now yes. we can begin to. think that has emerged and that's going to cope with crisis is that the elites now use the bully. against the public. really it's like
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everything is the public for the public isn't being careful enough to know where in ma sufficiently they are going out too much says socialising with my fellow maintaining the distance if ever it's the people the terrible rate of more. that i'll be behaving the more and then we see the parallel with the environmental hysteria over global warming is syria will be on it that terrible people are being punished for their way for ways to live excessive addiction to car dishwashers washing machine. can you will live thought and they must be punished and that really was the whole parable about there's a lot of work to the public of the old bill of goods they were resistant to the environmental coercion to have been resistant to this because they got really bad that this is going to be a horrific the laying weight of the nation to the well and then they broke into
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this and as you say once you give up these breeds and very hard to get them back because the government are in love with betty live from the rollout of the vaccine but nothing is going to change that it is good that you know you think you're going to get the vaccine and you know you will be able to do anything without the vaccine but you're still going to have to make days go who doesn't think you will have to go around wearing a mosque and just to keep a lockdown so no prospects of any opening of luck and so. things like the government have the power and they are going to give it up without you know mark a cynic would say and i'm sensing that this is a template for whatever is the term determined to be next. the climate crisis ok we have to be we have to deal with the name the movement climate so i'm not here to discuss the you know made climate crisis on its own but it's you know people are being conditioned there. paradigm out there there is no use in the downs
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and there is the power of the state and again the media shoring up in its agenda and its ideology is martin's already pointed out your me does that worry you you know it you know. it it's a form of social control because you know you know these people think they're doing the right they know me just like george and you know we are going to get rid of your carbon footprint and then a good night you know well i mean if you're a truck driver you're going to have to me. in a sense what we've seen in the last 20 or 30 years is the emergence of a new cureton ism which has nothing to do with classic characters in terms of regulating people's morality or sexuality indeed it is very almost it of that but on all these other issues it is very strict and it's good for your soul that you would discipline the new pay attention to the rules and that any breach of the rules meets you to complete social ostracism and so in that sense we see a kind of midst 16th century kill christmas because it's wicked stop above 80 not
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because you want help but because you want to stop the people enjoying it that kind of mentality that kind of cycle which has come back with a vengeance through these processes and of course there's enough problem calls by covered or there's another. possibility all environmental problems caused by changes in the climate to give to people who have without realizing it as you say cycle to motivation to control and discipline and even punishment and so on to say to make them feel that they are doing the right thing the anybody who opposes them doesn't need to listen to and i think this is the problem coming to a point about the science science has advanced through the dissident galileo would never been allowed to be published in a money journal today because the ptolemaic consensus would have said but he's outside all consensus same with einstein's are in fact it's always the old bulls lunatics are the ones who make progress and then they become the orthodoxy although it is become ill to talk c.m.l. quite often i write but it's a certain point as we saw with newton's physics it turns out not. adequate and
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einstein can replace it on star now just seems a bit old hat to and this is i think about going for the people latching on to something that gives them a cow as if used to be a religious thing but now it's sonce is the totem sonce has become the model to everything must be sacrificed by people who have. actually what is saddam's. made the big thing that's absolutely right marcus i mean it this is one of the great tragedies of this year is that the science as people like to say has been politicized i mean you can if you can you serve science in the service of your agenda i mean and i mean it in so many different ways and this is this is this illusion many people have has been where is the science where you know you still have your leads fighting on their private jets but i'm i'm not supposed to drive my car from this hour at this hour i mean i mean it's so glaring for some people here and it does go back down to where this sense of social control that and they truly believe it's a positive impairment and i think that's i think that's what really scares me
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because these are like ideologically possessed people that really really think that they're really close helping you but it doesn't change their lifestyles back to rich people in this world that got a far more richer during this crisis here is really one of the great oddities of this crisis as well go ahead marc marcus and saks and i had a case about for the last 20 years. parts equal british establishment people afterwards has been the shooter in a hell it's in. its agenda and i would consent that's why it's a 20 has been canceled for the british establishment and it's all for this agenda and i believe that mainstream media. has really that message is very very clear to those of us in the u.k. who shrink person independent read and critically because what we have seen.
