in a day or sinks. we dare to ask. you to master it as you welcome to going underground the team and i will be back with a brand new season starting on january the 13th but today we're rebroadcasting our coverage of julian assange just extradition trial as today marks the sched jewel ruling in london that may decide the future of all global free speech black lives

matter. movement has come up. yes by hard work practice but the. core of what is driving it is footage that is undeniable that everyone is not a matter of the you know do you believe the police do you believe friends of a person who were shot witnesses because i'm deniable of exactly what has occurred and i is not only stimulating parts of the black community i think the black community is on this understood this all too long. but it's stimulating enormous acceptance and sympathy outside of our community. because their argument is proven assan speaking to us in 2016 after being granted asylum in the ecuadorian embassy in london the un special rapporteur on torture claims the founder of wiki leaks has been tortured by u.k. authorities since his capture by scotland yard and this week the trumpet ministration seeks to extradite a songe an act that could see him die in

a us prison his supporters include amnesty international reporters without borders as well as even mainstream news outlets cognizant that the court of controversial english judge vanessa borate could lead to the nail in the coffin of free speech in britain as sanchez millions of supporters around the world here are a few who have spoken to us here and going on the ground it would be a cruel on the part of the british. to exceed 'd to the u.s. to their tradition. it would be between they've already committed many crimes. of sergers of sense is not real and if he's extra good it comes up for trial and the u.s. is spinoza's laws which even carry a potential death. trial is being. committed the crime of littering the general population know things that they have

a right to know that powerful states don't want the know anyone who calls of misconduct is not a terrorist i mean do the searches never threatened anyone he has never committed you know. in these latest threatens to commit one. and those of often are and so i think we should be grateful that we know these things and states should be grateful that it's a little hole and those people to becomes a real good war when he leaks. has done an incredible job and hopefully no single be sold but it's not same situation he has committed no crime and we're here all political and i wouldn't support him. i thank you for an incredible story or important we have to support him in every way we can. and let people know.

what i know look at the case of julian no sorry i've got a month to concrete. with. cruelty pushups cruelty a court can treat him with cruelty. is quite capable of a form of cruelty you know probably the most important information that we truly in the sciences fellow citizens of the globe need is information about the secret malfeasance and wrongs of all governments which legend. and julian the song which along with chelsea manning and edward snowden and the other whistleblower stone the. heroes who helped us to gain some of the knowledge that the powers that be would keep secret if they could support

whistleblowers as part truth tellers to have a government after you know it's it's extraordinary to be up against that kind of power even boris johnson must be the most ruthless lives the journalist should understand if you will agree to what do you consider us to do i mean tradition craig's security mr andrews exposed christ to margaret couldn't face the music 1st of those things which the united states didn't mean to speak in the american and british. student is said did any foreign journalists. us constitution doesn't apply to them so they don't think anyone. here. to washington to pre-crisis most governments do the bidding and eat when people don't go out. and it's all in. major and make many mistakes

but it's day in march when the contribution is to make us aware of the extent to which we are told that many people a did enjoy it so well for me the best place surely in the shallows google is just a pride i got out of n.s.a. i soon as i started to hear about it were happily forward that it would end this way. the idea of somebody who. does all this stuff that's hidden from me and i'm going to show you i'm going to give it to you left right and center. is the kind of person i've always wanted to see you know. i've always felt that there's so much that we just don't know about and here's somebody to kind of put me in the public domain one finger really upsets me is that. we don't hear about all of the stuff that they're putting out i saw a film of american soldiers shooting innocent people in the street this is big news

these are the kinds of things that the people of my country the people who work should know about these are the kind of thing that these people get up to some of the supporting julian assange has he faces extradition to the united states there as for the hearing itself he has finally had with those arguably on the front line of the battle for british and global press freedom i'm going underground social media producer part of it and today we're outside the old bailey in london by julian assange is the wiki leaks founder is arguably in the pipe or is the life why he faces the 1st day of his u.s. electrician hearing trial if he is actually right to deny that. say he faces a 175 years in a supermax prison behind me are many of his supporters and there are some big names out here today who are backing the wiki leaks founder i'm going to be looking to talk to some of the past the injured on the son's actions in trial what is your sense on his condition he's been tortured according to the u.n. of course he's been tortured and he is not in a good place that's all i can say we heard in the last minutes bit of

