oh. this is a repatriation scheme would address the 7 you. know of the 7 you guys report. to the dismay of his supporters wiki leaks co-founder. denied bail and would remain in custody pending washington's appeal on his extradition u.k. court had turned down the u.s. request on monday over concerns of the sonship would commit suicide. legal c. hasn't given up saying they are going to appeal wednesday's decision. most likely would leave your field behind. within hours few days. we. will expect to be all over to. and counting is on the way in the u.s. state of georgia for the 2 remaining american senate seats there's all to play for

with control of the chamber still in reach should be the past i guess discuss the possibility. we're going to have a divided government and a very government should still be waiting to see. boring in this country. although the good evening just gone 6 o'clock here in the russian capital watching on some international that wiki leaks founder julian assange has been denied bail by a london court it does follow a decision to block his extradition to the united states over concerns that he posed a suicide risk. has the data. so the united kingdom earlier today had denied putin. they all of course that comes just 2 days after they ruled not to actually get your response to the united states has been 'd lonely lonely go back

to haunt you in the south because the united states and want to think that it's a lead role in what they call one of the largest compromises of profit by the nation the history of the united states now doing this on just the revenue did he said that they will be up. feeling this latest decision they say it's a great disappointment not to release him on bail they say it's unjust and unfair also we've heard from craig murry one of his key supporters a former u.k. ambassador has called it incredibly vindex is i think this is indicative i mean the prosecution in. opposing. a great deal of play a fight with snowden on the part that it's pretty clear justice. they hate if you play for them the damage to american national security the drug industry and the educated gun. feel that this is plainly the security state looking to show its profits approve the street this is this is indicative it's not based on anything

that's bullshit is on his defense team found this a very bitter pill to swallow especially considering that money went to the city just a few days ago not that you got us on to the united states but then everything was based close in that sense because that for them particularly he now is already served his sentence was getting power back in 2012 but he's still in belmarsh prison but what is his prime they argue in terms of being in the court itself they search and they really try to justify if you in the song just actually say that he would not be up on income any health conditions however tight they could have been he would have a party prize and purity for them on the basis of his news from a crisis right here in the united kingdom we know he has 2 very young children with his partner stella morris she earlier before you for the court proceedings 2 days ago she said that it was something to celebrate that money was his decision 2 days ago or she would only celebrate when you walk through the door back into the family hard so for them it's

a really pretty disappointing blow today i reckon vincent from reporters without borders says she too is very disappointed as many other journalists are this very judge on monday outlines this response as serious health risk. mental health stress these are issues that will be exacerbated by a period of prolonged detention so he sees or grounds prevent his extradition which we agree that they are there also grounds for his immediate release from prison she stated that he had consented to have stunned and that is for the some bail that he would be unlikely to present himself for justice she also stated that his mental health has been manageable marshman and that the prison has a cozy 1000 situation under control but that does not seem to be the case we've had alarming reports of the situation in the prison not have him nearly continuously in his cell for several weeks now. and the evidence we've heard in september about his state of mental health these are all issues that are made worse by detention so of course he should be released also the matter of principle is still here and for us

we've called for some time for his son conditional release so not just because of these 2 monitoring concerns but as a matter of principle he has been detained only for publishing information in the public interest nobody should have to face what he has an offense on yourself enough is enough this could have made this right going forward and they failed to do so today in terms of journalism worldwide then you have to remember that the judge 2 days ago did not bear out the case based on journalistic grounds or political grounds but only his medical health and medical health alone in fact she accepted every single argument that the us throughout the course saying that judas was case was not politically motivated that he would face a fair trial in the united states of the us is constitutional law and she said that his actions were not in public interest so many people would argue that this confirms the narrative of criminalizing investigative journalism would be in pockets shoot each. and every journalism around the world. because now there's

a person. in debate the judicial system. a judge pass indorse. pass basically supported by. political arguments paul persecuting julian assange so is it is this is a very thorough political case if they're going to try to apply and. this is a political case there 5 julian assange is in prison without serving a sentence shows that he is a political prisoner so. we might save julian then he might not spend the rest of his life in prison but the risk. for journalists around the world is they're still there because. if somebody else in the future dares to do what julian did what wiki leaks did to publish the

