tv Cross Talk RT December 30, 2020 5:30pm-6:01pm EST
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hello again welcome across dr all things are considered i'm peter lawwell it will be very difficult to forget the year that is about it and indeed during 2020 change was the norm and normality elusive many have reflected on what has been lost maybe the focus should be on what may never return. to discuss this and more i am joined by my guests that are coming to implement he is the energy and founder of 21st century wire and. we have john laughlin he is a university lecturer in history and political philosophy cradling frost up close in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate it ok let's go to john 1st you know people will obviously think of 2020 is the year of coated. but i tend to think of it already in the light at the end of the year is
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the year of overreach in the end of the of the social contract am i wrong about that no i think that's exactly right in in the various knockdowns that have afflicted the whole world and which that's not forget were inspired by communist china because the 1st lockdown was obviously in ruin it sells all sorts of basic rights have been. summerlee abrogates and including by government decree in other words not. a julie voted law in the respective national register just this was the case in france for example where the original lockdown in march was not validated by the parliament until 5 days after it ended in divorce so all these rights freedom of association 7 believe that freedom all's religion the freedom of movement and. informally the. freedom of expression. the 1st 3
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were abolished formally the others in the other the freedom expression informally all these vanished by government decree in spite of decades literally 5060 years of discourse about human rights the universal declaration of human rights of 948 the irving convention of 1950 and so on and when you talk about the social contract therefore peter you've put your finger only on the key point because i've always been a skeptic of human rights because i see that they are politically abused and i believe that liberty and the law is guaranteed by the state and if the state one day decides not to guarantee it or respect it then it's a political battle and not a judicial one well we've seen the truth of that but we have also unfortunately seen the horrible totalitarian pretensions of our governments very often acting as we know from. his great reset in collaboration with big business
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and whole of this of course in a context and i come back to the thing i started with in the context of a jew political shift or rather return unfortunately. the trump parenthesis is about to close. a geopolitical return to wards the condominium between the united states the military power of the united states and the economic power of china which trump as i say interrupted briefly for 4 years but that parenthesis is unfortunately now closing so the outlook i think is extremely gloomy you know patrick maybe the only weapon i find quite calling is it in our book and we want all of us know a bit of history here and you know that i mean this one hundreds of years of struggle to attain rights that so many people take for granted and then they're just voided and there is hardly a peep it's extraordinary. narry to me it's check it's so and there are so many
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hundreds of millions of people around the world fighting desperately for the rights that so many in the west took for granted and left him beating only and there's not a whimper i mean i think this will be something historians will have to look at go ahead. sure if i look back at september 11th as a kind of a watershed event that that said certain things into motion these sort of trends which you just described i'm now looking back at that 20 years later as a dry run for what we've just witnessed in the last 12 months or so and you know this is by orders of magnitude much more invasive in terms of loss of rights in terms of loss of liberty suspension of parliamentary democracy. meeting in assembling free assembly free speech freedom of worship all of these things have been kind of taken head on by the state and the level of invasiveness when you're
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talking about bio surveillance it's much deeper it's much more personal the is a psychological operation of convincing people to be afraid of other people. convincing people that they need to wear masks not to protect themselves but to protect others so you know i listen to the world health organization's final briefing of 2020 and it was very telling the comments that they made and the one of their leading medical directors dr ryan who's are going to was kept talking about behavioral psychology behavioral psychology we've made such great strides in behavioral psychology and of course in the u.k. that's been that one of the cornerstones of their whole pandemic effort has been this use of applied behavioral psychology and so this is ruled by experts on
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a level a tech knock recy that so many people warned about in the 20th century so many great writers and you know and this is the very thing that the united states constitution actually was designed to thwart was in and in that sense i would say for you know a dollar. trump has been a historic president maybe the most constitutional president even though himself doesn't probably understand all the nuances of the constitution like a scholar would but he has deferred to the constitution rather than the will sone and rule by experts kind of way of governing the administration look at the experts and given as ok and they say they were all true merit i mean they're the most mediocre class of people you can imagine again it's just that they look after their interests and no one else is here but you know john did interacting with reflecting about went back as if it were being treated like any thinks here i mean this is what he gets down to i mean you know we're all in a pub last dog here you know you poke this way you poke that way and you get the
