russia interfering meddling in american politics never spoken out like that love at the united states medals in every country's internal politics here so a mixed bag patrick but as i like to do i'd like to stress is that it is dictations story russia gate has bled into policy and that's something that we all worried about go ahead with something that we were warning about from the very beginning is the danger of allowing a sort of official conspiracy theory to permeate into you know public life into the national discourse and of and ultimately into foreign policy those who are the most dangerous part of it and that's very regrettable unfortunately and i think this the fact that none of this actually makes sense from a logical point of view and it's purely based on power politics internal u.s. power politics this doesn't really bode well for the united states as a world power as a sort of competent world power at the top of the sort of the you know the

governing hierarchy of the global is late stage empire i suppose you could call it and it's not really about competence anymore it's about being in power and you keep hearing this domestically in power the transition of power and power this is kind of a new thing in america we didn't always used to talk like this back through history the power is with the people and normally politicians and government are serving at the pleasure of the electorate at the end of the day but that seems to have basically inverted blend decent pieces interesting he's talking about how the old cold war paradigm was defined by the west being capitalist christian and democratic and the soviet bloc in the being communist atheist and authoritarian and this is kind of flipped right now in a strange way i would call it instead of capitalism in america you've got crony capitalism. and what i would call suicide socialism in terms of policy atheism is

definitely in the ascendancy in america despite what the christian right might be where they're at and you instead of democracy you have a plutocracy quite clearly and that really coalesce is with power so these dialectic seem to have flipped and in terms of foreign policy they're still going to double down on this rhetoric about we're democratic nations and d. 10 this is the new sort of al growth of the g 7 this is the g 7 plus india south korea and australia and that and biden's really going to use this word we're the leading democracies of the world the high council of democracy and this will use this to sort of try to legitimize whatever policies coming down the pipeline god knows what you know the middle east might be in store for or what eastern europe might be in store for but you have these micro-managers now back in power. after dinner how is the electorate in the united states what they think about elections

right now so i mean it is just laughable on its face ok of course this is the 10th thing is it's going to be a substitute for the united nations and be militarized it will mirror nato we seen this movie before it ends badly you know the interesting thing you know from the russian side they always expect the worst which they say they should that's a reasonable position ok you know who they want to have president you know trump or clint jenner or trump or biden and just this is ridiculous and it's the it's kind of sophomore and criminology that we've all gotten used to unfortunately but there is a little bit of a difference here since the cold war we had every single incoming and ministration wanting some kind of reset that was the term they used when obama came to power. but that's not the case right now that's not the case now at all i mean it's the the the new administration. as darted out openly hostile and then you know and once

on him hostile and another of talking about the possibility of extending the the new start treaty which you know we all know historically arms control agreements have linkage ok so if mr blinken thinks otherwise he should have his job and i'm pretty convinced he should navistar but that's a topic for another program go ahead. well according to the waiters to information biden said ministry is going to extend the creek they they they said they would extend it for 5 years it was all there was open your position created from victoria nuland who is now deputy secretary of state you know a pretty important position for someone who is responsible for the deaths of about 13000 people in ukraine you know she was responsible for this transfer of power as they all that but in fact it was her biology school in which at least 38 policemen died you know hundreds were mean and they called it peaceful demonstrations so

unfortunately we're dealing here with just a completely twisted you know vision or the universal of the war that these people have i'm very glad that back accused of the water power yes indeed it was not in fashion in the united states but in the soviet union the what oh what's very important in the beginning you know when bolsheviks can compel soviet oh you know we hold the power that was the slogan that lenin used when he seized power in 1700 so basically i'm not against any leftist your your i'm against the tyrian leftist ideology i'm not against liberal ideology i'm against this but the new theory invariant which they have now unfortunately are starting to have in the united states and in that sense again patrick got it absolutely right when he said that the old rules have somewhat been. flipped you know this they start i'm here i'm

