tv Cross Talk RT January 11, 2021 9:30am-10:01am EST
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because if you think about what really caused what happened on wednesday then he goes back to the fact that people were on the table to have redress for their grievances. the true cost the true culprit i believe was the u.s. supreme court which had a chance to weigh in on this. ruling should we say election 5. they punted refused to get involved and that means that millions upon millions of americans felt that they had no redress that their grievances well not address and that is what happens when people feel deeply discontented i mean and this goes on top of all of the other repressions of everything that had taken place over the boss 12 months so now what is he what what is the remedy for this well i'm all regression more rigid refusal to give the full of voice to give them
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a way to express their feelings and member of the biden administration is now saying that it's 1st order of business will be an anti domestic terrorism bill there's no reason whatsoever for it because the criminal statutes are already chock a block with all manner of criminal. wrongdoing legislation so you want hate crimes and everything else so now example domestic terrorism you know going to start with the lists are actually everybody's will be terrified all who they associate with what they write what websites they visit what they say to their friends on the whatsapp of facebook or whatever or ito rule even on the telephone so it really is just way of imposing an absolutely. you know
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oppressive dictatorship over the population you know you know de mint this is what this does is it what george is this drive is that they are the people that feel that they they are their voices are not being heard you know either through social media or through. elections is that their grievances have been widget amounts by this behavior by the incoming administration and the people are in that orbit and big thank you and oh by the way d m a this is a longstanding american foreign policy is that when their guy doesn't party doesn't do well in a born election they say go out in protest ok in just the new united states right now. things might not go hadn't well you're absolutely right that you know when people were so surprised for example in the beginning of the syrian war how come so many european muslims keen to help the terrorists in syria well didn't you tell
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these european mausam so via your media that aso tall skinny and more stems you know also these repressive she's against both them so a lot of people just volunteered to go to syria the same thing here for many years with her i mean americans heard from the mainstream media in the united states that you need to see this team will win elections in yugoslavia in 2000 won in georgia in 2003 in ukraine in 2004 and it is a current. you remember all of these ones you know they stole the election and every time almost every time these protests ended with a capacious of bottom and that's what happened in ukraine in 2014 and that's what happened in modo up in 2000 lines that's what happened in yugoslavia in 2000 pounds that's what happened to show that now the same georgia in 2003 and now when american strike to do the same thing suddenly they are. i called joe biden domestic
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terrorists white supremacists anti semites i didn't see a single anti-semitic saugor you know there are many bad things don't don't interpret me ask condoning what happened on capitol hill and those people will not die and die sometimes but you mention that neither of us none of us in joe know what happened done deal not at all is a matter back george i want to see those people held accountable and i want to see all the people in the black lives matters and the and keep the riots of the months and months before that be held accountable they got to be single standard that my behavior is not acceptable. exactly right unfortunately that's not the way the american legal judicial system functions we've seen what happened to the people involved in the black lives matter in the n.t. for right it was a river the revolving door treatment. no one was really held accountable it's much the same way as all of the pathological attacks on trump for disputing the election
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now this is destabilizing and horrific in st claims and yet every. 2 2 2 sympathy for the claims of. the woman that abrams woman in georgia who still to this day claims that she is the governor of georgia and everyone is happy to indulge her and say yes this is the person who is the real governor of georgia even though she lost by 50000 votes which incidentally is a great a margin that actually trumps the margin of defeat in the election because if you just count the margin in iras over georgia and wisconsin which butts the 2 biting trump equal it's actually comes to less than $50000.00 so it's exactly the same but the less that's the way it works and of course these people. who are in capitol
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hill and you know they the book will be thrown at that and they're not going to get the revolving door treatment i mean you can think that these people are going to get 1020 years. or more of it so there is no knowing what the equality at all ins. abramson want why don't we have a very special relationship and you know i'll say. you know. my point it's always important to have you on this program because you were born. well and you bought me so much about it well during the time of our friendship i mean it must be interesting for you with that as a russian looking at how dissent is being crushed in the united states when when the new russia. flourishes with its 3 speeches and it's. only contents as. arguments over politics the internet is very very rich and deep in discussion here and you see the closing of it in the united states and you have
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a major political party a party that's going to be controlling all the. parts of government in the end about 10 days not cheering in on what do you think well i think there are 2 important things thank you for the mind in me on the soviet union you know one of their constant feature sauce or your clive was that just sent us where named and shamed you know that on of the main pressure tactics against the soria dissidents also there how can you say these how could you be so distraught and just a go at and how can you be if not toronto us and in the same way would have these shame and in them eric in media right now i mean we all know when well how it became almost indecent to will support trump before the election in 2016 and that's why so many so-so and tickle services won't control him because people were indeed ashamed to say on the phone on 3 and there are questions there. yes i may vote for
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trump rate the same the story is is continuing now in the united states and the and what is interesting the other important thing in the you know our i took a parallel from roderick there right on the them eric and conservative that's a conservative website in the united states and he tired of the he's article about what happened on capitol hill the left's right stock fire we all i think know what happened in the rice stock in march 1033 it's still not known was it indeed a dutch communist who did it you know did he have any support as he to acclaimed from the jewish conspiracy just as he took all of them or was it the not just themselves the most likely it was the nazis themselves who staged this fire in order to crush dissent but in the same way it's still not clear what happened on the cape though he was a just you know that dennis figures who are so empty of and criminal i would say or
