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to extradite him because of. his mental health. government or the another state might not. be somebody else in the same way. very very far. ahead. of the country.

now supporters of june. did after the shock decision by a british judge to refuse a u.s. extradition request their relation though is tempered by the fact that he remains in custody while the americans launch an appeal on wednesday the wiki leaks co-founder will find out if his bail application has been successful. now while the extradition denial is good news for a songe press freedom groups are dismayed because the judge maintained that the u.s. had a solid case against him she was concerned rather that extradition would adversely affect his already poor mental health artie's more against the looks at the message the ruling sends to journalists. it may not yet be but are these a wean a songe the now has been span being fed into the muscle a sma can until mouth of the u.s.

justice system. was. 'd 6 the verdict was a damning indictment of the songes mental health will how it must have deteriorated for a judge in such a politically charged case to have made it the chief consideration she just didn't believe he'd survive in the u.s. jail the overall impressions of a depressed and sometimes despairing man who is generally fearful about his future the risk to mr science will commit suicide is a substantial one for years we've heard about the psychological torture of julian a songe the better part of a decades bent in hiding in fear of political persecution it has taken a terrible toll and sent an even more terrible message in

a sense the system has succeeded in intimidating the world and passing the message that this is what's going to happen to you if ever you have the idea of publishing our dirty secrets and making that known to the world because the judgment comes from this rationale and this whole narrative of criminalizing investigative journalism and book blowing at it or noise even to the tiny risks that it would still have that its own supreme court in the u.s. might overturn a. judgment against to in essence based on on the 1st amendment the country to say as was done in the pentagon papers we have to recognize that the other investigative journalist just may not have. used a year. important health issue could still be extradited to the u.s. based on the exactly same charges the ruling may have been a small win for a son but it's spelled to do for whistleblowers and the judge's opinion journalists

shouldn't be allowed to solicits dam namely to publish an redacted scandals in my judgment mr sanchez a legend to vicki's went beyond the mere encouragement of a whistleblower free speech does not comprise a trunk card even when matters of serious public concern are this closed and it does not provide an unfair to right for some like mr sashi to decide the fate of others essential ie the judge accepted almost every one of washington's arguments against the sun and by implication whistleblowers what this means is that if you is a professional rule citizen journalist soo much is ask for information about a potential state and you get it via any means but their press office you and who have the knicks it a liable to be prosecuted and if you publish that information and someone feels that someone might be threatened by it while you charge is just doubled the only

reason why a journalist was not extradited and submitted to the espionage legislation the united states was his health condition otherwise he would be extradited so it's very very worrying dots. that joshua basically creamy now lies journalistic p.v.t. . only in the last $350.00 save the american prison system is so pretty so fresh picture you would be at risk of suicide if i said to the american to barack or thought not going to she said there's no public interest there's no it there's no defense for journalists to come before you like probably journalists or you. actually what most germans do recall this thing is that there's no public interest rates these are these with very very bad reports but this is not

just about him personally it's about journalism it's about freedom it's about freedom of speech it's about freedom of the press and all those things are being undermined both in this country are by the action of the people of the united states the trying to get him to be extradited to the pushing this action here and the socially the judge agreed with the u.s. government on everything. which leaves a horrible precedent for future journalists activists whistleblowers even happier as president these inserts ease catastrophic that essentially outlaws not only whistle blowing but encouraging whistleblowers to do what they think is right what we're left with these as you have new ways to target and punish those with a functioning moral compass or a gas if they were u.s. prosecutors have already indicated that they will appeal against the court says in

not to extradite asuncion i have 2 weeks to do that i mean well we spoke to roger waters a founding member of the rock band pink floyd and a long time supporter of cheering us on change things this is a battle for human rights we his supporters have to be saying you have to bail him out he has he's suffered. way beyond any suffering that should have been be to doubt him for his one small bio infringement which is only crime under u.k. law because of by him now let the man begin to live this is a battle not just for the life of a one great truly great journalist julian assange it's a battle for the survival of the human brain if we give the 4th estate if we allow. the united states government to crucify a journalist on the grounds that he revealed war crimes by them.