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response you want i mean it's such a. diminished way of looking at citizens rights yeah i strongly agree with that and with what patrick just said about the role of behavioral psychology because although in my 1st remarks i mentioned you know formal freedoms like association and so on i think patrick is dead right to. to draw attention to this horrible corrosion of basic social interaction things which can't be formulated in charters of rights and can't be enforced by law you know the basic trust that holds society together and indeed that's now been blown apart by the code scam where everyone is different of everyone else and people have become very aggressive towards each other if they're not wearing masks and things like that so that kind of damage really is very difficult to repair and when you talk about getting pigs at peta you know that again is dead right because what we see you know people who are like me are conservatives we've known about the the last in for example
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educational institutions universities in the media and so on but what we've seen i think with cove it is the extent now the terrifying extent of that leftists have. yemeni because it's extended way beyond the universities and it goes of course barry much into the heart of political leadership politicians who typically went to those went to those universities which have been dominated by the left now for so long but it also and this i think is what the great reception. resetting of course this crazy idea from davos that the whole world needs to be restructured now what the great reset shows is the extent to which leftism totally dominates the business elites the business elites the big for the big corporations a lot of people talk about big pharma but we also know about how the gaffa you know
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google and you tube and so on have all have received and twitter have restricted free speech i mentioned the informal restrictions on free speech a moment ago and we see from from davos from the world business elites how their ideas are 100 percent leftist you know for good or evil me if you're a leftist watching this you probably won't find anything any problem with that but that you simply as an observer you have to you have to observe it and say and call it out what it is. says that the danger affecting the dangers affecting the of the world. populism and polarization he doesn't say that the danger affecting the world is islam is a more or terrorism or immigration and that's why i think you're right to talk about guinea pigs because i think these crazies have indeed seen the chance they extreme how quickly rights can be suspended or abolished and they want to go for it if they want to if it did they need the the fascinating thing for me is that lack
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of self reflection or honesty is that all the things that they're proposing is for us it's not for them again i mean me this had left this examinee it was a fascinating about it is that if they never feel the negative consequence. this is of their own ideology there's shielded from it all of the time ok you know that big scandal in the u.s. what you have the governor at the french laundry apparently that some really nice restaurant ok but that is that is a perfect example that you know you must be hunted down well i'm having brunch with my medical experts i think there are now you go ahead jump in right now i'm going to pick up on what john said about the the laughter what you said about the great reset it's very true you know the great reset becomes a lens and various factions and various institutions will project through that lens what they want to achieve in terms of their own political agenda and what we've seen is an opportunism by i would say the radical left i'm talking about communist
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intern the international communist and there's no longer a conspiracy if you look at how people try to seize on this pandemic in order to call for general strikes we saw. in the u.k. this is like bowles you know this is exactly their lame book so the workers parties are calling to shut down workers from going to work because it's not safe from cove it and so in this the government can guarantee 100 percent safety we everyone knew to do it down tools don't go to work general strikes they've been dreaming of an opportunity to have that general strike for decades because it's not palatable nor practical and here comes this opportunity and that really said it sent out a really strong message to a lot of people saying this is this is how ruthless this is kelly tickle faction can be and how dangerous it can be as well and how irrational because there it is the fallacy of the greater good at the end of the day this argument that we must do
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it for the greater good this collective argument is fallacious at its core because it undermines the very platforms that they themselves are using as a megaphone that the countries the economic stability that's allowed them. built them up the world health organization did the world economic forum for instance that billionaire funded that's kept that's capitalism that built up laughter as well but to john before we got to the break here but it's this whole agenda that absolves you of any kind of personal responsibility someone else's responsibility for responsible my thoughts and my behavior this is this is the entire our entire civilization will experience inverted here or i want you to answer that question but we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on our reflection 20 twentieth's stay with r.t. .
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world is driven by shaped person. who dares thinks. we dare to ask. some people would associate optimism with risky behavior because they don't want to and like the trolls they don't want to incite the state they don't want to invite to see a mob they don't want to live by all kinds of trouble that comes with optimistic
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saying throughout history optimists have been punished 6 could be galileo it could be copernicus 6 could be einstein it could be called sorts of the steve jobs and they were punished for their optimism but now there is no punishment for relentless optimism. it is a dead there it is good. there mr straight as. bad . as weapon of mass communication is spirit. that made it. again and of entities continues and maybe all devices. to me i'm going to have an agent come to interviews on you tube effect to your mind . alternative vision. if you start to question. your way to.
