many by blocking the extradition of. attention to his appeal. appeal artie's heard from some of his high profile followers. his supporters have to be saying. he has. and he should be. press freedom groups a concern by the ruling the courts largely supported washington's charges against.

him because of. concern. does not inspire confidence. that another state might not the time to pursue somebody else in the same way. very very far. and. criminalizes. around the clock across the world your r.t. international from the team on myself you know me well hello and welcome to the program. following a british courts blocking the extradition of julian assange is to be united states

the whistleblower supporters are turning their attention to the fact he remains in custody while the americans launch an appeal the wiki leaks co-founder will learn on wednesday if his bail up location has been approved. while the blocking of the extradition is of course good news for us press freedom groups are dismayed that's because the judgement tain the us have a solid case against them and we refuse the sentence that's because of concerns over his frail mental health artie's morocco's the of has been looking at the message the ruling since to journalists. it may not yet be me but of these a wean a songe the now has been span being said into the muscle us mechanical mouth of the u.s. justice system. was. 6

the verdict was a damning indictment of the songes mental health will how it must have deteriorated for a judge in such a politically charged case to have made it the chief consideration she just didn't believe he'd survive in the u.s. jail the overall impressions of a depressed and sometimes despairing man who is generally fearful about his future the wrist and mr science will commit suicide is a substantial one for years we've heard about the psychological torture of julian a songe the better part of a decades bent in hiding in fear of political persecution it has taken a terrible toll and sent an even more terrible message in

a sense the system has succeeded in intimidating the world and passing the message that this is what's going to happen to you if ever you have to publishing our dirty secrets and making that known to the world because judgment comes from this rationale and this whole narrative of criminalizing investigative journalism and book blowing at it avoids even to the tiny risks that it would still have that its own supreme court in the u.s. might overturn a. judgment against to in essence based on on the 1st amendment of the country to say as was done in the pentagon papers we have to recognize that other investigative journalist just may not have used a year. important health issue could still be extradited to the u.s. based on the exactly same charges the ruling may have been a small win for a son but it spelled doom for whistleblowers and the judge's opinion journalists

shouldn't be allowed to solicits dam name leaks or to publish an redacted scandals in my judgment mr sanchez a legit to vicki's went beyond the mere encouragement of a whistleblower free speech does not comprise a trunk card it will when matters of serious public concern are this closed and it does not provide an unfettered right for some like mr sashi to decide the fate of others essential ie the judge accepted almost every one of washington's arguments against the sun and by implication whistleblowers what this means is that if you is a professional rule citizen journalist soo much is ask for information about a potential state and you get it by any means but their press office you and who have the knicks it's a liable to be prosecuted and if you publish that information and someone feels that someone might be threatened by it while you charge is just doubled the only

reason why a journalist was not extradited and submitted to the espionage legislation the united states was his health condition otherwise he would be extradited so it's very very worrying dots. that joshua basically creamy now lies journalistic t.v. it is. only in the last over $350.00 save the american prison system it's so pretty so fresh picture you would be at risk of suicide if i sent it to the america america thought not going to she said there's no public interest there's no it there's no defense for journalists to come before you like probably journalists or you. he likes to do what most journalists do macall mr wilson there's no public interest but these are these with very very remarkable that this is not just about him personally it's about journalism it's about freedom it's

about freedom of speech it's about freedom of the press and all those things are being undermined both in this country and by the action of the people of the united states to trying to get him to be extradited to the pushing this action here and the socially the judge agreed with the u.s. government on everything. which leaves a horrible precedent for future journalists activists whistleblowers even happier as president these insets ease catastrophic that essentially outlaws not only whistle blowing but encouraging whistleblowers to do what they think is right what we're left with these as you have new ways to target and punish those with a functioning moral compass right guess the if will u.s. prosecutors have already said they will appeal the court's decision not to extradite assange 2 weeks to do that earlier i spoke to roger waters

a founding member of the rock band pink floyd a long telling backer of julian assange he warned there is more at stake than one man's liberty we his supporters have to be saying you have to bail him out he has he's suffered. way beyond any suffering that should have been bt doubts him for his warnings mobo infringement which he sees only crime under u.k. till a case of by him now that the man begin to live this is a battle not just for the life of a one great truly great journalist julian and sometimes it's a battle to the survival of the human brain if we give the full 3 states if we allow. the united states government to crucify a journalist on the grounds that he revealed war crimes by them.

