because it's a very dangerous oh no power plant that was attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limits this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on the power in this country where's it going is it moving more towards corporate interests or is it more in the idea of a traditional participatory democracy is or power lie with the people this demonstrates that struggle in a very real way. a struggle. welcome to vision that. my guest today describes himself as a good man with a vicious sense of humor as young brilliant provocative that's a serious talk about humor what standup comedian. stand

up comedian daniel sloss hey it's great to have you with us today. all right so do you know my impression is that humor is like a perfect mirror of the reality reality that we live in and let's say if we take american standup comedy for instance the word sex set on stage one slender in jail and if you're swearing it could cost you having fines etc then it became totally fine to talk about all those things in the most frivolous of manners. and society was gradually listening up the humor was becoming more jiggy as well and what are we seeing now would you would you say that we're seeing a reverse trend right now i really don't subscribe to not it's have that. comedy is being censored i think people are just being yelled at because of the internet they're just being yelled out more of with more volume of jokes aren't

necessarily more. a face of them people are necessarily more offended but it's just know we live in a world where the joke that we would just stop saying let's say sed it in a comedy club with a 100 people in it you do a joke that would normally only upset 20 people one of them films it to say online with no context and then a bunch of people who are not the comedy club who aren't in attendance you cannot of the background information they get to pile on from the part of the internet where they're saying and. just take it all away that it feels like you know this is what counsel culture is that people are like often counseled often counseled. and this might be the eve i don't especially call the i don't see anyone that's been i actually fully counseled like everyone that didn't get council does not want to or they've got a good deal of the back of it you could show many people who go oh i got in trouble for this joke and it's you just seem to get more i don't or publicity but maybe

that's just my skewed view. well because i've bought steer sets and you're here hilarious by the way he's going to let you hear you really free in the way joke about religion and me to you and sex and death to say you've never really got the ceiling or that you're walking a tight rope with your jokes oh no i definitely do like i know there's a there's a social life with the audience that you know i like to find out where the light is and i like to push it and see her fun i can go for the end if i do go too far over the bridge of the audience by nick all i'm asking is if you've ever been in a situation like that in a relationship where you felt trapped that you couldn't get out the fantasy is easier to stand it all i'm asking is it even for the briefest of seconds have you ever accidentally caught yourself thank him how much easier life would be. if they were to just dump. i've upset or great number of people with my

comedy before but i don't necessarily think that it's because more people are getting more sensitive i think it's because the audience is bigger more people are watching comedy no people are you know it's become as you say very very popular people want to do it so if you go people who don't understand the new wants of comedy and they go and see like a comedian like jim jeffries a war. or you know me and they hear the jokes and they hear the trigger words they hear sexual assault they hear paedophilia they hear the legend drugs whatever their thing they say it's them and they just don't know how to take and before like when those people didn't enjoy your jokes all they did to was complain about after the show to their friends and they maybe sent you a death threat but i think you had 3 like

a death or one of the paper i had to find out where they lived where it is now you can just do it online and. i just think there's i don't feel the audiences are getting more sensitive i'm more if i i'm more shocked by what i can get away with not because i'm always told her sensitive people are and then you go on stage and i do jokes about rape couldn't relate to people like a lot of us be soo dangerous you like no no if you do it well like you know you may think you're single say that because i mean i spent a fair amount of time in the states yeah i mean i've seen how people used to joke there 20 years ago and how they joke that i want to turn on the late night shows i mean those are like some brilliant guys like fallon and kimmel and. colbert and and they compare how they said joe it was like 5 years ago and now in a kind of feel bad for them because it's like they're left with a. nothing to joke about but trump there's nothing else they can joke about and then you have some extreme cases like the sharlee of da killings or lake the to be

