supporters have. to extradite him to the united states. the fact that he remains in custody. in the pale we get reaction from one of the high profile supporters. his supporters.

are also concerned by the. charges against refusing to extradite him only because. his mental health. does not inspire the government or that another state might not pursue somebody else in the same way. very very far. to come the. prime minister. is still. there good afternoon you're watching international. supporters june sancerre

related after the shock decision by a british judge to refuse a u.s. extradition request relation. by the fact that he remains in custody while the americans launch an appeal on wednesday that we can find will find out if he. has been successful. crime. now while the blocking of the extradition is good news for a sanch press freedom groups are dismayed that's because the judge maintained that the us had a solid case against him and only refused to send him to the us over concerns for his poor mental health gaz they have now looks at the message the revealing sends to journalists. it may not yet be but it is a wean a songe the now has been span being fed into the muscle a sma can until mouth of the u.s.

justice system. was. the verdict was a damning indictment of the songes mental health will how it must have deteriorated for a judge in such a politically charged case to have made it the chief consideration she just didn't believe he'd survive in the u.s. jail the overall impressions of a depressed and sometimes despairing man who is generally fearful about his future the risk to mr science will commit suicide is a substantial one for years we've heard about the psychological torture of julian a songe the better part of a decades bent in hiding in fear of political persecution it has taken a terrible toll and sent an even more terrible message in

a sense the system has succeeded in intimidating the world and passing the message that this is what's going to happen to you if ever you have to publishing our dirty secrets and making that known to the world because the judgment comes from this rationale and this whole narrative of criminalizing investigative journalism and book blowing at it avoids even to the tiny risks that it would still have that its own supreme court in the u.s. might overturn a. judgment against to in essence based on on the 1st amendment of the country to say as was done in the pentagon papers we have to recognize that other investigative journalist just may not have a use a year. important health issue could still be extradited to the u.s. based on the exactly same charges the ruling may have been a small win for a son but it's spelled due for whistleblowers and the judge's opinion journalists

shouldn't be allowed to solicits damning leaks or to publish and redacted scandals in my judgment mr sanchez a legit to vittie went beyond the mere encouragement of a whistleblower free speech does not comprise a trunk card even when matters of serious public concern are this closed and it does not provide an and fatter right for some like mr sashi to decide the fate of others essential ie the judge accepted almost every one of washington's arguments against the sun that by implication whistleblowers what this means is that if he who is a professional rule citizen journalist soo much is asked for information about a potential state and you get it via any means but their press office you and who have a nice it a liable to be prosecuted and if you publish that information and someone feels that someone might be threatened by it charges just doubled the only reason why

a journalist was not extradited and submitted to the espionage legislation the united states was his health condition otherwise he would be extradited so it's very very warning. jaja basically crimi no life. journalistic ditties. only in the last mode it would fit did she say the american prison system is so pretty so threatening to kill you would be at risk of suicide if i sent them to america to america thought not going to she said there's no public interest there's no we there's no defense for journalists to compete like proper journalists are you to actually do what most journalists do recall very seriously there's no public interest rates these are these with very very tired remarks but that this is not just about him personally it's about

journalism it's about freedom it's about freedom of speech it's about freedom of the press and all those things are being undermined both in this country are by the auction of the people in the united states they're trying to get him to be extradited in the pushing this action here and the socially the judge agreed with the u.s. government on everything. which leaves a horrible precedent for future journalists activists whistleblowers even happier us president these inserts ease catastrophic that essentially outlaws not only whistle blowing but encouraging whistleblowers to do what they think is right what we're left with these as you have new ways to target and punish those with a functioning moral compass. where u.s. prosecutors have already said that they will appeal against the course of siege not to extradite assange and they do have 2 weeks to do that meanwhile we spoke to

roger waters he's a founding member of the rock band pink floyd and a long time supporter of jena songe he thinks this is a battle for human rights we his supporters have to be saying you have to bail him out he has he's suffered. way beyond any suffering that should have been meted out same for his warnings mo bio infringement which he sees only a crime under u.k. goal a case of by him now that the man begin to live this is a battle not just for the life of a one great truly great journalist julian assange is a battle for the survival of this human brain if we give the full 3 states if we allow. the united states government to crucify a journalist on the grounds that he revealed war crimes by them.

