started its foreign policy approaches 0 and of course russia is as always close to the top for some reason and those of us didn't watch the russia gate hoax over these years always lamented as i said in my introduction that it would bleed into policy well it is done that ok well we we have mixed signals i mean we can talk about the 5 year extension on the new start treaty that's about to expire next month which is good news and we always cheer for good news but i wonder if there's going to be linkages because we still have this rhetoric of russia interfering meddling in american politics so it's never spoken out like that allow that the united states medals in every country's internal politics here so a mixed bag patrick but as i like to do i'd like to stress is that it is dictation story russia gate has bled into policy and that's something that we all worried about go ahead with something that we were warning about from the very beginning is the danger of allowing

a sort of official conspiracy theory to permeate into you know public life into the national discourse and of and ultimately into foreign policy those who are the most dangerous part of it and that's very regrettable unfortunately and i think this the fact that none of this actually makes sense from a logical point of view and it's purely based on power politics internal u.s. power politics this doesn't really bode well for the united states as a world power as a sort of competent world power at the top of the sort of the you know the governing hierarchy of the global is a late stage empire i suppose you could call it and it's not really about competence anymore it's about being in power and you keep hearing this domestically in power the transition of power were in power this is kind of a new thing in america we didn't always used to talk like this back through history the. power is with the people and normally politicians and government are serving

at the pleasure of the electorate at the end of the day but that seems to have basically inverted blend do since peace is interesting he's talking about how the old cold war paradigm was defined by the west being capitalist christian and democratic and the soviet bloc in the being communist atheist and authoritarian and this is kind of flipped right now in a strange way i would call it instead of capitalism in america you've got crony capitalism and what i would call suicide socialism in terms of policy atheism is definitely in the ascendancy in america despite what the christian right might be where they're at and you instead of democracy you have a plutocracy quite clearly and that really coalesce is with power so these dialectic seem to have flipped and in terms of foreign policy they're still going to double down on this rhetoric about we're democratic nations and

d 10 this is the new sort of al growth of the g 7 this is the g 7 plus india south korea and australia and that and biden's really going to use this word where the leading democracies of the world the high council of democracy and this will use this to sort of try to legitimize whatever policies coming down the pipeline god knows what you know the middle east might be in store for or what eastern europe might be in store for but you have these micro-managers now back in power. after they just think thing is if you're going to use the instrument of democracy will ask how the electorate in the united states what they think about elections right now so i mean it is just laughable on its face ok of course this is thing is it's going to be a substitute for the united nations and be militarized it'll mirror nato we seen this movie before it ends badly you know the interesting thing. you know from the

russian side they always expect the worst which they feel they should that's a reasonable position ok. you know who they want to have presidents you know trump or clinton or trump or biden is it just this is ridiculous it's is kind of a sophomore of criminology that we've all gotten used to unfortunately but there is a little bit of a difference here since the cold war we had every single incoming ministration wanting some kind of reset that was the term they used when obama came to power. but that's not the case right now that's not the case now at all i mean it's the the the new administration has started out openly hostile and you know and one's on the one hand hostile and the other talking about the possibility of extending the new start treaty which you know we all know historically arms control agreements have linkage ok so if mr blinken thinks otherwise he shouldn't have his job and i'm

pretty convinced he shouldn't have his job but that's a topic for another program go ahead oh well according to the way just information biden said mistreatment is going to extend the they they said they would extend it for 5 years it will go there was open their position because border no one who is now deputy secretary of state you know a pretty important position for someone who is responsible for the deaths of 13000 people in ukraine you know she was responsible for these transfer of power as they all did but in fact it was a violent who in which at least 38 policeman died you know hundreds were maimed and they called it peaceful demonstrations so unfortunately away i didn't hear we're just completely twisted you know these and all the universe on the wall that these people have i'm very glad that patrick used their water power yes indeed. it was

