which is good news and we always cheer for good news but i wonder if there's going to be linkages because we still have this rhetoric of russia interfering meddling in american politics so it's never spoken out like that allowed that the united states medals in every country's internal politics here so a mixed bag patrick but as i like to i'd like to stress is that it is dictation story russia gate has bled into policy and that's something that we all worried about go ahead with something that we were warning about from the very beginning is the danger of allowing a sort of official conspiracy theory to permeate into you know public life into the national discourse and of and ultimately into foreign policy those who are the most dangerous part of it and that's very regrettable unfortunately and i think this the fact that none of this actually makes sense from a logical point of view and it's purely based on power politics internal u.s.

power politics this doesn't really bode well for the united states as a world power as a sort of competent world power at the top of the sort of the you know the governing hierarchy of the global is late stage empire i suppose you could call it and it's not really about competence anymore it's about being in power and you keep hearing this domestically in power the transition of power were in power this is kind of a new thing in america we didn't always used to talk like this back through history the power is with the people and normally politicians and government are serving at the pleasure of the electorate at the end of the day but that seems to have basically inverted glenn days do since peace is interesting. he's talking about how the old cold war paradigm was defined by the west being capitalist christian and democratic and the soviet bloc in the being communist atheist and authoritarian.

and this is kind of flipped right now in a strange way i would call it instead of capitalism in america you've got crony capitalism and what i would call suicide socialism in terms of policy atheism is definitely in the ascendancy in america despite what the christian right might be where they're at and you instead of democracy you have a plutocracy quite clearly and that really coalesce is with power so these dialectic seem to have flipped and in terms of and this is the g 7 plus india south korea and australia and that and biden's really going to use this word we're the leading democracies of the world the high council of democracy and this will use this to sort of try to legitimize whatever policies coming down the pipeline god knows what you know the middle east might be in store for or what eastern europe might be in store for but you have these micro-managers now back in power now after they just think thing as if they're going to use the instrument of democracy will

ask how the electorate in the united states what they think about elections right now so i mean it is just laughable on its face ok of course this is a 10 thing is it's going to be a substitute for the united nations and be militarized it will mirror nato we seen this movie before it ends badly you know the interesting thing you know from the russian side they always expect the worst which they say they should that's a reasonable position ok. you know who they want to have president you know trump or clint jenner or trump or biden is just this is ridiculous and you know the answer is kind of sophomore and criminology that we've all gotten used to unfortunately but there is a little bit of a difference here since the cold war we had every single incoming and ministration wanting some kind of reset that was the term they used when obama came to power. but that's not the case right now. that's not the case though i mean it's the the

the new administration is darted out openly hostile and you know and once on him hostile and another day of talking about the possibility of extending the the new start treaty which you know we all know historically arms control agreements have linkage ok so if mr blinken thinks otherwise he should have this job and i'm pretty convinced he should have his job but that's a topic for another program go ahead. well according to the waiters to information biden said ministry is going to extend the creek they they they said they would extend it for 5 years it was all there was open your position through trauma victoria nuland who is now deputy secretary of state you know a pretty important position for someone who is responsible for the deaths of about 13000 people in ukraine you know she was responsible for this transfer of power as they all that but in fact it was a violent cool in which at least 38 policemen died you know hundreds were mean and

they called it peaceful demonstrations so unfortunately we're dealing here with just a completely twisted you know vision or the universe of the water that these people have i'm very glad that back used to the water power yes indeed it was not in fashion in the united states but in the soviet union the what oh it was very important in the beginning you know when bolsheviks can compile all of your power you know we hold the power that was there the slogan that lenin used when he seized power in 1970 so basically i'm not against any leftist id or your i'm against the tyrian leftist ideology i'm not against liberal ideology i'm against this but the new theory invariant which they have now unfortunately are starting to have in the united states and in that sense again patrick got it absolutely right when he said that the. all roles have somewhat been flipped you know this they start i'm here

