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a low in welcome across stopper all things are considered on peter lawwell it will be very difficult to forget the year it is about it and indeed during 2020 change was the norm and normality elusive many have reflected on what has been lost maybe the focus should be on what may never return. to discuss this and more i'm joined by my guest dr cummings and implement he is the energy and founder of 21st century wire and in song share we have john law and he has a university lecturer in history and political philosophy originally crossed. in effect

that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it ok let's go to john 1st you know people will obviously think of 2020 as the year of kofi. but i tend to think of it already in a lot of the end of the year is the year of overreach in the end of the of the social contract am i wrong about that no i think that's exactly right in in the various knock downs that have afflicted the whole world and which that's not forget were inspired by communist china because the 1st lockdown was obviously in rouhani it sells all sorts of basic rights have been. some really abrogates and including by government decree in other words not by. a duly voted nor in the respective national register does this was the case in france for example where they originally locked down in march was not validated by the parliament until 5 days after it ended in divorce so all these rights the freedom of association 7

believe the freedom of religion the freedom of movement and. informally the freedom of expression. the 1st 3 were abolished formally the others the other the freedom expression informally all these vanished by government decree in spite of decades literally 5060 years of discourse about human rights the universal declaration of human rights of 948 the urban convention of 1950 and so on and when you talk about the social contract therefore peter you've put your finger only on the key point because i've always been a skeptic of human rights because i see that they are politically abused and i believe that liberty and the law is guaranteed by the state and if the state one day decides not to guarantee it or respect it then it's a political battle and not a judicial. one well we've seen the truth of that but we have also unfortunately

seen the horrible totalitarian pretensions of governments very often acting as we know from. his great resets in collaboration with big business and whole of this of course in a context and i come back to the thing i started with in the context of a jew political shift or rather return unfortunately. the trump parenthesis is about to close. a geopolitical return to wards the condominium between the united states the military power of the united states and the economic power of china which trump as i say interrupted briefly for 4 years but that parenthesis is unfortunately now closing so the outlook i think is extremely gloomy you know patrick maybe the only one i find quite calling is it you know and we want all of us know a bit of history here and you know that i mean this one hundreds of years of

struggle to attain rights that so many people take for granted and then they're just voided and there's hardly a peep it's extraordinary to me it's czech it's so and there are so many hundreds of millions of people around the world fighting desperately for the rights that so many in the west took for granted and will it will and left them fully beating only and there's not a whimper i mean i think this will be something historians will have to look at go ahead. sure if i follow it back it to the september 11th as a kind of a watershed event that that said certain things into motion these sort of trends which you just described i'm now looking back at that 20 years later as a dry run through what we've just witnessed in the last 12 months or so and you know this is by orders of magnitude much more invasive in terms of loss of rights in terms of loss of liberty. suspension of parliamentary democracy. meeting in

assembling free assembly free speech freedom of worship all of these things have been kind of taken head on by the state and the level of invasiveness when you're talking about bio surveillance it's much deeper it's much more personal to the side as a psychological operation of convincing people to be afraid of other people. convincing people that they need to wear masks not to protect themselves but to protect others so you know i listen to the world health organization's final briefing of 2020 and it was very telling the comments that they made and the one of their leading medical directors dr ryan who's are going to was kept talking about behavioral psychology behavioral psychology we've made such great strides in behavioral psychology and of course in the u.k.

that's been that one of the cornerstones of their whole pandemic effort has been this use of applied behavioral psychology and so this is this is ruled by experts on the level of a tech knock recy that so many people warned about in the 20th century so many great writers and you know and this is the very thing that the united states constitution actually was designed to thwart was in and in that sense i would say for you know dollar trump has been a historic president maybe the most constitutional president even though himself doesn't probably understand all of the nuances of the constitution like a scholar would but he has deferred to the constitution rather than the will sone and rule by experts kind of way of governing the administration look at the experts and given as ok and they say they were all true merit i mean they're the most mediocre class of people you can imagine ok it's just that they look after their.

