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the group must protect its own existence with existence. if. they want to cancel the president you don't merely. literature know if your nemesis republicans accuse democrats of attempting to cancel the us president and claim their vote to impeach him was more about revenge than justice that is after donald trump becomes the 1st u.s. leader to suffer the indignity twice. vandalized torched hundreds of rioters set a brussels police station on fire after an african immigrant dies in custody. and greece calls on the e.u. to speed up code with passports to get travelers of moving again but tourism
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industry leaders warn they could discriminate against people who cannot be inoculated. should be the only concede we don't have to wait for. downloaded the app for your apple or android device or to get the latest updates on the goes to ground 0 is coming up next. my guest today described as a good man with a vicious sense of humor brilliant. senate committee and daniel sloss hey it's great to have you with us today thank you so
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much for having me right so dale my impression is that humor is like a perfect marriage of the reality really that we live in and let's say if we take american standup comedy for instance there were sex set on stage could one slender in jail and if you're swearing it could cost you having fines etc then it became totally fine to talk about all those things in a most frivolous of manners. and society was gradually loosening up the humor was becoming more jiggy as well and what are we seeing now would you would you say that we're seeing a reverse trend right now i really don't subscribe to not a tape of that. comedy is being censored i think people are just being yelled at because of the internet they're just being yelled out more of with more volume of jokes aren't necessarily more and a face of them people are necessarily more offended but it's just know we live in
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a world where the joke that we would just stop saying let's face it in a comedy club with a 100 people in it you do a joke that would normally only upset 20 people one of them films it online with no context and then a bunch of people who are not the comedy club who want to tend it's you cannot of the background information they get to pile on from the part of the internet where they're saying and. just take it all away that it feels like you know this is what counsel culture is the people you know like often counseled i think counseled . and this might be naive i don't think it's specially called me i don't see anyone that's been i actually fully counseled like everyone that didn't get council does not want to or they've got a book deal off the back of a good show many people who go oh i got in trouble for this joke and it's you just seem to get more i don't or publicity but maybe that's just my skewed view. well because i'm blotched here sats and you're here hilarious by the way he's going
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to let you know you really free in the way you joke about religion and me to you and sex and death to say you've never really got the ceiling or that you're walking a tightrope with your jokes oh no i definitely do like i know there's a there's a social life with the audience that you know i like to find out where the light hits and i like to push it and see her fun i can go on for the and if i do go too far over the bridge of the audience by eric all i'm asking is if you've ever been in a situation like that in a relationship where you felt trapped that you couldn't get out of interest it's easier to stand it all i'm asking is it even for the briefest of seconds have you ever accidentally caught yourself thank him how much easier life would be. if they were to just dumb. i've upset or great number of people with my
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comedy before but i don't necessarily think that it's because more people are. more sensitive i think it's because the audience is bigger more people are watching comedy no people are you know it's become as you say very very popular people want to do it so you go people who don't understand the new wants of comedy and they go and see like a comedian like jim jeffries a war. or you know maybe in the heat of the jokes and they hear the trigger words they hear sexual assault they hear paedophilia they hear the legend drugs whatever their thing they say it's them and they just don't know how to take and before like when those people didn't enjoy your jokes all they did it's was complain about after the show to their friends and they maybe send you a death threat but i think you had 3 like a death or one of the paper i had to find out where they lived where it is now you can just do it online and. i just think there's i don't feel the audiences are