then we give up our access to the real world and the 2nd believe brought you a list and if somebody comes along and says actually you know what that's not true this government murdered journalists by machine gunning them from a helicopter in baghdad in 2007 and we know they did and here is the proof and we're going to publish it and then and and then we'll say you can't do that because if you do we're going to kill you is that the well we want to live in. well it's not the 1st time that the u.k. has blocked the u.s. extradition case over mental health in 2000 into a british hacker gary mckinnon here was accused of breaking u.s. military computer systems had he been found guilty he could have faced up to 17 years in prison in america well after a decade long legal battle to reason may then the secretary refused to send him

stateside citing the risk of suicide artie's bike exclusively to mckinnon about the sound case. we surely will be in this position you know 70 is the ecuadorian embassy the best part of 2 years in belmarsh prison for telling the truth you know he's not a criminal. jury and did their best to always ensure that they lived for intelligent assets in danger and it really has been journalism on trial mainly him but you may lead to the heavy handed us authorities but also exacerbated by this particularly imbalanced tradition treaty between britain and america can only imagine julian says exactly the same results when i was under house arrest it was that my own house not and i could organise it. it really is. incredibly difficult it's awful i got to the point of suicide and suicidal thoughts and you're trying to maintain normality you're trying to fight your case you're trying to live as normal

a life as you can but you've got this unbearable pressure inside and when it goes on for 7 years 10 years it gets worse and worse and worse it is really really difficult to handle. or stateside the committee to protect journalists is welcome the british court's decision to block the songes extradition to its head is the us department of justice to drop all charges against the wiki leaks co-founder. we heartened that a british court has denied the united states' request to extradite julian assange on the u.s. government's decision to charge the wiki leaks founder said a harmful legal precedent for the prosecution of journalists around the world simply for interacting with their sources we as the u.s. department of justice to refrain from further pursuing extradition through appeals and to drop all charges against a stone age however that plane does appear to foreign on death is by the us saying it does intend to a pale in the u.k. article of open takes a closer look now at washington's war against the whistleblower. so

a huge win for julian assad but the usa is still not ready to back down while we are extremely disappointed in the colts ultimate decision we are gratified that the united states prevailed on every points of law raised in particular the culture jets and all of mr saunders arguments regarding political motivation political offense fair trial and freedom of speech we will continue to seek mr saunders extradition to the united states washington quickly announced it intends to appeal and continue pursuing the extradition and julian aside this makes sense as politicians from both sides of the united states political spectrum placed a target on his back or to argue that it is closer to the high tech terrorists it is an attack on the international community we are not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty i want to do it illegally shoot the son of a son should be assassinated actually they're tough and say if we catch you we're

going to hang you whatever when the world's top military power is out for your blood you don't really stand much of a chance they're ready to throw the book at him he's facing 18 different charges 17 for as and one for attempted hacking of a u.s. government computer if convicted he could face up to 175 years in u.s. prisons the law being invoked is an obscure piece of legislation known as the espionage act from 1917 it was originally used against peace activists during the 1st world war now the parts of the law that suppressed free speech had been cut down by the courts but now it's being used against whistleblowers human rights activists call it a tool of intimidation the espionage act must be reformed it lacks the public interest to fund it any publisher any journalist any source finds himself subject to similar proceeding they cannot adequately defend themselves today's decision does not inspire confidence that the u.s. government or the another state might not the time to pursue somebody else in the same way so that seriously needs to be addressed and we will continue to advocate

for broader rick. i want to strengthen protections for journalists for sources for whistleblowers because at present they were anybody trying to publish similar information to what we can because they could find themselves in very hot water that the case is far from over u.s. officials are very unlikely to forget all the damaging information that found its way into the public eye thanks to julian assange and wiki leaks. but we do believe.

