tv Cross Talk RT January 11, 2021 12:30am-1:01am EST
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this wednesday on the council which was deplorable tragic and a unforced error the way i look at it. the media is playing the blame game i'm not interested in that i'm interested in the effects here the most immediate effect has been big tech is they get a major move to us stifle. alternative narratives people that are questioning and people obviously expressing their anger. this is in my mind george and i'm going to say it straight because you know me and that's the way i am this is that at least at the very least they buy a prius authoritarian pre totalitarian moves to control discourse go ahead george i agree with you totally. because if you think about what really caused what happened on wednesday then he goes back to the fact that people were on the able to have redress for their grievances. the true cost the
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true culprit i believe was the u.s. supreme court which had a chance to weigh in on this. ruling should we say election. they punted refused to get involved and that means that millions upon millions of americans felt that they had no redress their grievances well not address and that is what happens when people feel deeply discontented i mean and this goes on top of all of the other oppressions of everything that had taken place over the last 12 months so now what is he what is the remedy for this well i'm all regression more rigid refusal to give the will a voice to give them a way to express their feelings and member of the biden administration is now saying that it's 1st order of business. will be domestic terrorism bill there's no
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reason whatsoever for it because the criminal statutes are already chock a block with all manner of criminal. wrongdoing legislation so you would hate crimes and everything else so now they can put domestic terrorism going to start with the lists that are actually just everybody's will be terrified at all who they associate with what they write what websites they visit what they say to their friends on whatsapp or facebook or whatever or even on the telephone so it really is just the way of imposing an absolutely you know repressive dictatorship over the population you know you know demon this is what this does is it what george has described is that they were the people that feel that they they are their voices are not being heard you know either through
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social media or through. elections is that their grievances have been widget amounts by this behavior by the incoming administration and the people are in that orbit and being thank you and oh by the way to this is a longstanding american foreign policy is that when their guy doesn't go to our party doesn't do well in a war an election they say go out in protest ok in just the new united states right now hamas receives things might have done had been well you're absolutely right that you know when people were so surprised for example in the beginning of the syrian war how come so many who would be unwholesome scheme to help the terrorists in syria well didn't you tell these european mausam so via your media that also tool skinny and more stems you know also these repressive she's against boston so a lot of people just volunteered to coach syria the same. i think here for many
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years with her i mean americans heard from the mainstream media in the united states that you need to stop this team will win elections in yugoslavia in 2000 won in georgia in 2003 in ukraine in 2004 and it is a current. you're a member of these words you know they stole the election and every time almost every time these protests ended with a capacious of parliament that's what happened in ukraine in 2014 and that's what happened in modo up in 2000 lines that's what happened in yugoslavia in 2000 fun that's what happened to shevardnadze in georgia in 2003 and now when and mary can strive to do the same thing suddenly they are i called joe biden domestic terrorists white supremacist anti-semite i didn't see a single anti-semitic saugor you know there are many bad things that don't don't interpret me ask condoning what happened on capitol hill and those people were not
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that enticed him i'm glad you mentioned that neither of us none of us in joel what happened done deal not at all is a matter back george i want to see those people held accountable and i want to see all the people in the black lives matters and the and t. the riots of the months and months before that be held accountable got to be how to have a single standard that my behavior is not acceptable george exactly right unfortunately that's not the way the american legal judicial system functions we've seen what happened to the people involved in the black lives matter in the n.t. for riot it was a river the revolving door treatment. no one was really held accountable it's much the same way as all of the pathological attacks on trump for disputing the election now this is destabilizing and horrific insane claims and yet every. 2 2 2 sin. but the for the claims of. the woman the abrams woman in
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georgia who still to this day claims that she is the 6 governor of georgia and everyone is happy to indulge her and say yes this is the person who is the real governor of georgia even though she lost by 50000 votes which incidentally is a great a margin that actually trumps the margin of defeat in the election because if you just count the margin in arizona georgia and wisconsin which butts the 2 by trump equal it's actually comes to less than 50000 so it's exactly the same but nonetheless that's the the way it works and of course these people who are in capitol hill and you know they the book will be thrown at that and then are going to get the revolving door treatment i mean you can think that these people are going to get 1020 years. yet there is no knowing what the equality at