then we give up our access to the real world and we say ok we didn't believe you a list and if somebody comes along and says actually you know what that's not true this government murder journalists by machine gunning them from a helicopter in baghdad in 2007 and we know they did and here is the proof and we're going to publish it and then and and then we will say you can't do that because if you do we're going to kill you is that the well we want to live in. well in the united states the committee to protect journalists welcome the british courts the signal to block his extradition the n.g.o.s urging the u.s. department of justice to drop all charges against them. we heartened that a british court has denied the united states' request to extradite julian assange launch the us government's decision to charge the wiki leaks founder said

a home full legal precedent for the persecution of journalists around the world simply for interacting with their sources we asked the u.s. department of justice to refrain from further pursuing extradition through appeals and to drop all charges against a stone age or about play appears to fallen on deaf ears with america as we've been going through stating it intends to appeal the u.k. court's decision articulable up and takes a closer look at washington's war against the whistleblower. so a huge win for julian assad but the usa is still not ready to back down while we are extremely disappointed in the colts ultimate decision we were gratified that the united states prevailed on every points of law raised in particular the culture jets and all of mr songs as arguments regarding political motivation political offense fair trial and freedom of speech we will continue to seek mr saunders extradition to the united states washington quickly announced it intends to appeal

and continue pursuing the extradition and julian aside this makes sense as politicians from both sides of the united states political spectrum have placed a target on his back or to argue that it is closer to the high tech terrorists it is an attack on the international community but i'm not for the death penalty so if i'm not for the death penalty i want to do it illegally shoot the son of a son should be assassinated actually they're tough and say if we catch you we're going to hang you whatever when the world's top military power is out for your blood you don't really stand much of a chance they're ready to throw the book at him he's facing 18 different charges 17 for as and one for attempted hacking of a u.s. government computer if convicted he could face up to 175 years in u.s. prisons the law being invoked is an obscure piece of legislation known as the espionage act from 1917 it was originally used against peace activists during the 1st world war now the parts of the law that suppressed free speech had been cut

down by the courts but now it's being used against whistleblowers human rights activists call it a tool of intimidation the espionage act must be reformed it lacks the public interest to fund it any publisher any journalist any source finds himself subject to similar proceeding they cannot adequately defend themselves today's decision does not inspire confidence that the us government or the another state might not the time to pursue somebody else in the same way so that seriously needs to be addressed and we will continue to advocate for broader rick. to strengthen protections for journalists for sources for whistleblowers because at present they were anybody trying to publish similar information to what they could find themselves in very hot water that the case is far from over u.s. officials are very unlikely to forget all the damaging information that found its way into the public eye thanks to julian assange and wiki leaks.

so the next chapter in the sun is a decision on his bill that will be made on wednesday and of course r.t. will be heard to bring you all the developments as they happen.

under 2 hours to go an hour until the voting in the u.s. states of georgia it's a race with must have ramifications as people in the state are essentially deciding on whether democrats or republicans take control of the american sell it for the next 2 years president trump and president elect biden both say they're confident their respective parties will claim victory. politicians care not assert take or see our powers given granted by your barrack your people alone and we could never give that up if the liberal democrats take the senate or the white house and then not take this white house we're going to fight like hell i'll tell you. the 2nd run vote in georgia is being held out her last november so no clear winners for the states 2 senate seats democrats now have to win both seats in the runoff to take control of the chamber while republicans need only walton seat to retain their

advantage the results of the race though could take days to count well let's dig deeper into this welcome in a number of guests on to the program we've got executive director of on hyphenated america dot org christopher horace legal media analyst little political activists on funny rogers writes gentlemen you're all welcome and christopher can we kick off with you just brick done for us how important this one vote is today a lot resting on voters of one state normally people don't know whether their senators will control the balance of power in congress when taking to the polls this is the exact opposite. this is truly the balance of power and. you know if we're not going to win the white house now there's a lot of. we're going to hold way to if we don't hold weight we absolutely need to have control in the senate. whoever takes it it's going to be

by a razor thin majority if the republicans lose will they have the numbers the unity in fact to block legislation or does it all boiled down and to one person anyway the majority leader who decides what gets voted on and what doesn't and sunny. you have this is a very very good question and to the point that the gentleman just made regarding what happens in georgia over the next few days we are potentially looking at and interregnum where we're not going to see much legislation get passed you know through either chamber i think what's also really important is to note as you stated that there is a massive split in the republican party right now you have 12 g.o.p. senators for instance who are still trying to contest the election of president elect joe biden against the wishes of their own majority leader mitch mcconnell but bottom line unless we see some things like the bus or reform which the minority leader chuck schumer has indicated he may or may not get into i think the point

stands that we're going to have a divided government and a very inert government for the next 2 years at least lionel joe biden has tweeted out this vote will determine the future of the country and the future could be pretty unclear if the republicans money to keep majority at least in terms of bills getting passed except for. joe biden tweeted that the. if i could could i please give you the dystopian horror version of what some republicans are saying to put it into context for our international audience they believe that should the senate go democratic what you would see is hang on the district of columbia d.c. has a state puerto rico as a state with permanent democratic senators plus the remove all of the filibuster rule which is basically what allow democrats to write any legislation do whatever

