i'm after a time see welcome to another lockdown edition of going underground today on the day the joe biden is in or be rated as the 46th president of the united states of america in a ceremony yarded by $25000.00 troops in the u.s. capitol washington d.c. you know comes just hours after global debate over a pardon for julian assange the world's most famous journalist and publisher locked up in a maximum security prison here in london but hanging over biden just as it did don't trump will be the global coronavirus pandemic that has killed at least 2000000 people all around the world joining me now from china is the director general of china's center for disease control professor george frugality thanks so much for coming on i'm going to tell you that 2000000 dead britain are reportedly the worst affected in the world they're going ahead with vaccines and we are at the vanguard

of the mass coronavirus injection campaign why are you concerned about the vaccines currently on the market i don't think i'm worried about the back seat you know when you're talking about a vaccine this is the only weapon we'll get an a viruses or any you know kind of a path as it is out so i'm not worried about the vaccine the same for the coffee that 98 is the 1st time ever the home of beings could use the vaccine against car the virus is specified according to 19 everybody already knows we have a so many are new and well a colleague and i think so because we have so many are new and we want to time or actually you know. you checked it to the. so-called healthy population we are worried whether or not there might be some other words event so this is a everybody's worried all ever. while you are talking about why we are to you these

because that's a no other choice we are leaving all these ers we are also working very hard try to develop balance between the risk and benefit because we our assessment tells us the vaccination the huge actually the vaccine it's better that you take the risk for the coffee the night you can see because we do have the herd immunity you the whole word the virus got a chance to be mutated you are they go to 5 or 6 you take you to viruses we loudly immunity pressure the hours we will keep mutating this is our mari so you general we sued to take abby you think there's a risk for vaccination rather than wheat we cannot wait at a more. comments you may have been exaggerated in the in the media about your concern over the pfizer vaccine that certainly is 0 evidence that that in norway

are directly linked to the m r n a vaccine. why do you think there have been reports of your concern over them are in a vaccine i'm seeing because of this the 1st time for a marni agent exactly to the human being body so we don't know what happened but at least a carrot the technology tells us you know it's ok but to be honest because of this the 1st time for the healthy population i was seeing we have to be careful. but in effect we should all take in how do you account for this very different efficacy rate amongst the different vaccines on offer because pfizer claims 1990 percent more than 90 percent have a z. sign of a corona back only 50.4 percent effective according to the brazilian trials.

oh well you know i think this is all these experiments start so quickly if we have enough time we sort of take any vaccine takes about a decade or few years by this time less than a year again ira to measure i want to really i want to really address this is a risk that benefit well is we have to take this risk openness and you personally took that risk tell me why you took an experimental vaccine very early on. not even as a double blind trial well you know because i'm a professional i was trained as a vet immediately initially i did a lot of veterinary vaccines myself but we prepared rexy we have so many technical technological lives we develop vaccines i believe all those lied you know it's a good enough for you to take this risk if i don't take these how can you pursue it

the public to believe there's a charmes to get the mars done but of course vaccination means more mutations as the variants that survive vaccination process i mean what is your take on the effectiveness of vaccines given the number of mutations that have appeared the british mutation the one in brazil the one in south africa. we don't know at the least or the courage to leave the church house us at the moment all those me tases there might be a small. effect i don't see anything you can see as there is a very big effect from the current literature of a cause if you have the immunity you might approach the iris to mutate but once you get the her to unity by vaccination and the iris will have a new chance to survive to transmit between armaan populaces but the chinese center

for disease control has not yet tested their sign of back vaccine against the british mutation which has a much greater transmission rate i understand the transmission rate increase is actually worse for humanity than the lethality rate it's that transmission rate increase that is much more dangerous because the chinese vaccine even work against the british coronavirus i think this is something we are working on it we haven't got the results yet this is the karma jerry does need of these little coverage every story so you are just back to the wire once the iris is there so they try to survive and if they want to try to survive they will mutate to find a way to mutate to make sure they can survive but they cannot be more lethal to the human to use otherwise if they kill all the host how can the viruses survive so this is the strategy for the why risk someone i either whole population. now