i'm going to quote an article by our friend glenn discern on archy's website i think it kind of summarizes what happened just said the liberal international order has attempted to recast the form a capitalist corman is your pipe with an imperial authoritarian divide however the ideological incomplete media incompatibility between american liberalism and russian conservatism is less convincing for example not all former and best that russia michael mcfaul cautions against and sniff areas conservative ideology committed to christian traditional theme with family values for views it as a threat to liberal international or the end of quote well indeed the roles have been flipped i mean the other 5 a side of it is that gordon actually did not plan to be you know that why you know . a knight in shining armor defending christian values he had

a lot more modest aspire nations when he came to power in the year 2000 i think you want that pressure to be a normal east european country you know. expanding its connections to the way west developing its economy in course with the united states and with your opinion about the problem is that these people you know this ideology pushes him into the conservative camp if you want and nature can defend christian values even more than he would probably like to you know you know it's interesting is that of the certainly ideas of georgia cannily of the american ambassador to the soviet union at the very end of the 2nd world war any came with his famous telegram in foreign affairs you know and it was going to contain the soviet union which i think is very interesting because that's come back into vogue michael mccullough name is already been mentioned here but you have these neo cons and i know i haven't. praising

obama is that susan the biden white house they like to you know bandy that about but they don't completely overlook what can it actually had to say when the soviet union came to the end the warsaw pact dissolve the expanding nato would be a catastrophic mistake ok why don't you quote that part of the can in. legacy here go ahead patrick jump it no it is a it's a great point and just to carry on from what i was saying to the dialectic they're trying to construct is that you know the west is liberal russia is authoritarian and you know anything east is authoritarian and that's the dialectic but really you have to look at the new phenomenon which peter you've just alluded to which is liberal authoritarianism and sort of enforcing global wolken if for instance and if you look at how the media was covering the syrian war for instance in the early days a lot of it was you know we need to liberate these people who. communities being suppressed they do the same with russia as well they champion the kurdish cause

because the kurds are woke the kurds are l.g.b. too friendly and this is what we need to get behind their like us basically we need to support them and so that's the kind of resin d'etre that's driving the under. but you have the paradox of realism in the sense that you know if you look at the way can waltz into all the cold war years you know during the cold war to construct a this paradigm was based on bipolar power distribution globally ok but what you have now is it's never changed the liberal international order liberal internationalism israel ism because you have countries like the united states whoever is the most powerful has the most resources has the most capabilities in terms of the us its hard power soft power with media and also smart power with n.g.o.s that's a new development in terms. of the able to disrupt destabilize

a country of throw its government in a coup or what not that's that was a really articulated very well by the great you know international relations scholars during the cold war because they were really concentrating more on hard power and you know just general heavyweight bout basically but that's the paradox of realism is that realism still governs the liberal international order it's of it's of the liberal international order is a farce and the press don't cover the subterfuge because then that that takes the you know the it gives the game away the last 30 seconds before we go to the break it's just amazing how these people confuse historical and old you know when mccoll colds. you know colds. or the need to contain russia he forgets that 50 years late in 100-1000 now and you know when that neighbor was explaining

kevin gave an interview to almost friedman all of the new york times where he said the expansion of nato was a mistake and that we should find it is spoken dane and russia in the same way france now go when he can bad will happen to all the capitol hill to the kristallnacht in germany and then they get zapped replica of kristallnacht was in kiev you know when they were training nationalist boy couldn't russian banks it was the same as me. you know you really have to look i mean these people just don't know history in their own willing to learn it here ok i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion and some real meat stay with hearty.