not in fashion in the united states but in the soviet union the war oh he was very important in the beginning you know when bolsheviks can compel soviet power you know we hold the power that was the slogan that lenin used when he seized power in 1970 so basically i'm not against any leftist your your i'm against the tyrian leftist i got you i'm not against liberal ideology i'm against this but the new theory invariant which they have now unfortunately or starting to have in the united states and in that sense again patrick got it absolutely right when you say that the old rules have somewhat you know been flipped you know this this time and here i'm going to quote an article by our friend glenn discern on archy's website i think it kind of summarizes what patrick just said the liberal international order has to recast the form a capitalist corman is done by it with an imperial authoritarian divide however the ideological incomplete incompatibility between american liberalism and russian

conservatism is less convincing for example much for former ambassador to russia michael mccall cautions against watching sniff areas conservative might your would you committed to christian traditional female or family values microbe uses threat to liberal international or the end of quote well indeed the roles have been flipped i mean and the funny side of it is that fortune actually did not plan to be you know that why you know. a knight in shining armor defending christian values he had a lot more modest spy relations when he came to power in the year 2000 i think you want the crash to be a normal east european country you know. expanding its connections to the way developing its economy in course with the united states and with your opinion about the problem is that these people you know they say go. pushes him into the

conservative camp if you want at and makes him defend christian values even more than he would probably like to you know you know it's interesting is that. the ideas of george of can in the in the american ambassador to the soviet union at the very end of the a 2nd world war any came with his famous telegram in foreign affairs you know and it was can do contain the soviet union which i think is very interesting because that it that's come back into vogue michael nicole's name is already been mentioned here but you have these neo cons and i know i have a new phrase obama that's who's and then what by white house they like to you know bandy that about but they can they completely overlook what ken and i actually had to say when the soviet union came to the end and the warsaw pact dissolved then expanding nato would be a catastrophic mistake ok why don't you quote that part of the can in. legacy here go ahead patrick jump in no is a it's

a great point and just to carry on from what i was saying to the dialectic they're trying to construct is that you know the west is liberal russia is authoritarian and you know anything east is authoritarian and that's the dialectic but really you have to look at the new phenomenon which peter you've just alluded to which is liberal authoritarianism and sort of enforcing global wolken if for instance and if you look at how the media was covering the syrian war for instance in the early days a lot of it was you know we need to liberate these people who the community is being suppressed they do the same with russia as well they champion the kurdish cause because the kurds are woke the kurds or l.g.b. too friendly and this is what we need to get behind they're like us basically we need to support them and so that's the kind of resin d'etre that's driving the under. but you have the paradox of realism in the sense the.

you know if you look at the way can waltz into all the cold war years you know during the cold war time construct of this paradigm was based on bipolar power distribution globally ok but what you have now is it's never changed the liberal international order liberal internationalism is real ism because you have countries like the united states whoever is the most powerful has the most resources has the most capabilities in terms of the us its hard power soft power with media and also smart power with n.g.o.s that's a new development in terms of the able to disrupt destabilize a country of throw its government out in a coup or what not that's that was a really articulated very well by the great you know international relations scholars during the cold war because they were really concentrating more on hard power and you know just did general heavyweight bout basically but that's the

paradox of realism is that realism still governs the liberal international order it's of it's of the liberal international order is a farce and the press don't cover the subterfuge because then that that takes the you know the it gives the game away the last 30 seconds before we go to the break it's just amazing how these people confuse historical adolphe's you know when the cole colds. you know cold kalam all they need to contain russia he forgets that 50 years later in 1990 you know when the nato was expanding kevin gave an interview to polis friedman all you know babes but he said the expansion of nato was a mistake and that we should fight it is spoken dane and russia in the same way france negative when he can bad will happen to all the capitol hill to the kristallnacht in germany and bakes extra replica. kristallnacht was in you know

when the ukrainian nationalist boy couldn't russian banks it was the same as. you know you really have. these people just don't know history in their own willing to learn it here ok i'm going to jump in here we got to go to a short break and out of the short break we'll continue our discussion and some real minute stay with our. financial guy don't buy a i'm on a future. some of my ex in the future crocker kaiser. in 2040 you know bloody revolution to the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it.