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getting more sensitive i'm mortified i'm more shocked by what i can get away with not because i'm always told her sensitive people are and then you go on stage and i do jokes about rape couldn't relate to people like you are just pursued dangerous you like no no if you do it well you know you may think you're saying they say that because i mean i spent a fair amount of time in the states that i mean i've seen how people used to joke their 20 years ago and how they joke that i want to turn on the late night shows i mean those are like some brilliant guys like fallon and kimmel and. colbert and and they compare how they said joe it was like 5 years ago and now in a kind of feel bad for them because it's like they're left with a new. nothing to joke about but trump there's nothing else they can joke about and then you have some extreme cases like the sharlee of da killings or lake the to be had a teacher you know who dares to speak about it but. all of that isn't tied to humor
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unlike before before they have this whole new ethic and this like me to movement came into the b.l.m. and all of that. i mean i guess people get offended but live like what's the point if i get offended because no one's there to stand up for me and now i feel like everyone so empowered that they're like well if you offend me you know you're going to you're going to pay for that. point i gree with you but so people are more empowered to be offended but i don't i think i'm just very much of the opinion of genuinely if i fail so far was like what would like genuinely so raphe a job say are you going to let me have that power over you in your head for the rest of your day all right then and i was find it so amazing like the naive the t. of people who are offended by jokes and i 1st like think being offended by
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a joke is one of the most narcissistic things in the world and this is coming from a professional narcissist. but like to be offended by a joke is to say it in a comedy club and to see it can be t n who has done this one joke minimum for $500.00 types all over the world all over the country you as an individual you sit there and this comedian goes on stage makes a joke about diabetes or disability or way everything affects you and because it doesn't think he you you think this comedian took time out of their day to write a joke specifically to save you when they don't even know who you watched just the joe this is a joke all over the world to set them to go i'm offended by this joke they must have done this just to effect me is a level of self centered ness that i genuinely admire like i am and also the people that you know i don't like offending people with my comedy sometimes out and just
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one of the things you that comes from talking about certain subjects and if i accidentally found in an audience member. i'm upset and i'll make. measures to maybe change the wording of the joke because if i don't i don't want to accidentally offend people i don't want to offend people don't want to upset because in your leg kicks so sad there is this idea of us that humor is like art and certainly he were can certainly be seen as a form of art itself he's open to it in preparation interpretation right so if you get offended by some of it you should always remember that is how you sell is that necessarily that i meant it are you so do you mean to say that comedians should really be so responsible if their jokes get under someone's skin is that the point where making no i think i think it pays to joke i don't that is a blanket rule there i believe that there can be accidental victim of jokes like for example in my past just a very small example but when i was younger i was doing
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a bunch of like before gay marriage was legalized in scotland i was doing a bunch of pro gay material and whenever i was just to prove a material i was talking about gay men and like this is what gay men are like and this is why i support them this is why i support gay marriage but every time i was talking about equal manage it was always men and game and i was using example just a month or so of course i was the line which i was using i did a shoot someone in london and there was a young. 13 or 14 just very very nervous or dost if you like she's got a couple of questions for you and i spoke to him afterwards and she said you do all this pro gay material but you don't do any pro lesbian material is that because you don't believe the lesbians should have the same race gay man or does it and of course the answer is no it's just my language i just i just use the word month because i'm a man but because i sat in that woman accidentally left her i'd accidentally
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upset or that's an accidental victim and that changed all it takes is for me when i'm talking about relationships and to say your partner is a simple word changes on being censored it's not me being for. sensitive it's not the one old shot of the internet no no it's just some do it i hate this is how i interpret a joke. i didn't mean it to go without way so i'll make sure that in future iterations of the joke. i endeavor to make it more accessible if i'm intentionally trying to upset the great but sometimes you know it's like a shotgun you find a shotgun in a direction you might hit more people than you intend to take a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking about what's happening with humor and humor with stand up comedian daniel sloss take with us.