it's a year ago tomorrow that the 1st case was reported in the united states just take us back i mean when did anyone get. coronavirus before the case is reported in wu hand i understand on the 17th of november 29th team south china morning post reported in who may province when did it 1st appear in china i know the the world health organization are in we're on right now. i think that we isolated the virus early in january from my china c.d.c. colleague i don't you couldn't meet we work together very hard we call the virus early morning at night on january 6th and 7th we worked day and night this is the 1st time we saw whole what the virus looks like a cause because the new technology so we see the sequencing of all 'd the virus follow whole genome we finished up all these you know with the awake when we were reported on cause if you want to discuss these from the very beginning

retrospectively. you china we already see some cases some suspected cases because it's not confirmed we always have a lot who are. acute severe acute respiratory uni's also called the sorry so many sorry cases every year are severely flu so many viruses there i think you know for roughly about r a marvel hopper mouth you know the clinician they saw something but there are not many groups or clusters there and oh suddenly by the ad over the top. and we were called we went into the field and you know we collected all these dates are and of course you know 5 the way we realize it's a carnal iris a we shared a vapor that they for was available our own path january you know you the change shut that's apparently is that is that the shanghai public health clinical center

publishing the genome. no that's you there to shut is published by china c.d.c. used to virus the chinese kind of assizes and the chinese are kind of element because i.z.'s you can go and check of the cheetah that's a can of january i think you it was reported here it was reported here that the shanghai public health medical center. release the genome and it was going to shut down one of the newspapers here while you know you have a lot of rumors you have a lot of would give you know something different from from here you go and look ask laska pfizer ask a fire and a buy in tech they deliver that they give you a vaccine go and a check with them where did they get the sequels to sensitize the gene to deliver their a marni vaccine i think that's very clear they claim either are you their publication new in the journal medicine they claim they dolly the secrecies from the cheese

that is a global initiative or all you friends of ours they timesharing it's called it's us that's case that. organization for the word to share the you for the virus but let me myself we together with organizer of that organization we put the sequence there and it got you know everything shared with everybody if you want to ask anyone who develop a vaccine from fire you know you we started to our congress with the pfizer rexy. the world and the world is thankful for it but there is certainly a lot of rumor as as you know what have you made of mike one peo the outgoing secretary of state a dollar trump claiming all this stuff about a lab or a tree what is they name check something called the ari t g 13

a bat coronavirus related to cove ed what have you made of these claims by the u.s. state department from the outgoing. trumpet ministrations saying that they were conducting experiments on a corona virus like a virus before. the w.h.o. . was even talking about the release of the right of our. i think you know. because they're always argument about whether or not and the whole lot aside his truth work on the virus so to me says a 1000 iris you know there is. for example is a night he a king you friend of iris after secrecy of that virus genome now as well that resurface eyes we have the live virus from a humorous because we haven't got to isolate it before but if we set aside easy to technologically you know other the streets stringent

a strict. bio safety regulatory and you can do that but there's always the argument as a father i a.t.g. 13 so this is the virus is a genome the one ever early this virus no one kind of good the virus you know most of the virus from bats you cannot grow them there's no a live virus for the t.g. 30 you know we have always a limitation about our breed so we think we can borrow from the commonsense we can learn from the knowledge we can learn from some science we know but by the head look at what we are facing up our current night here in my opinion after a year maybe there is no intermediate host of reservoir host is a psychic question to deny having a scar the night he looks like it doesn't follow the rules we copied from our

common sense or not he's so this is why i'm think i'm thinking leave the orange and leave the evolution of the comedy that i was for scientist to get it resolved but of course but of course it's not scientists it is politicians that have been talking about it do you think it's some sort of echo of the cold war when mike bump said. that clearly the wu han institute was conducting experiments and not only that the press here was talking about a journalist jang jan put in prison for reporting the wuhan outbreak in the 1st place all these stories in nato countries do you see that as the politicization of coronavirus. you know from a verb beginning all these other break myself i was attacked you know because of the clinton folks who also attacked so many of the people robert of russia filled

the us that e.g. fall u.s. cities he was attacked so by the side he's are attacked it's because of that you fight that you know you fight i make. it over new. because you fight me and they me see for raising misfit either the poverty or the public he said they don't notice that what's going on here so i think all those clay is basically george i'll stop you there more from the director general of the chinese center for disease control george will go after this break. social media platforms today function as the public square key to almost everything we do in society the same plug and you keep pumping if you essentially disappear you should probably get companies to come visit time.