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atlantic which was so interesting we should actually talk about it it was published in the atlantic on january the 19 and what to do with trumpets and if i could read the subtitle here the proper response to these extremists is not counterterrorism it's mental hygiene explain the last sentence how do you interpret that well in order thought this started correctly you was be familiar with the storm your compress your psychiatry because it was a very soviet idea that anyone who disagrees with the mainstream is nots you know he's somehow no you know he needs to be correct that the soviets even invented a special term for it and they called it all kind of schizophrenia you know these people just don't perceive. the new york times perceives it that means they have schizophrenia you know that moment and it's amazing you know that the author starts 1st. he speaks about repression he speaks about putting in jail everyone who

basically was in any way involved in the action at the capital i think it was a crime and there should be consequences but putting people in jail for thinking years for 3 minutes of self aggrandizing like the jack angel or whatever his name was that's that's cruel you know that's abnormal but let me quote what mr graham who writes in that plane take. the voice forstmann should calm down in charge of all the insurrectionists from the flexcar guys to the greatness posing for photos the bigger with which federal prosecutors have been pursuing them proves that the united states has not been corrupted completely reasons exist to hold such people as these that's the end of the quote so basically it reminds me of my us you know when in the soviet union. dissidents were 1st of all names and sheen you know if

you participate in some kind of a demonstration you know if you disagree openly then you are a good normal you should be ashamed and yes sometimes you should be put in prison and of course the west is much more impressive than the east you know just to preempt all the future questions what happened in moscow on sunday you know these people who want to know how many to go free they could get you know they would demonstrate some kind of a stage and if they had millions behind them they would come there as we did in 1901 we protested against the communist regime but they wanted to prove occasion they wanted a clash with police so 4000 of them which means you know every person for 3000 people live in moscow moscow is a city of 12000000 people so police says there were 4000 well they say there were 440000 even if there were 40000 in just one person for 300 most quipped. they came

to the police and the cat scuffles with police using children as human shields you know guys all of 1415 years of age that's law and democracy will happen soon tonight the states simply because you were near that building since it is simply because you were hit in something stupid the federal prosecutors and off to you and so on and that blanket mob view is that you know of one corruption ok obviously all 3 of us and i'm sure our viewers agree that protest is signed as long as you do it legally in without any use of violence and i think that should be a universal thing that we all should embrace here but patrick here then the the a bit it's not about the events on the capitol for goodness sake ok this is just a cudgel here ok because the impending purge was our it had been invasion before the events on the counter also but i mean this just goes back to something that we talk in the 1st part of the program is that it is

a liberal totalitarianism in play here and it is all about intolerance and and the refusal to debate i mean it's better to be the platform someone and disappears someone be monetized them instead of being gauging them in this is what this ideology has come to go ahead no it's but it's pretty clear looking at the rhetoric i mean this piece by the atlantic is just unbelievable but in a way it's a good it's a good sort of lesson of what the sort of mindset is at least in the coastal mainstream media echo chambers but what the direction of travel here is clearly the real the real thing is in domestic terrorism here the direction of travel is the federer's federal power the power of the federal government versus everything else basically and so this is this is how it's shaping up the partisans on the left are mazing of the democrats is if you look at their output over the last 5 years it's been russia russia russia and there. you know they're saying q and on this this

online large conspiracy is like the equivalent to al qaida or isis but you know terms of we talked about russia gate actually affects us foreign policy i mean so that conspiracy theory has like real world implications global implications in fact but the problem is you have the liberal intelligentsia you have people who are populating the cabinet right now they teach at harvard they teach at all these top ivy league universities they've been telling their students absolute fiction for the last 5 years and these people are in charge i think this really there is a degradation of not not not just discourse but there's a moral degree degradation in america at the intellectual at the so-called elite level the main mainstream media level where they don't care they want to blame the internet for the post truth world when in fact they created the post truth world government federal government mainstream media the it look at the obama