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all in this bill is abramson want why don't they are very special relations and you know i will say. you know. my point it's always important to have you on this program because you were born. well and you ringback bought me so much about it well during the time of our friendship i mean it must be interesting for humans as a russian looking at how dissent is being crushed in the united states when when the new russia. a flourishing with its 3 speeches in an. only contentious. arguments over politics the internet is very very rich and deep in discussion here and you see the closing of it in the united states and you have a major political party a party that's going to be controlling all the. parts of government in the end about 10 days not cheering in on what do you think well i think there are 2 important things. thank you for reminding me of the soviet union you know i know
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their constant features also your clive was there just sent us where named and shamed you know that on of the main pressure tactics against the soria dissidents also there how can you say these how could you be so despite destabilize and how can you be if not part of us and in the same way we have these shaman in them every can media right now i mean we all know where we all follow it became almost indecent to support trump before the election in 2016 and that's why so many so so a tickle services will control it because people are indeed ashamed to see on the phone on 3 in their questions yes i may vote for trump rate the same the story is is continuing now in the united states and the and the what is interesting the other important thing in the you know our i took a parallel from rod dreher right on the them eric and conservative that's
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a conservative website in the united states and he tired over his article about what happened on capitol hill the left or right stark fire we all i think know what happened in the rice stock in march 1033 it's still not known was it indeed the dutch communist who did it you know did he have any support as he too acclaimed from the jewish conspiracy just as he put all of them or was it the not just themselves the most likely it was the nazis themselves who staged this fire in order to crush dissent but in the same way it's still not clear what crap and all that kept though here was a just you know that dennis figures who are so empty of and criminal i would say was it the police that somehow sympathized with them or just let them do it because it could be used against them in the future it doesn't matter just like with the reichstag fire the consequences are so. raif there had we don't need to talk about
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the origins but let me quote roadtrip the result the whole of this i expect corporate america who is by left wing activists to undertake a purge of any employees who publicly expressed sympathy with drum or with the election protest be it on their private social media channels or a new way so mainstream media we can hope for a long time because been shut off when the dissent is basically for the real dissent just now the social media are also being shut off and what is very bad about mr trump been shut off again don't take their on i think he was destructive and he was bad but you know again parallel with russian history when nicholas the 2nd was modems the important thing was not you know but don't say that he was a once per person and he did a lot of bad things that threatened russia to his situation but if you can kill that sob then you can kill anyone in the same way if you can block the president of
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the united states from social media what about the every joe you know you can do anything to him because he doesn't have the protections of the federal state or even a formal kind of state only going to be. is essential to bringing up the buy more complex here in in about 30 seconds that united states right now. well the interesting thing is 2 2 what's now happening is a massive repression of the population it's a way of beating down any possible opposition you have by them is ration coming in a president nobody wanted a vice president nobody wanted and election result that is very dubious and you have an opposition that is just absolutely enraged and up enough so that's the only remedy the only remedy is to go in for massive repression and then in the bolsheviks eventually. an interesting. little.
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small seemed wrong. but i. just don't know all. the world that is yet to shape out these days to come to educate and gain from it because of the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart when you choose to look for common ground in the. i can't show you my face but i'm going to teach you my story in 9093 this was sentenced to death. they could charged with capital murder even though he didn't have the gun didn't pull the trigger didn't intend to kill anybody the magic living in your bathroom for the week with the scent of
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a 23. doubt that i've observed. but did abbey. have. confined within 4 gray walls. excusing. them to leave death row. back across top where all things were considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're talking about the condition of american democracy. ok let's go back to george in budapest one of the interesting phenomenon for me and looking over the last few years and look at talking about the consequences of what happened on capitol hill is that now not only the sleeve the media and focuses attention on donald trump fair enough he's
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a politician and that's what politicians and that's part of. being a politician anywhere in the western world but what's different here and i think. is the demonization of his supporters and his base here you know in the we didn't see this before and we have been seeing the same kind of way because as we are living in this age where you can you can literally turn millions of people off with the head of a click ok but that wasn't the case before here and so when i find really terrifying is that we have this and you're legitimizing the demonization of people that want to participate in public life. i mean that's not a civil society that's the end of civil society go ahead joe yes that that really goes to the heart of what's going on in america right now because that base. is enraged about everything that's been going on in america for the last $3040.00 maybe 50 years the fact that