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in 2040 you know bloody revolution if you look at the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it still war here. put me in the. school in the middle of the former ukrainian president recalls the events of 2040 and. those who took. this to do over 5000000000 dollars to assist ukraine in these and other goals that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. welcome at the cross not where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real.

oh it's going to have to. go i mean you sent up particularly an article up from the atlantic which was so interesting we should actually talk about it it was published in the atlantic on january the 19 and what to do with trumpets and if i read the subtitle here the proper response to these extremists is not counterterrorism it's mental hygiene explain the last sentence how do you interpret that well in order to understand it correctly you must be familiar with the storm your true press your psychiatry because it was a very soviet idea that anyone who disagrees with the mainstream is nots you know he's somehow not nomo you know he needs to be correct that the soviets even invented a special term for it and they called it all kind of schizophrenia you know these people just don't perceive reality as the new york times perceives it that means

they have schizophrenia you know what that means and what moment and it's amazing you know that the author starts 1st. impressions he speaks about puttin in jail everyone who basically was in any way involved in the action at the capital i think it was a crime and there should be consequences but putting people in jail for 20 years for 3 minutes of self aggrandizing like that. what though his name was that's that's cruel you know that's a more moral but let me call it what mr graham would writes in that plane take. the law enforcement should come dahlan in charge of all the insurrectionists problem the flex guys to the greatness bowls in for photo ops the vigor with which federal prosecutors have been pursuing them proves that the united states has not been corrupted completely reasons exist to hold such people as these that's the end of the court so basically it interim line. all of my you will you know when in the

soviet union. dissidents 1st of all maimed and sheen you know if you participate in some kind of a demonstration you know if you disagree openly then you are above normal you should be ashamed and yes sometimes you should be in prison and of course the west is march more impressive than the east you know just to preempt all the future questions what happened in moscow on sunday you know all these people who want you to go free they could get you know they demonstrate some kind of a stage and if they spend millions because they would come there as we did in 1901 we protest that they against the communist regime but they wanted to provoke asia and they wanted a clash with police so 4000 of them which means you know every person for 3000 people even in moscow moscow is a c.t.o. of 12000000 people so police says there were 4000 well they say there are 440000

even if there were 40000 it's just one person for 300 moskowitz they came to the police and they have scuffles with police using children as human shields you know guys all of 1415 years of age that's not democracy and what happens in the united states simply because you were near that building since it is simply because you are yet in something stupid the federal prosecutors offer you and someone and they're going to mock the views of you know of one corruption ok obviously our 3 of us and i'm sure our viewers agree that protest designed as long as you do it legally in without any use of violence and i think that should be a universal thing that we all should embrace here but patrick here in the. it's not about the events on the capitol for goodness sake ok this is a cudgel here ok because the the the impending purge was our invasion before. the events on the count also and i mean this just goes back to is

something that we talk in the 1st part of the program is that is liberal totalitarianism in play here and it is all about intolerance and and the refusal to have a debate i mean it's better to be the platform someone and disappears someone be monetized them instead of being gauging them and this is what this ideology is going to go ahead no it's but it's pretty clear looking at the rhetoric i mean this piece by the atlantic is just unbelievable but in a way it's a good it's a good sort of lesson of what the sort of mindset is at least in the coastal mainstream media echo chambers but what the direction of travel here is clearly the real the real thing is in domestic terrorism here the direction of travel is the federal power the power of the federal government versus everything else basically and so this is this is how it's shaping up the partisans on the left are amazing

the democrats is if you look at their output over the last 5 years it's been russia russia russia and there you know they're saying q and on this this online large conspiracy is like the equivalent to al qaida or isis but you know terms of we talked about russia gate actually affects us foreign policy i mean so that conspiracy theory has like real world implications global implications in fact but the problem is you have the liberal intelligentsia you have people who are populating the cabinet right now they teach at harvard they teach at all these top ivy league universities they've been telling their students absolute fiction for the last 5 years and these people are in charge i think this really there's a degradation of not not not just discourse but there's a moral degree degradation in america at the intellectual at the so-called elite level the main mainstream media level where the. they don't care they want to blame