in burnside now australian barrister he's previously represented this songe told us about the whistleblowers prospects. i'm aware that everyone is concerned that the americans. appealing. there's nothing to stop assad from cross appealing a songes fundamental position is that he was acting as every journalist acts you know ever since the daniel ellsberg case in russia the pentagon papers it has been fundamental in american role that a person who merely acts as a journalist has the protection of the 1st amendment and. even if the person who leaked information to them. commits an offense it is not a criminal offense to publish that material the most notorious of the disclosures

by wiki leaks was the video collateral murder which i think upset the american the great deal that that video was released by assad along with a lot of other material later and. we most of us would not have heard about it except that it was republished by the major news networks across the across the world now the leaders of the major news networks are not being prosecuted they're not thing attacked vindictively the last i'm just being attacked. and we further discuss the implications of the decision with a panel of guests. it was a truly disparate surprising decision because you know i expected a judge who had ruled so often in support of the british security state to simply be a rubber stamp and what was interesting about it to me was the way that the judge's

decision essentially endorsed the entire narrative of the u.s. national security state and at the same time they seem to find a way 'd of saving face you know we're at such a pivotal time where news and truth and and getting out information is so don't necessary and so what one hopes that can come from this is a delay meet a slight delay in the process to as races to allow a new president to come in who may take a different view of this nation a certain planes place to eliminate this mess coming into the united states this despicable act where people can't defend themselves where the cia will be shown to have interfered with lawyers who knew others were that terrible shape the collateral murder to be shown endlessly about what our troops to do the right. the

political nature of the accusations and the impact on freedom of the press makes it a very difficult to get a fair trial we're starting to see elements of the establishment media and establishment n.g.o.s press freedom organizations which had been muted on julian a songe largely due to his demonization by the press they're starting to speak up for him and they're starting to say this is an attack on all of us the political 'd left or what passes for it in the united states has been very muted and we've seen remarkable developments for example in mexico with president andres money. well lopez obrador actually offering to give sanctuary to julian a songe to take him in this is a president of a country that's historically been allied with the u.s. and so julian assange has summoned so many of these new currents of resistance

to empire and it's going to be interesting to see where he winds up maybe we need a u.n. peacekeeping unit to come in and surround him lest he be droned death or otherwise targeted for assassination by whomever i mean it's sounds crazy be to be speaking about these things but i've been there i've been there and that embassy and i've seen how he's been treated and i know he's in the enemy number one from pump a 0 to 2 to anyone so my immediate concern is that he rarely that he not go out out of the out of belmarsh without a security detail that is equipped to take on anyone well i just want to say that i think that their goal is to debilitate him not to chart try him and they're they've they've been succeeding at that is mental state and his is ability to hurt him in

the future or this is probably been damaged to some. some degree obviously and so i think that. i don't think the assassination type scenario serves them either they just want to. neuter the messenger if you will we'll see what happens on wednesday i do believe ultimately julian assize will be a free man but he should be released immediately the conditions in a maximum security prison in london are not much better than those in the u.s. so i fail to see the case for holding him there 'd and still continuing to abuse him psychologically and physically. so venice we heard that the next chapter in the a songe case is a decision on his bio and that will be made all men stay in of course we'll bring you all the latest developments as they happen here on out.

so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy foundation let it be an arms race is often spearing dramatic development only mostly i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. the world is driven by dreamers shaped by one person.

in the day or thinks. we dare to ask. people. about again boris johnson has imposed another national lockdown in england the country's 3rd since the spring the british prime minister said he hopes that the move will be enough to contain a highly contagious very good cover spreading around the country that is the u.k. is pushing towards $60000.00 new cases a day. we now have

a new variant of the virus and it's been both frustrating and alarming to see the speed with which the new variant is spreading. scientists have confirmed this new variant is between 50 and 70 percent more transmissible in england we was therefore going to a national lockdown which is tough enough to contain this variant if come back full circle to to last march when we were told to stay home protect the n.h.s. and to save lives and that mantra was repeated by boris johnson again today and is in force once again what it means simply enough is that people in england are being told to stay home except for a number of reasons essential shopping work if that work can't be done from home exercise urgent medical needs or in cases where someone is threatened with domestic violence and has to get out there's also significant pressure coming for parents