a hearing that his condition has deteriorated and i can. cross so there's a process a trial what are your expectations and then allegations of bias from the court judges from parades is there any hope another's company or mailing we have to bring to the hope that my expectations are low but i demanded justice and which you told him and to justice in this case the abuse of process that been seen in this case up till now it is absolutely horrific it's been piling up in the years and the months leading up to this day there's been spying on legally privileged communication there's been stealing of material and 2 weeks ago the americans just threw into this court a totally new document an indictment that totally changes the narrative and julian is supposed to have 3 weeks to prepare for that and his lawyers with the americans

have been cooking these up in a 10 year process this is absurd it should be thrown out and if it's not thrown out today it will be an abuse of process and an abuse against the rights of julian assange say this task of the where you don't want to go where german stands as i should i said where i would put the fight from the potentially this is only one battle in the war here in this court there will be appeals if he loses here we'll take it up to the supreme court we will do everything in our power to stop this extradition because there's so much at stake not just the life of julian assange but the future of journalism as i've been covering the german fans. process of the last year calling to every call about i've seen the process grow and grow having seen the same thing around the world as support growing vigilance on john the thing the momentum is going to say but i think the momentum is really coming his favor and we're seeing that in the next you have journalists that are starting to wake up to what is at stake because it's their future their job security their right to

report on national security issues when it pertains united states the president of this case is starting to sink in and we should all be of afraid all journalists should be afraid of what's happening here so much of the day and just finally some outlets are doubling down on all of the fans against him and so on for example washington post in a recent article of so-called wiki leaks a russian descent formation outlook what do you say to all of that all the other guys the germans under the russian agent it's an absurd and it's a reflection of the new cold war that we are seeing being blown out of the i mean. the fleet is also cold and unties secrecy organization what is that it's the play of we're doing a cold transparency international and dies secrecy organization we're fighting for trust total transparency just like every journalist should do in this world last day of journalists on the exhibition trial has been on the show saying that there

is been a lot of bias against response from judge for right so any hope now for more impartiality now that we've come so the old bailey well as christine just said we can't depend on hope but. there is enormous pressure for justice and look at the people around here he told you right here leon is now at the center of an international struggle for justice so i do think that if this court. allows the extradition of carolyn. it will go to appeal and i'm reasonably hope told that. it's type appeal that the court used to be called british justice my profile i think most people are now intensely angry that this huge miscarriage of justice. has now found its way to the old bailey to the central criminal court to be. presided over by

a system that israel people. not given through in any justice would go though the last one that i spoke to you were inside a body cage of the canary for joining us on what is the book both symbolize must be the song about that we had a goal post and it's about the fight that the cold but pain you know i've been playing football with these pay trond every time they tried to trap the scores of gold vamp no case whatsoever to get them to keep changing the mill incensing the rules moving the goalposts and they do problems to get them but they will never admit that because it's so cobol is that. they will find him to take the step back this is what we face what do you think the consequences will be if you're in a bunch is extradited to the united states he will forever be

a shining light he's a hero he's an icon he he shot all my film career got him on the pole if they're still alive because we say mass extinction we'll recognize him on the shining truth you have any hope to the british justice system will provide journalists are being extradited valorise to snow listen to public opinion public opinion is changing in favor of studios it sounds like the full like. they don't give us about that asshole that you want they want this is the problem up. he would be. he's the he has no there's no place to go. and yet they had. even with that said. they will find him guilty. because the. company. and that's why we wear these bags. because

that's what's happened to just a. bag those are some of the biggest names down here in support of judyth massage for more coverage of general saunders actually make sure to say if you're going on the ground back to you off of social media producer fine ahmed there well we've invited the u.k. government to appear on the program or provide us with a statement they haven't got back to us yet but they've said in the past that they disagree with a number of the observations by the un ruppert there on torture who detailed what he saw as torture of julian assange belmarsh prison the government also said judges are impossible and independent from government with any judgement based solely on the facts of the case and the a political law and of course u.k. prime minister boris johnson has previously said it's only right that julie innocence finally faces justice join us after the break as we speak to a man who knows all about wrongful detention dr use of one of the exonerated central park 5 you spent almost 7 is in juvenile detention for a crime he didn't commit and whose story is dramatized in netflix's award winning

show when they see us. has changed lives but pharmaceutical companies have a miraculous solution. based drugs the people who are chronic pain patients believe that their prescription is working for them in the remedy. he said 2 to the price that they paid closer dependency and addiction to opiates the long term use that really isn't scientifically justified by now study actually suggested that the long term effects might not just be absence of benefit but actually that they might be causing long term.

