tv Cross Talk RT February 1, 2021 3:30am-4:00am EST
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to discuss these issues and more i'm joined by my guest george samueli in budapest he's an author of you tube or at the gavel and here in moscow we have to me because he's a political analyst and editor at you know just me internet media project hi joe cross titles in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i was appreciative it was going to georgia in budapest but as i say way introduction george you know during the whole of the rage of russia gave the fake cokes to the public had to go through during the entire trump and ministration that the truck was too cozy with putin though oh when the new start agreement the last remaining major arms control agreement between the russian the united states his administration had very strong demands claim that russia was cheating without showing any proof and then we go in the 2nd week of the biting ministration and
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apparently be american position is completely collapse i've explained go ahead. well this is an excellent question because. if your goal of the trumpet ministration. post 3 conditions on the russians was when he said that there would only be a one year extension of a 5 year extension. he said that the russians had to impose a freeze on their nuclear weaponry. and so he would then and in all of these months are the russians said i didn't was because i meant to mention and they said the chinese had to take part as well. the russians said no to all 3 and. and i was and then the viking people came in and essentially caved all of them said they went for a 5 year extension and they said they didn't say anything about the freeze and they dropped the demand about the chinese so russians got everything and the amazing
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thing is that the us media that made the comment about this is a really terrible business this is good you know chose by just doing things like going to nigeria i said if it had been a trump were just simply accepted all of russia's dumont but i do think it's important to emphasize this is not any kind of a signal that the by and it is ministration intends to pursue friendly relations with russia i think the local various reasons why they caved to these russian demands of something we're going to go into but basically for the 1st time since the start of the cold war russians have developed a strategic superiority over the united states and this is caused great anguish in the united states and they need time to catch up so that's i think the reason why they decided that well you know we have you know we need to sign an agreement now
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whatever the condition of the russians impose here. even if it's a george has got to jump on me because i know that's exactly where i want him to go because we have we can judge supposed to this immediate agreement to russian demands on this very very important arms control agreement but at the same time deem and this is the 1st administrative since the end of the cold war that is coming over glee aggressive towards russia it's a very interesting dynamic going on here agree to this arms control agreement being extended but at the same time we do know from that the readout of the call between putin and biden is that they went through the litany of hacking into and all of these things that you know they invoked russia is involved in domestic american politics so we'll talk about the bunny situation the 2nd half of the program so it's a very it's very odd mixture isn't it diva oh it just shows that evil has many faces i'm in you're you can get crazy you know what
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a waste no but just possibly and it's just amazing you know trump's chief negotiator his special envoy for nuclear talks marshall being silly he came out recently with criticism of biden i think it's the 1st criticism that i'm reading in the mainstream press it don't just 24 i was told by didn't keep to squander the most significant leverage we have all what russia beating sleek tweeted and it was cold and by there was to draw on it which is already a victory because you know an open trial supported cold without criticism in that involved you don't know what i was just explaining to me talk you out of what george just said you know this agreement was signed in 2010 and it would cap on the number of warheads the 2 sides can craft it's about $1500.00 and yes american so i'm trying to made this new month 1st you know the sickroom and can be extended for the period up to 5 years but you can extend for one you know for 2 years for 3
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years so. wanted to extend it for just a minute here on a very tough condition which george just mentioned you know that china would be included china with its i mean 300 war council would be included and the and also russia will comfortable to freeze on all of its nuclear development russia of course. refused because. the united states has just walked one if you knew clearly allam the broader and which is estimated. amount of money that's official between of on point to treat endorse and bonbon $5.00 trillion dollars they would have a new strategic goal 'd but you know that go into a crowd. replaced by a new body stickney's silo in the course of the next 10 years that was going to cost at least $100000000000.00 and they already have a plan you know to maintain this me so i do you wait 2070.