and no one else is here but you know john you're interacting with reflecting about went back as if it were being treated like guinea pigs here i mean this is going to get down to you i mean you know we're all in a pub last dog here you know you poke this way you poke that way and you get the response you want i mean it's such a. diminished way of looking at citizens' rights yeah i strongly agree with that and with what patrick just said about the role of behavioral psychology because although in my 1st remarks i mentioned you know formal freedoms like association and so on i think patrick is dead right to. to draw attention to this horrible corrosion of basic social interaction things which can't be formulated in charters of rights and can't be enforced by law you know the basic trust that holds society together and indeed that's now been blown apart by the covert scam where everyone is different of everyone else and people have become very aggressive towards each other if they're not wearing masks and things like that so that kind

of damage really is very difficult to repair and when you talk about getting pigs peter you know that again is dead right because what we see you know people who are like me are conservatives we've known about the the left in for example educational institutions universities and in the media and so on but what we've seen i think with cove it is the extent now the terrifying extent of that leftist to gemini because it's extended way beyond the universities and it goes of course barry much into the heart of political leadership politicians who typically went to those went to those universities which have been dominated by the left now for so long but it also and this i think is what the great reception. resetting of course this crazy idea from davos that the whole world needs to be restructured now what the great reset shows is the extent to which left is a. totally dominates the business elites the business elites the big for the big

corporations a lot of people talk about big pharma but we also know about how the gaffa you know google and you tube and so on have all have received and twitter have restricted free speech i mentioned the informal restrictions on free speech a moment ago and we see from from davos from the world business elites how their ideas are 100 percent leftist you know for good or evil me if you're a leftist watching this you probably went find anything any problem with that but that they use him as an observer you have to you have to observe it and say and call it out what it is. says that the danger affecting the dangers affecting the of the world. populism and polarization he doesn't say that the danger affecting the world is islam is a more or terrorism or immigration and that's why i think you're right to talk about guinea pigs because i think these crazies have indeed seen the chance they

extend how quickly rights can be suspended or abolished and they want to go for it if they want to get things did they need the fascinating thing for me is that lack of self reflection or honesty is that all the things that they're proposing is for us it's not for them ok i think for me this has left this it gemini it was a fascinating about it is that if they never feel the heat negative consequences of their own ideology they're shielded from it all of the time ok you know the big scandal in the us where you have the governor at the french laundry apparently that's some really nice restaurant ok but that is that is a perfect example of that you know you must be hot down well i'm having brunch with my medical experts i think your art married you go ahead jump in patrick not god i'm going to pick up on what john said about the the laughter what you said about the great recession it's very true you know the great recession. it becomes

a lens and various factions and various institutions will project through that lens what they want to achieve in terms of their own political agenda and what we've seen is an opportunism by i would say the radical left i'm talking about communist intern the international communist and there's no longer a conspiracy if you look at how people try to seize on this pandemic in order to call for general strikes we saw. in the u.k. this is like bowles you know this is exactly their lame book so the workers parties are calling to shut down workers from going to work because it's not safe from cove it and so in this the government can guarantee 100 percent safety we everyone knew to do it down tools don't go to work general strike they've been dreaming of an opportunity to have that general strike for decades because it's not palatable nor practical and here comes this opportunity and that really said it sent out a really strong message to

a lot of people saying this is this is how ruthless this is kelly tickle faction can be and how dangerous it can be as well and how irrational because there it is the fallacy of the greater good at the end of the day this argument that we must do it for the greater good this collective argument is fallacious at its core because it undermines the very platforms that they themselves are using as a megaphone that the countries the economic stability that's allowed them built them up the world health organization the world economic forum for instance that billionaire funded that's kept that's capitalism that built up laughter as well back to john before we got to the great human this whole agenda that absolves you of any kind of personal responsibility someone else's responsibility responsible my thoughts and my havior this is this is the entire our entire civilization will experience inverted here or i want you to answer that question that we're going to go to a short. right after that short break we'll continue our discussion on our reflection

