ground the king is dead legendary broadcaster larry king passed away in the past 48 hours after being diagnosed with coronavirus today we're going to look back in the interview i conducted with him at the i.c.a. in london when he launched a brand new show on after a lifetime spent within the confines of nature nation media larry king talks to me and bianca jagger in front of an invited audience about the 4th estate new liberal inequality and the race for the white house. i spoke this week to someone who has interviewed every president since nixon it was part of our tease celebrations of a decade of international broadcasting very king as shows politicking and larry king now come to artie on british t.v. he's from next week spoke to me in front of an invited audience at the institute of contemporary arts in london larry let's begin with something that malcolm forbes said the owner of forbes magazine the founder at least said you created a vacuum and then you filled it one of them me i don't know what it meant. and i

was being our dinner in new york and not conform said been on my show quite a bit the late forty's and. my radio show had really taken off and we started 36 stations and. 600 stations and i just started on c n n. and i had written like 12 books at the time so he says i guess he meant that i had there was nothing there i came back human and filled and i guess they all left perhaps he was getting at the idea that you change formats just when formats are getting going like for instance obviously cable television news alert satellite news so much of. of life is timing and luck what right turn left turn if you went out here you made that move and didn't make that move and so i was there at the right at the right time anyway so then along came national radio

which was unheard of there was no network national talk show and the mutual broadcasting system the owner of a like my work is another thing they have to like you this is very subjective business so they like me and i got a national radio talk show and then ted turner used to be on that show and he liked me and he had an opening and he called and that led to c.n.n. and that lasted. 25 and a half years at the same time on the same network which set a record and then when that came to an end i really thought i could retire and then artie came along do you think all these different formats are going to influence the 2016 presidential race they already have. the social network helped elect barack obama it was the 2 greatest campaigns ever in american history or obama's campaign that he hadn't won the 2nd time before it even started because of the social networks and the way they think that they did it around the

country they had networks of people young people working hard in all cities and even after the 1st debate which romney had won i had a republican insider tell me. kimmel mean he said you know the race is over and i said yeah romney was very fair to say obama's one already they knew already so social network the whole rigamarole donald trump i mean series adam we just had him on politics i mean only seen as a real politic guy or serving we do my wife and i do a podcast a little what do you think and it was an event like it was his 1st pod cast and he's going to be on larry king now in november on larry king politicking donald's an old friend we go back a long way he said the more things about mexicans donald is donald i disagree completely with that statement but it forged in my head and donald is what he is you know he's he has an incredible ego. and it's not surprising anyone you know.

donna was a kind of guy who was his wife one night said god it's cold and he said call me doll. no but donald trump is i don't think it's going to last but he has certainly said you know i started ross perot back in 1992 which was incredible pages american probably they say got him comfortable which is a way inadvertently said he was running for president so what happened was i kept i asked them early in the show but he will cause he been outspoken about some public things and he was a very famous businessman and he said no but this was all instinct right near the end of the show all i said was asked was are there any circumstances by which you would run any anything and he said well if they put me on the ballot

in all 50 states. you got to put me on about one of these as an independent and as we were leaving he says you think this is going to go i said this is i think it's really or and he called me a week later when it started to boom in and c.b.s. started covering it me came on my show so many times when he went back to his hotel room the bellman gave him a $10.00 contribution to this campaign and he said boy that you know he didn't need the $10.00 but is able to sign a simple and i mean one of the almost 20 percent of the world you can get it you can get quite angry when a guest is on the phobic racist that always i always wonder i mean you do you that you call those moral issues that is wrong are a class a moral issue i can't help myself in a moral issue so if it's racism i could not step back

when someone for some interviewed governor wallace of alabama he changed later on he went completely 180 degrees but he was like you know. he came in it was like i don't see any blacks here at the station i bet i should while they on the station are up to lunch. and so on that issue the race issue and on the issue of the holocaust aquaman been a drought he drove me nuts. he he drove me up for i really had i liked him it was something about of that was likable but his opinions. so we're discussing israel of course and there's all these arabian guys around. and. i said to him well what is your gripe against israel he said well israel should be in poland because that's where the