same things or similar things they will be persecuted and they can be criminalized for life so today has been a very traumatic day indeed in fact the last few days have been very traumatic for us the on monday's decision without that not executing a son and then to say no to him fairly is incredibly fesses 3 thing we've seen activists and supporters not just said today all 2 days ago but long throughout judas on this ordeal they have been here day in day out at 1st but then you know a song is a violent campaign a for truth and justice he has not committed a crime but all he has done is published and shown the world the truth in their opinion of the united states and their criminal activities in iraq and afghanistan in fact today they were so determined and eager and enthusiastic to be here for this court case that so many people have even been arrested by police for being outside the westminister magistrate's court i myself witnessed around 5 people being arrested including

a 92 year old man and it really just goes to show the levels of determination because they feel it's not just here in the service in the stop this happening through the criminal justice system and trying to avoid the criminal justice system in the united states. but also sits in the box is the fundamental principles of freedom of france the right to pressure the south the right to report but also the right for the public to access information and terrorism of course it is a 10 year back so how does having a chilling effect on journalism not just here in the u.k. nor the united states but worldwide will shortly after today's decision the current head of wiki leaks kristinn hrafnsson as well as the songes partner stella morris appealed to america's leadership to pardon him you still want. the president you know to see. all the one. she leaving office and the one coming in to consider pardons. we want this to end. this is it to.

you in should not be in front of this in the 1st place. the heart of justice dropped the charges. the president of the. party. well genius and he's wanted by u.s. authorities for leaking thousands of classified documents if extradited stateside he could face up to 175 years behind bars are you trying to talk me through the case. well release on bail hor no release on bail the assumption is that the us government will do what it has been doing for quite a while fight to the very end to achieve their ultimate goal and that is the extradition of julian assange under the espionage act which has already proved as a nightmare for quite a few journalists so it looks like now for the u.s. authorities the legal option is to appeal and that's what they're going to do and

that's going to be an appeal to the decision that came on monday not to extradite julian to the u.s. this was the immediate reaction from the u.s. department of justice while we are extremely disappointed in the court's ultimate decision we are gratified that the united states prevailed on every points of law raised in particular the courts which it's all of mr sanders arguments regarding political motivation political offenses fair trial and freedom of speech we will continue to seek mr saunders extradition to the united states for those that have not extensively followed to the fate of joining us songe you can take any chapter of it for instance 7 years of self confinement at the door an embassy and credible for these people the number one question would perhaps be what has mr assad's done that really caused that much of a stir why does the u.s. political elite hate him so much why are the infuriated why did some people say it

was time to shoot and kill the son of a and you know the words that fall then well it is that damage that he has done to the image of the u.s. as a country as a nation as a state and there you have it getting access and then publishing all these documents classified documents and materials that point to some terrible things that some would consider war crimes this is something that earns you a reputation of a fearless journalist with some. but makes you an enemy of the state with others so here's a summary you put together for you of the skeletons of the closet that julian assad revealed.

how much. you're going to. cut does he say any the millions of those who are less. wiki leaks walks like a hostile intelligence service and talks like a hostile takeover of service. so what's with the biggest decision makers in america the presidents that have the right to pardon mr assad under barack obama it became abundantly clear what the administration's line is when it comes to the war but under donald trump there was

hope that there could be some kind of u. turn because we know the reputation of mr trump of basically doing everything which is totally opposite to what barack obama was up to but the rhetoric didn't change much there were no decisions that were announced that run ran counter to what we previously saw and even this free of pardoning from has been up to lately during assad wasn't on the list now we feel look at joe biden the president elect we can remember how in 2010 he called you in the saga high-tech terrorists so in this regard it looks like things won't change in any case and like we heard from department of justice they will be appealing they still want that extradition and if it happens we know that julian could be facing almost 2 centuries in prison

