c.n.n. . and i had written like 12 books at the time so he says i guess he meant that i had there was nothing there i created a vacuum and then filled an idea that they all left perhaps he was getting at the idea that you change formats just when formats are getting going like for instance obviously cable television new zealand satellite is so much of. of life is timing and luck what right turn left turn if you went out of here you made bad move and didn't make that move and so i was there at the right at the right time anyway so then along came national radio which was unheard of there was no network national talk show and the mutual broadcasting system the owner of a like my work is another thing they have to like you this is very subjective business so they like me and i got a national radio talk show and then ted turner used to be on that show and he liked

me and he had an opening and he called and that led to c.n.n. and that lasted $25.00 and a half years at the same time on the same network which set a record. and then when i came to an end i really thought i could retire and then artie came along do you think all these different formats are going to influence the 2016 presidential race now they already have the social network helped elect barack obama it was the 2 greatest campaigns ever in american history or obama's campaign that he hadn't won the 2nd time before he even started because of the social networks in the way they think that they did around the country they had networks of people young people working hard in all cities and even after the 1st debate which romney had won i had a republican insider tell me. kimmel mean he said you know the race is over and i

said yeah romney was very effective so obama's one already they knew already so social network the whole rigamarole donald trump i mean is there more we just had him on politics i mean only seen as a real politic guy or serving we do my wife and i do a podcast or what do you think and it was an event like it was his 1st pod cast and he's going to be on larry king now in november on larry king politicking donald's an old friend we go back a long way he said the more things about mexicans donald is donald i disagree completely with that statement but it forged in my head and donald is what he is you know he is he has an incredible ego. and it's not surprising anyone you know. donna was a kind of guy who was his wife one night and said god it's cold and he said call me doll. you. know what donald trump is i don't

think it's going to last but he has certainly said you know i started ross perot back in 1992 which was credible page american probably they say got him comfortable which is way inadvertently said he was running for president so what happened was i kept i asked them early in the show but he will cause he been outspoken about some public things and he was a very famous businessman and he said no but this was all instinct right near the end of israel all i said was asked was are there any circumstances by which you would run any anything and he said well if they put me on the ballot in all 50 states. you've got to put me on about one of these as an independent and as we were leaving he says you think this is going to go i said this is i think it's really or and he called me a week later when it started to boom and c.b.s.

started covering it me came on my show so many times when he went back to his hotel room the bellman gave him a $10.00 contribution to this campaign and he said boy that you know he didn't need the $10.00 but is able to sign to someone i mean one of the almost 20 percent of the world you can get it you can get quite angry when a guest is on the phobic racist that always i always wonder i mean you do that you call those moral issues that is wrong or a class a moral issue i can't help myself in a moral issue so if it's racism i could not step back when someone for some interviewed governor wallace of alabama he changed later on he went completely 180 degrees but he was like you know. he came in it was like i don't see any blackshear at the station i bet i said well they own the

station or up to lunch. and so on that issue the race issue and on the issue of the holocaust aquaman been a job he drove me nuts. he he drove me up for i really had i liked him it was something about of that was likable but his opinions. so we're discussing israel of course and there's all these arabian guys around and. i said to him well what is your gripe against israel he said well israel should be in poland. because that's where the crimes occurred the crimes that the germans committed did not occur in the middle east so why didn't they take a big part of poland and make that israel rather than put israel in the middle east . and i shit well i'm ok you got a point we can discuss that as the lamb people and many said and if there was

a holocaust and i stopped them if i said i wouldn't get off it so he kept trying to go on to another thing and i kept saying if there was i would personally and it drove me nuts so those kind of things you go over the line but all my life i would say 98 percent of the interviews i've done you didn't know what i thought welfare abit and issues are going to be in the 2016 campaign because you yourself when i was told your were innocent of a tax credits it will britain big issue it will be a part of an issue of of. where you focus your energy in a budget and the republican side of it is that we should have we should talk 1st concern to be about defense and the democratic side is the 1st concern should be about health and welfare and they clash over that the eventually what happens is as

lyndon johnson once said you have to give a little on both sides so the defense side you can spend billions is spent a little less than that to give and take that's what it is the best argument i ever heard for the social side of the question was mariel home of the lake mary home of was a dear friend he was the 1st guest on c.n.n. . i counted him just one of the great band of unknown. and i said give me the difference in your philosophy and this could well work in britain too with your new head of the labor your philosophy versus your opponent's philosophy with it and he's all ok. i'll put it down in human terms think of this image human terms is a lot of crime in the neighborhood. and this plainly of for man a woman son the daughter they need

a new lock on the door. and the law was 25 years you've got to get the law it's crime going to get the law. the daughter. has a severe flu. and he's got to get medication in the medication plus the same as the law when he was. this crime. where he. said i by the law. so on that simple question i bottle out how i knew from a person was when my father died we were on we call it relief. now it's called welfare but we got new york city bought my 1st pair of lessons they paid our rent for 3 years as one mother i was 9 to have my brother was 6 of them have he couldn't work. i knew what it was like to see an inspector come to the house to see what