crimes occurred the crimes that the germans committed did not occur in the middle east so why didn't they take a big part of poland and make that israel rather than put israel in the middle east . and i shit well i'm ok you got a point we could discuss that as the lamb people and many said and if there was a how it forced and i stop them if i said i wouldn't get off it so he kept trying to go on one other thing and i kept saying if that was our person and it drove me nuts so those kind of things you go over the line but all my life i would say 98 percent of the good views of. you didn't know what i thought welfare abbott and issues are going to be in the 2016 campaign because you yourself when i was told your were innocent of a tax credit it will britain big issue it will be a part of an issue of of. where you focus your energy in

a budget and the republican side of it is that we should have we should to our 1st concern to be about defense and the democratic side is the 1st concern should be about health and welfare and they clash over that the bench really what happens is as lyndon johnson once said you have to give a little on both sides so the defense side you can spend billions has been a little less than that the give and take that's what it is the best argument i ever heard for the social side of the question was mariel home of the lake mary home of was a dear friend he was the 1st guest on c.n.n. . i counted him just one of the great bend of unknown. and i said give me the difference in your philosophy and this could well work in britain too with your new head of the labor your philosophy versus your opponent's

philosophy with it and he's all ok. i'll put it down in human terms think of this image human terms is a lot of crime in the neighborhood. and this plame lee of 4 man a woman son the daughter. they need a new lock on the door and the lock was 25 years. you've got to get the law it's crime down to get to lock. the door. as a severe flu and he's got to get medication. in the medication plus the same as the op. anybody else crime or anybody. he said i by the way. so on that simple question about. how i knew from

a person who was when my father died we were on we call it relief. now it's call welfare but we got new york city bought my 1st pair of lessons they paid our rent for 3 years as one mother i was 9 to have my brother was 6 of them have she couldn't work. i knew what it was like to see an inspector come to the house to see what kind of meat my mother was buying he would open the refrigerator the icebox open the icebox and see why what are you buying frying meat she would spend more and priming and spend less on herself so i remember those days and we didn't like them but we appreciated them. i appreciate that new york city came through for me. you mentioned defense versus versus welfare did have a feel in these thousands of interviews with views with politicians that you're

interviewing puppets with a good intention and it was k. street the big lobbyist some of the maybe the defense companies that are behind it all and you're just the puppet masters of their own k. street and you're talking to the puppets oh yeah i don't look good you're looking at motives. i don't try to. the people aren't a street i knew them the lobbyists they said would lobbying for a good cause you know we you need that extra ship you need that destroyer because they come from that place they may be getting paid for it but i never i never tried to insinuate that there was a motive behind their operator i believe their believes are what they are as i don't question a person stands up and says what they believe i don't question i question them but i don't question that they don't believe what they're saying they understand it all in all cases. well some of it. i'm not there to

find out the wire. if i know it's a lie i'm going to go in and investigate it but i don't. i'm not right all the time you know i don't you know something we're to russell the great philosopher nobel prize winner when he was 95 years old he was that had been or so national mourning you know and he said the only thing i know is that. i don't i try to get as cers i ask questions i have opinions. but at the core of it what do we know. all we know is to s s r t says question more. after the break larry king on this is a question from bianca jagger on america's bizarre voting system and he tells us about the most powerful interview of his career so far.

those of us who watch carefully the russian hawks always worried that it would eventually become the foundation for policy the by the ministry has done. what to do with some supporters are american liberals be bracing themselves. in $24.00 to you know bloody revolution here to clear the demonstrations going from being relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing the violent revolution is always spontaneous or is it just a lawyer here. put in the. schooling needle the former