administration the how they wielded federal power how they politicize the department of justice that's what you're going to see under the biden harris administration is a really very authoritarian very much politicizing every agency his cabinet selections are all based on political identity practically so it means everything is politicized so this is like obama 2.0 obama stablish federal power in the executive branch like like more than any other president in some cases and now you're going to see the full politicization of everything that it out through all the different civil service and federal agencies you know you know you know a looking at. the role discourse in the u.s. more and more often you hear the. term. program or read program from supporters again. echoes of the soviet union for me because you know their

mission failed mission and i would like to say is the create the new man ok and they fail but we see another attempt being laid out here in the west right now is to create a new person and i guess not to be politically correct and what it does is it in a gaze i mean in my opinion and i'm not really productive herby is that this is an attempt to negate their will be the entire. renaissance of western thinking i mean almost every single quarter they're trying to crush it ok and it's remarkable that it comes up it's coming from the west's go ahead. you're absolutely right and just like in the search union it comes in 2 stages the 1st stage is a cold don't demonize ational or your opponent i mean m s n b c mr haas you know. on m b c he said that

a trump support us should be treated as a force who would just walk freely m.r.i.'s simply because they're white rather than bro and most of them out of court so this is someone who says it on imus n.b.c. a former department for homeland security official juliette k.m. agrees that we should treat make america great again movement as a terrorist movement drop as it's us open wound up again out of court so that the 1st stages of the top the demonization of their opponents you know that all demand is a bad man he's terrible now the creation of the new map is just amazing you know in a 1st thinks which is a magazine you hold to 2 problems with christianity protestantism there was a amazing article by current truman just published recently where he writes that people inside the protestant congregation such assault and baptist those of them who don't. believe critical race theory are no longer considered christians by

the by their fellow protestants and there is a big debate can you be christian and be white at the same time you know that's that's exactly what the bolsheviks were arguing about like can you be a communist by not being a permit area well yes if your way. if you can be you know if you're over came your cost privilege if your knowledge they would say if you overcame your white privilege i mean this is the same basic obedience received an a but in a way kind of worse because they've they've established what the energy is now you must conform to that identity and if you're white well that's going to be kind of a tough thing to do i mean it's not you know appealing to our hearts and minds ok and i mean they're actually making making a case where you cannot be redeemed again this is part of our western political culture here many a time i'm not advocating europe made of our model one just look where i'm going

from this home and do it here cam she says that 1st that woman movement has to be decapitated trump is to be isolated she's forward should be embarrassed and then trump should be mate mate forced to repudiate that's exactly in 1000 surgeons in russia you know people they repudiate their force before they were going to cuba they had to see all these people who were my friends they're all traitors you know i absolutely have nothing to do with them and then these people. were isolated and then i believe a position inside the party was decapitated so if these are the same to know which is same warts i would say ok now i'm you know what i'm sorry. no the democrats are the what you call the left which will probably end up being the authoritarian right very soon they talk about inclusive of the they talk about . diversity but only in ethnic terms or political identity terms not in terms of

political beliefs or for instance that the term nationalism has been merged into mean white nationalism white supremacy all of this is been kind of you know put together in one omelette by the media by mainstream discourse and so nationalism is been kind of demonized as but that's absolute nationalism versus globalism that's a very real political choice that's what that reflects the reality of the of the global situation but it's being basically crushed so that that gives you a clue as to the direction of travel of where the real policy is is going with the people who are basically doing this what to again did the danger is if you marginalize a large group of people you demonize them you marginalize them that the ultimate goal is to disenfranchise them eventually and when you do that you will create the

something that doesn't exist now to compare that trumper white militias and so forth to to isis or al-qaeda doesn't exist i've i have seen any job in new york settlement running out of time but you know creating a political party and that's were it not i want to make my guest lemonade here a muslim i want to thank our viewers watching as you know our next member. wrong. just don't call. me i'll get to see. it in. the trailer. when some find themselves well supplied. just on the common ground.

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