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but it would cost a few $100.00 so obedience 0 dollars so what kind of was just you know buy it just quote too late and things to be and he saw that it was just too expensive so what he suggested was ok we keep pressure on russia but let's make it to be cheaper you know ok let's retain the agreement that we have right now there was opposition to it from 2 crazy people bob was drawn bolton who said the united states was given up on it's you know superiority jumble of books and the other one was a new with who has knowledge if you g secretary or state and it just shows you know people going to get crazy in many ways you can be a tough american nationalist like tromp or you can be a liberal interventionist played by them that their results is the same huge danger and possibly a new war that would annihilate the mankind you know it's very interesting george but again the what makes this if ministration different than others is that we have
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similar. jake sullivan. how a position of great power and these are in plain can just well these are brushy gators ok they would be a place propagated this hoax here so as we worried over the last few years that this hoax would seep into policy and it is seeping into policy. the apparently during the readout of the the 2 presidents conversations them the afghan was mentioned which was completely debunked by the us military but it's still in the discourse right here so we have this we have this russian gate mentality bleeding into policy here so it's going to be very very difficult because then there are critics going to turn around and say that you're being soft on russia instead of being good on policy for hedging though that's a very important point because you can't really have meaningful arms control.
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without a general policy of daytime money which is why the aunts control treaties of the night $170.00 it's a subsequent in the 1980 s. were a success because they were constant also although a general policy of preparation on the back in the seventy's went with the signing of the salt agreement and then the negotiating was sold over even that was at the time in which there was a partnership between the united states and the soviet union and while the united states played it didn't support us assault the message policy there was a beat up on the ship of sorting out global problems and clearly ending the war in vietnam. negotiating a peace settlement in the middle east and signing a variety of very important treaties including the chemical and biological weapons
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conventions and so on so that was the. probably shouldn't cost control were part of that now the the biden people and of course it was the same thing with obama before that they think they can we could just separate alston troll that's a good thing but just off the top but we will assume these hostile aggressive policy in other areas worthless it doesn't work that i watch the troll just fails which is you know why the obama policy on sort of an os control agreement with iran which you know iran gives up uranium enrichment in return for these sanctions whenever we're at because obama didn't visit this as part of a record one with iran so that's that's in the biden mentality because i thought the syria all stopped policy in other areas towards russia so i think this this extension of new start up will ultimately be doing. it and it diminish it remains to be and to be resolved insists that this can function in a in
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a vacuum because if you look at blinken this. testimony from during his nomination process i mean the. big stream. liberal interventionist i mean talking about continued nato expansion georgia was focused on considerably quite a lot of leaves talking about democracy in venezuela considering what's going on in the united states here i mean that this is just a blast from the past and we know that there was a change of power to the 2016 because a lot of people were sick and tired of these policies now in the week where we're back to the future here all over again it really shows that these elites don't understand how the world is changing and these elites are demanding the maintenance of american tim gemini when that that that moment of the gemini and the unocal moment is long long over their swimming against the but the current year go ahead
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and. i just talked and you know gorgeous. absolutely right you cannot have a real design movement without good bump and that reminds me of this h. e. trade with the soviet union the late egypt you know when we had this excellent ambassador from the united states jack matlock. i think he's leaving through trade you're right now because he really believed in the united states and when he represented the united states in the soviet union it was a different battery so you know now he see how that country is destroyed by you why you always get so mad when he was asked by russians that you know he just ok we have these geneva accords which are also agreements what is there that prevents us from creating a good relationship and you know from. calling me as you say that the soviet union tries to change in society it has to be count and you got to treat if you want to hire will join with us and we became a new country the same story with the united states no you cannot obs reduction
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it's not actually an ounce reduction to what happened was that the in crete to have a cap on their m. on the warrants that they that they can have but obviously a you cannot be a peaceful person and of the. bible hesse i mean victoria nuland is personally responsible for kind of continued grain she said added that yeah it's a new quest to be the head of the new government though it was recorded and she didn't deny it but he and again he spruced on that are responsible for a lot of things terrible things the company in the middle east ok you know about that you're here getting that are great and there's a bit of your discussion and some real needs. there's a survival guide facing the starts at least so. sure