then we give up our access to the real world. to leave him alone and if somebody comes along and says actually you know what that's not true this government murdered journalists by machine gunning them from a helicopter in baghdad in 2007 and we know they did and here is the proof and we're going to publish it and then and and then we will say you can't do that because if you do we're going to kill you is that the world we want to live in. now is not the 1st time that the u.k. has blocked a u.s. extradition request over mental health in 2002 british hacking gary mckinnon he was accused of breaching u.s. military computer systems he had been found guilty and he could have faced up to 70 years in prison in america while after

a decade long legal battle to reason may be then home secretary refused to send him stateside citing the risk of suicide r.t. spoke exclusively to mckinnon about the son's case. we should even be in this position you know 7 years in the ecuadorian embassy the best part of 2 years in belmarsh prison. for telling the truth you know he's not a criminal. jury and did their best to always ensure that they have the intelligence assets in danger and it really has been journalism on trial mainly in marji mainly to the the heavy handed us authorities but also exacerbated by this particularly imbalance a traditional treaty we have between a president and america can only imagine julian says exactly the same as when i was under house arrest it was at my own house not unlike your going to say. it really is. incredibly difficult it's awful i got to the point of suicide i'm short periods and suicidal thoughts and you're trying to maintain normality you're trying to

fight your case you're trying to live as normal a life as you can but you've got this unbearable pressure inside and when it goes on for 7 years 10 years it gets worse and worse and worse it is really really difficult to handle all stateside the committee to protect journalists has welcomed the british courts decision to block songes extradition its head is aging the u.s. department of justice now had to drop all charges against wiki leaks co-founder we heartened that a british court has denied the united states request to extradite julian assange launch the us government's decision to charge the wiki leaks founder said a harmful legal precedent for the persecution of journalists around the world simply for interacting with their sources we have the u.s. department of justice to refrain from further pursuing extradition through appeals and to drop all charges against a stone age but as we know that play has fallen on deaf ears with the u.s. intent on a painting in the united kingdom he's head of martin takes

a closer look now at washington's war against the whistleblower. so a huge win for julian assad but the usa is still not ready to back down while we are extremely disappointed in the colts ultimate decision we are gratified that the united states prevailed on every points of law raised in particular the culture jets and all of mr songs as arguments regarding political motivation political offense fair trial and freedom of speech we will continue to seek mr saunders extradition to the united states washington quickly announced it intends to appeal and continue pursuing the extradition of julian aside this makes sense as politicians from both sides of the united states political spectrum have placed a target on his back or to argue that it's closer than in the high tech terrorists it is an attack on the international community we are not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty i want to do it illegally shoot the son of a son should be assassinated actually they're tough and say if we catch you we're

going to hang you whatever when the world's top military power is out for your blood you don't really stand much of a chance they're ready to throw the book at him he's facing 18 different charges 17 for espionage and one for attempted hacking of a u.s. government computer if convicted he could face up to 175 years in u.s. prisons the law being invoked is an obscure piece of legislation known as the espionage act from 1917 it was originally used against peace activists during the 1st world war now the parts of the law that suppressed free speech had been cut down by the courts but now it's being used against whistleblowers human rights activists call it a tool of intimidation the espionage act must be reformed it locks the public interest to fund it any publisher any journalist any source finds himself subject to similar proceeding they cannot adequately defend themselves today's decision does not inspire confidence that the us government or the another state might not turn to to pursue somebody else in the same way so that seriously needs to be

addressed and we will continue to advocate for broader rick. i want to strengthen protections for journalists for sources for whistleblowers because at present they were anybody trying to publish similar information to what we can at least they could find themselves in very hot water that the case is far from over u.s. officials are very unlikely to forget all the damaging information that found its way into the public eye thanks to julian assange and wiki leaks.