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the gun didn't pull the trigger didn't intend to kill anybody imagine living in your bathroom for the week with his turn of the 23. but. confined within 4 gray walls he fights using hot. art to help him to leave defense room. and we're back with stand up comedian that is lost talking about humor today daniel but you know i've been talking to a lot of comedians lately and most of them actually 'd agree probably like you that there are no off the mitt topics and humor but that can be off limits jokes for is
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will do you agree with this and if they do then how do you like what is what is in the off limits joke for you what would you say if there is such thing i do i don't think any topic is off limits but there's topics that i would not go anywhere near just. trance tough i would go anywhere near them i don't i'm not i was born a man identified as a man i don't know what it's like to be trapped inside of a body that you don't recognize your own not enough research any one of know then any research into it so my opinion on it is. not important it's an educated it doesn't need to be going to out if i wanted to do jokes about a trance stuff. i would i should be allowed to of course i should be elected and i am a like 10 i can say whatever i like about it but for me personally i've got nothing to add to the conversation. nothing i say will be nothing new to say and i don't have any fresh takes and i don't have any insight into excess no it's not it's not
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my what all. those you know it's official for so many years before before i did the show x i'd always heard that you know the thing that rape jokes are never funny you should never joke about rape and he said it was to be it's like you know santa silverman has some of the best rate jokes in the what if you can break is never funny you know of course rape is never funny of course rape is never funny the jokes about say says is to take power away from them and if it comes it from the right i go. if you come out from the right area and you're aiming the right target in the subject you can always you talk at least in my opinion if you talk about something openly and empathetically and the audience understand that you are coming from a place that's not love at least a place of known hate and. then you're free to talk about whatever you want but people hope people will be offended they just are to feel like we'll live in a time where humor needs to be defended i tell you i'm asking because you certainly
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have your very precise stems on how things stand and you don't feel like you are somehow restraint in the way you should joke about things but a lot of other people are spoken to they're like yeah this time they're coming maybe more in america than over there where you are but sooner or later they always reach us including this new ethic thing so let's say if you know that this human sort of our society evolution reached a point where we'll be like maybe it's not ok to joke about this and this. what do you do then. then i joke about it. because of that because in america it's already happening i'm sorry to bring this up a lot of the example of america but it does seem like everything the trends that starts there are usually gradually come all the way to europe and the spread around the world if you joke about something that is considered inappropriate you just lose
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your job i know it's you know going to go to prison but no one's going to book you anymore and i was going to watch you you hate it you know like you say it like a good concerts and counseled exaggerate cetera that's what i'm saying i mean yeah you can joke about it i mean this is your choice and no one can take away but you'll be risking losing your career. that's a bit weird don't necessarily think you will be risking your career because you say this thing and you upset all of these people you know but there's also an audience for the not like that like let's let's not pretend the same people that are offended by and these jokes are the same people that vote for donald trump like there's like there's a there's always there's always a mark i think what happens a lot of the time when it comes to. certain comedians when they say that their council didn't mean the mainstream audiences will watch them anymore because they
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said something horrific you'll fight not if you want to be you know just fine to have right wait. this summer then the sun jaitley really good ones too and they were in the u.k. there's some decent comedians but there's plenty of ones and they all say oh you know the reason i'm not successful is because you know i say all these unpopular things and you go no there's people out there who have the same opinions as you and i know that's true because i am also under a right wing government so let's not pretend for a 2nd jenna price or that you're being silenced you just you know pages are popular with mace you call me fine and that's fight go fight your own audience but don't complain when they're all stupid racists like those that don't be upset by the by the crooks that you cultivate well let me ask you this do you feel like there is such thing as monopoly for a certain jokes. i'm going to explain what i mean for instance. it's a proper id for black people to joke about b.l.m. but if you're not black then it's deemed racist in the joke about it or for jewish
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people to joke about holocaust i mean you know it's ok that satire sasha baron cohen doesn't because he's jewish but like if someone else did the same thing he was doing it would be perceived in a completely different way like for a woman to joke about man a pos that's ok but like if a man jokes about man paused and sexist you know what i mean is there such thing as a monopoly for certain joes can you overstep it i think you can but like for example if if and let's say it let's say got for that might that ice next year right you come you come to my dad's funeral i invite you along i'd love you to come here would mean the world to me if you came to my guns you know he always spoke about you because of my dad's funeral i could if i make a joke about my dad being right you know like to lafayette because that's my paid smyth struggled my dad states i don't know times like this moment i make it you. ok you know but that that you love and that's fine my pain i shared that we stuck together if you come to my dad's funeral and you start making jokes about my dad