the internet for the post truth world when in fact they created the post truth world government federal government mainstream media the if you look at the obama administration the how they wielded federal power how they politicize the department of justice that's what you're going to see under the biden harris administration is a really very authoritarian very much politicizing every agency his cabinet selections are all based on political identity practically so it means everything is politicized so this is like obama 2.0 obama stablish federal power in the executive branch like more than any other president in some cases and now you're going to see the full politicization of everything that it out through all the different civil service and federal agencies you know you know you know a looking at. the role discourse in the u.s. more and more often you hear the the the there the term to deprogram or

reprogramming trumps of borders again this has echoes of the soviet union or maybe you know their mission failed mission and i would like to say is the create the new man ok and they fail but we see another attempt being played out here in the west right now is to create a new person i guess not to be politically correct and what it that what that does is it in a gaze i mean but in my opinion i am not really productive her belly is that this is an attempt to negate the will be the entire. renaissance of of western thinking i mean almost every single order they're trying to crush it ok and it is remarkable that he comes up is coming from the west go ahead. you are absolutely right and just like in the senate union in 2 stages the 1st stage is a dolt though do you want a. or your opponent i mean m s n

b c mr haas you know. on m b c he said that a trump supporter should be treated as a force who would just walk freely m.r.i.'s simply because they're white rather than bro and most of them and of course so this is someone who says it on amazon b c a former department for hall and security official juliette k. m. agrees that we should treat make america great again movement as a terrorist movement and drum as it's been wound up again and of court so that the 1st stages of the thought the demonization of their opponents you know that all demand is a bad man he's terrible now the creation of the new man is just amazing you know in a 1st thinks which is a magazine devoted to the problems of christianity protestantism there was a amazing article by carl truman just published recently where he writes

that people inside the protestant congregations such as south and baptist those of them who do not believe critical race theory are normally considered christians but by their fair will prosper and there is a big debate can you be christian and be white at the same time you know that's that's exactly what the bolsheviks were arguing about like can you be a communist why not be an appropriate area well yes if you are. if you can be you know if you're over came your class privilege if you are now they would say if you overcame your white privilege i mean this is the same base here because this is. in a way kind of worst because they've been here stablish where the energy is now you must conform to that identity and if you're white well that's going to be common but tough thing to do i mean it's not you know approve of you in your heart suit minds ok i mean they're actually making. making

a case where you can not be redeemed again this is part of our western political culture here let it happen it's not about getting up just made about model would just go away from this home and do it cam she says that 1st that woman movement has to be decapitated should be isolated he's for what should be embarrassed and then should be mate mate forced to repudiate that's exactly 1000 soldiers in russia you know all people they repudiate their foals before they were going to cuba they had to see all these people who were my friends they're all treat us you know i absolutely have nothing to do with them and that these people. 'd were isolated and that obviously a position inside the party was decapitated so if these are the same to go which is same warts i would say ok now i'm you know what i'm sorry i think i had to know the democrats the what do you call the left which will probably end up being

the authoritarian right very soon they talk about inclusive of the they talk about diversity but only in ethnic terms or political identity terms not in terms of political beliefs or for instance the term nationalism has been merged to mean white nationalism white supremacy all of this is been kind of you know put together in one omelette by the media by mainstream discourse and so nationalism is been kind of demonized as but that's an absolute nationalism versus globalism that's a very real political choice that reflects the reality of the of the global situation but it's being basically crushed so that that gives you a clue as to the direction of travel of where the real policy is is going with the people who are basically doing this to again the danger is if you marginalize a large group of people you demon. as them you marginalize them that the ultimate

goal is to disenfranchise them eventually and when you do that you will create the something that doesn't exist now to compare that trumper white militias and so forth to to isis or al-qaeda doesn't exist i've i have seen and heard no going to your settlement running out of my but yeah you're creating a political party and then worry about it i want to make my guess limit then you're a muslim want to go you are watching and you know are you next member. is your media a reflection of reality. in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe.

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