. ok let's talk about the case a bit further now with chris williamson he's a former u.k. and pain supporter of the campaign to free a standard we appreciate your time thanks for coming on chris firstly let's let's start with today then some people have described today's decision to deny bail as vindictive and unnecessary how would you describe it well i certainly agree with that i heard. remarks saying that he was a vindictive decision but it's clearly a travesty of justice i mean we have a judge here who has already ruled that julius orange should not be extradited to the united states of america and yet she's only now that he can not be released i mean this is judicial system in traditional cute think it's time now. all the palm unserious who've been silent to actually start to speak out a few of them have come out of the woodwork now much welcome but more than need to do so because you know our justice system is on the line here and there is indeed

freedom of speech and the rights of a full press i mean this really goes to the very heart of democracy and you know in my opinion. it should never be imprisoned 1st place but he must be released now and i certainly hope the pill to his sports and is now taken to the high court will be successful in that he is released on bail why do you think that more and pays politicians haven't come out in support of the signs before this that well obviously there's been real smear campaign that has been waged against him by the united states by the deep state in this country the military industrial complex are many many vested interests that remember who do not want to see the likes of julian songs being able to bring the dirty secrets to the attention of the of the public and they're determined to try and silence him and silence anybody else who might dare to follow in his footsteps and regrettably many of the fall of interrogations

of the call that a mouthpiece for vested interests always i think coffee if all because of the smears that were leveled against union of in some way being get tarred by the same brush but we know that the estimate is how it's very very sad that the current leader of the labor party was implicated in the attempt to extradite him to the sweden on bogus 'd allegations that were made against him of sexual assault. but they're all the parliamentarians you know on both sides of the chamber i think you are sympathetic to julian's of plight was supportive of free speech and supportive of the free press i feel really uncomfortable. to speak out what are they there for there to speak up for the people who elected them and you know if they don't do that then they are absolutely the fallen down on the job already that they are really abdicated their responsibility in my opinion now if they do not

speak out at this latest travesty then we seem to have been subjected to it is the fear. that the authorities have already won if the deep state as you'd like to call it have already won because if you listen to the united states on monday the extradition is only a bank or blocking extradition is only a back concerns over to reassign his health the fact of the matter is the judge ruled that no sorry there's no there's no defense you can't say it's in the public interest to disclose classified information well no it didn't but it is a real concern and whilst it's welcome that she wrote very soon julian should be released on health grounds the fact that she dismissed the public interest and over points that were made very very valid points i think very very powerful points in the public interest and political. points that were made in the representations where or dismiss them in this is absurd i mean she made assertions that julia not.

been party to criminal activities there were no scruples when the. m.p.'s expenses scandal came to light as a result of information that had been stolen let's remember but there was a clear public interest there has to be a public interest surely to go in the information that julian assange was put in the public domain because he was highlighting exposing more crimes he was exposing the abuse of power in other respects exposing the abuse of corporate power it is little wonder that for the deep state these powerful vested interests are doing everything in their power now to actually you know silence him to keep him imprisoned to send this signal. to anyone else's i've already said to my dad to follow in his footsteps so you know i mean that judgment was an appalling judgment the only the only sort of silver lining was that you're all that julian should be

released on health grounds machine ruling that you should be released on health grounds. not subject to extradition then why on earth ruled today that he should remain in concentrated i mean this is outrageous i mean as we know the un special rapporteur on torture has said that julian is be as subjected to psychological torture and he also pointed out that it was the nazis who refined psychological torture and the reason they developed psychological tool jews because even worse when the physical torture that they were subjected to their prisoners to during the 2nd world war and to think that. britain that this is being done to a political prisoner the shame is all of that change britain is surely certainly should show you those parliamentarians are being elected to represent just to stand up for the british to stand up for a british democracy to stand up for freedom of speech and they're not doing it they're falling down on the job and i really do implore them now at this 11th hour

to please stand up for what you have been elected to do to speak up for justice to speak up for democracy to speak up for freedom of speech that's what you've been elected for and thus you should be doing chris good to talk to you tonight we're going to have to leave it that was chris williamson former u.k. and pain thanks for coming up. on other news germany has toughened its anti pandemic rules and extended its lock down the country has now surpassed $35000.00 related deaths peter all of a looks at hibernian is trying to slow the pace of the pandemic. following a meeting between angle of merkel the german chancellor and the leaders of germany's 16 states locked down in the country will be extended until the 31st of january what that means is that all bars and restaurants ghouls gyms mound non-essential retail will be closed there are some new measures being put in place