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isolate it to examine it to. area it appear to be our area today undercover and i'm going to say about a site where you will get exposed to archaeopteryx waves decontaminate your library will sell to your audience for years and break everything to. track down. where narrow you can defend yourself and your reference from the weapons of mass communication. thanks for the r.t. earliest of the enemy all things are viewing area.
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it's. going. welcome back to crossfire where all things are considered peter lavelle to remind you we're expecting on the year that it's about to end. in germany go back to you i mean right before we went to the break we were talking about. a different i denying people personal responsibility does this whole mantra of safety for of 1st i mean to my face value that's all nice and fine but that means i cannot make any decisions about my own personal behavior and once you go there it's not much of a leap about what your thoughts should be go ahead john well listening to patrick just now and the best i was reminded of the quotation from good as doust which will
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go confuse is as the epigraph to the muster of marguerite's or when spouse that he's been dead guy says there are states just those that belong states that scooter shop i am the spirit that always wants evil but does good in other words there is a there are all dictatorships have been as it were for the good of their people and do you know here we are again as far as the issue of thought control and the influence of thinking again what this crisis has shown us many crises do of course illuminates things that were hidden otherwise. how crazy these people are who belong to be elites if you look at the material of the great reason . which. aside a lot of attention but you know he's not is not a conspiracy because it's all out there in the public there's ups nothing secret
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about it but by drawing attention to it so what it has shown is that these elites believe it's course and call it it's them because the great recession is that it's a massive green so-called green. agenda in which people are supposed to you know obviously stop using hydrocarbons and so on but the other elements will hit and this is where it really is crazy although i think the climate stuff is crazy enough where it really is crazy isn't the whole transhumanism because the world economic forum has been heavily into trance humanism by which i mean not just the implementer the implantation of prince the seeds of new legs on the arms or hands of water but also according to them and this is where it really is crazy the implantation of microchips which they say will as it were replicate or perhaps even influence people's emotions and thoughts i mean this really is great stuff yet it is being paid in serious need and it is as as patrick said it is billionaire and it
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there are people who believe in this nonsense and who are prepared to put money on the table to. finance it so you know it as i say it's lifted the veil on things which perhaps we otherwise would not have noticed and ultimately i suppose it's a symptom unfortunately of the fact that our societies have been put to sleep they have been you know reassured for too long now the state will take care of this the state will kick take care of that and hey guess what when the state decides not to do that anymore but to do something different we will disarm so we we need to rearm in order to prevent it from happening again and to stop it from happening and continuing now you know the pageant with this gets down to i mean something witnessed in the 21st century is the the the ideal of creating the new man and we know how that ended ok we know how that ended and it's extraordinary they want another crack at it here and the way they're doing it and coming thought of following from what you have both sets of on this program which is that now we have
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this paradigm of crisis this 2 crisis and this is the legitimizing patent the paradigm that they're using let me show you you know in the 1st. with cove it will date the gold coast is going to be forever moved out ok and everything else will be packed into it because safety is 1st ok and of course they determine what is safe though that can change from day to day from scientists to scientists and on top of it all gentlemen they've compromised the whole idea of science i mean year ago we would need you with people and they would be crazy talking about you know the legitimacy of science and that is well. known definitely the pseudosciences is definitely in the ascendancy right now you the whole basis of the new global pandemic narrative you know not to say there are not serious seasonal respiratory viruses in circulation every year i'll put that caviar end but the
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whole basis is based on what's really a dubious testing regime of p.c.r. testing completely understand or diced in terms of its cycle thresholds and things like this this is producing mountains of junk data which policy is being determined by and also the whole idea of the asymptomatic spreader that was never a scientific. idea that was never proven it was just something that was flowed floated out as a fear at the time early last spring and now number of peer reviewed studies have come back they're basically destroyed the the idea of the asymptomatic spread or so that really undermines lockdowns undermine social distancing and undermines masks all of these mitigation policies all fall to the wayside if you're looking at the real science which is coming are a number of what we've seen they haven't revised the policy so other words the ship leaves the leaves the port things to weather changes the ship continues to to go
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they don't change course and so this is typical of a tech knock recy this is typical of a scientific dictatorship they did they taught. about being led by the science but in fact they're not being led by the science and i'm going to say this is very very similar to another computer modeled driven pseudo science and this is a controversial thing to say but computer models got us into this pandemic mass and climate computer models have done the same thing in terms of formulating climate change policy the computer models predictive models are not scientific they cannot be replicated they're programmed assumptions are put in so now we're the technocrats are really hanging all of these policies on to computers onto a i on to the you know blinding you with science as thomas dolby said so famously in the 1980 s. so prophetically that's where we're at right now and you know there is there needs
