about how i reflect upon this year let me just read you a couple of bold points health dictatorship fear has become central to our lives we go from one crisis to the next crisis it is an authoritarians dream come true. good faith thinking is gone social media using censorship and that science which has been completely discredited there is no such thing as the science the media will tell you otherwise and probably most importantly what has happened to the social contract now i just read you 123-4567 things take one of the. well i think we could begin really with as you say the science in a sense human experience if we think back to 100 years ago when the great spanish flu epidemic or even 60 years ago and so hong kong flu. the extraordinary thing is the degree to which the current epidemic has led to huge social changes and what social disciplinary changes that those didn't have and in

a sense also they didn't really have a legacy did they they were huge events catastrophic events but they cost. us i think the ability interesting thing here and it comes to hope social discipline question if the cultural changes is that across the world certainly across the northern hemisphere in which they australasia people are adapting to a whole new set of behavioral rules which have come into force very quickly social distancing how you manage your life the economic activities social activities cultural activities and seem to accept that in an extraordinary way and it in a sense i don't myself subscribe to the idea that it was a pre-planned or thought through but it has revealed us for instance one of our chief expose of advising the government yes said yesterday. the chinese in a sense pioneered a way of showing how easy it was to get people to conform to extraordinary restrictions with very very little resistance and this may be necessary to control

a contagious disease what else could it in a sense set off that's the real danger in the future i think you know and you know mark it's not i also as dr who i don't believe this is attentional but obviously for many in power and in the business world and in social media this is an opportunity they just can't let pass go ahead and when they sense a need to be it's when it's when seen as being it's really hard long. occupation in the united states although we have seen the british government's refused sort of measures to protect its livelihoods and as a result in science its friends. close to one a 1000000 british he has lost their jobs so from all we have witnessed the british government's systematically loads civil liberties in its some crimes clients against what is known as covert 9 st compare and contrast how the british parties

have responded to cohabit 9 seeing how the russian authorities have responded it's a quite benign seeing in russia devotion government has made its a very clear there will be no restrictions on civil liberties comprising meant to its inmates it's also abundantly clear that if russians want to have the massing they made if they do not want to have its bend there will be no notification is placed on their lives that is not what we are seeing in britain the british government is toying with the idea of on the one hand making that statement it's free oh it's on the other hand they might not make it mandatory however what they are implying is that if you do not have the vaccine you may be refused entry to education hospitals and what places but i also want to have that in 2020 it is also being business as usual so to speak to some countries say for example america has continued to consider it's an economic war against iran america has

a tendency to weaken the russian federation in your by for example tensions instigates occur in belorussia and by redeploying american forces from germany to poland which is a flagrant violation of the nato russia pounding that's all 997 so yes 2020 has been a shock and they are poorly and yet some countries have continued to ask hence sirrah and she just says in the most milligan it's a matter as there will never never let a crisis go to waste that's what we learned in 2. 20 you know george you night on the gaggle were talking about this phenomenon of how except in. western apologies have been to these restrictions here and i'd like to throw into it is that you know that the media is playing a very. negative role through all of this because when i when i see the media

questioning authority saying why didn't you instituted earlier what why was it more stringent i mean it's a there's no questioning about you know is this miss make any sense because this woman in california has an outdoor accounting but she can operate it but within a stone's throw away in the hollywood production company has this almost the identical campaign but they can operate you know that only a very small number of people in the media have looked at the glaring contradiction here but media for the most part and is just you know saluting and doing what they're told because it's the science go ahead george oh that's absolutely right and mock directive ones do that if i have a meeting interview with the professor neil ferguson. in which he's saying that the idea of a lockdown is really came from china and while the chinese were doing it people thought of ferguson been really believe you could do this in the west. great idea but if it were to work in the west because we're also used to democracy and for me

them and we wouldn't tolerate government telling us what was there what he found out that the western public was very follower of. and that i think is really. shocking development because. the science underlying cope with is very very questionable i mean everything we've known about the disease suggests that the lockdowns the economic dislocations and everything has been wildly disproportionate to the threat of the disease actually poses i mean we know the average age of the beds of these we know that. most. the public overwhelming majority of the public if they get the virus they will make a full speedy recovery from it yet despite all of that there is hope with russia well these most draconian measures and that's why it is very reasonable to speculate well in the public be prepared for something else this is now going to be