but we do believe. burnside in this trial in barrister he's previously advocated on a sound his behalf told us about the whistleblowers prospects. i'm aware that everyone is concerned that the americans are appealing about there's nothing to stop assad from cross appealing a songes fundamental position is that he was acting as every journalist acts you know ever since the daniel ellsberg case in russia the pentagon papers it has been fundamental in american role that a person who merely acts as a journalist has the protection of the 1st amendment and. even if the person who leaked information to them. commits an offense it is not

a criminal offense to publish that material the most notorious of the disclosures by wiki leaks was the video collateral murder which i think upsets the american the great deal that that video was released by assad along with a lot of other material later and. we most of us would not have heard about it except that it was republished by the major news networks across the across the world now the leaders of the major news networks are not being prosecuted they're not being attacked vindictively the west i'm just being attacked. well our guest all said discuss the implications of the isaan training. it was a truly disparate surprising decision because you know i expected a judge who had ruled so often in support of the british security state to simply be a rubber stamp and what was interesting about it to me was the way that the judge's

decision essentially endorsed the entire narrative of the us national security state and at the same time they seem to find a way 'd of saving face you know we're at such a pivotal time where news and truth and and getting out information is so don't necessary and so what one hopes that can come from this is a delay meet a slight delay in the process to as races to allow a new president to come in who may take a different view of this. place to eliminate this mess coming into the united states this despicable act where people can't defend them shane where the cia will be shown to have interfered with lawyers others were that terrible shape the collateral murder to be shown endlessly about what our troops to do the

right. the political nature of the accusations and the impact on freedom of the press makes it a very difficult to get a fair trial we're starting to see elements of the establishment media and establishment n.g.o.s press freedom organizations which had been muted on julian a songe largely due to his demonization by the press they're starting to speak up for him and they're starting to say this is an attack on all of us the political left or what passes for it in the united states has been very muted and we've seen remarkable developments for example in mexico with president andres money. well lopez obrador actually offering to give sanctuary to julian assange is to take him in this is a president of a country that's historically been allied with the u.s. and so julian assange has summoned so many of these new currents of resistance

to empire and it's going to be interesting to see. where he winds up maybe we need a u.n. peacekeeping unit to come in and surround him lest he be droned death or otherwise choi get it for a session ation by whomever i mean it's sounds crazy be to be speaking about these things but i've been there i've been there in that embassy and i've seen how he's been treated and i know he's in the enemy number one from pump a 0 to 2 to anyone so my immediate concern is that he rarely. go out out of the out of belmarsh without a security detail that is equipped to take on anyone well i just want to say that i think that their goal is to debilitate him not to chart try him and there they've been succeeding at that is in the state and his is ability to hurt him in the

future or this is probably been damaged to some. some degree obviously and so i think that i don't think the assassination type scenario serves them either they just want to. neuter the messenger if you will we'll see what happens on wednesday i do believe ultimately julian assize will be a free man but he should be released immediately the conditions in a maximum security prison in london are not much better than those in the u.s. so i fail to see the case for holding him there 'd and still continuing to abuse him psychologically and physically so then the next chapter in the case is a decision on his bio and that will be made to be heard on one stay and of course we'll bring you all the developments as they happen an ati.

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dot com john welcome back to stacy now john we've known you for many years going back treat bitcoin days and well 2020 seems to be the year that driven the dollar to collapse in a way that gold was unable to. welcome back boris johnson has imposed another national lockdown in england the country's 3rd since the spring the british prime minister said he hopes the move will be enough to contain a highly contagious variant of it currently spreading around the country that as the u.k. is pushing toward 60000 new cases a day. we now have

a new variant of the virus and it's been both frustrating and alarming to see the speed with which the new variant is spreading. scientists have confirmed this new variant is between 50 and 70 percent more transmissible in england we was therefore going to a national lockdown which is tough enough to contain this variant if come back full circle to to last march when we were told to stay home protect the n.h.s. and to save lives and that mantra was repeated by boris johnson again today and is in force once again what it means simply enough is that people in england are being told to stay home except for a number of reasons essential shopping work if that work can't be done from home exercise urgent medical needs or in cases where someone is threatened with domestic violence and has to get out there's also significant pressure coming for parents and students as primary and secondary schools will move to remote learning from

