and everyone can find. out what i will look at the pace of julian no sorry i've got a month concrete. with. cruelty to put such cruelty of course but can treat him with such cruelty. is quite capable of a form of cruelty you know probably the most important information that we truly in the sand fellow citizens of the globe need is information about the secret malfeasance and wrongdoing of our governments which are legit. and julian the sarge along with chelsea manning and edward snowden and the other whistle throws down the years of the heroes who helped us to gain some of the knowledge that the powers that be would keep secret if they could support

whistleblowers us part truth tellers to have a government after all it's it's extraordinary to be up against that kind of hour even boris johnson must be the most of his life the journalist should understand if you will agree to what do you consider us to do i mean tradition craig's security mr andrews exposed wall cripes to margaret couldn't face. those things which you know students didn't. already. more students said did any foreign leaders. of the us constitution doesn't apply to them so they didn't think anyone out. there. to washington to be tried since most governments do the bidding and eat when people don't go out. and so all and so on surely are strong major and make many. day better to day in march

when the contribution used to make us aware of the extent to which we are told that many people a did enjoy it so well for me the best place surely in the shallows google is just if i got out 1st and next day i soon as i started to hear about truth were happily forward that it would end this way. the idea of somebody who says there's all this stuff that's hidden from you and i'm going to show you i'm going to give it to you left right and center. is the kind of person i've always wanted to see you know what i've always i've always felt that was so much that we just don't know about and here's somebody who's kind of put me in the public domain one thing that really upsets me is that. we don't hear about all of the stuff that they're putting out i saw

a film of american soldiers shooting innocent people in the street this is big news these are the kinds of things that the people of my country the people who work should know about these are the kind of things that these people get up to some of the supporting julian assange jersey faces extradition to the united states there as to the hearing itself he has finally had with those arguably on the front line of the battle for british and global press freedom i'm going underground social media producer part of it and today we're outside the old bailey in london by julian assange is the wiki leaks founder is arguably in the pipe or is the life why he faces the 1st day of his u.s. electrician hearing trial if he is actually right if the united states he faces a 175 years in a supermax prison behind me are many of his supporters and there are some big names out here today who are backing the wiki leaks founder i'm going to be looking to talk to some of them 1st they are themselves actually trial waters german soldiers condition he's been tortured according to the u.n. of course he's been tortured and he was not in a good. that's all i can say we heard in the last minute bit of airing that his

condition has deteriorated and i can. cross there's a faster trial what are your expectations and then allegations of bias from the court judges from right there any hope in others company or mailing we have to cling to the hope that my expectations are low but i demand justice and wish you told him and to justice in this case the abuse of process the been seen in this case up till now it is absolutely horrific it's been piling up in the years and the months leading up to this day there's been spying on legally privileged communication there's been stealing of material and 2 weeks ago the americans just threw into this court a totally new document an indictment that totally changes the narrative and julian is supposed to have 3 weeks to prepare for that and his lawyers will the americans

have been cooking this up in a 10 year process this is absurd it should be thrown out and if it's not thrown out today it will be an abuse of process and an abuse against the rights of julian assange say the stars course where you don't want to go where german sanchez i should i said where i would put the fight go from the potentially this is only one battle in the war here in this court there will be appeals if he loses here we'll take it up to the supreme court we will do everything in our power to stop this extradition because there's so much at stake not just the life of julian assange but the future of journalism as i've been covering the german thought process of the last year talking to every court about i've seen the process stronger having seen the same thing around the world of support growing for german songs and you can the momentum is growing in his favor i think the momentum is is really coming to his favor and we're seeing that in the next you have journalists that are starting to wake up to what is at stake because it's their future their job security. their right to report on national security issues when it pertains united

states the president of this case is starting to sink in and we should all be of afraid all journalists should be afraid of what's happening here so much of the day and just finally some outlets are doubling down on all of that says again surveillance on for example washington post in a recent article so called wiki leaks a russian decimation outlook what do you say to all of that all the other guys the germans under the russian agent it's an absurd and it's a reflection of the new cold war that we are seeing being blown up in the i mean. the please is also cold an anti secrecy organization what is that it's the play of word doing a cold transparency international anti-secrecy organization we're fighting for trust total transparency just like every journalist should do in this world dossier of journalists on has actually been trialled has been on the show saying that there

is been a lot of bias against response from judge for right so any hope now for more impartiality now that might call for the old bailey well as christine just said we can't depend on hope but. there is enormous pressure for justice and look at the people around here he told trying to really and is now at the center of an international struggle for justice so i do think that if this court. allows the extradition of carolyn. it will go to appeal and i'm reasonably hope told that it's has appeal but that. used to be called british justice my profile i think most people are now intensely angry that this huge miscarriage of justice. has now found this way to the old bailey to the central criminal court. to be. presided over by