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that you know like that's because it's not your paid it's not a good experience that i may not come from a maybe put a bit of a strong word there but you know it's it's i think it's about where you come from you have to you always have to analyze where you are and who you are when you make a joke like when i was doing and the show x. when i was talking about sex and so and stuff i'm not a woman i'm a straight white man a bit of quiet and you know an easy life i'm to and that's not to say obviously the main county sex they sort of course they can and there's a lot of male survivors out there and their plates are. and their struggles are as valid as. that of women but you know. i was talking about a struggle that was and was in my own living a life not in sex they sold about was talking about the sexual assault of a friend and. that talking about that i could
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very very have easily upset people in the audience who aren't who sorry who happens x. or so it because i didn't go through that experience i could have said the wrong thing my path where i coming from is a more ignorant place and when survivors say to me during the you know their early performances of the show hey you said this and we that and and that was wrong or that was we didn't agree with. i changed it because that was me going ok with i'm still trying to make jokes and i'm i'm standing firm that i can talk about this and i can make jokes about it but i've also got to hold my hand up and admit that i'm also deeply honored office so i might say. they're all things. i just i don't think it's necessarily a monopoly like there's definitely that the hypocrisy is there but if you go to call it up in new york there are plenty of there's
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a loss of white comedians are doing jokes but black people black people enjoy the white people meant making jokes about women maybe i've been lucky maybe i'm maybe i'm just not experiencing this censorship myself but i've known of not announcing a lot of. you know stand up is mostly this observational type of humor right when you talk about things that supposedly occur to you it's very there are a pedophile in a way like you know. it's almost like is it if you were religious that is it's like a confession to your public about your deepest inner lake i don't know if ears and thoughts so. but our daily routine doesn't always give us that much topic to laugh about right in in the sense that you need a strategy or complexity in order to joke about it. on stage does
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a stand up comedian have to deliberately be cruising for a bruising from time to time at least to be able to make a joke about it afterward you just make it up in the end. but you've touched on something which is like one of the really it's i don't think it's to see a perfect part of a comedian but i think it's a it's definitely a weird thing which is whenever something happens to whether there's a tragedy of the cruise or your life. experience the sadness in the morning or whatever the emotion is but there is always that the doctor had to go to tell on stage 2 so it's kind of you know the way it makes those moments easier. it you know just knowing hey a bad thing happened to me this will be funny on stage later and then not instantly makes it easier to process and so yeah maybe there probably is a little bit of index of this i definitely in my younger years made some stupid decisions purely based on the fact that i thought it would get me
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a story i could tell on stage it's not good having liberal parents growing up really not especially your teenage years because a you can trip ale. against the love you no matter what's real. comes from my teenage years i'm ready to stick it to the man i'm just like stick it to the person. that is going i remember being like 15 perhaps just up just all the stupid boy test just everything i just wanted to tell go to my mum be like mom dad i can a star trek can. not i'm i'm just a like. the 15. this is scotland what do you. well let's say i want to be a stand up caribbean right where me a couple of quick tips how do i bring down the house like this
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a lot of people say like you can't learn how to joke but i'm sure you can i think i thought i think you cound the thing the main thing to learn is to how to be yourself or there on stage what if being myself means like just being quiet and observe and i don't think that would make people laugh if they go and say to just legs then they're saying nothing just give me like a few clips like 12 maybe 3. ok i get on stage is as much as often as you count as my hope to go small the audience says you have to get used to being on stage that's just be comfortable stage the audience is simultaneously the smartest people in the room and the dumbest in the world and the saints that if you are nervous they will know you're nervous within a 2nd right and if you're nervous on stage the like if he or she is nervous why should i be comfortable or why should i trust them to get through life i'm nervous and i actually emphasize on the fact that i'm nervous and i'm very honest about it i joke about it with that work yeah absolutely mother something that is
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a feel thing of british comedy for this sort of like beethoven. style call medio for the sale to face saying you know i'm nervous some days i think you can absolutely make it funny but that's you know if that's who you are and that's that it's your job. to make that funny to the audience or to make it relatable or to find those you know even if you are weird required to find the things that do relate to you know what you saw on the other site the things that make you stand out so much that they find amusing. daily it's been really great talking to you have had a lot of fun alex and all the best of luck with all your endeavors and i hope i hope won't come to a point where well need to find humor i hope this strange time 1st we'll sort themselves out. and when it comes to this they'd be on the road like i kind. of a big bleeding heart liberal but when it comes to free speech it's across the potomac
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mobile mr austin how are you my friend man i'm doing great i appreciate you having me oh no it's been a long term sam see you in person that blunt tab listen brother i have to give you thanks as a north texas university you know i'm a pittsburgh boy thank you for gifted us with joe greene who arguably the greatest i don't know there's been learnt taylor there's a few but you've got to put joe green on the mount rushmore deep sense of place did you play the line there steve where ya heard enough to play d. line like joe green did or what did you play you know i went there is a linebacker dennis and a but me on a kickoff coverage i'm a junior season so rehab the rest of the season and i started all next year and week sad defense of him so i was only. a group back to mean joe green i was such a pittsburgh fan back in the day i was you know really.
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