the new normal draconian social reorganization all the desired goals were growth and of course i mean i talked about in there also hearing about the great reset in the home p.c. that means different things to different people well what do you think was to rebrand a public sphere so pliant saw all of this shit and i don't know if there's a real answer for it yet ok because all of us are shocked by it. con will tell if they remain plan but i think it's worth thinking about in the context even all of the types of mass casualty incidents to use those horrible phrases western countries not least in my states have become very risk averse to casualties in war for their own side so we have massive bombardment bombing and cruise missiles and so on and we have 0 casualties on our side perhaps tens of thousands on the other and in a sense we're now seeing this as an epidemiological phenomenon that we don't feel able to sustain a loss of life in the way that previous flu pandemics caused in the 20th century

now this may be in a certain way a good sign that we're becoming more humane but it's also if you like the me generation to isn't it it's because this is a threat to me that therefore i demand that everybody conform to very strict conditions of behavior which may in fact cause collateral damage on a huge scale to use military term because we may see vast numbers of people forced into unemployment to destitution despair and suicide and so the downsides of law. i think can become more apparent and then we have to ask is this cultural revolution that we think we've been saying all apes sati that is pliable to the fear of an invisible enemy with. actually remain passive and to be didn't if you really have a very low scale of unemployment in particular affecting a lot of younger people who are already entering a very precarious economic system already and then find that they don't even it went to the economic system of the baltimore rungs because the bottom rungs of the whole service sector all those who do things that student age and young twenty's people who have been kicked away. this mantra also of safety 1st which on

its face i think obviously makes sense you should he care but also when it does is in the way that is being propounded is that you there is no risk taking take and you kind of about your absolved of any kind of personal responsibility of your behavior i think this is one of the think the miscalculations of these lockdowns in the west is that you know you don't be responsible take care of your health and be aware of other people's health care and you know their weight the way they've done it is that you know you know forcing a self induced coma for the economy that's not safety 1st is markets 40 point now we have substance abuse we have suicide we have families being broken up and then the despair of the economic situation so this mantra of safety 1st has been taken to bars an overreach in my opinion because it takes responsibility for away from the individual go ahead marcus and i say 1st of all it's us that profess

a new focus and who is being decided in this program already by and lot has been a sin for us suppose lockdowns if he did not sits here so the sons in law himself and i would also add that new focus and gives a whole new meaning to the well it's incompetence now let's recall it's the british people ringback the british people paid as a whole lost the ability to think by for independently and critically many is a go and i would launch an aid. put that down to the diabolical effects all for neo liberal economics and neo liberal cultural values and i use the word cultural in a very loose way the average british passengers at a pizza is more interested in reality television in supply pretty culture in the

sexuality of people on television as opposed to what is going on around them in society indeed the average british person hates us is prepared to listen to simpletons like piers morgan and phillip schofield who know the nothing about international relations they know nothing about politics they know nothing about viola g. but they want someone that pays more concerned now about syria to know about any other aspects of international affairs as opposed to listen it's a real it's a real expert market i would posit that why these people have their jobs ok i mean that it's no mistake ok i mean maybe now and this is who the elites turn to to. explain and expand their agenda unless i'm a societal wide basis here i gentleman wait i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break well can you our discussion on the kobe

crisis and its legacy stay with r.t. . when i will show him from. my old role just don't call. me i'll get to see how it does go to the county council and in detroit because the trail. when somebody find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. max keiser this is the kaiser report with stacy herbert an special year end guest misfires. i must say the kind of sensitivity to world events of markets rarely seen anywhere except here on kaiser