right now and they'll. bring in people who are overweight or obese it's profitable to self. and sugary insultingly i don't think it's not at the individual level it's not individual well power and if we go on believing that never change this obesity epidemic that industry has been influencing very deeply the medical and scientific establishment. some of what's driving the obesity epidemic it's corporate profit. welcome back. i'm still here with the director general of china's center for disease control professor george for gout i don't know whether biden will retain tony but your counterpart robert redfield quoted in the new yorker magazine on the

3rd of january 2020 saying there was no evidence of human to human transmission that's what you told him on the phone then is that the new yorker getting it wrong robert redford robert redfield getting it wrong because as a d.g. for 2 countries we keep. communicate to each other i do think that you know that can be colorful so you didn't you didn't say that. we hadn't keep the discussion i don't think you know that's a subject we had been discussing. but but i think the reason was for the quote in say the new yorker and then it was reproduced with look here is the head of the c.d.c. in china giving wrong information to his counterpart in the united states when he knew there was some evidence however little it was back then or human to human transmission of coronavirus you'll remember our i gave credit to you for basically

emaar call you for everybody you know europe and you know us where the mosque it's published in size and you know size journal and you remember a sow's ear yet not many people wearing a mask you know. it's there's a lot over the rumors a lot whole form you see from a set. and you were talking about mask before the world health organization i understand there was advise him to wear masks just give us some practical tips i mean there are so many issues ventilation in blocks of apartments now that we know more and more about how droplets are spread people should wear masks and it's when you do back the british government you're about to meet a distance saying what other since you were the 1st to talk about the necessity of mostyn even explain why it may be worse in european countries in the united states than in southeast asia one of the tips can you give wary of

a mask watch for your taste in the washer your head more importantly. you keep communicating we open minded we've everybody you know we're not trying to address that was ok on you know you kind of see the successful control in china it's here. are the great we have some small waves in china but they are all well cool at the moment we have several small regular casey's other breaks in china we are working very hard to get it done but the word sort of works together if we don't work together the virus works together to get more people to around the world yet in fact your per capita rates when compared to britain i understand john hopkins says you have point 34 deaths per 100000 we have 135 here in the u.k. you might as well not have coronavirus in china according to the figures how important is tracking trace britain is given tens of billions of pounds to private

companies from track and trace it hasn't worked many say and that's why britain is going for vaccination as the main plank of its response do we have to do we worried should we have tracking trains anymore because no one even talks about tracking trace arguably here in britain anymore. though you think it you you you buy i think you lose already lost your child's father tracking and it's crazy but i don't think you know if you work very hard and there's the your way why is that i think why china is so successful because we from a very beginning we spent a lot of time to address the community level crypto you know for the you folks a disease control so you are stress must be focused on a community level because at least you the community so we we we put our model our

1st you know our community level control because we have the fall high ranking systems for the c.d.c. says from accounting for the preferred term for the province and also for the national so those 3 a levels they are all based community level especially the county level we have a sunni people working the community level if the community probably health so. professionals they made a really good job they are the key person to do the trees and that. you're talking about communities the whole development of capitalism here in nato nations is to individualize and create the all important right here individual arguably at the expense of society and community you see that as one factor in why coronavirus is so much worse in western capitalist countries. i think

that could be one of the factors you know of course that's could be a very very important factor that the chinese communist party obviously understands important global cooperation is in the game more propaganda we're getting here that scientists who work for you kind of they they couldn't get their internet working they weren't able to cooperate with other scientists because internet was shut down in move on and in other parts of china where scientists wanted to look at information available on the internet about coronavirus no actually you know ike i keep how do you like what are you do you are to me we are here you know i'm not cut we keep communicate you we not you side china you know we're all my colleagues you know worked are almost to the audience for last year our area almost every day every night because of the time robes i have i have a. room all any other card or service with