ukrainian president recalls the events of 2014. those who took part in this today over 5000000000 dollars to assist ukraine in these another goal that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. in the 2nd half of our r.t. 10th anniversary event with larry king we threw questions over to the floor of the i.c.a. and 1st up with the council of europe goodwill ambassador bianca jagger science great journalist of course. my lai massacre i don't doubt. he's written controversial stuff about syria. he can't get published in the new yorker so hirsch's banned from the new yorker he said he was on going underground actually when he when he explained why dorrian syria they just didn't want it was about what did he say he was doing in a chemical the they claim is the syrian government used chemical weapons and syrian

people i'm surprised i'd like to talk to side. one because he's a great journalist and to the new yorker i've never known them to back off on something if he had good evidence that one side said the accusations were wrong according to sources yeah but you know the new yorker and ahmadinejad's get back to us i think we benefit right open create good jobs where it. is. why you dear i'm well i'm very happy to see you see you in a long time and i know we missed you but i want to know who do you think is going to be the kind of the day democrats bernie sanders or hillary clinton i love bernie. i know hillary alone why i believe usually many times because she's got she's the best financed she hasn't cool

credible resume bernie sanders is a wonderful guy and a lot of things she says need to be said and amazing appeal to the youth and you've got a love of music guy but hillary is so well entrenched on so if she's not indicted if they don't get her on something from she's going to run and she's going to get the nomination and in my opinion she'll be the heavy she's a heavy favorite now in las vegas to win because they'll probably haven't found. the nuanced right guy probably you know of you know a girl of time trump if you were of time because he speaks the truth and he's forceful he would be rough but they have all the candidates every candidate has weaknesses but hillary is well entrenched and we have an electoral system in america that i don't necessarily agree with. but the state votes are what whoever wins in that state you get their full electoral count so i live in california my

vote is meaningless hillary clinton will win california this debate she will win the california electoral votes if you're a democrat living in utah your vote is meaningless the republican candidate will win the nomination to win the election in will in in utah so it comes down to ohio and florida those 2 states will decide the election and whoever wins those 2 states and i would make hillary the favorite the most disappointing candidate has been jeb bush i know jeb a long time used to be on my show in miami and i can't believe that he's lost all of gravitas it is a little something's missing which of his bright the something that i love is this was a great guy that is to liberal for the republicans. he's trying not to be liberal

they used to be a big liberal base in the republican party big moderately one of the greatest politicians i own that was george romney mitt's father who was a liberal republican governor of michigan. that they were evaporated you know final the republic of the republicans case it is probably was a liberal high yelled he came from the b.b.c. . for many years you worked for scene and iconic american all-american network and now you're all embarking on working for the russian network was that conflicting for you know was inflicting one they distribute our program they have the r d i will say this they have never interfered with half the shows it could critical of food. they have never taken anything out i've never heard anything from them don't do this don't ask this don't interview that person. so i'm i'm look i'm

a communicator and in my whole career of there are serious 58 years i have never. had a boss a general manager a program director come over to me and say don't have this guest don't ask that question now that never happened after the b.b.c. when i worked there. catherine wiley from the press association and i just want to play you thought piers morgan wasn't a success for them c.n.n. as you were and does you watch many of his shows i watched a few my problem with piers was nothing personal but he was the end to this is what i was as and so there of it was all about him so he used the word i a lot and i just so when i was asked this i was asked i said look i like them

personally but that's not my type of show i don't i don't break guests and i don't i don't make it about me the guest is in a prop i didn't enjoy it and i would say that about any host who i felt. i didn't serve his audience well i think piers did not do that i didn't like that type of interview. i understand he's back in london. how does your guest will be. larry is there anybody that you didn't get to meet that you would love to have met it's right your career is there one person that stands out clearly other than me that you think. i mean james garfield then look like you. fidel castro i would have loved it castro i went to heaven if you still can still call me still. he ran his could he had his country along even any person ever i don't think anybody ran a country for 60 years and he's

a fascinating person to be a revolutionary came down from the hills i was on the radio the morning he marched i was on the radio in miami the morning he marched into. and i've always had a fascination with him i want to have and it's a beautiful silly and we still haven't been able to work about ted turner tried to get him for me because ted to fish with them a lot and he's a baseball guy and i like baseball odds are most tried to make something of with that but it would have been castro i missed ice cream well no you still can. oh i would go tomorrow to. preach and i will work up the road to my whole. and all the interviews you've done which is moved you the most emotionally whether it's a spiritual leader you met or probably less likely but a politician or somebody who's given a personal testimony of war crimes whatever what sort of what's in your memory