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welcome back to cross talk where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're talking about the impact of the crisis. when i was going to back to georgia in budapest there's already been mentioned in this program here and something i want to talk about is the absolute incompetence of the elites that have been making decisions about how we live and how we should live into the future and and the way i look at it is that these decisions 1st of all are very self-serving all these people that talk about science on cable they all got a paycheck uninterrupted during all of this ok. uninterrupted ok but then let's see the downside i mean the way i look at it is it is working people if you are the boss families and middle class values i would even go 'd as far as say that i've been crushed during all this and all suffered some of the most basic things that

don't bring us all together that prior to this we had even if we're on the left or the right we believe in freedom of speech freedom of assembly breed them of worship and all these things are being put to a test and and there's not an a footpath as far as i'm concerned because you take these things away they're very hard to get back go ahead george well that's exactly right that's. right knee and i think of the whole situation because the one who. think that has emerged in this during the covert crisis is that the elite has used the bully and coercion against the public is really had by everything is the public for the public isn't being careful enough to know where in ma sufficiently they're going out too much socializing too much without maintaining the distance of it ever it's the people the terrible great unwashed man that'll be behaving the more and then we see the parallel with the environment for his burial the global warming is it will be on it

that terrible people are being punished for their way for way excessive addiction to cause dishwashers washing machines or that can you live thought and they must be punished and that really was the whole parable about there's a lot of work to the public a being pulled a bill of goods they were resistant to the environmental cause or should have been resistant to this because they got really bad that this is going to be a horrific the laying weight of the nation to the well and then they bought into that and as you say once you give up the reason they're able to get them back. because the government are in what was very clear from the rollout of the back but nothing is going to change. that you know you're going to get the back knee and you know you won't be able to do anything without exactly but you're still going to

have to make days. you will have to go around wearing a mock i'm going to sneak people locked down no prospect of any opening a lot and so i. think like the government have been well and they are going to give it up without you know mark a cynic would say and i'm saying that this is a template for whatever is the term determined to be next. the climate crisis ok we have you know we have to deal with the moving climate i'm not here to discuss the you know climate crisis and that on its own but it you know people are being conditioned there is a paradigm out there there's dues and the job don't and there's the power of the state and again the media suring up the state and its agenda and its ideology is martin's already pointed out here. does that worry you you know if you know. it's a form of social control because you know you know these people think they're doing

the right thing i mean just like george said you know we were going to get rid of your carbon footprint and then a good idea well i mean if you're a truck driver you're going to have this huge going to go ahead in a sense what we've seen in the last 20 or 30 years is the emergence of a new cureton ism which has nothing to do with the classic court system in terms of regulation people's morality or sexuality indeed it is very the opposite of that but almost all these other issues it is very strict and it's good people so you were disciplined and you pay attention to the rules and any breach of the rules needs to complete social ostracism and so in that sense we see a kind of mid 16th century till christmas because it's we could stop the baiting not because you want help because you want to stop the people enjoying it that kind of man. down to that kind of cycle which is come back with a vengeance through these processes and of course there's another problem caused by culprit or there's another. possibility all environmental problems caused by changes in the climate to give to people who have without perhaps realising it as

you say cycle to motivation to control and discipline and even punishment and so on to say to make them feel that they are doing the right thing the anybody who opposes them doesn't need to listen to and i think this is the group i'm coming to a point about the science science has advanced through the dissident galileo would never been allowed to be published in a money journal today because the ptolemaic consensus would have said but he's outside all consensus same with einstein so it's fact it's always the old bulls lunatics who are the ones who make progress and then they become the orthodox or the artist become ill to see them quite often i write but at a certain point as we saw with newton's physics it turns out not to be adequate and einstein can replace it and einstein now just seems a bit old hat to and this is i think the great danger of the people latching on to something that gives them a talisman it used to be a religious thing but now it's science is the totem sonce has become a model to everything must be sacrificed by people who have a scientist idea actually what is science. made of it think that's absolutely right

marcus i mean it this is one of the great tragedies of this year's age the science as people like to say has been politicized i mean you can if you can you serve science in the service of your agenda i mean it i mean in so many different ways and this is this is this allusion in people has been where is the science where you know you still have your lead sliding around their private jets but i'm not supposed to drive my car from this hour at this hour i mean i mean it's so glaring for some people here and it does go back down to where this sense of social control that and they truly believe it's a positive impairment and i think that's i think that's what really scares me because these are like ideologically possessed people that really. they really think that they're really close to helping you but it doesn't change their lifestyles happened to rich people in this world that got a far more richer during this crisis here is really one of the great oddities of this crisis as well go ahead were arcus incessantly the case needs that for the