had a teacher you know who dares to speak about it but. all of that isn't tied to humor unlike before before the whole new ethic in this like me to movement came into the b.l.m. and all of that. i mean i guess people will get offended but like what's the point if i get offended because no one's there to stand up for me and now i feel like everyone's so empowered that they're like well if you offend me you know you're going to you're going to pay for that. point i gree with you but so people are more empowered to be offended but i don't i think i'm just very much of the opinion of genuinely if i failed you so far wat like what would like genuinely so raf a job say are you going to let me have that power over you in your head for the

rest of your day all right then and i was find it so amazing like the naive the t. of people who were offended by jokes and i 1st i think being offended by a joke is one of the most narcissistic things in the world and this is coming from a professional narcissist. that like to be offended by a joke is to say in a comedy club and to see it can be t n who has done this one joke minimum for $500.00 types all over the world all over the country you as an individual you sit there and this comedian goes on stage makes jokes about diabetes or disability or way everything affects you and because it doesn't think he you you think this comedian took time out of their day to write a joke specifically say you when they don't even know who you watched just a joke this is a joke all over the world to set them to go i'm offended by this joke they must have done best just to affect me is a level of self centered ness that i genuinely admire like i am and also the people

that you know i don't like offending people with my comedy sometimes out and just one of the things you that comes from talking about certain subjects and if i accidentally found in an audience member. i'm upset and i'll make. measures to maybe change the wording of the joke because if i don't i don't want to accidentally offend people i don't want to offend people don't want to upset because in your leg kicks so sad there is this idea of us that humor is like art and certainly he were can certainly be seen as a form of art itself is open to interpretation right so if you get offended by some of it you should always remember that is how you so is that necessarily that i meant it are you so do you mean to say that comedians should really be so responsible if their jokes get under someone's skin is that the point where making no i think i think it pays to joke i don't that is a blanket rule there i believe that there can be accidental victim of jokes like

for example in my past and just a very small example but when i was younger i was doing a bunch of like before gay marriage was legalized in scotland i was doing a bunch of pro gay material and whenever i was just to prove a material i was talking about gay men and like this is what gay men are like and this is why i support them this is why i support gay marriage but every time i was talking about equal manage it was always men and game and i was using example just a month or so of course i was the line which i was using i did a shoot someone in london and there was a young age but 13 or 14 just very very nervous or dost if you like she's got a couple of questions for you and i spoke to afterwards and she said you do all this pro gay material but you don't do any pro lesbian material is that because you don't believe the lesbians should have the same race gay man or does it and of course the answer is no it's just my language i just i just use the word month

because i'm a man but because i sat in that woman accidentally left her i'd accidentally upset or that's an accidental victim and that changed all it takes is for me when i'm talking about relationships and to say your partner is a simple word change is only being censored it's not me being for. sensitive it's not the one old shockingly of the internet no no it's just some do it i hate this is how i interpret a joke and we call in fuck i didn't mean it to go without way so i'll make sure that in future iterations of the joke. i endeavor to make it more. like a bomb if i'm intentionally trying to upset the great but sometimes you know it's like a shotgun you find a shotgun in a direction you might hit more people than you intend to tell it had a short break right now when we're back we'll continue talking about what's happening with humor and humor with stand up comedian daniel sloss take with us.

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off limit joke for you what would you say if there is such thing i do i don't think any topic is off limits but there's talk that i would not go anywhere near just. trance tough i would go anywhere near them i don't i'm not i was born a man identified as a man i don't know what it's like to be trapped inside of a body that you don't recognize your own not enough research any one of know then any research into it so my opinion on it is. not important it's an educated it doesn't need to be going to out if i wanted to do jokes about stuff. i would i should be allowed to of course i should be elected and i am a like 10 i can say whatever i like about it but for me personally i've got nothing to add to the conversation gawith nothing i say will be nothing new to say and i don't have any fresh takes and i don't have any insight into excess no it's not it's not my what all. those you know it's official for so many years before before

