book updates and just like it's. millions of users and even even global leaders flock to privacy centric messaging apps like telegram i made concerns over data sharing that says facebook and twitter are hit by scandals over censorship. there is anger over u.s. media suggestions that donald trump supporters are a cult who need deprogramming like extremists. to disappear in the artwork there are certainly broad 1000000 people who were agree with an american. on a shift in fact in advice in norway after 13 people died after receiving the fine as a job but the drugs agency says it's not alarmed. will

welcome you watching r.t. international with me here airing our top story it's being called the largest digital migration in history millions of users are abandoning won't stop or the new terms which would mean users sharing more of their data with parent company facebook even global leaders are making the switch to more privacy centric rivals such as telegram looking at the trying times to meet republic. moving to greener pastures has been one of the key drivers of humanity's survival but if in the past people fled from war dictators and natural disasters today we're witnessing a very 21st century style of mass migration the already massive influx of new users to telegram has only accelerated we may be witnessing the largest digital migration

in human history millions have recently chosen to ditch the old new media as messengers and move to even newer ones like telegram or signal and there are 2 big bug bears behind the exodus privacy is the big one whatsapp snooty and see we'll see who is this little footprint shared more with parent firm facebook and who wants to open up even more of the world's most notorious data harvester 2nd as censorship triggers to recent purge of donald trump and his supporters has laid bare the capacity of the internet as gatekeepers to silence anyone they deem to be dangerous that's got other world leaders spooked a spec the chancellor considers it problematic as the accounts of the us presidents have now been permanently blocked i don't like anybody being censored it's taking away the right to post a message on twitter facebook i don't agree with that i don't accept that 10 world leaders including the presidents of circ and brazil have already made the switch to telegram much to the appreciation of the firm's founder we are honored that

political leaders as well as numerous public organizations rely on telegram to combat misinformation and spread awareness about important issues in their societies unlike other networks telegram doesn't use opaque algorithms to decide whether a subscriber will see content they subscribe to or not as a result telegram channels are the only direct way for opinion leaders to reliably connect with their audiences the internet has represented freedom since its inception it's supposed to be a place where you can read what you want say what you want but arbitrary cents. the ship and the big platforms we know which you want better than you do approach is the last straw for many not that titans are prepared to lose business to the competitors declaring the alternative is nothing short of a threat to society before stamping them out we have always supported diverse points of view being represented on the eps too but there is no place in our

platform for threats of violence and illegal activity we cannot provide services to a customer that is unable to effectively identify and remove content that encourages our incites violence against others parlor one of the biggest alternative social networks was wiped off line in a matter of days following the capitol riots and now even telegram is facing accusations of being a haven for conspiracy theorists and far right extremists and that's despite the fact that the company recently removed dozens of groups containing calls to violence but while big to take out competitors might occasionally yield success it doesn't change the fact that social media space is evolving and fast and for many free speech will be the deciding factor in choosing a platform turkey's envoy to the czech republic is one of many politicians switching to the online messaging app telegram he told us people have become wary of the traditional tech giants. i think in the long run facebook what's out there.

by the same corporate this isn't makers have to revise the rules because they have . you know wait scared people know that there are already a lot of the nation cases against them for misusing information and there were a lot of court cases but now they're making it public so in no way the secret is now coming out that the information is in you and they are actually getting your consent for it and and they have double standards if you are a what's yours or in germany you have a different conditions but if you are in russia or if you are in turkey if you go and azerbaijan if you are incorrect is that you are entitled to different rules this is not fair we now live in a global village and these kind of forms connect all of us so technology should not be discriminative technology and communication should be embracing everyone and i think these policies are going to make people feel that

they have been isolated and they have been discriminated against. mainstream media have stepped up their attacks on all those who voted for donald trump there are calls to deprogram his supporters and some have even made comparisons with terrorists there are millions of americans i'm also worried almost all republicans . somehow need to be deprogrammed they are members of a cult we're trying to scold there are republican members of congress i know who clearly have lost their minds who just will not accept reality when it comes to the facts about donald trump i'm comparing the words of individual who would incite them radicalize somebody as osama bin laden did to what president prompted by transported are questioning the mainstream media sultan say their views and opinions should be heard. here like here in america all the brainwashing don't

agree with him people are brainwashed by the media. it to divide people that ever way you can beat this and setting down the. freedom of speech is an american people who voted for trope wanted to change it is cannot wipe out a whole 75000000 people that it will agree with you you can vote. for whoever you want to be afraid of having people come back we all need to come together unite. our good that they have identified from supporters as so dangerous in groups that they have to be prevented from forming in groups for the safety of the american people there's no there's no comparable message coming from the right about the left nothing from the right that would destroy the unity that we all should have and probably wish we did have to unity in america is long