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to be a pushback against this because as you can see this science can be wrong the technocrats can be very wrong history is replete with examples of this we now have the biggest example of all time right now of how badly they could get it wrong and not change course and you know it's a kamikaze ride in terms of government policy right now they have trashed the or economies for what and so that and the great reset crowd the clash robs the world they're very happy with the progress of this so far there is perfect they've they've legitimize their thesis if you will that depend demick has exposed this great fault in our system we need a great reset to fix it so it's just a classic problem reaction solution but it's completely contrived you know the you know and there's very little reflection media because the media is group mainly on board i mean that as one of the really huge. you know in russia gate
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hoax and i mean maybe as a media it has in iraq and in glory. to an unbelievable extent you know when. the other victims are are are working people and spam ones which of course are the lowest on the totem ball well when it comes to these leads making decisions because you know the working people they're expendable when we have seen that ok i mean you know if you look at the the omnibus bill that was just passed by congress mean that there is plenty of money for i guess transgender studies and pakistan and there are 6 $100.00 for an american citizen ok there's plenty of money for their agenda all over the world and over $5000.50 page bill that i cannot i shall a hard time believing anyone has read it is just going to be eating trough and they're just they're spanker bankrupting the country taking taxpayer money for their global agenda of this great recession. well i think that's where it gets
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really sinister because if you look for example at the salaries that are offered now in silicon valley a couple of years ago the average i think actually only one year ago the average salary offered in silicon valley for working in san francisco was something like $130000.00 a year that was the average proposed salary for working in california and high tech the average proposed salary now is more like $70000.00 so we can already see that high tech is saying and it's not just high tech a saying if you don't need to live in san francisco anymore but you can do your work by sume from home in your apartment we're not going to pay you the rates that you needed to leave in the big cities so hey presto you have a 50 percent pay cut and that's where by the way the whole transhumanism of the great reset is again very sinister because they imagine these crazies that
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robots will become intelligent artificial intelligence and if and people ordinary people will eventually be replaced and they're relatively happy with that because obviously they think the robots are going to be cheaper so there is a very. bottom of that page. you know exactly. what notably companies you know that what patrick's. about the sciences is very very important because it reminds me of a line in the dusty eskies the devil's where he says that there is no greater. a curse that can afflict the world know that western famine western dictatorships than pseudo science than half science and just ask you made this point in the devils and you know let's not forget you talked about dictatorships. just a minute ago peter and the desire to create a new man marxism was a science it was an economic science marx considered himself to be
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a scientist like darwin he did not regard himself as a policy maker he believed it it's covered laws of economics that would liberate man and so on racialism nazi racialism was a science people believed that you know by measuring elopes in the shapes of skulls and so on that they could purify the race and improve it and so on so these were some then says and as patrick i'm very glad you made the link patrick between climate and covert fear because yes these things up based on fear and you mentioned $911.00 at the beginning of the program that too was the conjugation of fear crisis and of course then state massive increase in state power in order to protect us all in the case of 911 it was the it was when the military state and of course the surveillance state really took off as edward snowden told us with the climate thing it's again fear of the climate which requires again as you said peter just now you
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know there are gigantic subsidies for all these windmills these windmills these you know the the so the electronic generating womens' wouldn't exist without the state subsidy and of course ditto now with covais which apart from destroying our liberties as we all know is based on absolutely stupid. indus amounts of money creation money creation which will inevitably reduce the purchasing power guess who ordinary working families but guess what the footsie index is going to go above 10000 the wall street index already let me run out of time fascinating discussion and i suppose. this time next year discussing it whatever happened to democracy it just left us ok i want to thank my guests in the u.k. and in france and i want to thank our viewers for watching as you see an x. time and remember rostock rules and happy new year.
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was. going to be interviewed. for. the strikes a milestone deal with china removing barriers into investment that comes after years of talks and in spite of resistance from washington. the british government puts most of england under the current level of code restrictions as case numbers spiraled following the discovery of a highly contagious new strain. that new variant of code has now been detected in the u.s. we chronicle a challenging year for the country worst hit by the pandemic. our broadcasting live direct from our studios in moscow this is our international i'm sean thomas certainly glad to have you with us.
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