i did the show x i'd always heard that you know the thing that rape jokes are never funny you should never joke about rape and he said the opposite of what comedians like you know santa silverman has some of the best rate jokes in the what if you can break is never funny you know of course rape is never funny of course rape is never funny the jokes about if they says is to take power away from them and if it comes it from the right i go. if you come out from the right area and you're aiming the right target in the subject you can always you talk at least in my opinion if you talk about something openly and empathetically and the audience understand that you are coming from a place that's not love at least a place of no one hates them. then you're free to talk about whatever you want but people hope people will be offended they just are do you feel like we'll live in a time where humor needs to be defended i tell you i'm asking because you certainly have your very precise stands on how things stand and you don't feel like you are

somehow restraint in the way you should joke about things but a lot of other people oh spoken to you they're like yeah this time they're coming maybe more in america than over there where you are but sooner or later they always reach us including this new ethic thing so let's say if you know that this human sort of our society evolution reached a point where we'll be like maybe it's not ok to joke about this and this. what do you do then. then i joke about it. because of it because in america it's already happening i'm sorry to bring this up a lot of the example of america but it does seem like everything the trends that starves there usually gradually come all the way to europe and the spread around the world if you joke about something that is considered inappropriate you just lose your job i mean i was you know going to go to prison but no one's going to book you anymore and i was going to watch you you hate it you know like you see it

like a their concerts are canceled exaggerate cetera that's what i'm saying i mean yeah you can joke about it i mean this is your choice that no one can take away but you'll be risking losing your career. that's a bit weird don't necessarily think you will be risking your career because you say this thing and you upset all of these people you know but there's also an audience for the not like that like let's let's not pretend the same people that are offended by and these jokes are the same people that vote for donald trump like there's like there's a there's always there's always a market i think what happens a lot of the time when it comes to. certain comedians when they say that their counsel they mean the mainstream audiences will watch them anymore because they said something horrific you'll fight man if you want to be you know just plenty of right way to do this some then there's some generally really good ones too and they

were in the u.k. there's some decent comedians but there's plenty of ones and they all say oh you know the reason i'm not successful is because you know i say all these unpopular things and you go no there's people out there who have the same opinions as you and i know that's true because i am also under a right wing government so let's not pretend for a 2nd jenna price or that you're being silenced you just you know pages are popular with mace you call me fine and that's fight go fight your own audience but don't complain when they're all stupid racists like those that don't be upset by the by the crooks that you cultivate well let me ask you this do you feel like there is such thing as monopoly for a certain jokes. i'm going to explain what i mean for instance. it's appropriate for black people to joke about b.l.m. but if you're not black then it's deemed racist in the joke about it or for jewish people to joke about holocaust i mean you know it's ok that satire sasha baron cohen doesn't because he's jewish but like if someone else did the same thing he

was doing it would be perceived in a completely different way like for a woman to joke about man a pos that's ok but like if a man jokes about menopause than sexist you know what i mean is there such thing as a monopoly for certain joes can you overstep it i think you can but like for example if if if let's say let's say god for that night that ice next year right you come you come to my dad's funeral i invite you along i'd love you to come here would mean the world to me if you came to my guns you know he always spoke about you because of my dad's funeral i could if i make a joke about my dad being right you know like to lafayette because that's my paid smyth struggled my dad states i don't know times like this moment i make it you. ok you know but that that you love and that's fine my pain i shared that we stuck together if you come to my dad's funeral and you start making jokes about my dad that you know like that's because it's not your paid it's not your experience that

it may not come from a maybe put a bit of a strong word there but you know it's it's i think it's about where he come from you have to you always have to analyze where you are and who you are when you make a joke like when i was doing and the show x. when i was talking about sex and so and stuff i'm not a woman i'm a straight white man a bit of quiet and you know an easy life i'm to and that's not to say obviously the main county sex they sort of course they can and there's a lot of male survivors there and their plates are. and their struggles are as valid as. that of women but you know. i was talking about a struggle that was and was in my own living a life not in sex they sold about was talking about the sexual assault of a friend and. that talking about that i could very very have easily upset people in the audience who aren't who sorry who happens