tomorrow and the closure of schools is a major government u. turn as the pm had said that he was determined the primary schools at least in england would stay open he did say that there is a rather downbeat meds message of course that the oxford astra zeneca vaccine means that the biggest max nation program in the u.k. history can now be effectively rolled out and that he hopes that the most vulnerable will all have been vaccinated by mid february for goes well but berman says says that now more than ever we must pull together many people here are going to be extremely frustrated that the government has given them almost no notice again for yet another major life upheaval and is once again being reactive rather than proactive with covert 19 by the way we're back in lockdown in england and the new rules are going to become law from wednesday. well a tightening of restrictions has been seen across the u.k. just before johnson's announcement the mainland part of scotland also moved into

lockdown under the new rules people they're required to stay at home and work remotely of possible and wales northern ireland have had stricter measures in place since late december i cried biologist at reading university simon clarke believes that the situation has not been heading in the right direction if the numbers of the factions are growing up by definition restrictions on a working because of the very minimum they should cause them to level off ideally you want to drive them around so if the numbers are going up then they're not working so really there are only a few leavers left to pool and there are. closing schools and universities. restrictively amount of people that go to work on a daily basis that those really really have. meanwhile in india medical experts there are sounding the alarm over what they say is the

country's rushed decision to approve 2 vaccines on sunday india approved a drug based on the astra zeneca vaccine and another created by an indian biotech company a senior health official said both shots a totally safe but it seems not everybody shares that confidence. based on the full goals regimen for both shots that got approved astra zeneca had a chance 62 percent efficacy this is much lower than any other vaccine that has been approved in many countries the all india drug action network is shocked to learn of a c.c.s. recommendation to grants approval of bharat biotechs kovacs in its appears that no efficacy data for the vaccine candidate was submitted from the phase 3 trials that are ongoing i'm completely confused parent has some data in preparation but as far as i'm aware there is absolutely no efficacy data that has been presented published . ok let's discuss this further now but dr and barney's

a former president of the international association of bioethics and he is one of the skeptics to just quickly pursed 1st thanks for coming on but just quickly the indian prime minister says that the code vaccine job is a game changer why the skepticism. sure thank you for having me so i think you know all of us who have been raising some concerns with regards to these vaccine approve worlds are strong supporters of indian science and the indian magazine industry which actually has played an important role in global health the concerns here out about primarily a lack of transparency in that a greater process we know that this decision has been taken but it's not very clear right now on what basis the decision has been taken what kind of leader was some of that how was that considered to be adequate and what is the need of this approval because they've also used language which is not very clear in terms of allowing these to be used for district of emergency use in clinical trial mode and cetera so

i think the concerns are not so much mostly with regards to the work seen being unsafe or not. but rather the process not being clear and transparent like one would make especially at times of a pandemic when everything is being expected i suppose some would argue that's the reason why it has to be rushed if you want to use that word because it's an emergency situation in these drugs or this one in particular would only be used for restricted you see would be better many people would think the nothing until. the scientific requirements to evaluate any new interventions specifically go back scene you still need to base your decision on you know safety and efficacy that's the core of any dignity decision and that support their requires clarity to be about if we were to know what was the basis of that decision and what is going to be that they were looked at i think they would be less things idea about the

decision also we know that as your as your program was already highlighting that there are studies happening with both of these vaccines and those are ongoing it's not very clear what level of data is already available which might have been used in making this decision so hopefully we will see the regulator providing more context and more details which will help some of these concerns because you know while everyone is keen on having a vaccine it's also important to ensure that there's a fair number of public confidence in the decisions which are happening in the vaccines being used i just don't know what is the level of public trust then i vivacious. well i'm sure there is a lot of people who are keen on summation but you know not a lot of people understand what it means when you have this kind of classification you're not a strict emergency use the routine person who might be to be activated might not know what means when you have been given in clinical trial more also my part we understood the lay person would think that the vaccines are not what we double in

there i think it shows they might not understand that this is only based on maybe in bed in data and not impaired if you can see data sets and hence that also requires you to go out there and explain things you know that's part of the public engagement exercise which i'm sure the government will be doing but also ensure that over a lot of health workers who are going to be the 1st in line to get the shot who probably have a little bit confused on questions of if we can see etc because that data is not in the public domain. leave it there good to get your thoughts there that was talk to an unbound former president of the international satiation of bioethics speaking to us live from india thank you thank you for watching take just on half time here in moscow back again at the top of the.