kind of meat my mother was buying he would open the refrigerator the icebox open the icebox and see what are you buying fried meat she would spend more and priming and spend less on herself so i remember those days and we didn't like them. but we appreciated them. i appreciate that new york city came through for me. you mentioned defense. versus welfare did have a feeling these thousands of individuals with politicians that you are interviewing puppets with a good intention and it was k. street the big lobbyist some of the maybe the defense companies that are behind it all and you were just the public masses of there in k. street and you're talking to the puppets yeah i don't look good you're looking at motives i don't try to. the people aren't

a sheet i knew them the lobbyists they said would lobbying for a good cause you know we you need that extra ship you need that destroyer because they come from a place they may be getting paid for it but i never i never tried to insinuate that there was a motive behind their operator i believe their believes are what they are as i don't question a person stands up and says what they believe i don't question i question them but i don't question that they don't believe what they're saying going to them at all in all cases. well some of it i'm not there to find out the wire. if i know it's a lie i'm going to go in and investigate it but i don't. i'm not right or the time you know i don't. you know something. we're to russell the great

philosopher nobel prize winner when he was 95 years old he was the inner and so national more you know and he said the only thing i know is that. i don't i try to get as i ask questions i have opinions. but at the core of it what do we know. all we know is to ask as our t. says question more. after the break larry king on this is a question from bianca jagger on america's bizarre voting system and he tells us about the most powerful interview of his career so far.

join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. right now all the. people who are overweight or obese it's full

suitable to self. and sugary and salty and addictive it's not at the individual level it's not individual willpower and if we go on believing that never change this obesity epidemic that industry has been influencing very deeply the medical and scientific establishment. so what's driving the obesity epidemic it's corporate profit. because so few number from one most why don't they come in for the 1000000 mark them up one this is important for them to november and so on one focus instead to get a. lot

of money but ultimately they prefer to get i think. she will use it was you make an. agreement to your friend. general barr from the sun on my book you go to the british course there's enough of them. i mean the guys who are not in the cause that don't want any of the danger. if you can. to take. the lead. in the 2nd half of our auti 10th anniversary event with larry king we threw questions over to the floor at the i.c.a. and 1st up. council of europe goodwill ambassador bianca jagger saya hirsch great journalists of course most of. my life massacre i don't doubt it gets too noisy

he's written controversial stuff about syria. he can get published in the new yorker so hirsch's banned from the new yorker you say he was on going underground actually when he when he explained why dorrian syria they just didn't want it was about what did he say he was talking about chemical the claims the syrian government used chemical weapons and syrian people i'm surprised i'd like to talk to side. one because he's a great journalist and to the new yorker i've never known them to back off on something if you had good evidence that one side said the accusations were wrong according to sources yeah but you know the new yorker and ahmadinejad's get back to us i think we benefit right open p.-i just where it. is why you dear i'm well i'm very happy to see you in a long time and i know we missed you. but i want to know who do you think is going

to be the kind of the day democrats bernie sanders or hillary clinton i love bernie. i know hillary alone why i believe usually many times because she's got she's the best financed she hasn't cool credible resume bernie sanders is a wonderful guy and a lot of things she says need to be said and amazing appeal to the youth and you got a love of music guy. but hillary is so well entrenched on so if she's not indicted if they don't get her on something from she's going to run and she's going to get the nomination and in my opinion she be the heavy she's a heavy favorite now in las vegas to win because the republicans haven't found the new ones right guy probably you know the you know the giver of time trump if you

were of time because he speaks the truth and he's forceful and he would be rock the bay have all of candidates every candidate has weaknesses but hillary is well entrenched and we have an electoral system in america that i don't necessarily agree with. but the state votes are what whoever wins in that state you get their full electoral count so i live in california my vote is meaningless hillary clinton will win california this debate she will win the california electoral votes if you're a democrat living in utah your vote is meaningless the republican candidate will win the nomination to win the election in will in in utah so it comes down to ohio and florida those 2 states will decide the election and whoever wins those 2 states and i would make hillary the favorite the most disappointing candidate has been jeb bush i know jeb

a long time used to be on my show in miami and i can't believe that he's lost all of gravitas it is a little something's missing which of his bright the something that i love is this was a great guy that is too liberal for the republicans. he's trying not to be liberal they used to be a big liberal base in the republican party big moderately one of the greatest politicians i amat was george romney mitt's father who was a liberal republican governor of michigan. that they were evaporated you know finally the republic of the republicans case it is probably will liberal high yelled he came from the b.b.c. . for many years you worked for scene and iconic american old american network and now you're all embarking on working with a russian network was that conflicting for you know was inflicting one they

