between the risk and benefit because we our assessment tells us the vaccination the huge actually the vaccine it's better that you take the risk for the coffee the night you can see it because we do have the herd immunity you the whole word the virus got a chance to be mutated you are they go to 5 or 6 you take you to viruses we loudly immunity pressure the hours we will keep you katie this is our mari so you general we sued to take any you think there's a risk for vaccination rather than wheat we cannot wait at a more. comments you may have been exaggerated in the in the media about your concern over the pfizer vaccine that certainly is 0 evidence that that in norway are directly linked to the m r n a vaccine. why do you think there have been reports of

your concern over them or in a vaccine i'm seeing because of this the 1st time for a marni agent exactly to the human being body so we don't know what happened but the least a carrot the technology tells us well it's ok but to be honest because of this the 1st time for the healthy population i was seeing we have to be careful but in effect we should all take in how do you account for this very different efficacy rate amongst the different vaccines on offer because pfizer claims 1990 percent more than 90 percent of africa's a sign of a corona back only 50.4 percent effective according to the brazilian trials. well you know i think this is all these experiments start so quickly if we have enough time we sort of take any vaccine takes about a decade or few years but this time less than

a year again i already measure i want to really i want to really address this is a risk at benefit balance we have to take this risk openness and you personally took that risk tell me why you took an experimental vaccine very early on. not even as a double blind trial well you know because i'm a professional i was trained as a vet immediately initially i did a lot of veterinary vaccines myself but we prepared rex it would have assumed many technical technological our lives we develop a vaccine i believe all those lied you know it's a good enough for you to take this risk if i don't take this how can you pursue it the public to believe there's a charmes to get the mars done but of course vaccination means more mutations as the variants that survive vaccination process i mean what is your take on the

effectiveness of vaccines given the number of mutations that have appeared the british mutation the one in brazil the one in south africa. we don't know at least that the courage to leave the church tells us at the moment all those me tases there might be a small. effect i don't see anything you can see as there's a very big effect from the current literature of a cause if you have the immunity you might approach the iris to mutate but once you get the herd to humanity by vaccination and the iris will have no chance to survive to transmit between armaan populaces but the chinese center for disease control is not yet tested there sign a back vaccine against the british mutation which has a much greater transmission rate i understand the transmission rate increase is

actually worse for humanity than the lethality rate it's that transmission rate increase that is much more dangerous because the chinese vaccine even work against the british coronavirus i think this is something we are working on it we haven't got the results yet this is the karma jerry is need at this level coverage every story so you are expecting the wire one of the viruses there so they try to survive and if they want to try to survive they will mutate find a way to mutate to make sure they kind of survive but they cannot be more lethal to the human to use otherwise if they kill all the host whole kind of virus or survive so this is the strategy for the why risk someone i either hoebel population . now it's a year ago tomorrow that the 1st case was reported in the united states just take us back i mean when did anyone get. coronavirus before the case is

reported in wu hammer i understand on the 17th of november 29th team south china morning post reported in whom a province when did it 1st appear in china i know the the world health organization are in we're on right now. i think that we isolated the virus early in january from my china c.d.c. colleague i don't you credit me we work together very hard we call the virus early morning all at night on january 6th and 7th we work day and night this is the 1st time we saw how what the virus looks like on cost because the new technology so we see the sequencing of the virus follow whole genome we finished up all these you know with the awake when we were reported on cause if you want to discuss these from the very beginning retrospectively maybe you china we already see some cases some suspected cases because it's not confirmed we always have

a lot who are. acute severe acute respiratory uni's also called a sorry so many sorry cases every year ours of the flu so many viruses there i think you know for roughly about r a marvel hopper mouth you know the clinician they saw something but there are not many groups all clusters there and oh suddenly by the ad over the top. and we were called we went to the field and you know we collected all these they better and of course you know find a way we realize it's a carnal iris a we share of data that they thought was available our own path january you know you the change shut that's apparently is that is that the shanghai public health clinical center publishing the genome. no that's you there to shut is published by china c.d.c. used to to a virus the chinese kind of assizes at

a chinese academy or might cause i.z.'s you can do a check of the cheetah that's a can of january i think you it was reported here it was reported here that the shanghai public health medical center. released the genome and it was kind of shut down that was one of the newspapers here while you know you have a lot of rumors you have a lot of it give you know something different from from here you go and look ask laska pfizer ask a fire and of buy antec they direct that they give you a vaccine go and a check with them where did they get the sequels to sensitize the gene to deliver their a marni vaccine i think that's very clear they claim either are you their publication new in the journal magazine they claim they dolly the secrecies from the cheese that is a global initiative or all you friends of ours sharing is called it's us that's case that. organization for the word to share the you for the virus but

let me myself we together with organizer of that organization we put the sequence there and it got you know everything shared with everybody if you want to ask anyone who developed the vaccine from fire you know you we started to our talk with the pfizer rexy. the world and the world is thankful for it but there is certainly a lot of rumor as as you know what have you made of mike pompei or the outgoing secretary of state or donald trump claiming all this stuff about a lab or a tree what is they name check something called the are a t g 13 a bat coronavirus related to cove ed what have you made of these claims by the u.s. state department from the outgoing. trumpet ministrations saying that they were