a circle me to keep meetings all these i don't i don't think it's true so you look at all my colleague in the u.k. you know us we communicate you very well so if you're a scientist watching this you should be able to access the peer reviewed papers relating to your medical visibly yes now tell me about the long who with as it is known increasingly we're getting reports here in britain as i say the country worst affected in terms of global death rates per capita what is long with exactly or how prevalent is it in china that's a very good were a lot lot wofully you coast to chronic we don't want to see the chronic because we don't have enough heart to see whole slow whole chronic

carbonite here we already. you know because i said from the common sense from the knowledge this is an acute respiratory uni's want to see acute rest myra uni's we think we will recover completely or what we saw from 'd a colleague the night he did our homework you could you walk and you the u.k. some patients where they recover they still have some elite symptoms these 3 or you know someone they might the problem with the sleeping some are the model has some problem or we've there 'd you know hard also this is a skill not a lawyer enough for us to see whether or not a common 1000 it will be a chronic disease at least it's long enough that much longer than that if you'd respond to reach your knees and you're seeing that in china yes we also see a lot of comment you know that i also we have so many cases and one of the

recovered at that of the you know back to be positive so all those are really made scientific question you know how many percent of cases. are you detecting wrong i don't have the numbers for the cases but my colleague that they publish a paper you the legacy it publishes of about one month ago you can go i read that for the number well aside from a long covert hopefully coded 19 is arguably finished in china how is the c.d.c. focusing on the issue of climate change and new coronaviruses because we're talking about bats rain forest clearance is connected of course to zoonotic transmission. yeah we have been have been talking a lot of time apart the new chief of viruses a remote you could he says and also everybody want to address that one health that i mean is we have 2 good medical whether

a agriculture environment or size everything together to tackle this problem carbonite he is a good example we need different sectors to work together you know of all these you can love a coke i do you might touch it you are meant to change that have to have some effect for even you know for all those. you folks are sick easy's think about the bets you know you are one of you have all these when the power when the power remember with those a plate they kill i'm not hopeful bets i know that's all you the red hot so again we cannot work together to tackle carbonite you i knew i was alone we got to put everything together and to tackle the problem weight that one helos. concept with some wind power is connected to the rest yeah i thought

connecting coronavirus. not at the special not particularly colonel morris but you know it because because of that a big plate you know the one lead one that really are roddy you know the birds or a lot awful flying birds they might be killed by that you know no one really clicked these seriously but look at a lot of the side chick correct cults already there so that's an example you must destroy some of the nietzsche's for some why the animals include the pets obviously large scale farming fossil fuels arguably more important than the the blades that i've got i just ask you what advice would you give to our viewers in western europe in the americas who watch the news and hear conspiracy theories about chinese weapons manufacturing coronavirus and now course here in britain the foreign secretary is saying giant here is that torturing we go muslims and then lots of reports of accusations of genocide why would china even one to help in the fight

against coronavirus if it's involved in mass murder well why otherwise for that or to be a car at least to check to see that reality. though don't believe all these conduit rumors that come in a webcam you know you come to him on how to look what was going on in china so open is transparency and a collaboration are the key for our large us europe us and china and of the rest of the word but also you know for everyone covered all the earth we are needy in a small village we got to work together you know like from a bird of a guinea you ask me you say something bad about a father beck said no i give to see anything bad i'm i'm see we have to be careful but it doesn't help when the chinese embassy in the united states is talking about

using science to. oppress people they said studies show in the process of eradicating extremism the minds of we go women in general and we're emancipated in gender equality reproductive help are promoted making the no longer baby making machines that show he doesn't help. i well i don't know what are you talking about i never heard about that you know at the last all the public we sort of tried to obvious that the size leave that you felt that heaved boomers out because we need to work together to get the dollar to suppress a lot of director general george thank you and that's it for the show will be back on the saturday until then keep in touch via you tube facebook instagram found klout and chemical.

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