and students as primary and secondary schools will move to remote learning from tomorrow and the closure of schools is a major government u. turn as the pm had said that he was determined the primary schools at least in england would stay open he did say that there is a rather downbeat meds message of course that the oxford astra zeneca vaccine means that the biggest max nation program in the u.k. history can now be effectively rolled out and that he hopes that the most vulnerable will all have been vaccinated by mid february for goes well. but berman says says that now more than ever we must pull together many people who are going to be extremely frustrated that the government has given them almost no notice again for yet another major life upheaval and is once again being reactive rather than proactive with covert 19 by the way we're back in lockdown in england and the new rules are going to become law from wednesday. well a tightening of restrictions has been seen across the u.k. because just before johnson's announcement the mainland part of scotland also moved

into lockdown and under the new rules people there are required to stay at home and work from oakley if possible and wales and northern ireland have had shrunk to measures in place since late december microbiologist at reading university simon clarke believes the crisis has not been heading in the right direction. if the numbers of the affections are going up by definition restrictions on a working because it is very minimal they should cause them to level off ideally you want to drive them around so if the numbers are going up then they're not working so really there are only a few leaders left to pull from there are. closing schools and universities. restrictively amount of people that go to work on a daily basis to gross you really really have. that in india medical experts there are sounding the alarm over what they say is the country's

rushed decision to approve to vaccines on sunday india approved a drug based on the astra zeneca vaccine and another created by an indian biotech company a senior health official said the base shots are totally safe but it seems not everybody shares that confidence. all those regimen for both shots that got approved astra zeneca had chances to 2 percent efficacy this is much lower than any other vaccine that has been approved in many countries the all india drug action network is shocked to learn of a c.c.s. recommendation to grants approval of barrett's biotechs kovacs in its appears that no efficacy data for the vaccine candidate was submitted from the phase 3 trials that are ongoing i'm completely confused parent has some data in preparation but as far as i'm aware there is absolutely no efficacy data that has been presented a published health experts from a needed share with us their thoughts and concerns over the vaccines approval

fall of us in the in the face of science and public health that quite. astonished to see. if you just look from the the data which is available to us the astra zeneca vaccine we're looking at in africa c.t. done for 60 plus and. said on the don't really have the necessary i think a cd so i think from that particular perspective for a country with 1200000000 people who provide these 2 vaccines me not the one on the most strategy and the best decisions to be taken letting there are i don't vaccinate in the want and the government should have considered the from an advocacy the we have concerns in respect of both the approvals in respect of the part of biotech specs even the callback seen of course the primary concern is the lack of efficacy the doubt because the phase 3 trial is still ongoing in india and

currently it is too early for there to be any data for any interim analyses to have taken place in the case of syria. not all of the details from the indian bridging study were submitted to the regulator it specially in the nation to immunogenicity the efficacy data also that were taken from the trials of astra zeneca and oxford vaccine in respect of those do you do we do not have any clarity about what do you doubt will consider and what efficacy estimates will considered in granting the indian approvals as you know the efficacy would vary depending on the dosing regimen the indo of the between doses and other factors concerns here out about primarily a lack of transparency in that a greater process we know that this decision has been taken but it's not very clear very on what basis the decision has been taken what kind of be there was some of that how was that considered to be adequate and what is the meat of this approval because they've also used language which is not very clear in terms of allowing

these to be used for district of emergency use in clinical trial mode it cetera so i think the concerns are not so much per se with regards to the work seen being unsafe or not if you but rather the process not being clear transparent like one would make especially at times of a bribe to make when everything is being exploited. coming up top pos 3 in the afternoon here in moscow you watch not a thank you company more from us in about half an ass time. join me every thursday on the alex i'm unsure when i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see if. anyone else seems wrong well we just don't call. me.

yet to shape out this day after. and in detroit because the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. welcome back to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser time now to go to john rubino of dollar collapse dot com john welcome back to the stacy now john we've known you for many years going back pretty good coing days and well 2020 seems to be the year that.