as well you'll now only be able to meet with one or the person from outside of a household other than your own aand in areas where infections are above $200.00 per 100000 of the population there will be a limit on where you can travel it has to be within a 15 kilometer radius of your home in announcing these measures. said that they would necessary. we're now they're a close to full capacity in some hospitals which is also one of the reasons for us to introduce these far reaching madness today epidemiologists had hoped that you would go further and extend this lockdown beyond the end of january no such look there for them there's also well some pushback already from some of those who agreed to this deal on tuesday we've heard from leaders in the state of lower saxony saying they've got no intention of limiting the movement of citizens in

their state vote in both of said that they're reviewing the situation and whether they would be keen to do the same in their state and also we've heard from the state of mecklenburg western pomerania he said they want to get this schools open now it's not just the state leaders that have been unhappy with lockdowns we have seen demonstrations here in germany against the measures that have been put in place just last weekend in nuremberg the riot police had to be called. well german chancellor angela merkel also defended the vaccination program in germany which had come in for criticism for moving at

a pretty much gleg seal pace she said that the right things were being done to ensure that germans got the vaccinations that they needed earlier we heard from again spawn the german health minister said. all people in germany who wanted a vaccination should be able to receive one by the summer of this year well the new measures that were brought in on tuesday they're going to be reviewed again on the 25th of january well be decided if they need to be extended through into february. french court has ruled that the police can record detailed person information relating to activists and protesters in the name of state security trade unions they do say that noting down political and religious beliefs and social media activity in danger is basic freedoms with more his shot at bin ski from powers.

france's highest administrative court has found itself in the midst of a toxic debate the council of state has approved plans by the government to broaden the information that can be collected about individuals for intelligence files this includes political or religious convictions and if someone is a member of a union these decrees also authorize the recording of a person's activity on social networks or even health data revealing a particular danger leading to an infringement of the right to demonstrate to stigmatize asian the freedom of opinion union action the fact of being a member of the union which suggests that being a member of a trade union could be associated in one way or another with the imperatives of internal security state security the fight against terrorism so what are these intelligence files and what exactly are they used for the decrees relate to 3 files these used to be limited to being about hooligans or violent demonstrators now they

are being expanded to the list of data of people suspected of terrorist activities all those likely to undermine the integrity of france and its institutions files like this can help security services to keep an eye on individuals who are seen to pose a threat. to sunny's lomis terrorist attacks were formed in 202033 since 2017 but some augie that concept behind these decrees is vague at best you do them and yeah it was commissioned in fact the authorities can collect data on a lifestyle and vague definition from the outset creates the strengths of the habitrail arenas each of us can become a subject of data collection if our behavior is considered a likely threat to public safety. the green light for these decrees also comes at a particularly sensitive time here in france at the end of 2020 there were mass

demonstrations against 2 controversial draft laws ne by the government why. was. i. mean while some police unions have been are the global security not going far enough they say officers faced a threats just for doing that job and being targeted just for this week and you officers were beaten up in the paris suburbs i stopped by gary during a routine traffic stop but critics say these rules these decrees show would all thora tarion drift in france this argument is waved like

a red rag but it is not the subject terrorism is one of the goals but the main think is the fight against hooligans sects the underground economy and protests deeds violent terrorism is used to carry out political surveillance it is our trade union activity our reason for being which is targeted these decrees maintain the confusion between an act. a member even an employee who signs a petition and as a legal person the c g t can be called into question it is a risk for social democracy it's not the 1st time france has tried this in chief $1008.00 it launched the ed page database which provoked outrage as it aimed to collect data around similar themes political and religious affiliation it was eventually drop but given this a recent push by the french government to move towards tighter security measures despite the mass demonstrations and the approval that's come from the council of

state many of concern that france has crossed a red line and it may nought retreat challenge even off to paris. and it's just past 6 in the evening here in moscow thanks for company tonight we're back again with the headlines and more stories about how often. you get.

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