distribute our program they have the r d i will say this they have never interfered with half the shows it could critical of food and never taken anything out i've never heard anything from them don't do this don't miss this don't interview that person so i'm i'm ok i'm a communicator and in my whole career of very serious 58 years i have never. he was a general manager a program director come over to me and say don't have this guest don't ask that question now that never happened after the b.b.c. when i worked there. katherine wiley from the press association and i just want to play you thought piers morgan was in the successful and c.n.n. as you were and does you watch many of his shows i watched a few my problem with piers was nothing personal but he

was the end to this is a work i was as in so there are of it was all about him so he used the word i a lot and i just so when i was asked this i was as i said look i like them personally but that's not my type of show i don't i don't break guests and i don't i don't make it about me the guests isn't a prop i didn't enjoy it and i would say that about any host who i felt. i didn't serve his audience well i think piers did not do that i didn't like that type of interview. i understand he's back in london. how does your peers will you. larry is there anybody that you didn't get to meet that you would love to have met it's right your career is there one person that stands out clearly other than me that you think. i mean james carville and then

look like you. fidel castro out of castro i went to heaven if you still can. he ran his could he had his country along even any person ever i don't think anybody ran a country for 60 years and he's a fascinating person to be a revolutionary came down from the hills i was on the radio the morning he marched i was on the radio in miami the morning he marched into. and i've always had a fascination with him i went over and it's a beautiful silly and we still haven't been able to work about ted turner tried to get him for me because ted to fish with a lot and he's a baseball guy and i like baseball it's almost tried to make something of with that but it would have been castro i missed ice cream well no you you still can.

oh i would go tomorrow to. my perch and i was at work up the road my whole. and all the interviews you've done which is moved you the most emotionally whether it's a spiritual leader you met or probably less likely but a politician or somebody who's given a personal testimony of war crimes whatever what sort of what's in your memory what's the most powerful there's a very good question. i've had some great. over the years i've been blessed to a bit of you know 8 presidents. and there's so many one i've interviewed jackie robinson martin luther king but the most emotional interview. was with the new york city cop. this cop. we booked him and i had the know what the story was i just knew that he was on the new york

city police force and that he was shot. in an incident in central park and he was in a wheelchair and and paralyzed for life and he had a little child who he couldn't feel so i was 3 years old. and he came with his wife and child and to tell his story and his story was that his father was a cop his grandfather was a cop he wore he's the worst of the police in uniform public relations the city of new york and i says what happened he said he was there was a series of a bike that fs in central park some people were stealing bikes and he was on patrol driving in a squad car with his fellow patrol and they spotted this black kid with a brand new schwinn bike and he got out of the car and was approaching the kid and

the kid shot to shot he really didn't feel pain he remembered a puff of smoke coming out of this thing him of the falling down remember the ride in the ambulance the game last rites of the catholic church and he thought he was going to die anyway survived but he paralyzed that down his his wife was pregnant at the time gave birth to this little boy who has never been able to touch. and what happened was he. he wondered why did this boy shoot. and the boy was in jail. you know when as a minor he was 17 and he was in for attempted murder. i don't know what the sentence was but anyway he went to visit the kid and the kid came out and in the cell the kid and he said to the kid why did you shoot me. and the kid said. i've been saving for this bike

for 4 years working to deliver groceries i'm an a student and i finally got my bike. and you with that 10 cops to stop me today that tend. to stop me what are you doing with this bike. and then become said i asked him well would. what is would we do and then the kid said to him would you have stopped me if i were white. and the cop said he had to think about it and just the fact that he had a think about it made him understand. who was wrong the kid had

a gun it was his brother's gun it was holding it wasn't met had anything wrong with him but he is a kid stopped 10 times because he had a new bike. just because he was black and frustration and. bam. and the cop. is the father become. became the kid's a big brother. and he got them out of jail. and the kid came. thank. you. i tried army and i think that's so i am glad u.s. that course you know they think it just in news and everything just flows were a viable it but you crowd.

the legend that was larry king speaking to me back in 2015 before the birth of black lives matter protests across american cities during the obama administration and the trumpet ministration condolences from all the team here and going underground we'll be back on wednesday when we continue to bring you stories not on so-called mainstream media we'll be speaking to the united nations relief and works agency in gaza about whether israel is breaking the 4th geneva convention over coronavirus vaccination but also be speaking to a member of the trump for 20 divisor reboard a former intelligence officer until then even talked. about telegram the new chip.

those of us who watched carefully the russia gate hoax oh it would eventually become the foundation for policy the biking ministry has done this is what you do

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if. i. do headlines this monday morning. protests across europe. the states are not getting the vaccine hopeful. of a 60 percent shortfall in deliveries now some members are already looking for alternatives that. were forced to find a new source in order to get fast of reliable vaccine we have concluded a treaty today under which russia will deliver in fact seem to hungry in 3 stages.

with a raft of huge challenges to the u.k. at the moment including the.