a system that israel people. are not giving through. i mean just so the last one that i spoke to you you were inside a body cage of a canary for joining us on what the football symbolizes must be a song about that we had to call it post on days the power supply that the cold but pain you know i've been playing football with these pay trond every time they tried to trap the scores of goals and no case whatsoever to get them to keep changing the mill incensing the rules moving the goalposts and they haven't gone to get the ball they will never admit that because it's so cobol if that means i will find him to take the step back this is what we say what do you think the consequences will be if you're in a bunch is extradited to the united states he will forever be a shining light he's

a hero he's an icon he eats on the my film corruption and people if they're still alive because we say mass extinction will recognize him on the shining truth you have any hope for the british justice system will prevent journalists are being extradited valorise to snow listen to public opinion public opinion use changing in favor of studios it sounds that before like it's called thank you oh give us about that asshole they do want they want this is the problem of course he would be free because he has to he has no good no case against it it's all incentive and yeah and they had a ball even with that said case they will find him guilty because they because it completely a company to corral and that's what. because that's what happened to.

those are some of the biggest names down here in support of gitmo sergeant for more coverage of general thought is actually make sure to say if you're going on the ground back to you after social media producer fine ahmed there well we've invited the u.k. government to appear on the program or provide us with a statement they haven't got back to us yet but they've said in the past that they disagree with a number of the observations by the un ruppert there on torture who detailed what he saw as torture of julian assange belmarsh prison the government also said judges are impartial and independent from government with any judgement based solely on the facts of the case and the a political lord of course u.k. prime minister boris johnson has previously said it's only right that julian assange finally faces justice joins us after the break as we speak to a man who knows all about wrongful detention talk to use of one of the exonerated central park 5 you spent almost 7 years in juvenile detention for

a crime he didn't commit and whose story is dramatized in netflix's award winning show when they see us. the way of life reindeer herders leading a traditionally nomadic lifestyle the tundra is similar to a parallel reality. drive that women carry the weight of the old look on their shoulders. however in the vast expanse of russia there were housewives could secure regular employment status it's in the final.

an entire village in alaska has had to if another country trying to wipe out an american town. we do everything in our power to protect the. wanted data skipping climate change poses the same threat right now alaska seems some of the fastest coastal erosion in the world we lost about 35 feet. 35 feet of ground in just about 3 months while we were measuring. he is fast and that means the river is 35 closer than how it was 4 i don't think we're part of earth for.

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welcome back while julian assange fights for his life in london over the next 4 weeks whether any lessons to be learned from the wrongful conviction of the 1990 central park 5 they won the largest of a payout in new york state history 41000000 dollars and the story's been dramatized in netflix's award winning show when they see us one of the 5 doctor use of salaam joins me now from atlanta georgia his new young adult novel punching the air coauthored by ab's a boy tells the story through verse of one boy's struggle against the u.s.

justice system it's out now you said thanks so much for joining us on ongoing underground they said in part one we heard about the julian a songe case a lot of people think he's innocent and we see the national all these different n.g.o.s fighting for him i know you've been asked the question before but how does anyone cope with being in a maximum security prison knowing they're innocent. you know the biggest challenge just to try to figure out how to keep your mind free even though your body's in bondage as we know where your head goes your body follows and so as we begin to look at you know the opportunities even through now like we've been experiencing cope in 1900 world and some people have been going out of their mind it's because of this and the greatest thing that we can do is try to channel our inner g. meditate as deep in as far as we can and channel our energy to keep our minds as free as possible because wherever our minds go our bodies follow but of course in this book there are so many different facets that you examine i mean there's

a line here bail money let me know the people believed in me. something actually bijectively peculiarly apt for julian assange how how did bail money mean so much to you when you were incarcerated you know because the community responds and the community responds in such a powerful way by putting their dollars against the system the whole system is coming against you and a great thing about it is that in black and brown communities in those most marginalized communities in america a lot of folks get it because they've also been moaning about a spike rules of justice and those indelible scars that they continue to experience allow them to take their hard earned money whether it be a $1.50 cent whatever it is all of their stuff adds up and when you need to get someone out of prison because they're going through this tremendous time their families are not also going through it's not just that individual the family is going through the awful a loss of not having them there with them the community is going through an awful time as well and so it's it's a really powerful. expression of hope of resilience of truth that

someone would use their money to help to get someone out because people will know if they've seen the documentary central park 5 or the netflix t.v. show the appalling way the media can behave out as one cope when the journalists are just acting as that of refers for power. you know that's the biggest challenge i think when i look at what happened in our case 2 weeks after we were accused the now president donald trump who was a real estate mogul back then took out a full page ad calling for our deaths it was essentially telling the rest of america that it was ok that open season for black people were ok and especially for the central park 5 warrants gnome. they made a sly. part

of the way they have to do with us. they hope that someone from those most sinister sides of society would do to us what they had done to emmett till as a matter of fact another our media personality pat buchanan wrote in the papers that we should take the eldest one corey wise and hang him from a tree in central park and that we should do this by june 1st and so we were we were up against tremendous odds the gravitational pull of the negativity that we were in is something that we are experiencing now because we have social media everybody has a front row seat to all pression especially oppression in america and you know white supremacy white male dominance is something that we are all experiencing the evil of around the globe and as we try to move out of that gravitational pull