going to quote an article by our friend glenn discern on our q.'s website i think it kind of summarizes what patrick just said the liberal international order has attempted to recast the form a capitalist corman is your pipe with an imperial authoritarian divide however the ideological incomplete media incompatibility between american liberalism and russian conservatism is less convincing for example not fall for best that russia michael mcfaul cautions against which in smith areas conservative ideology committed to christian traditional theme with family values for views it as a threat to liberal international or the end of quote well indeed the roles have been flipped i mean and the other funny side of it is that gordon actually did not plan to be you know that why you know. a knight in shining armor defending christian values he had a lot more modest aspire nations when he came to power in the year 2000 i think you

want the crash to be a normal east european country you know. expanding its connections to the west developing its economy in course with the united states and with your opinion about the problem is that these people you know this ideology pushed him into the conservative camp if you want and made him different christian values even more than he would probably like to you know you know it's interesting is that the certainly ideas of georgia cannily of the american ambassador to the soviet union at the very end of the 2nd world war any came with his famous telegram in foreign affairs you know and it was confirmed to contain the soviet union which i think it's very interesting because that's come back into vogue my comic files name is already been mentioned here but you have these neo cons and i now i have a new phrase obama comes because that's who's the limit by the. white house they

like to you know bandy that about but they don't completely overlook what can it actually had to say when the soviet union came to the end and the warsaw pact dissolved then expanding nato would be a catastrophic mistake ok why don't you quote that part of the can in. legacy here go ahead patrick jump it no it is a it's a great point and just to carry on from what demon was saying to the dialectic they're trying to construct is that you know the west is liberal russia is authoritarian and you know anything east is authoritarian and that's the dialectic but really you have to look at the new phenomenon which peter you've just alluded to which is liberal authoritarianism and sort of enforcing global wolken if for instance and if you look at how the media was covering the syrian war for instance in the early days a lot of it was you know we need to liberate these people who the community is being suppressed they do the same with russia as well they champion the kurdish

cause because the kurds are woke the kurds are l.g.b. too friendly and this is what we need to get behind they're like us basically we need to support them and so that's the kind of resin d'etre that's driving the under. but you have the paradox of realism in the sense that you know if you look at the way can waltz into all the cold war years you know during the cold war to construct a this paranoid was based on bipolar power distribution globally ok but what you have now is it's never changed the liberal international order liberal internationalism israel ism because you have countries like the united states whoever is the most powerful has the most resources has the most capabilities in terms of the us its hard power soft power with media and also smart power with n.g.o.s that's a new development in terms of you know will to disrupt destabilize a. country of sensually throw it's government in a coup or what not that's was

a really articulated very well by the great you know international relations scholars during the cold war because they were really concentrating more on hard power and you know just general heavyweight bout basically but you know that's the paradox of realism is that realism still governs the liberal international order it's of it's of the liberal international order is a farce and the press don't cover the subterfuge because then that that takes the you know the it gives the game away the last 30 seconds before we go to the break is just amazing how these people confuse historical and old you know when mccoll colds. you know cold. or the need to contain russia he forgets that 50 years late in 100-1000 now and you know when that neighbor was expanding

kevin gave an interview to told us friedman all the new york times where he said the expansion of nato was a mistake and that we should fight it is spoken dane and russia in the same way france now go when he can bad will happen to all the capital he'll to the kristallnacht in germany in 1038 they get zapped replica of kristallnacht was in kiev you know when you create a nationalist boy couldn't russian banks it was the same as me. you know you really have to look at me about these people just don't know history in their own willing to learn it here ok i'm going to jump in here we got to go to a short break and after the short break we'll continue our discussion and some real meat stay with hearty. guys as well as a model that. didn't help well reducing our. that's undercutting but what's good for markets is not good for the

global economy. because so much going on there for months smoke fighting only coming for them in the moment the one who's been brought up one to november the 2nd one photosensitive a. lot of muslims have all but they just either get nothing. she is or was you make a. general bar from the sun no mark most books you go to the british course there's enough of them stuff. i mean the guy. that doesn't want any of the. biggest.