conducting experiments on a corona virus like virus before. the w.h.o. . was even talking about the release of the virus. i think you know. because they're always argument about whether or not and the whole lot aside his truth work on the virus so to me says a 1000 iris you know there is. for example is a night he a king you friend of iris secrecy of that virus genome now as well that resurfaces eyes we have the live virus from 98 he myra's because we haven't got it to us unaided before but to be set aside even to technologically you know other the streets stringent a strict. bio safety regulatory and you can't do that but there's always the argument as a father i a.t.g. 13 so this is the virus is

a genome and the one ever grow this virus no other kind of good the virus you know most of the virus from bats you cannot grow them there's no a live virus for the t.g. 30 you know we have always a limitation about our breed so we think we can borrow from the commonsense we can learn from the knowledge we can learn from some science we know but by the head look at what we are facing up our current 90 you my opinion after a year maybe there is no intermediate host of reservoir host is a psychic question carly deny having a scar the night he looks like it doesn't follow the rules we copied from our common sense or not he's so this is why i'm think i'm thinking leave the orangey leave the evolution of the comedy down i worse for scientists to get it resolved

but of course but of course it's not scientists it is politicians that have been talking about it do you think it's something out of echo of the cold war when mike bump said. that. really the wu hand institute and was conducting experiments and not only that the press here was talking about a journalist jang jan put in prison for reporting there were an outbreak in the 1st place all these stories in nato countries do you see that as the politicization of coronavirus you know from her bikini all these other break myself i was attacked you know because of and the 24 she was attacked so many of the people robert of redfield the us that the chief all u.s. cities it was attacked so by the side he's are attacked it's because of that you felt that you know you thought i make a card over new. i should i make

a joke because you for missing and i'm easy for macey misfit either a poverty of the public he said they don't understand what's going on here so i think all those claims is baseless joins i'll stop you there more from the director general of the chinese center for disease control george will go after this break.

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things like researchers all over the world are trying to determine the many pains and other problems and then turn it into numbers. throughout the day. various sources reports that just leave for 35 percent of recovered patients. there have been many complaints of vision loss joint pain and fatigue in the us these patients are referred. to last post coded long whole list i talked to multiple doctors and my doctor and they said we have a feeling that you're going to have a hard time in recovery you're going to be one of those people that they consider a long haul or.

welcome back i'm still here with the director general of china's center for disease control professor george for gout i don't know whether biden will retain tony but your counterpart robert redfield quoted in the new yorker magazine on the 3rd of january 2020 saying there was no evidence of human to human transmission that's what you told him on the phone is that the new yorker getting it wrong rover red rover red film getting it wrong because as a d.g. fall 2 countries we keep. communicate to each other i don't think that you know that can be called so you didn't you didn't say that. we had it's t.v. show discussion i don't think you know that's a subject we had been discussing but but i think the reason was for the

quote in say the new yorker and then it was reproduced was look here is the head of the c.d.c. in china giving wrong information to his counterpart in the united states when he knew there was some evidence however little it was back then or human to human transmission of coronavirus. you remember our i gave the crack to you for basically emaar call you for everybody you know europe you the us where the mosque it's published in size but you know size journal and you remember a sow's yet lou not many people wearing the mask you know. is there's a lot over the rumors a lot oh for you see from a set and you were talking about mask before the world health organization i understand it was advise him to wear masks just give us some practical tips i mean that there are so many issues ventilation in blocks of apartments now that we know

more and more about how droplets and spread people should wear masks and it's when you do back the british government's view about dumitru distancing what other since you were the 1st to talk about the necessity of mostyn even explain why it may be worse in european countries in the united states than in southeast asia one of the tips can you give wary of a mask watch for your distance in the washer your head more importantly. you keep communicating with open minded we've everybody you the world tried to address that was ugly on you know you can see the successful control in china it's it's here obs why are the break we have some small waves in china but they are all well could talk at the moment we have several small regular cases other breaks in china we are working very hard to get it done by the world to sort of work together if we don't work together the virus works together to get more putin's around the

world thank you yeah in fact your per capita rate when compared to britain i understand john hopkins says you have point $34.00 deaths per 100000 we have 135 here in the u.k. you might as well not have coronavirus in china according to the figures. how important is track and trace britain has given tens of billions of pounds to private companies for track and trace it hasn't worked many say and that's why britain is going for vaccination as the main plank of its response do we have to do we worry should we have tracking trains anymore because no one even talks about dragon trades arguably here in britain anymore. though you think you you buy i think you lose already lost your child's father tracking and it's crazy but i don't think you know if you work very hard and there's the your way why is that i think why china is so successful because we from a verdict guinea we spend

a lot of time to address. a community level critical you know for the you folks a disease control so you are stress must be focused on the community level because achilles the the community so we we we put our model our 1st you know our community level control because we have the fall high ranking systems father c.d.c. says from accounting for the perfect or for the province and also to the national so those 3 a levels of they all based community level especially the county level we have a sunni people working the community level if the community public health so. professionals they made a really good job they are the key person to do the trees and that. you're talking about communities the whole development of capitalism here in nato