seemed wrong. rowles just don't call. me old that is yet to shake out these days to come to advocate and engage with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. welcome back while julian assange fights for his life in london over the next 4 weeks whether any lessons to be learned from the wrongful conviction of the 1990 central park 5 they won the largest of a payout in new york state history 41000000 dollars in the story's been dramatized

in netflix's award winning show when they see us one of the 5 talked to use of salaam joins me now from atlanta georgia his new young adult novel punching the air coauthored by ab's a boy tells a story through verse of one boy's struggle against the u.s. justice system it's out now you said thanks so much for joining us on on going underground as i said in part one we heard about the julian a songe case a lot of people think he's innocent amnesty international all these different n.g.o.s fighting for him i know you've been asked the question before but how does anyone cope with being in a maximum security prison knowing they're innocent. you know the biggest challenge just such try to figure out how to keep your mind free even though your body's in bondage as we know where your head goes your body follows and so as we begin to look at you know the opportunities even through now we've been experiencing coppa 19 and world and some people have been going out of their mind and it's because of this and the greatest thing that we can do is try to channel our inner g.

meditate as deep in as far as we can and channel our energy to keep our minds as free as possible because wherever our minds go our bodies follow but of course in this book there are so many different facets that you examine i mean there's a line here bail money let me know the people believed in me. something actually bijectively peculiarly apt for julian assange how how did bail money mean so much to you when you were incarcerated you know because the community responds and the community responds in such a powerful way by putting their dollars against the system the whole system is coming against you and a great thing about it is that in black and brown communities in those most marginalized communities in america a lot of folks get it because they've also been moaning about a spike of justice and those indelible scars that they continue to experience allow them to take their hard earned money whether it be a $1.50 cent whatever it is all of their stuff adds up and when you need to get someone out of prison because they're going through this tremendous time their

families are not also going through it's not just that individual the family is going through the awful a loss of not having them there with them the community is going through an awful time as well and so it's it's a really powerful. expression of hope of resilience of truth that someone would use their money to help to get someone out because people will know if they've seen the documentary central park 5 or the netflix t.v. show the appalling way the media can behave out as one cope when journalists are just acting as that of refers for power. you know that's the biggest challenge i think when i look at what happened in our case 2 weeks after we were accused the now president donald trump who was a real estate mogul back then took out a full page ad calling for our deaths it was essentially telling the rest of america that it was ok that open season for black people were ok and especially for

the central park 5 as we warrants gnome. they made a sly. like . part of the way they have to do with us. they hoped that someone from those most sinister sides of society would do to us what they had done to emmett till as a matter of fact another media personality pat buchanan wrote in the papers that we should take the eldest one corey wise and hang him from a tree in central park in that we should do this by june 1st and so we were we were up against tremendous odds the gravitational pull of the negativity that we were in

is something that we are experiencing now because we have social media everybody has a front row seat to all pression especially oppression in america and you know white supremacy white male dominance is something that we are all experiencing the evil of around the globe and as we try to move out of that gravitational pull fighting against spiritual wickedness in high and low places we have a tremendous opportunity because the best thing about being born in the struggle is that you're automatically born on the side of right you're automatically born fighting for true freedom justice and equality not the imagined system that doesn't include all of us were talking about the inclusion of the kaleidoscope of the human family in the same way that dr king had a dream. and in this book malcolm x. as mentioned quite early on in punching the air i should say julia suds talked about black eyes matter back then but of course he was exposing ellerey clinton you