20 twentieth's stay with our. join me every thursday on the all excitement and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sport i'm sure. i'll see if. americans love. this was a fundamental part of how our political leadership and our country a large understood the bargain you get a hope and then you know rebel right as the things you don't revolt if you have

a stake in the system. be really interesting to dial it back and think about the longer deeper history housings men in the united states not just that question of the american dream but the bigger question of who the dream is and for . welcome back to crossfire where all things are considered peter lavelle to remind you we're expecting on the year that it's about to end. in germany go back to you i mean right before we went to the break we were talking about. did i deny people personal responsibility does this whole mantra of safety for of 1st i mean to my face value that's all nice and fine but that means i cannot

make any decisions about my own personal behavior and once you go there it's not much of a leap about what your thoughts should be go ahead john well listening to patrick just now and the best i was reminded of the quotation from good as doust which will go confuse is as the epigraph to the muster of marguerite's and when spouse that he's been dead guy says there are states just those that belong states that scooter shop i am the spirit that always wants evil but does good in other words there is a there are all dictatorships have been as it were for the good of their people and do you know here we are again as far as the issue of thought control and the influence of thinking goes again what this crisis has shown us many crises do of course eliminate things that were hidden otherwise. how crazy these people are who belong to be elites if you look at the material of the great results

which. aside a lot of attention but you know he's not is not a conspiracy because it's all out there in the public there's ups nothing secret about it but by drawing attention to it so what it has shown is that these elites believe it's course and call it it's them because the great recession is that it's a massive green so-called green. agenda in which people are supposed to you know obviously stop using hydrocarbons and so on but the other elements will hit and this is where it really is crazy although i think the climate stuff is crazy now where it really is crazies in the whole transhumanism because the world economic forum has been heavily into trance humanism by which i mean not just the implementer the implantation of prince the seeds of new legs or arms or hands of war but also according to them and this is where it really is crazy the implantation of microchips which they say will as it were replicate or perhaps even

influence people's emotions and thoughts i mean this really is great stuff yet it is being paid in serious need and it is as as patrick said it is billionaire and it there are people who believe in this nonsense and who are prepared to put money on the table to. finance it so you know it as i say it's lifted the veil on things which perhaps we otherwise would not have noticed and ultimately i suppose it's a symptom unfortunately of the fact that our societies have been put to sleep they have been you know reassured for too long now the state will take care of this the state will kick take care of that and hey guess what when the state decides not to do that anymore but to do something different we will disarm so we we need to rearm in order to prevent it from happening again and to stop it from happening and continuing now you know the pageant dignitas gets down to i mean something witnessed in the 21st century is the the the ideal of creating the new man and

we know how that ended ok we know how that ended and it's extraordinary they want another crack at it here and the way they're doing it and coming thought of following from what you have both sets of on this program which is that now we have this paradigm of crisis this 2 crisis and this is the legitimizing path the paradigm that they're using let me show you you know in the 1st. with cove it will date the gold coast is going to be forever moved out ok and everything else will be packed into it because safety is 1st ok and of course they determine what is safe though that can change from day to day from scientists design and on top of it all gentlemen they've compromised the whole idea of science i mean year ago we would meet you with people and they would be crazy talking about you know the legitimacy of science and that is well acting no and definitely the pseudo science is definitely in the ascendancy right now you the whole basis of the new

global pandemic narrative you know not to say there are not serious seasonal respiratory viruses in circulation every year i'll put that caviar end but the whole basis is based on what's really a dubious testing regime of p.c.r. testing completely understand or diced in terms of its cycle thresholds and things like this this is producing mountains of junk data which policy is being determined by and also the whole idea of the asymptomatic spreader that was never a scientific. idea that was never proven it was just something that was flowed floated out as a fear at the time early last spring and now number of peer reviewed studies have come back they're basically destroyed the the idea of the asymptomatic spread or so that really undermines lockdowns undermine social distancing in undermines masks

all of these mitigation policies all fall to the wayside if you're looking at the real science which is coming are a number what we've seen they haven't revised the policy so other words the ship leaves the leaves the port things to weather changes the ship continues to to go they don't change course and so this is typical of a tech knock recy this is typical of a scientific dictatorship there did they talk. about being led by the science but in fact they're not being led by the science and i'm going to say this is very very similar to another computer modeled driven pseudo science and this is a controversial thing to say but computer models got us into this pandemic mass and climate computer models have done the same thing in terms of formulating climate change policy the computer models predictive models are not scientific they cannot be replicated they're programmed assumptions are put and so now we're the technocrats are really hanging all of these policies onto computers onto