nations is to individualize and create the all important right here in the video arguably at the expense of society and community you see that as one factor in why coronavirus is so much worse in western capitalist countries. i think that could be one of the factors you know of course that's could be a very very important factor the chinese communist party obviously understands important global cooperation is in the game more propaganda we're getting here that scientists who work for you kind of they they couldn't get their internet working they weren't able to cooperate with other scientists because internet was shut down in move on and in other parts of china where scientists wanted to look at information available on the internet about. no actually you know ike i keep having a like what are you do you are to me we are here you know not caught or we keep

communicate you we not you side china you know we're all my colleagues you know worked are almost to be audited for last year i am very almost every day every night because of the time robes i have i have a. room all the other card or service with a circle me to keep meetings all these i don't i don't think it's true so you look at all my colleagues you know you kate you know us we communicate you very well so if you're a scientist watching this you should be able to access the peer reviewed papers relating to your medical visibly yes now tell me about the long coded as it is known increasingly we're getting reports here in britain as i say the country worst affected in terms of global death rates per capita what is long with exactly or how prevalent is it in china that's

a very good were a lot lot more from you coast to chronic we don't want to see the chronic because we don't have enough heart to see how slow whole chronic carbonite you were. you know because i said from the common sense from the knowledge this is an acute respiratory uni's want to see acute respiratory uni's we think we will recover completely what we saw from 'd the collagen i.v. you the whole were you could you would and you the u.k. some patients where they recover the skill has some elite symptoms these 3 or you know someone they might the problem with the sleeping some are the model has some problem or we've there 'd and you know hard also this is a skill not

a lawyer enough fast to see whether or not a common i.q. will be a chronic disease at least it's long enough that much longer than that peut respiratory illness and you're seeing that in china yes we also see a lot of it you know that i also we have so many cases i don't want to be recovered at that of the you know back to be positive so all those are really made scientific question you know how many percent of cases. are you detecting long i don't have the numbers for the cases but my colleague with a published paper you the legacy it publishes of about one month ago you can go i read that for the number well aside from a long covert hopefully covert 19 is arguably finished in china how is the c.d.c. focusing on the issue of climate change and new coronaviruses because we're talking

about bats rain forest clearance is connected of course to zoonotic transmission. yeah we have would have been talking a lot of time apart the new chief of viruses a remote you could he sees and also area by they want to address that one health that i mean is we have 2 good medical whether a agriculture environment or science everything together to tackle this problem carbonite he is a good example we need different sectors to work together you know of all these you can love the coke i do you might touch it you are meant to change that have to have some effect for even you know for all those. you folks are sick easy's think about the bets you know you know once you have all these when the power and when the power remember we those who play they kill i'm not hopeful bets i know that's all you the red hot so again we cannot work together 'd to tackle carbonite you i knew

i was alone we got to put everything together and to tackle the problem weight one helos. concept when some wind power is connected to the values of the rest yeah it's not connected to coronavirus. now that is special not particularly carnal virus but you know it because because of that a big plate you know the one lead one that many are roddy you know the birds or a lot awful flying birds they might be killed by that you know no one really is seriously but look at a lot of a scientific correct cult already there so that's an example you must destroy some of the nietzsche for some why the animals include the pets obviously large scale farming fossil fuels arguably more important than the the blades that i'm going to just ask you what advice would you give to our viewers in western europe in the

americas who watch the news in here conspiracy theories about chinese weapons manufacturing coronavirus and now here in britain the foreign secretary is saying giant reserve torturing we go muslims and then lots of reports of accusations of genocide why would china even one to help in the fight against coronavirus if it involved in mass murder well why otherwise fall there would be a car at least a chance to see the reality. though didn't believe all these convert rumors come in a web come you know you i've come to have them have a look what was on each one so open us chinese piracy and a collaboration are the key fall large us europe us and china and of the rest of the word but also you know for anyone coward all they were we are needy

in the small the leach we got to work together you know like from a herd of again you ask me you say something bad about a 5 the next and no i give to see anything bad i'm m c we have to be careful but it doesn't help when the chinese embassy in the united states is talking about using science to an oppressed people they said studies showing the process of eradicating extremism the minds of legal women in general and where emancipated and gender equality reproductive health were promoted making the no longer baby making machines that show he doesn't help i well i don't go on are you talking about i never heard about that you know at last all the public recently tried to others that the size leave that you felt that meek leave the boomers out because we need to work together to get the virus and dot to suppress the lara's director general

george thank you and that's it for the show will be back on the saturday until then keep in touch via your facebook instagram sound cloud and telegraph. nuclear power become a battleground in the u.s. in vermont people have demanding the shutdown of a local plant for my yankee is right now my focus because it's a very dangerous oh no clare power plant the owner is attempting to run the reactor beyond its operational limit this case just sort of puts a magnifying glass on where's the power in this country where's it going is it

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