fighting against spiritual wickedness in high and low places we have a tremendous opportunity because the best thing about being born in the struggle is that you're automatically born on the side of right you're automatically born fighting for true freedom justice and equality not the imagined system that doesn't include all of us were talking about the inclusion of the kaleidoscope of the human family in the same way that dr king had a dream. and in this book malcolm x. as mentioned quite early on in punching the air i should say julian assad's talk about black eyes matter back then but of course he was exposing entering clinton you. obviously have feelings about donald trump taking out those advertisement calling for your deaths but of course it was biden who is responsible for mass incarceration policy harris the vice presidential nominee was. there's

a case daniel lawson an innocent man she wanted to jail for the 3 strikes law what can americans do now to prevent future central. well you know what i look at i look at the fact that we have the opportunity now that we understand that it's not about just so to speak having a plan for the weekend we can't even just have a 5 year plan we need to have generational plans and as we play on this game of chess the idea in the understanding is that we're making incremental successes in games and so yes right now we where we're looking at the current election and the possibilities of what ought to calm but i think that did mindset of you of of the heartbeat of america is different the mindset of our ancestors wildest dreams has been crying out and we've been talking about yesterday we were talking about reform and now today we're talking about abolition we're talking about tearing the whole

system down a system that was imagined not to include us we were always seen as 3 fifths of a human being. you got idea. that you're here on our own we had to have this because let's see we were relegated to the new cotton fields of the of america through the criminal justice system a system that i call the criminal system of injustice it's a description. of the use of salon 1611 great. here. i'm actually 50 graduate high school next year you tell me 15 each each give some grace. and i change the bird they don't. have a. stronger person or else i'm going to 60. but now we have this opportunity to imagine what their great future would be like not necessarily for us

but for our children's children's children and so in that incremental gain we have to make sure that the 46 president is much better than the 45th president. and because we are the people and we are the ones who will agitate we are the ones who will hold people to their promises we are moving in the political space in a way that we have never moved before we have our eyes wide open and that's one of the things that 2020 has given us is given us the awesome opportunity to have 2020 vision we see things perfectly now and as we move into 2021 and beyond we move with the knowledge and the truth of what we need to be about and we are going to be about that very thing in a very very powerful way that adds life to us in that as life to the rest of the world yeah but if you are right now in prison maybe watching this program what hope can you have from joe biden that alone donald trump well i tell you what if we look

at a person's past 4 point past performance we can predict what they will do in the future now you're looking at both candidates and we already know that donald trump is running as the law and order president donald trump is saying that he wants to make a good america great again on the echoes that we're hearing in the background of states' rights and we know that states' rights means especially in the south the mean states' rights to own slaves you know of course the driver deny that and when you talk about the bus you know that joe biden gave an impassioned speech for mass incarceration joe biden was opposed to the segregated schools well the. well listen i mean if you look at it all we're talking about certain ology at its highest form and even though someone will deny this or someone has done this in the past what i would always say is we we like i have a different sort of speak connection to dollar chunk of course and as we look at

america right now what do we see we see that person at the top of the country saying that he is trying to unite us but then telling the give municipalities to get control over their cities in their states and what are those municipalities doing there being us in the in the face is almost like malcolm x. what he said he said the bus you in the mouth and then they'll charge you for being the accuser or the abuser it's like victim blaming we we've had enough of that and even if a new president is called into office the greatest thing that happens is that we the people have a new mind and we have a new opportunity because we're not looking at things like ok we'll just put that person in office and then we'll turn a blind eye and go back to do what we're doing when we see what's going on in the streets and enough is enough it's about abolition now not about making

a band-aid over the cut well we saw the defunding the police campaign we saw a brief flicker of statues coming down of racists it even happened over here after the george floyd killing your book weaves in and out of imperialism colonial legacy is in africa what about the fight back to all trump said just in the past few days no set is a coming down on his watch well see that's the thing we're still talking about trick knology right the people are speaking. this is the united states the imagery that we see in the word united states is us meaning us but we've known that the imagined vision of the founding fathers did not include us as a matter of fact on the heels of the massive patient proclamation the 13th amendment was included in the founding documents of this country which allowed slavery to continue by another name as we look at the criminal justice system we i

call it in many of many of my constituents call it the criminal system of injustice because for us it has been just that we can clearly see that you can have a person shoot up a church and be captured alive and you can have a person sitting in their car reading a book and be murdered you have so many examples of the duality of american the the american criminal justice system that is criminal to see what's going on and is trick knology to tell us that we are getting better when we look like we're getting worse when we're experiencing more worse and more treachery more pression we want the american dream we collectively have the foot of america or the needs of america on our next. that's ever one of your favorite shows of the last season we will be back with a brand new season of going on the ground on january the 13th until then subscribe to the john one you tube to catch all the other interviews from this season for

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