political. shows seem wrong on all quotes just don't call. me lol he's yet to shape our disdain he comes to educate and in games from an equal speech trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. in 24 you know bloody revolution of. the demonstrations going to be relatively peaceful political protests to be creasing movado. revolution is always spontaneous

or is it your goal or. put pretty well through me in the new bill is that i'm a new school in need of the former ukrainian president recalls the events of 24. those who took part in this today over $5000000000.00 to assist ukraine in these an article that will ensure a secure and prosperous and democratic. welcome of the crossed up where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing some real knows. where to go back to you must go i mean you sent up africa to an article of from the atlantic which was so interesting we should actually talk about it it was published in the atlantic on january the 19th and it styled what to do with trumpets and if i

could read the subtitle here the proper response to these extremists is not counterterrorism it's mental hygiene explain the last sentence how do you interpret that well in order to talk to started correctly your must be familiar with the sword your drill press your psychiatry because it was a very soviet idea that anyone who disagrees with the mainstream is nots you know he's somehow not normal you know he needs to be correct that the soviets even invented a special term for it and they called it all kind of schizophrenia you know these people just don't perceive. the new york times perceives it that means they must be . you know what that means i'm not normal and it's amazing you know that the author stuff 1st just speaks about repression to speak about putting in jail everyone who basically was in any way involved in the action at the capital i think it was

a crime and there should be consequences but putting people in jail for between 2 years for 3 minutes of self aggrandizing like the jack angel or whatever his name was that's that's cruel you know that's abnormal but let me quote what mr graham who writes in that plane take. them all in forstmann should come down in charge of all the insurrectionists from the flexcar guys to the greatness posing for photos the bigger with which federal prosecutors have been pursuing them proves that the united states has not been corrupted completely reasons exist to hold such people as these that's the end of the quote so basically it reminds me of my us you know when in the soviet union. dissidents were 1st of all names and sheen you know if you participate in some kind of a demonstration you know if you disagree openly then you are

a good normal you should be ashamed and yes sometimes you should be put in prison and of course the west is much more impressive than the east you know just to preempt all their future questions what happened in moscow on sunday you know these people who want to know how many to go free they could get you know they could demonstrate some kind of a stage and if they had millions behind them they would come there as we did in 1901 we protested against the communist regime but they wanted to prove a case and they wanted a clash with police so 4000 of them which means you know every person for 3000 people live in moscow moscow is a city of 12000000 people so police says there were 4000 well they say the. 440000 even if there were 40000 it's just a bomb person for 300 moskowitz they came to the police and they have scuffles with police using children as human shields you know got is all of 1415 years of age

that's not democracy and will happen soon tonight the states simply because you were near the building since it is simply because you were hit in something stupid the federal prosecutors and off to you and so on and that blanket mob view is a signal of long corruption ok obviously all 3 of us and i'm sure our viewers agree that protest is signed as long as you do it legally in without any use of violence and i think that should be a universal thing that we all should embrace here but patrick here then the the a bit it's not about the events on the capital for goodness sake ok this is just a cudgel here ok because the the the impending purge was our it had been invasion before. the events on the counter also but i mean this just goes back to something that we talked in the 1st part of the program is that there is a liberal totalitarianism in play here and it is all about intolerance and and the refusal to have

a debate i mean it's better to be the platform someone and disappears someone be monetized them instead of being gauging them in this is what this ideology has come to go ahead you know it's but it's pretty clear looking at the rhetoric i mean this piece by the atlantic is just unbelievable but in a way it's a good it's a good sort of lesson of what the sort of mindset is at least in the coastal mainstream media echo chambers but what the direction of travel here is clearly the real the real thing is in domestic terrorism your direction of travel is the federal reserve federal power for the power of the federal government versus everything else basically and so this is this is how it's shaping up the partisans on the left are mazing the democrats. is if you look at the output over the last 5 years it's been russia russia russia and there you know they're saying q and on this this online large conspiracy is like the equivalent to al qaida or isis but

you know terms of we talked about russia gate actually affects us foreign policy i mean so that conspiracy theory has like real world implications global implications in fact but the problem is you have the liberal intelligentsia you have people who are populating the cabinet right now they teach at harvard they teach at all these top ivy league universities they've been telling their students absolute fiction for the last 5 years and these people are in charge i think this really there's a degradation of not not not just discourse but there's a moral degree degradation in america at the intellectual at the so-called elite level the main mainstream media level where they don't care they want to blame the internet for the post truth world when in fact they created the post truth world government federal government mainstream media the if you look at the obama administration the how they wielded federal power how they politicize the