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a tiny percentage of the population much less than one percent is there in communes growing exponentially while everyone his income is stagnate same the fact that most people are unable to get a good education and able to get into the elite colleges which which is the possible to great jobs in the united states they're unable to get a proper health care. and you know they just this watch seeing their jobs being shipped overseas or being given to going to constant cheap immigrants that are being allowed to go through and into the border illegally all of it all of these dissident voices found expression in donald trump that donald trump it was a very bad messenger. but in some ways benny millions of americans found in him somebody who understood them who spoke their language and now the most of the politicians in the united states in congress don't have that ability they just
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talk to themselves they just talk in these cliches and i think that's really what's going when you when you repress these people tell them they you know to shout out go to hell because the far right extremists racist anti semites or white nationalists or all the rest when you tell them that. you either create a situation where there is going to be another violent explosion somewhere at some point or you know you you do what as you know was suggesting it would you get the russian example which is you beat the population down into submission and people just give up you know they just mean. it is focus they're all attempts at resistance all attempts and remedies have failed you know there's nothing we can do we just simply have to accept things as they are and i think that's kind of how the bolsheviks the british rule for 70 years and people just gave up i mean there was a lot of resistance the bolshevik roulette with the civil war we had crunched all
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way up to the this isn't movement of the 96 in the seventy's but each time the bolsheviks just ruthlessly put down any dissent so maybe that's what's happening in the united states they want an end in the. the d.n.a. that americans like to think about themselves with it would be completely change it would be a very different political culture and maybe that's the direction it's going to be in but canceling 70 to 80000000 people. that's a social experiment in human engineering that i think anyone should be wary of here you know demo one of the things that you know i always look at the basic structures and you focus a lot on the ideology of things i mean the problem home are the homework of western . western political experience is the loyal opposition and the peaceful transfer of power and they're being eroded right now and they're being eroded very quickly
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in the united states your thoughts well i think the only qualm and that more is more or less so but on the day of the riot on capitol hill came from the wall street journal the most enjoy know how the mind it's going to win this way truong loses the senate and basically in the paper said that the end result of all of these is basically one part you who in the united states i mean after the volt in georgia which was of course influenced by the incident in washington even though the democrats took a many bought you know marginal majority and. in the last moment they got that majority in the senate know they control all of the institutions and look how mr biden is already indulging in fantasy as you know why it's a premisses was there a single racist slogan next to the capitol hill i mean no one can show a single young buck about biden is speaking by headlines of the new york times or
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the washington post which has been scary in the population by this right when while it's which does exist in the united states but there is also there are 2 environments just like in. germany you know the article in the national interest does this sort on the cat those you show americans don't and i still buy it jacob braun i think he brings up a very interesting analogy just as the leaders or bought apologists you know democrats and republicans how weaponized are not yet more against their rivals the democrats did by bailing out a foundation fine to end your stuff us with secret identity just and superhero style and anti far outfits i mean we have seen the so-called leftist taunter dobro violence this summer you know right now we have seen right some right violence and now we see basically a total seizure of power by one party so it's an american has been spotted the y m
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a stage and the right stark feisty if we believe the american press and go into the american newspapers and know when you're right to raise the question or punishment for jake and jelly and people like you well whenever you have this protect your whole demonstration and hero find them and there are always exhort you i mean i invited them many can still watch the video or rather didn't take and then 2014 by the ukrainian nationalists you will see that a lot of people who are more exotic then veg and much more dangerous. some of them are not says neither that estates aside and not the smallest the people and you know the name that they give to jake actually and i guess a conspiracy theory as you know in the new york times reports conspiracy theorist arrested and he may face up to 20 years in jail. and you know conspiracy conspiracy
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theories is almost the same as a conspiracy maker someone who is operating can conspiracy and against the state because you are in against the state or georgia mean it let's look at it from the conservatives populist side ok so that all of government is getting controlled by one party you have big tech going in i mean that parlor i mean i was about to get on harder and then it then you have you know you have the googles of the world the apples of the world. not allow people to access that their platform i mean number one this is so monopolistic i mean it's already monopolistic it and now they're just flaunting it ok obviously if you have you know a one party rule you have to be checking in service of it why wouldn't someone that is conservative think this is a conspiracy against us i mean you know everyone seems to beget the conspiracies do we do this ok and and if if you're people that you would in a buy with acted wrongly on the capital or prosecuted people that burned down the