last 20 years and sorry the british and parties of the british establishment people after it's has been the shooter in a hellish in fact he notes agenda and i would consent bets once in 20 has been cancelled for the british establishment and it's all for this agenda and i believe that mainstream rejecting me your tape has really that message very very clear to those of us in the u.k. who shrink person independent read and critically because what we have seen in britain's friends in transit is the media to not buy a platform to meet him x. it's invest millions who have a difference of opinion on what is known as quote benign seem to have a distance opinion on a lot downs on social distance in and where in the halls trace mosques now pizza

whenever the major denier platform needs an expert it's a nasty winds the a lot of bells go off in my head and it doesn't matter what the subject area really is it could be a bus or it could be syria it could be north korea it could be iran it could be the british major wasted not a platform and indeed batesville a fight anyone who challenges the british and american on countries such as russia or hong that should be most this currents in defense nonsense and people who think independently and critically and that is what we have seen in 2020 in britain concerning what is known as current night saying if you haven't. since opinion on the far east you have been demonized you have been since like you aren't she was the being mentally ill you aren't serious or endangered the lives of tens of millions of brits and even people like hillary johnson professor new products and

broke the lock downs which states are often the cool sport now is not is not a concern some people then i see. these people doing also you can have a sink drain so between now you know george you and i you know we have talked about the passing of the great stephen cohen here and i think all of us would agree and most of our audience if not all of our audience. think of stephen cohen as one of the great russianness of our time but how much time did he get on the airwaves preciously little though you have other people that have no idea where russia is fighting off on and on on twitter all the time george in one of the things because we're rapidly running on time here is that a lot of these elites they presume wars in the name of democracy here but where has been the democracy in all of these shutdowns and lock downs i mean you have to sit here in the of the executive and and there's been

a little bit of pushback on that and i'm. glad to see it but it's only happening after almost a year of this year but at the end of the day it's not what the people want it's what they are told and when george and i know the american experience the best mean you have these. governors that are essentially functioning as dictators i mean an executive order can can't doesn't necessarily make it constitutional and this is something that's being challenge go ahead george. exactly and what we normally think of in the practice of democracies is negative ration elected representatives the blade and pall mall but instead what we have in the united states or the united kingdom is the big government big that which from one day to the leg becomes more and the police. or with some brutality and protests are and 7 the gloves on and with the goal posts of constantly being moved. exactly and that's

what we've been talking about the strong i think well what is the science there is extensive a disagreement about coded as the weather really. hot the air is there's a group of coronaviruses of the been around forever that the debate about them often about whether the mafia use or i'm one of the scientists say that camp would meet with going like that people are suffering from all kinds of. psychological problems something to be increasing that also is fine but with people it by and by means the scientists who support their view not the sciences who are presenting a very different view about the enable the coercion to take place and was going to be budgeted in the mainstream media for. all of the social media which was supposed to provide little girl as it were for a vehicle was in the name of you know what i was the reigning ideology well it's in

preparing interesting gentlemen i hope you'll join me here on cross not exactly one year from now and we'll find out if what we've been talking about was a bad year or just the beginning of a trend that none of it have any control over here i want to thank my guests in london upset in budapest one big our viewers for watching us here are d c an experiment remember. all right. mary with a different bed barely got another researcher is. there a barrel. or is weapon of mass communication is spreading in developing areas n.f.l. endings that way to marinate the dangers of the gender of m.t.v.'s the fitters and

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question of the american dream but the bigger question of who the dream is for. the headlines are all to international as intensive care units in california filled up during the pandemic. to set up makeshift wards outside tells us just how bad the situation has become. we're stuck now we were running low on oxygen on supplies see how the patients in overflow overflow overflow areas. in the meantime in russia people aged 60 plus thought receiving the. health ministry said it was safe to do so. also being rolled out across europe people though still very much divided only issue. and i think we did not have enough feedback on this vaccine and.