what's the most powerful is the very good question. i've had some great over the years i've been blessed to a bit of you know 8 presidents. and there's so many one i've interviewed jackie robinson martin luther king but the most emotional interview. was with the new york city cop. this cop. we booked him and i had the know what the story was i just knew that he was on the new york city police force and that was shot in an incident in central park and he was in a wheelchair and and paralyzed for life and he had a little child who he couldn't feel so i was 3 years old and he came with his wife and child and to tell his story and his story was that

his father was a cop his grandfather was a cop he wore he's the worst of the police in uniform public relations the city of new york and i says what happened he said he was there was a series of a bike that fits in central park some people were stealing bikes and he was on patrol driving in a squad car with his fellow patrol and they spotted this black kid with a brand new schwinn bike and he got out of the car and was approaching a kid and the kid shot to shot. he really didn't feel pain he remembered a puff of smoke coming out of this thing him of the falling down a member the right in the ambulance the game last rites of the catholic church and he thought he was going to die anyway survived but he paralyzed that down his his

wife was pregnant at the time gave birth to this little boy who has never been able to touch. and what happened was he. he wondered why did this boy issue. and the boy was in jail. you know when as a minor he was 17. and he was in for attempted murder. i don't know what the sentence was but anyway he went to visit the kid. and the kid came out in the cell the kid and he said to the kid why did you shoot me. and the kid said. i've been saving for this bike for 4 years working to deliver groceries. i'm an a student and i finally got my bike. and you with that tend to stop me today that tend. to stop me what are you

doing with this bike and then become said i asked him. well would. what is would we do and then the kid said to him. would you have stopped me if i were white. and the cop said he had to think about it and just the fact that he had a think about it made him understand oh he's wrong we could have a gun it was his brother's gun he was holding it wasn't member had anything wrong with him but he is a kid stopped 10 times because he had a new bike just because he was black and frustration and. bam. and the cop.

is the fart at the top became the kid's big brother and he got him out of jail and the kid came. thank. you. i tried army and i think that's so i am glad u.s. that course you know they think it just in news and everything just flows were a viable it but you cross. the legend that was larry king speaking to me back in 2015 before the birth of black lives matter protests across american cities during the obama administration and the trumpet ministration condolences from all the team hear it going underground we'll be back on wednesday when we continue to bring you stories not on

so-called mainstream media we'll be speaking to the united nations relief and works agency in gaza about whether israel is breaking the 4th geneva convention over coronavirus vaccination but also be a member of the 20 divisor reboard a former intelligence officer until then even talk. telegram. was a pandemic you know born into. commentary . we can do better we should.

everyone is contributing. but we also know that this crisis on forever challenges create the response. so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. right now there are. people who are overweight or obese it's profitable to self. and sugary and salty and addictive it's not at the individual level it's not individual willpower and if we go on believing that never change this obesity epidemic that industry has been influencing very deeply the medical and scientific establishment. so what's driving the obesity

epidemic it's corporate profit. because so few number 4 months my fighting only coming for them in the long run this is important for influence in november and so done a lot of focus and stuff to get a. lot of was on the ball but i did just that they had nothing to do. she really was you make an. agreement to your strength. turned on by from the sun on my book you go google british course there's enough of them off the top. i

mean the guys who are dead and of course that doesn't want any of the. mall to. pick up. to take a. leave. i think the headline. riot police beat back antilock time protests across europe after coded restrictions that item and it comes after countries face a shortfall in deliveries of coded fax or use the supplier astra zeneca latest aborn it can only provide 60 percent supported it promised prompting some e.u. states to look for alternatives. you're forced to find a new source in order to get fast delivery of reliable vaccine we have concluded a treaty today under which russia will deliver a vaccine.