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wendy's or not then you have people going to say yeah they're out to get us yes that is exactly what they say and and that's why it's so important to make sure that all avenues all their expressing their views. and that that's really the goal here. and they have the big internet giant who are flagrantly flagrantly violating not just the 7 section to 30 imune it is that we're granted them by government but they're always the gauging. and to competitive conduct they are all this the engaging in violations of the 1st amendment they are behaving. because they think they've got that that a government in power that won't do anything about them and they won't do anything about them because this is you know there's now
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a happy symbiosis between the democrats and 2 big tech and so yeah the people will feel well this is you know this is the system is stacked against us and there are very few ran it is because it goes out of the one remedy you have is well elections where you know we know we're going to vote these people out in 2 years and 4 years and then we're going to get our guys in prison now we've seen this election you can just rake it and then you know if the system remains on reform and the democrats will make sure that it will remain a revote in that mail in voting well now they be the norm in the united states if you ensure that it's all of this is rape and then if you do what i think biden the most recent will do which is grant a massive and estate to the 40 who knows how many illegals living in the united states then you can make sure that if that these people who are feel this going to happen will be in a permanent minority so they'll be told shut up and suck it up and i think that's
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that's what things are going in the united states yes interesting thing is that you know it will because demon brought up the georgiou election here and it and one of the reasons why the democrats won is that you know they they said we're going to give you $2000.00 ok and i think in washington in both parties including donald trump screwed up that issue about it was a no brainer george and i have talked about this in a number of times and it's really interesting dilemma is that you know shut up keep your head down keep your thoughts to yourself it because one way or another we're going to get in your head ok that's the goal but we'll give you $2000.00 we'll give you. and you'll be content again the soviet union comes to mind make sure you get some material things but don't have a thought for yourself i will tell you what the things i mean the parallels are growing it's getting absurdly obvious to me well you're right i think this situation is even more terrifying because it's really just
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a just the soviet union was almost benayoun and humane compared to what we see now happening in the united states i mean when i heard today you know when i when i read on the media how a dog that he bought at on her mother you know on errands that they went to this demonstration brought from demonstrations and the daughter reported to them to put it on to the police that's exactly what happened in the soviet union in the 3rd yes you know these famous or infamous body wasn't being you know when basically a sound report on his father to the soviet secret police and that the son was killed by his own grandfather for that you know things like that are coming to my mind this is there you find yes fascinating discussion that obviously could go on and on but they've run out of time or a date my guess is the best and here in moscow i want to thank our viewers for watching as the r.c.c. and it's a member. because
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financial survival job today was all about money laundering 1st visit this is just a different. oh good this is a good start well we have our 3 banks all set up here maybe something in europe something in america something overseas in the cayman islands or do we do all these banks are complicit in the we just have to call and say hey i'm ready to do some serious money laundering ok let's see how we did while we've got a nice luxury watch for max and for stacy oh beautiful jewelry and how about. luxury automobile again for max you know what money laundering is highly. much keyser of course. the
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war in syria has lasted longer than world war 2. who has been suffering the most in this almost and back in long conflict regular syrian people. need is more to that than when you might already hear simulate the strain. i could see everything with my own eyes and hear the stories of its residents one group in particular russian wives of syrian man beautiful souls a. day when it goes to look up to it sings nationalist lives. was abundant make no certainly no borders and is blind to nationalities. but. as a microcosm with currently we don't actually. reach to. judgment
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commentary crisis with this system to. see we can do better we should. everyone is contributing way but we also know that this crisis not go on forever the challenges for the response has been must so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together. i got this 8 millimeter film purely by accident. time period 963 to 65 place damascus.
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i was both dumped their why young. i've watched it many times a man posing the monuments and all poster of the hollywood premiere of town without pity and a fight in a market so with outbursts. i had my doubts if i should waste my time on this but i came back to that film over and over again tracing a sequence of events happening in syria at that time anderson those who worked there the wood on the. ground in you going out you'll see neil curiosity is like a perpetual motion machine it lives on without a lunch break and then suddenly i saw him stop let's take another look now at low speed this is key like owing a super spy who some consider a national hero and others and evil villain an israeli double 07.
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because it's but it's them and they at the. at the on shore still. in the headlines this one day morning moscow confirms its 1st case of a new far more contagious covert strain that emerged in the u.k. but medical chiefs say rushes back scene is up to the task. weakened u.s. president faces a 2nd impingement. broad charge with domestic terrorism look at how democrats a deepening the country's divide. coming up to this morning the christmas period brings no rest for germany which is reported to be covert cases but the country's chancellor warning that the situation will only get worse.
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