department of justice that's what you're going to see under the biden harris administration is a really very authoritarian very much politicizing every agency his cabinet selections are all based on political identity practically so it means everything is politicized so this is like obama $2.00 obama stablish federal power in the executive branch like more than any other president in some cases and now you're going to see the full politicization of everything that it out through all the different civil service and federal agencies you know you know you know a looking at. the role discourse in the u.s. more and more often you hear the. term you. deprogrammer reprogram trump suborders again this echoes of the soviet union or maybe you know their mission failed mission and i would like to say is the create the new man ok and

they fail but we see another attempt being laid out here in the us right now is to create a new person once i guess not to be politically correct and what it does is it in a gauge i mean in my opinion i am not really productive herbie is that this is an attempt to negate there will be the entire. renaissance of western thinking i mean almost every single quarter they're trying to crush it ok and it's remarkable that it comes up it's coming from the west go ahead. you're absolutely right and just like in the search union in 2 stages the 1st stage is a cold though demonization of your opponent i mean m s n b c mr haas you know. on m b c he said that a trump support us should be treated as a force who would just walk freely m.r.i.'s simply because they're white rather

than bro and most of them out of court so this is someone. who says it all imus and b c a former department for homeland security official juliette k.m. agrees that we should treat make america great again movement as a terrorist movement now trump as it's also meanwhile the again out of court so that the 1st stages of the toward the demonization of their opponents you know that all demand is a bad man he's terrible now the creation of the new map is just amazing you know in a 1st thinks which is a magazine you hold to 2 problems with christianity protestantism there was a amazing article current truman just published recently where is he right. the people inside the protestant congregation such as salt and baptist those of them who do not believe critical race theory are normally considered christians by the by their farewell protestant and there is

a big debate can you be christian and be white at the same time well that's that's exactly what the bolsheviks were arguing about like can you be a communist why not be an appropriate area well yes if you are. if you can be you know if you're over came your class privilege if your knowledge they would say if you overcame your white privilege i mean this is the same basic obedience received an a but in a way kind of worse because they've been here for stablish where the energy is now you must conform to that identity and if you're white well that's going to be kind of a tough thing to do i mean it's not you know a prayer of healing your heart suit mines ok and i mean they're actually making making a case where you can not be redeemed again this is part of our western political culture here many a time i'm not advocating europe made of our model one just look where i belong from this home and do here she says that 1st that woman movement has to be

decapitated trump is to be isolated he's forward should be embarrassed and then trump should be mate mate forced to repudiate them that's exactly in 1000 searches in russia you know people party and they repudiate their force before they were executed they had to see all these people who were my friends they're all traitors you know i absolutely have nothing to do with them and then these people. were isolated and then i believe a position inside the party was decapitated so if these are the same to know which is same warts i would say ok now i'm in the what i'm sorry. not the democrats or the whatever you call the left which will probably. end up being the authoritarian right very soon they talk about inclusive a-t. they talk about diversity but only in ethnic terms or political identity terms not in terms of political beliefs or for instance that the term nationalism has been

merged to mean white nationalism white supremacy all of us has been kind of you know put together in one omelette by the media by mainstream discourse and so nationalism is been kind of demonized as but that's absolute nationalism versus globalism that's a very real political choice that some of that reflects the reality of the of the global situation but it's being basically crushed so that that gives you a clue as to the direction of travel of where the real policy is is going with the people who are basically doing this what to again the danger is if you marginalize a large group of people you demonize them you marginalize them that the ultimate goal is to disenfranchise them eventually and when you do that you will create the something that doesn't exist now to compare that trumper white militias and so

forth to to isis or al-qaeda doesn't exist i've i have seen it in your job in your settlement but rather out of my bed creating a political party and then you know worry about you know i want to make my guest lemonade near a muslim i want to make our viewers watching and you know our next member. of the. right now and then on. the way it's profitable to sell through the seas and sugary and salty and i don't think. it's not at the individual level it's not. individual well power and if we go on believing that never change this obesity epidemic that industry has been influencing very deeply the medical and scientific establishment . so what's driving the obesity epidemic it's corporate profit.

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