a i on to the you know blinding you with science as thomas dolby said so famously in the 1980 s. so prophetically that's where we're at right now and you know there is there needs to be a pushback against this because as you can see this science can be wrong the technocrats can be very wrong history is replete with examples of this we now have the biggest example of all time right now of how badly they could get it wrong and not change course and you know it's a kamikaze ride in terms of government policy right now they have trashed the or economies for what and so that and the great reset crowd the clash robs the world they're very happy with the progress of this so far there is perfect they've they've legitimize their thesis if you will that depend demick has exposed this great fault in our system we need a great reset to fix it so it's just a classic problem reaction solution but it's completely contrived you know

the you know and there's very little reflection media because the media is group mainly on board here i mean i think that as one of the really huge. you know rushing a hoax and i mean maybe as a media it has an erratic winds up in glory. to an unbelievable extent you know when. the other victims are are are working people and spam ones which of course are the lowest on the totem ball when it comes to these leads making decisions because you know the working people they're expendable when we've seen that ok i mean you know if you look at the the omnibus bill that was just passed by congress mean that there is plenty of money for i guess transgender studies and pakistan and there are 600 bucks for an american citizen ok there's plenty of money for their agenda all over the world and over $5000.50 page bill that i cannot

i shall a hard time believing anyone has read it is just going to be eating trough and they're just you know they're spanker bankrupting the country taking taxpayer money for their global agenda of this great recession. well i think that's where it gets really sinister because if you look for example at the salaries that are offered now in silicon valley a couple of years ago the average i think actually only one year ago the average salary offered in silicon valley so to go for working in san francisco was something like $130000.00 a year that was the average proposed salary for working in california and high tech the average proposed salary now is more like $70000.00 so we can already see that high tech is saying and it's not just high tech a saying if you don't need to live in san francisco anymore but you can do your work by sume from home in your apartment we're not going to pay you the rates that

you needed to leave in the big cities so hey presto you have a 50 percent pay cut and that's where by the way the whole transhumanism of the great reset is again very sinister because they imagine these crazy it's. that robots will become intelligent artificial intelligence and if and people ordinary people will eventually be replaced and they're relatively happy with that because obviously they think the robots are going to be cheaper so there is a very. bottom of that page. you know exactly. when notably companies you know that what patrick's. about the science is very very important because it reminds me of a line in the dusty eskies the devil's where he says that there is no greater. a curse that can afflict the world know that western famine western dictatorships and pseudo science than half science and dostoevsky made this point in the devils and

you know let's not forget you talked about dictatorships. just a minute ago peter and the desire to create a new man marxism was a science it was an economic science marx considered himself to be a scientist like darwin he did not regard himself as a policy maker he believed it it's covered laws of economics that would liberate man and so on racialism nazi racialism was a science people believed that you know by measuring elopes in the shapes of skulls and so on that they could purify the race and improve it and stuff so these were some then says and as patrick i'm very glad you made the link patrick between climate and covert fear because yes these things up based on fear and you mentioned $911.00 at the beginning of the program that too was the conjugation of fear crisis and of course then a state massive increase in state power in order to protect us all in the case of

911 it was the it was when the military state and of course the surveillance state really took off as edward snowden told us with the climate thing it's again fear of the climate which requires again as you said peter just now you know there are gigantic subsidies for all these windmills these windmills these you know the the so the electronic generating womens' wouldn't exist without the state subsidy and of course ditto now with covais which apart from destroying our liberties as we all know is based on absolutely stupid. endace amounts of money creation money creation which will inevitably reduce the purchasing power of guess who ordinary working families but guess what the footsie index is going to go above 10000 the wall street index all the rest that we run out of time fascinating discussion and i suppose it will be named this time next year discussing it whatever happened to

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