gone because the people calling for the loudest are the same people who think we should go to jail we should have our guns taken from s.s. and we're the side that is not violent while they let their side do is violent rampage around the country for almost a full year they have absolutely spoken out of both sides of their mouths on this on the left and there's going to be a political price to pay for that. health officials in no way are adjusting by covert vaccination advice off the deaths of 13 elderly people possibly from side effects off the bank even a dose of the prize that finds a vaccine all those who died way care home residents aged over 80 it seems that some of these patients get such severe side effects in the form of fever and malays that it can make a very serious illness even more serious which may lead to death. well away lost his covert immunization program with the pfizer vaccine in late december and on

friday rolled out the madonna vaccine to nursing home residents are on the priority list or since then 29 people have been reported to have suffered side effects after getting the find the jap but the norwegian drugs that regulate it says it's not alarmed by the numbers saying the risks the low except among the most frail of patients and people with underlying health issues the medical and science experts we spoke to agree that vaccine benefits outweigh the risks but that cautions need it the most vulnerable. if you will for it is in norway believe that there may be a problem that it's right to be cautious that vaccine should only ever really be given to people who would fit well in any case if somebody who's seriously well or frail. really got me to think about giving them a back seat i think we're. back see is one of in terms of its effectiveness initially at least seems to be one of the best roxy is on the market

but how long will it last for remains to be seed but it is a good vaccine there is nothing wrong with it i don't think it's nothing to worry about i think i think that the scientists and the medical community in norway as well as the world community should look at those tests and see if there's something that they had in common there is a concern but i think at this point there and so many people have gotten this vaccine and not had any major problems i still haven't seen any legitimate evidence that this vaccination and the risk of the vaccination outweighs that benefit at this point. the dutch government has resigned over a scandal which saw thousands of innocent families torn apart after being wrongfully accused of child benefit for 3 years admin errors or heavy handed tax officials plunged households into ruin by forcing them to hand back welfare

payments artie's dubinsky is across friday's developments. it is already offered his resignation it to the king in the netherlands and that report said that it was both the government that he presided over this time but also the previous rigid administration that were all partly responsible for what happened now this all began back in 2012 when parents were regarded as. tax dorothy's and this was because they had sometimes just incorrectly filled out documents so when one part of the report that said some people missed signatures on those reports now strangely enough it was families that had dual nationality that seemed to be regarded with particular suspicion that just because that fact at one point presenting about $600.00 all of the family says that this was ethnic profiling now did nor was being implemented it was said paul with an eye for meaning they were

looking up simply people well the individual circumstances family slots that they are allowance sometimes with no reason given to them and other families who do already received benefits for being hounded then for the money to be paid back thousands and thousands of families impacted as we mentioned but the toll for many of these was that this false accusation the demands from paintings essentially just too much the enormous strain was one of the reasons i got divorced the tax office is very powerful without going to judge they dry you out they came to my house and took my refrigerator they took away my car they took 40 percent of my salary under the pressure of an overheated political need to fight fraud parents were falsely branded as willful proud status the victims were powerless against powerful institutions of the rule of law and did not receive the protection they deserved well margaret day has said the buck essentially stops we've his current

administration but he's not only made me the gay take n.p. until a passing new code. listen just for you if i can happen before those elections in march but he's also going to remain his party's leader despite the fact that he says that he's sort of shame on fit this scandal that some already questioning how costly just like we don't want to resign i did this scandal can remain in the job rightly so the good minute resigns innocent people have been criminalized their lives destroyed and the house has been incorrectly and incompletely informed about this but it's some believe bill if those responsible continue to be in party leaders well margaret just says he will be staying on in that can take a capacity in all domain to maintain the situation surrounding $1000.00 pandemic we felt the need to step down because of the extreme seriousness of the report by the bottom of the committee which has started and thorley and in-depth what

happened and we came to the conclusion that it's an affordable debt we stepped down and at the same time that we are still capable we think with full support of parliament we respectfully ask for support requests for the support him we think we will get it of course within the parameters of all the debates and discussions we will have respondent to be effective in fighting to come across it well he's it may change responsibility any did seem contrite in that press conference all friday afternoon so far his party still is polling high ahead to elections in march but it is yet to be seen how this scandal crucially light in fact. now there's been a show of military might from north korea a massive parades being held in the capital pyongyang to mark the end of the ruling party convention rows of marching soldiers were on display as well as arms

including new separate bullets that miss styles north korean media called the world's most. powerful weapons though western expose a still divided on how much of a threat they could pose. well they're healthy and nutritious and easy on the environment but what that be enough to give you an appetite to add mill worms to your daily diet but you are pin food safety authority has done research which says they are safe for humans to eat it's now up to e.u. members to decide whether the beetle larva can be served up this 1st european food safety just a risk assessment of an ensuite as normal food going to be the way for the 1st word approval or risk of the lesion is a disservice if the necessary step in the regulation of normal foods by supporting policymakers in the e.u. in making science bees decisions and ensuring the safety of consumers well if it