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britain's friends in transit is the media to not buy a platform to x. it's invest billions who have a difference of opinion on what is not excluded 9 seem to have a distance opinion on a lot downs on social distance in and the web in the halls trace mosques now pizza whenever the major denier platform needs an expert it's a nasty words the a lot bells go off in my head and it doesn't matter what the subject salary is it could be russia it could be syria it could be north korea it could be iran it could be the british major wasted not a platform and indeed batesville a fight anyone who challenges the british official merits it on countries such as russia or iraq that should be most this current seen just insects and people who think independently and critically and that is what we have seen in 2020 brits in
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concert in what is known as night saying if you have a difference of opinion on the virus you have been demonized you have been vilified so you are going to choose the being mentally ill you aren't serious or endangering the lives of tens of millions of britons even people like hillary jones and profess a new status and broke the lock downs which states are often the cold war now if that is not a concern some people then i submit to you these people do not even have single brains out between now you know george you and i you know when we have a top about the passing of the great stephen cohen here and i think all of us would agree and most of our audience if not all of our audience. think i'm steven cohen is one of the great russianness of our time but how much time did he get on the airwaves of a preciously little though you have other people that have no idea where russia is . outing up on an on on twitter all the time george is one of the things because
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we're rapidly running on time here is that a lot of these elites they presume wars in the name of democracy here but where has been the democracy in all of these shutdowns and lock downs i mean you have to sit here and he of the executive and there's been a little bit of pushback on that and i'm. glad to see it but it's only happening after almost a year of this year but at the end of the day it's not what the people want it's what they are told and george and i know that you know american experience the best mean you have these. governors that are essentially functioning as dictators i mean an executive order can can't doesn't necessarily make it constitutional and this is something that's being challenge go ahead george. exactly and what we normally think of in the practice of democracies is negative ration elected representatives debate and pall mall but instead what we have in the united states or the united
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kingdom is the big government big that which from one day to the leg becomes more and the police. or with some brutality and protests are and every the goal of the one and with the goal posts of constantly being moved. exactly and that's what we've been talking about the strong i think well what is the science there is extensive a disagreement about coded as to whether really any. i'm of the areas there's a group of coronaviruses of the been around forever that the debate about them often about whether the mafia use or i'm one of the scientists will say that the camp would meet with going like that people are suffering from all kinds of. psychological problems something to be increasing that also is fine but with people it brian but i mean the scientists who support their view most of the sciences who
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are presenting a very different view about the enable the coercion to take place and i was going to budget in the mainstream media for. all of the social media which was supposed to provide a little girl as it were for a vehicle was in the name of you know whatever is the reigning ideology well it's in preparing interesting gentlemen i hope you'll join me here on cross not exactly one year from now and we'll find out if what we've been talking about was a bad year or just the beginning of a trend that none of us have any control over here i want to thank my guests in london upset in budapest one thing our viewers are watching us here are do you see an experiment remember.
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an entire village in alaska has had to if another country threaten the wife of an american. we do everything in our power to protect. wanted me to skipping climate change poses the same threat right now alaska does seem some of the fuss just coastal erosion in the world we lost about 35 feet. 35 feet of ground in just about 3 months while we were measuring. is fast enough pain is the river is 35 closer than how long that was for i don't think we're part of earth for. a look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. i
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a stake in the system. of the really interesting back and think about the longer deeper history housings men in the united states not just that question of the american dream but the bigger question of who the dream is for. ha ha ha.
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the headlines in intensive care units in california fail up during the pandemic clinics are forced to set up a makeshift camp site while nurse tells us just about the situation has become. we're stuck now we were running low on oxygen on supply of patients in overflow overflow overflow areas. just leave the vaccinations begin for people over 60 against a big 19 off the health ministry approve the jobsite deal and efficacy and vaccinations are being rolled up to put people. on the mission. i think we did not have enough feedback on the specs and at the moment i think everyone should take it.

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