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was it the police that somehow sympathized with them or just let them do it because it could be used against them in the future it doesn't matter just like with the right start fire the consequences are so grave that we don't need to talk about the origins but let me quote the result of all of this i expect corporate america who is by left wing activists to undertake a purge of any employees who publicly expressed sympathy with drum or with the election protest be it on their private social media channels or anywhere so mainstream media we can hope for a long time because been shut off for the dissent is basically the real dissent us now the social media are also being shut off and what is very bad about mr trump being shut off again don't take your on i think you more is destructive and humour's bath but you know again parallel with russian history. nicholas the 2nd
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was murder. the important thing was not you know but don't say that he was a once per person and he did a lot of bad things that don't rush into his you but if you can kill that soft then you can kill anyone in the same way if you can block the president of the united states from social media what about the never is joe you know you can do anything to him because he doesn't have the protections of the federal state or even a formal kind of state only going to do is essentially bringing up the complex here in in about 30 seconds why not states right now. well the interesting thing is 2 2 what's now happening is a massive repression of the population it's a way of beating down any possible opposition you have a bite them astray should coming in a president nobody wanted a vice president nobody wanted and election result that is very dubious and you
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have an opposition that is just absolutely enraged and up enough so what's the only remedy the only remedy is to go in for massive repression and i mean i am. actually quite an interesting enough not so grateful that you were discussions political system. i can't show you my face but i'm going to teach you must order in 9093 this man was sentenced to death. they could charge keep it's capital murder even though he didn't have the gun didn't pull the trigger didn't intend to kill anybody to mention the begin your best for the week with the scent of a 23. i doubt that abby byrd to be high but did abby to be. confined within 4 gray walls the phone it's using her. to help him to leave defense room.
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day or thinks. we dare to ask. ben franklin kind of one of the architects of america and he told us how it was going to end when you can both are free money the republic is done and that's what just happened in there 2020 electoral people voted to for free money and now it's officially her band frankly if done it's done it's done.
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welcome back across top were all things were considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're talking about the condition of american democracy. ok let's go back to george in budapest one of the interesting phenomenon for me and looking over the last few years and look and talking about the consequences of what happened on capitol hill is that now not only these leave the media and focus his attention on donald trump fair enough he's a politician and that's why in politicians and that's part of. being a politician anywhere in the western world but what's different here and i think. is the demonization of his supporters and his base here you know we didn't see this before and we have been seeing the same kind of way because as
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in living in this age where you can you can literally turn millions of people off with the head of a click ok but that wasn't the case before here and so when i find really terrifying is that we have this and you're legitimizing the demonization of people that want to participate in public life i mean that's not a civil society that's the end of civil society go ahead george yes that that really goes to the heart of what's going on in america right now because that base . is enraged about everything that's been going on in america for the last $3040.00 maybe 50 years the fact that a tiny percentage of the population much less than one percent is there in commute is growing exponentially while everybody is is stagnate saying the fact that most people are unable to get a good education and able to get into an elite colleges which which is the possible to great jobs in the united states. they're unable to get
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a proper health care. and you know they just they're seeing their jobs being shipped overseas or being given to kind of constant cheap immigrants that are being allowed to go through and into the border illegally all of it all of these dissident voices found expression in donald trump that donald trump it was a very bad messenger but in some ways many millions of americans found in him somebody who understood them who spoke their language now the most of the politicians in the united states in congress don't have that ability they just go to themselves they just talk in these cliches and i think that's really what's going when you when you repress these people tell them they you know to shout out go to hell because the far right extremists racist anti semites or white nationalists or all the rest when you tell them that. you either create
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a situation where there is going to be another violent explosion somewhere at some point all on you know you you do what as you know it was suggesting it would you get there with the russian example which is you've beat the population down into submission and people just give up you know they just feel that it is hopeless they're all attempts at resistance all attempts at remedies have failed you know there's nothing we can do we just simply have to accept things as they are and i think that's kind of how the bolsheviks the british rule for 70 years and people just gave up i mean there was a lot of resistance the bolshevik rule it with the civil war we had crunched all way up to the dissident movement of the $96.00 in the seventy's but each time the bolsheviks just ruthlessly put down any dissent so maybe that's what's happening in the united states it wouldn't end in the making. the d.n.a. that the americans like to think about themselves would get would be completely changed it would be a very different. political culture and maybe that's the direction it's going to be
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in but cancelling 70 to 80000000 people. that's a social experiment in human engineering that i think anyone should be wary of here you know deno one of the things that you know i always look at the basic structures and you focus a lot on the ideology of things i mean the problem home are the homework of western . western political experience is the loyal opposition and the peaceful transfer of power and they're being eroded right now and they're being eroded very quickly in the united states your thoughts where i think the only qualm and more is more or less so on the day of the riot on capitol hill came from the wall street journal the most enjoy know how the mind it's if you go in this way truong who loses the senate and basically in the paper said that the end result of all of this is