helps its your appetite the un's food and agriculture agency says in flex are a good source of protein and fiber the big benefit for the planet is that their production causes far less greenhouse gas emissions and there's also a much lower risk of the spread of animal to human diseases well so far so good but researches point to inconclusive studies which still leaves something of a sour taste more works needed they say on allergies like a lot of insects meal worms contain chitin which is perfectly safe for most of us to eat it's also found in shellfish which of course is a big no no for some allergic diners but perhaps it's another wriggling doubt to which might put off more sensitive palates. there are cognitive reasons derived from our social and cultural experiences the so-called yuck factor that makes the thought of eating insects repellents to many europeans with time exposures such entities game change lower costs and prices could enhance food security and new

demand will open economic opportunities to but these could also affect existing sectors. well let's discuss this further shall we it with our guests way i could give them say is an animal rights company campaign our patrick holden is a dairy farmer on founding director of britain's sustainable food trust and ray will foot the founder of britain's largest independent food bank and author of food bank of britain thank you all for joining us on the program this evening our 1st question to guilin please now if it's better for the planet and could significantly reduce the number of animals found for food are you on the boat well if you can reduce the number of troops from other more. fish differently can we have to keep in mind the number of insects. your own food with high you saw in the case of needs must be

a little bit different because. many more incidents on the one which can lay your several 100 of your grandma. oh ray as an easy food source what it concern you that something like mail worms would only really find their way into the cheaper end of the food supply an ingredient where consumers might not quite know what they're getting. well i think britain misses the wider debate issue really more than all people have stocks. easy meat for all sorts of different reasons traditionally it was because about what exploitation an animal crawling to karate and increasing now it's more of the environmental impact the climate and of course be following in the absence of the damage to adults so i think the issue is not about what people eat is how it's fall to the hand it's produce and i think that this new needs source is sort of almost

mainstream already we have all these t.v. shows like in the jungle where people eat parks i think we wish to many looks a bit like a bark and so i think that people's taste is changing people are more open to new types of food and i think people being more open to a box in approaching for our new would cats dogs or baby lambs patrick environmentally friendly easier to father is a theater affair. so i'm i'm familiar with middle because i used to use them for fishing bait and to treat my pets where as a boy and it's it's good that the european regulators say but that doesn't mean so it's right or sustainable in my opinion and i know this is controversial i think we're much better off eating the animals which can graze the pastures which predominates in europe and aligning our diets with sustainable production systems

that's the crucial thing it's not about the co it's the oh and it's the same with all animals we need to make sure that we don't eat animals for intensive farming but if that's the state it will regenerate evolving practices that's the best protein to eat and personally i do we need worms. and to give them please that i expect in the world to go vegetarian or vegan is not entirely realistic is it people i changing their ways in habits more than as that though so chaotic eating insects be a gateway so great a change. i wish i could say yes to his question worse than for. eating insects is just perpetrates yes meat is necessary in the end because insects are meats so i think we would be but or going vegetarian if insect consumption can lead to regions around disney later on it's a good thing but i'm not true it's going to work. ok what do you make of what

patrick said it is not about the cow it's about the how. so. it's kind of will because i mostly who are humans we have to divide our meat consumption money several times like we have to needs in terms less meats because it's officially cows are very common intensive. majority of carbon footprint of animals comes from bringing them to know i chose cheap. animals or some of these are young woman needs to trust reduce consumption of mountains you know you agree. it would be better for any animal welfare one to few hours arsal years. intensively farmed animals or a formal just a welfare perspective you'd better them's resident and us are confronting but for the. claimant suspect it's the worst school there is

a trade off to here but we have to hold our consumption. i don't think that's right actually i think that a lot of environmentalist think that the cow is worse but the environment recent research oxygen diversity is suggestive that the calculations that food and agriculture organization the u.n. organization has made about the contribution that ruminant and what that's cows and sheep make to wards climate change is being exaggerated so actually if we've cracked you're in the way it which cows grazing pasture could contribute towards locking up carbon into saw that cancels out their meat 'd they know bish's cows may even be carbon positive in their core part of the solution if we want to eat a sustainable diet get me a grasp read. any time overbuilt like you very much. quite a lot of people i know actually were so there at the thought of