they want to but also see the impact the supreme court and horror after horror of 2 including a socialist a o c type of what it is that people are are hearing and i think it's a good a big exaggerated just a tad i guess a lot of truth to that so it seems right now that i don't believe both democrats would when but surely one could absolutely especially with the way we vote in this country which which is why are some of the smoke signals. well just to touch on what he was just saying is that even if only half of the worst case scenario happens if it is even a fraction of the still be a nightmare that a lot of republicans tend to believe what happened that's still really bad i mean it is still the ship is still going to sink because we already know democrats actually don't like the constitution they believe it's a living document but it is not if it's a living document then that means it has no real bearing it means it can be what

ever you choose for it to believe it's the into the republic so those of us who know every time i hear somebody say oh it is about democracy you know the united states is not a democracy it's a constitutional republic that's what we're all hoping in fighting to protect it's the constitutional republic and you know there is also there's a civil war happening within the republican party but what the mainstream media doesn't talk about is a civil war that's taking place within the democratic party also the a.b.c.'s who've already made it clear that they're not on board with the nancy pelosi unfunny you're shaking your head so refute that represented because you're cortez did vote for the speaker of the house nancy pelosi now this idea of socialism is so feckless and it's become a tired. republican and right wing talking point the fact of the matter is there's only one identified democratic socialist in the senate bernie sanders who's actually an independent 1st of all secondly i find it really funny and the fatling

that anyone on the right would want to talk about abuse of the constitution after the 4 years that we've seen under this president and including 12 senators right now who are committing what is nothing short of sedation right now because we need it to read that's the most curious thing to say they consider look at what democrats have done every press election day refuted the electoral college of 2016 so how does this point out how does this even. thing that there are not ordinary democratic senator or one democratic member of the. how's that try to stop the certification of donald trump as president of the united states much to their dismay much to their dismay the same thing occurred in 2000 when we know for a fact that the g.o.p. is racism and white supremacy to deny that people to vote for it out and that led to the electorate and urges the deliciousness will not and yet there we don't know if that's the actual vision that's what everybody says when he try to get black folks all rolled up music oh you know it's like i'm sure that you have questions

about i think it's a blue glow in the bone will try to see racism. it's a report that are just hard to come up and are and 50 for president 50 percent more of the blackboard turned out that he did before he got 20 percent of the black male vote because more black males more real black men masculine black males who are we can go up and say no we're not down with this we actually are going to vote with our pocketbooks because we saw there was actually improvement for us there was more ok on the opportunity and they got tired of hearing the reason somebody men they wanted to be able to lift themselves up by their own bootstraps and guess who gave them that opportunity it was president trying to do it ok and i like that you know i let a little come in there are just just a moment done for me lionel just to pick up on a point about anthony meter earlier as well with your response there does appear to be the deep divide right now within the republican party how do not members balance trump loyalty with party unity. first of all to quote the great philosopher rodney

king can't we all just get along listen what you're seeing right now are 2 gentleman making great points here is the deal take your side whatever you want your reality will be just fine based upon your frame of reference but do not try to balance the 2 it won't work now is disunity everywhere there is we have a nose republican in name only we have people republicans who ate that will drop who never wanted them there you have democrats right now who are as our colleague said is absolutely correct is that this new kind of a squad. all morning type of democrats is it a more heritage democrat what i'm saying is after to morrow and the bottom line is simply this from when everybody to know this would you like it or not joe biden is the next president of the united states what like it or not and what we're seeing right now is good robust debate with

a fascinating president who. basically thinks that mr pence our vice president can stop everything and i want to disabuse them of that but the bottom line is simply this after tomorrow it's going to be so boring in this country do is going to be nothing to talk about 4 years of joe biden oh my god oh well because what's going to happen for the next 4 years in the ok who's going to get. one second one cent think chris or i want to put a point to one thing about what's happening right now in georgia the money being spent on this particular race is astonishing almost half a $1000000000.00 in one state that's more than most average presidential campaigns is not the clearest sign yet that cash is king when it comes to american election. oh absolutely you know we heard that ever since the supreme court made a very fact list and a bad you destroy decision with citizens united this idea that money is speech we

have seen that in fact the state of our politics and the state of our elections $500000000.00 for 2 seats and that doesn't include the money that perdue and leveler of spent on on themselves with their own fortunes that they made by the way off of the code in 1000 so this is a massive problem i think that where you look at other nations that are developed whether it's the u.k. whether it's countless countries that make up the e.u. elections definitely need to be funded only by federal taxes and that's it and candidates need to get them out of money and that's it because otherwise what we see is i mean this is goes back to the so-called founders i mean they even give an admonishment about this about this country becoming aristocracy because of money interests even a republican name eisenhower warned of the military industrial complex and one of his last speech is this president of united states because he saw the corrupting