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basically part you who you know the united states i mean after the vote in georgia which was of course influenced by the incident in washington even though the democrats don't have any you know marginal majority in the last moment they bought the majority in the senate now they control all of the institutions and local homeys the biden is already indulgent in fantasy as you know white supremacist was there a single racist slogan next to the guy i mean no one can show a single you know about biden is speaking by headlines on the new york times or the washington post which have been scary in the population by these right wing violence which doesn't exist in the united states but there is also they have to environments just like in. germany you know the article in the national interest does the assault on the show americans don't and i go. i'm jake of how wrong i
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think if he brings up a very interesting analogy he says the lead us all bought by guess you know democrats 100 publicans how weaponized are not you can more against their rivals the democrats did it by bailing out foundation find it enjoyable stuff us with secret identity just and superhero style and that i'm too far out for its i mean we have seen the so-called leftist to entre liberal violence this summer you know right now we have seen right some right you know been violence and now we see basically a total seizure of power by van parties so many good has been has passed the why i am a stage and the right star christ if we believe in the american press i'm called into the american newspapers at and now we're on the right to raise the question of punishment for jake and jelly and people like you well whenever you have these protect your vote demonstration and seizure of parliament there are always exhort
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you characterise i mean i invited them many can still watch the video or rather been taken in 2014 by the ukrainian nationalists you will wish to see that a lot of people who more exhort you then jack engine and much more dangerous some of them really nazis know that estates a sad and that these most the people and you know the name that they give to take angela and others a conspiracy theory as you know the new york times reports conspiracy theorist arrested and he may face up to 20 years in jail. and you know conspiracy conspiracy theories is almost the same as a conspiracy maker someone who is operating in conspiracy against the state because you are in against the state or ga mean let's look at it from the conservatives populist side ok so that all of government is getting control by one party you have a big tank going in i mean. parlor i mean i was about to get on parlor and then it
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then you have you know you have the googles of the world and apples of the world. not allow people to access to their platform i mean number one this is so monopolistic i mean it's already monopolistic it and now they're just flaunting it ok obviously if you have you know a one party rule you have to be checking in service of it why wouldn't someone that is conservative think this is a conspiracy against us i mean you know everyone seems to get the conspiracies do we get this ok and and if if you're people that you would in a buy with acted wrongly on the capital or prosecuted but people didn't burn down the wendy's or not then you have people going to say yeah they're out to get us yes that is exactly what they say and and that's why it's so important to make sure that all avenues all their expressing their views. and that that's really
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the goal here and they have the big internet giant who are flagrantly flagrantly violating not just the 7 section 2 such immunities that were granted to them by government but they're always the gauging in anticompetitive 1 conduct they have all this they engaging in violations of the 1st amendment they are behaving. because they think they've got there that a government in power that won't do anything about them and they won't do anything about them because this is you know there's now a happy symbiosis between the democrats and 2 big tech and so yeah i think people will feel well this is you know this is the system is stacked against us and there are very few ran it is because it goes into the one remedy you have is well elections where you know we know we're going to vote these people out in 2 years. 4 years and then we're going to get our guys in prison now we've seen
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this election you can just rake it and you know if the system remains on reform and the democrats will make sure that it will remain on record that mail in voting well now they be the norm in the united states if you ensure that it's all of this is rape and then if you do what i think biden the negotiation will do which is grant a massive and estate to the 40 who knows how many illegals living in the united states then you can make sure that if that these people who are feel this in death it will be in a permanent minority so they'll be told shut up and suck it up and i think that that's where things are going in the united states not just sing thing is that you know because demon brought up the georgia election here and it and one of the reasons why the democrats won is that you know they they said we're going to give you $2000.00 ok and i think in washington in both parties including donald trump
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screwed up that issue of that was a no brainer george and i have talked about this in a number of times and it's really interesting dilemma is that you know shut up keep your head down keep your thoughts to yourself it because one way or another we're going to get in your head ok that's the goal but we'll give you $2000.00 we'll give you some crumbs and you'll be content again the soviet union comes to mind i mean sure you get some material things but don't have a thought for yourself we'll tell you what the thing i mean the perils of growing it's getting absurdly obvious to me well you're right i think this situation is even more taking fire and because it's really just a just the soviet union was almost benayoun and humane compared to what we see now i've been into that estates i mean when i heard today you know when i when i read on the media how a daughter on her mother you know on errands that they went to this demonstration brought trump demonstrations and the daughter reported to them. no you put it on to
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the police that's exactly what happened in the soviet union in the 3rd us you know these famous so infamous body rolls of being you know when basically assad reported on his father to the soviet secret police and then the son was killed by his own grandfather for that you know things like that are coming to my mind this is there you find yes fascinating discussion that obviously could go on and on but run out of time or a date my guess is the best and here in moscow i want to thank our viewers for watching as the r.c.c. and its not a member. the war in syria has lasted longer than world war 2. who has
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been suffering the most in this almost undoubtedly long conflict regular syrian people. need is more than when you might. not could see everything with my own eyes and hear the stories of its residents one group in particular russian wives of syrian man. they were let loose to look up to his national just.
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