a tear in sex but it's a staple in many countries so is it time for everybody to just get over their squeamishness i think we really need to sort of review this illusion that people have problems with those that the market is approaching many people that buy protein drinks across europe at the moment get a protein drink which says it contains quite often that protein is produced from insects more and more people are beginning to see them in shit in trendy parts of london now you can buy. chocolate flavored and ginger flavored salty caramel locusts and all sorts of things i think the issue is about having a 3rd that's sustainable 'd that is affordable has a relatively negative impacts we've got a rising population globally we have real real concerns about food security and we have very real issues around the supply of water going forward and i think although

i personally wouldn't be the box i don't believe in eating units of meat for really i do think there is a place for this type of protein and it's not just weather so it's a pet food but i think the larger population for a balanced diet and for all those people that may say oh we're going what's he be going we all only want to be a vegetarian i think that song would like the option of taking this type approach to paying for looked for the balance and also for people's well being patrick let's consider the wider repercussions here i mean what would happen to the livestock farmers and jobs if there was a a greater well to move towards eating insects have a council. well exactly and actually great thing livestock have always for one of the key elements of sustainable diets and in answer to the question which everyone's asking know what should i eat to be sustainable and healthy i think

that's a surprising degree of alignment between the 3 of us we all agree that we should phase out all 'd intensive chicken pork and dairy farms and i think the right of people to eat a vegetarian or beat a diet they want to course is absolutely to be respected but if if we live in a country where it's possible to eat grass bred reet probably grass clones which predominate princes in the u.k. 2 thirds of our farm blabbers grassland that's actually part of the solution so we just need to be able to differentiate between the 2 kinds of livestock the problem ones and the ones which are actually contributing towards solving the challenge of climate change. let's say easier for wealthier people to consider going meat free but what about making sure everyone gets fed isn't this an affordable solution. most times of people cheap food are earth truly so or most people in the words rely

on means and stuff like this which can provide all essential amino acids your needs diets you need and want protein so much why am canary against your know how difficult it is to get a. start with. oh you just have to eat one portion of being every day the rest of them you know or to get to laze in 07 hours you will be promoted by the food so all you feel like you know what to say and i think there's a science to challenge what you're saying. there's one point i think that's really being missed here i think that is that if we end up with a box which oh relatively cheap to produce and very profitable we could end up with a race to the bottom with animal welfare so we could see light we're getting with. food in america we could actually find that the welfare of animals of paws an afterthought and the growing exploitation of mass produce meat whether it

be sure whether it's a power whether it's sheep and goats is used to bring down the cost because the price of insect procida will be cheaper than cows and sheep and i do worry about how that would impact on the farmers robbing diversifying to what areas like farms get with organic whether they were moving to insects or whether they would be tempted to just produce meat cheaper and cheaper and the cost would be cruelty to on was more negative impact on the environment and i think that scenario a real concern given what you were great know about i think it's a political issue we have to phase out for to farming industry which. we have the states help to give to move subsidies for instance to wilt per hour is to farm something else enters a plan protein market is a truly

a much bigger isn't it in 6th person markets and is going to grow bigger because what is key is observed food chain makes is such that it's in sync protein will only be irking efficient groups who consume so because insofar foods plants if we directly it's a glance into always be official. at present the get. go ahead well we need to get a sustainable way and to rebuild the carbon in the soil which has been lost or it might fall big like time we need to reduce makes foaming which is based on crop rotations with the production it's a building a goalie and grew up in clover and the only way that we can turn the graphics over to food that we can eat is through grazing line. to get the rope to the beacon to the bench parents watching this i say absolutely perfect but to the moment it was you can eat grass but it's not stopped for lamb and for the last 2000 click

conscience patrick that's the smell when mr that is all about branding you know we think is no one's a catchy tasty new name and people won't skulk slim up what do you think well and i don't think ethically against eating be a well i don't personally fancy it but i also think we need to look at the environmental issue about well what the feds on the federal food waste so i guess that's quite ecological but no i'm afraid i'm stuck with even though i've been involved in those i've said what i was a child i'm talking with a little bit of the yacht factor simply i don't think they're going to pop for the major part of the future diet of 21st century humanity. i re do think people eyepatch will be changing that mindset in the coming years. i think you will i mean running the food bank at the moment one of this crisis with finding you tell you we obviously is he says rounds through supply of food gazza slithery it's food

delays at the docks or whether it's actually the closure kappos of restaurants which millions but many of the places that normally supply food banks with fresh food project is suddenly drawing up a very important. and you know drawing of tomatoes which is something that it is or was not a bygone age so i think that that option is one that is very much of now there's lots of investment going into it the article you were referring to highlights the shoes of the hedge fund investment which is going to the sector and i don't think it's a matter of if y. of way is just a matter of it's coming down the line it's already here and if they what if they give it a trendy name it will be coax come something that more people accept in the burgers and that's up in the horse and in the lunchbox to finance it i'd love to ask all of

you to test give us that one a final thought to you again place.