. obviously have feelings about the whole trump taking out those advertisement calling for your deaths but of course it was biden who is responsible for mass incarceration policy harris the vice presidential nominee was. there's a case daniel lawson an innocent man she wanted to jail for the 3 strikes law what can americans do now to prevent future central park. where you know what i look at i look at the fact that we have the opportunity now that we understand that it's not about just so to speak having a plan for the weekend we can't even just have a 5 year plan we need to have generational plans and as we play on this game of chess the idea in the understanding is that we're making incremental successes in guinea and so yes right now we were looking at the current election and the possibilities of what ought to come but i think it did mindset of you of of the

heartbeat of america is different the mindset of our ancestors wildest dreams has been crying out and we've been talking about yesterday we were talking about reform and now today we're talking about abolition we're talking about tearing the whole system down a system that was imagined not to include us we were always seen as 3 fifths of a human being thank god i did. not you hear i'm the only had to have this because let's see we were relegated to the new cotton fields of the of america through the criminal justice system a system that i call the criminal system of injustice it's a description. yeah you social on the 16th 11th grade. here. i'm actually 30 graduate high school next year you tell me 15 each each give some grace. and i change the birth date on. a.

china person wrote i'm going to 60. but now we have this opportunity to imagine what the great future will be like not necessarily for us but for our children's children's children and so in that incremental gain we have to make sure that the 46 president is much better than the 45th president and because we are the people and we are the ones who will agitate we are the ones who will hold people to their promises we are moving in the political space in a way that we have never will before we have our eyes wide open and that's one of the things that 2020 has given us is given us the awesome opportunity to have 2020 vision we see things perfectly now and as we move into 2021 and beyond we move with the knowledge and the truth of what we need to be about and we are going to be about that very thing in

a very very powerful way that adds life to us and that as life to the rest of the world yeah but if you are right now in prison maybe watching this program what hope can you have from joe biden that alone donald trump well i tell you what if we look at a person's past 4 point past performance we can predict what they will do in the future now you're looking at both candidates and we already know that. donald trump is running as the law and order president donald trump is saying that he wants to make a good america great again on the echoes that we're hearing in the background of states' rights and we know that states' rights means especially in the south to mean states' rights to own slaves you know of course the child would deny that and when you talk about the past you know that joe biden gave an impassioned speech for mass incarceration joe biden was opposed to the segregated schools not donald trump . well listen i mean if you look at it all we're talking about certain ology at its

highest form and even though someone will deny this or someone has done this in the past what i would always say is we we like i have a different sort of speak connection to dollar chunk of course and as we look at america right now what do we see we see that person at the top of the country saying that he is trying to unite us but then telling the good municipalities to get control over their cities in their states and what are those municipalities doing there being us in the in the face it's almost like malcolm x. what he said he said they'll bus you in the mouth and then they'll charge you for being the accuser or the abuser it's like victim blaming we we've had enough of that and even if a new president is called into office the greatest thing that happens is that we the people have a new mind and we have

a new opportunity because we're not looking at things like ok we'll just put that person in office and then we'll turn a blind eye and go back to do what we're doing we see what's going on in the streets and enough is enough it's about abolition now not about making a band-aid over the cut well we saw the defunding the police campaign we saw a brief flicker of statues coming down of racists it even happened over here after the george floyd killing your book weaves in and out of imperialism colonial legacy is in africa what about the fight back to all trump said just in the past few days no such as a coming down on his watch. we'll see that's the thing we're still talking about rick knology right the people are speaking. this is the united states the imagery that we see in the word united states is us meaning us but we've known that the imagined vision of the founding fathers did not include us as

a matter of fact on the heels of the massive patient proclamation the 13th amendment was included in the founding documents of this country which allowed slavery to continue by another name as we look at the criminal justice system we i call it in many of many of my constituents call it the criminal system of injustice because for us it has been just that we can clearly see that you can have a person shoot up a church and be captured alive and you can have a person sitting in their car reading a book and be murdered you have so many examples of the duality of american the the american criminal justice system that is criminal to see what's going on and is trick knology to tell us that we are getting better when we look like we're getting worse when we're experiencing more worse and more treachery more pression we want the american dream we collectively have the foot of america or the need of america

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the british prime minister plunges england into a 3rd lock down it will see businesses and schools close their doors until mid february while people are ordered to stay home also ahead. of it's true. a british judge rules against extraditing the wiki leaks founder julian assange is to the u.s. soil for mental health concerns but as the current editor in chief of wiki leaks points out questions over press freedom remain. a day 0 with wind for julian assange.