x. or so it because i didn't go through that experience i could have said the wrong thing my path when i coming from it's a more ignorant place and when survivors say to me during the you know their early performances of the show hey you said this and we that and and that was wrong or that was we didn't agree with. i changed it because that was me going ok look i'm still trying to make jokes and i'm i'm standing firm that i can talk about this and i can make jokes about it but i've also got to hold my hand up and admit that i'm also deeply honored office so i might say. they're all things. so i don't think it's necessarily a monopoly like there's definitely that the hypocrisy is there but if you want to call it up in new york there are plenty of there's a loss of white comedians are doing jokes but black people black people and just the white people meant making jokes about women maybe i've been lucky maybe i'm

maybe i'm just not experiencing this censorship myself but i've. not seen a lot of that. well you know stand up is mostly this observational type of humor right when you talk about things that supposedly occur to you it's very there are a pedestal in a way like you know. it's almost like is it if you were religious that is it's like a confession to your public about your deepest inner lake i don't know if ears and thoughts so. but our daily routine doesn't always give us that much topic to laugh about right in in the sense that you need a strategy or complexity in order to joke about it. on stage does a stand up comedian have to deliberately be cruising for a bruising from time to time at least to be able to make

a joke about it afterward view just make it up in the end. but you've touched on something which is like one of the really it's i don't think it's to see a perfect part of a comedian but i think it's a it's definitely a weird thing which is whenever something poppins to whenever there's a tragedy of the cruise or your life. experience the sadness in the morning or whatever the emotion is but there is always that the doctor had to go to tell on stage 2 so it's kind of you know the way it makes those moments easier. it you know just knowing hey a bad thing happened to me this will be funny on stage later and then not instantly makes it easier to process and to get me there probably is a little bit of index of this i definitely in my younger years made some stupid decisions purely based on the fact that i thought it would get me a story i could tell on stage it's not good having liberal parents growing up really not especially your teenage years because

a you can trip ale. against the love you no matter what's real. comes from my teenage years i'm ready to stick it to the man i'm just like stick it to the person. that is going i remember being like 15 perhaps just up just all the stupid boy test just everything i just wanted to tell go to my mum be like my dad i can a star trek can. not i'm i'm i'm just a like that. if. this is scotland what do you. well let's say i want to be a stand up comedian right when me a couple of quick tips how do i bring down the house like this a lot of people say like you can't learn how to joke but i'm sure you can i think i thought i think you cound the thing the main thing to learn is to her to be

yourself or there on stage what if being myself means like just being quiet and observe and i don't think that would make people 'd laugh or think oh i think to just legs then they're saying nothing just give me like a few clips like 12 maybe 3. ok i get on stage is as much as often as you count as my hope to go small the audience says you have to get used to being on stage that's just be comfortable stage the audience is simultaneously the smartest people in the room and the dumbest in the world and the saints that if you are nervous they will know you're nervous within a 2nd right and if you're nervous on stage the like if he or she is nervous why should i be comfortable or why should i trust them to get through life i'm nervous and i actually emphasize on the fact that i'm nervous and i'm very honest about it i joke about it with that work yeah absolutely mother something that is a feel thing of british comedy for this sort of like beethoven. style call medio fi

is the sales of face saying you know i'm nervous i'm this i think you can absolutely make it funny but that's you know if that's who you are and that's that it's your job. to make that funny to the audience or to make it relatable or to find those you know even if you are weird required to find the things that do relate to not use all of the other site the things that make you stand out so much that they find amusing. daily it's been really great talking to you have had a lot of fun alice and all the best of luck with all your picture endeavors and i hope i hope you'll want to come to a point where well need to find humor i hope this strange time force will sort themselves out and when it comes to this they'd be on the road like. a big bleeding heart liberal but when it comes to free speech it's across the potomac thank you phil i'd say good luck with everything.

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