influence of money and politics $500000000.00 right now we have a glow get endemic this country when he is that's an above then is what about the education of those without really want to lecture one about not to get health care ok i want to figure a national interest of re-elect president here 1st christmas break there's a there's a lot of topics just to touch upon can you answer one issue that we've been speaking about here donald trump has repeatedly promoted the so-called stop the steel rally taking place in washington d.c. what do you think that march is going to achieve at this stage in the game. i don't think it's going to achieve a whole lot from the let total standpoint but it is a sign that there are people who are not going to go away i don't know there's a lot of people who think that oh ok if republicans lose the president lose it there's going to wait no it's not going to go away because there's a lot of really mant people and what's taking place and just to answer the question from before wanted to address them before you know it's not money and politics is the biggest issue one of the biggest issues that we never should have a direct election of u.s. senators they call that democracy but that was one of the problems when we had the

progressive era when and i call it the progress of the air or when they decided to allow for the direct election approach of u.s. senators that's why it's easy to buy a u.s. senate seat that senators should be appointed by their state legislature that's one of the things that would help reduce this debacle or eliminate this debacle that we're dealing with right now and as far as the the money interests and the the military industrial complex let's talk about the educational national complex let's talk about the media industrial complex so even if you just have the funds coming from the state what happens when you have the media being on the societal particular party and a particular teddy that's who we're dealing with you want to talk about what's going to be boring for the next several years if joe biden is inaugurated which is what's looking likely what's going to happen is for the next 4 years he's going to get a soft shoe interview they're going to congratulate him on tying his shoes they're going to say oh my god your shoes are tied mr by and you do such a great job tying your shoes your hair is straight because you're such

a great president mr biden that's what's going to happen for the next 4 years because the media has chosen their candidate lionel what does that all hold up once a litle what does this all mean for the republican brand post trouble will it have to re brown trump certainly had a following among the working class we know that a recent nationwide survey suggested over 70 percent of republican voters want their legislators to be more like trial than average member. absolutely and that there will be. good. because there will never be a republican party like president trump's party or president trump but i've got to see 2 things which are very very important when people talk about getting rid of money this is one of the funniest things ever citizens united as our colleague said here you know what happened i think most of us would say let's sign let's agree to get rid of the as you said twice the feckless citizens united but let's also remove the incredible stranglehold that big kak and facebook and google and twitter have

on everything and by the way one more thing which is a poured whether you want to realize this or not and i don't know whether this actually meant that so many votes were stolen that the president really should have won but the amount of fraud that we saw how much of it in terms of the big picture is up for debate but it was breathtaking and what american citizens are going to do tomorrow is to say i have a voice i think my vote was stolen right or wrong and i'm going to speak up but if you go and just look at what was done and blatantly over the absolute abject theft now again whether that invalidates the entire election apparently not but it was one for the ages i mean absolutely this is chicago politics on steroids ok we really literally get with larry you got a minute left just for your final thoughts. unfunny just offer 20 seconds left for

you and then chris through we wrap up with here. yet we keep hearing about these issues of fraud we have seen no proof yet it's been thrown out even by supreme court that was picked by this president you simply cannot sell this story anymore as a matter of fact the only one of the only instances a fraud was found to be a trump supporter who was also trying to build for his dead mother so that's why but what i would say is that the republican party has become the vanguard for whiteness and white supremacy that cannot be hidden anymore and if it doesn't do any brand it mentioned this idea of civil war yet we are headed to that unfortunately i do agree it's time to get back to a politics that is not so divided that is full of acquiescing good but now it's we know we can have unity with you haven't read you have a beer no unity with you because you don't believe in liberty you don't believe in an eagle right and never had unity area if you christopher the president of the united states are you going because he doesn't believe in the constitution doesn't

believe in the right and that's what there is all these people who signed up $75.00 plus 1000000 people voted for the present united states who want to protect our liberty and the republican party needs to be careful because they're going to go the way of the weak party because the weak party was feckless the we party was spying on us and the g.o.p. is becoming feckless and spineless and if they don't get a spine soon they're going to go away and the reason why we haven't seen any proof is because they're not allowing it to come from there's all these affidavits from people who said hey i saw this i'll sign my name to it under penalty of law they just said ok we really have 10 there are right of time gentlemen thank you so much for a spirited debate enjoyed very much executive director of on hyphenated america christopher horace legal and media of course political activist and tony rogers right thank you all thank so much thank you thank you another is where we leave it this is our attention i see issue more paper.