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ok let's go back to diva here in moscow. a a figure a russian citizen has been profiled quite a bit in western media over the last few months and as we speak right now there are protests in moscow and i would imagine other major cities here and it's all focused on a gentleman named alexi. who is not only explain to her audiences and explain why western audiences are being told is not true. well 1st of all i would start my story and by the what's that there is nothing new under the sun i os kamar american viewers stool look at the papacy you know the names like pete ski and you know the soccer or football under star was actually have big feet there but all of these tiny feeders that just both up and disappear you know the same story with the
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holland you know under it but it's you was no less float into the united states when he was taken into u.s. from terrorists in chechnya in the ninety's and he was portrayed as hero and the united states says that if he's due date he was detained for a few days that means the trust sure he's a bad guy on t.v. and will want people jewish and you know i'm gay but needs to get off the crane you rejoined russia. this development and he was blotted out the whole different radio free europe next morning and no i didn't as they scare us what type of story but. he is actually a very jaundiced i'd like them up because barbie is a professional she's a professional don't know how he's something quite traumatized not to open a figure she started he's career asked sam why no minority shareholder that's what he's profession you know you have a big company you buy bunk percent of the stock and then you make the life over the
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company an unbearable aren't you you your the cool with this sort of all. money that's what he is strategy and he's very good at that and he did exactly that we've with the stage here because 1st he spotted extremist nationalist you know he said that he's against illegal migration there are too many more slums and more school he told them names you know that is all recall that then he realized that there were many people that market so he tried to make freedom elections and then he discovered that these nice was also taken by the older guys like overly novice who have such a law he's in with the west you cannot break it so he decided to concentrate on corruption and the problem is that you know the east you documentary that supposedly medians which people have seen is no for the plot because it turned out that he used you know any major we have seen it write it was all embellish
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you know that that was doesn't want the will to put. these stories throughout the day and years it was lost on him by a human who was started by the jonas but this is you know the strength to own of ali is in making scandals and me you know are people on bearable he's a clay sicko reda he is a questionable minority shareholder who makes the wire for a company miserable and he did exactly that you know and she traced to each his part and parents you know he was to be at the same time at politico emigre in germany who was fault poisoned by russia that she wants to be a political figure inside russia she wants to be a political prisoner and at the same time to be complaining their own pressure she has a suspended he has actually to suspended sentences and he was allowed to travel abroad for pro round russia in fact to campaign for several years oh those people were very dismayed by this because another person would not be allowed to do it but he
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had special treatment and off to here you don't hear german it finally hit the same hole wasn't quite as thought the russian citizens. russia if you are on a suspended sentence and you don't show up. you know and bite you go to jail you hope that's what happens in all the countries your on probation i mean i mean let me go to george you're i mean i'm assuming considering that his background and his behavior is that he wanted to he came back to be arrested so protests could start so western media can talk about their guy and in russia i mean it's so patently obvious i mean also it's like one white dove it sounds like this is the kind of scenario here that's being played out go ahead george yes that's that's exactly right 3 dean was given an excellent summation of the funniest korea that. he's role is to provoke trouble. 1 in the in russia i mean
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that's that's what his goal handlers in the west in visit for him they don't really and visit him as organizing any political movement because they know that he doesn't really enjoy any kind of support within russia and it's a lot 1 of very tedious hard work to build a serious political organization that can compete in the elections so his role is to provoke trouble within russia now let's hold demonstrations for which you know the sikhs official permission. the police come they break up the demonstrations there the western media to film all of this and then the western media portrayal of this and the usual western voices screaming at the top of their voice is that of the crackdown fascism again in russia. 2 putin is
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showing is is his jack boots and so on michael mcfaul is on hand to be on on. the single t.v. show that's that's the the how the western visit is his role in that i mean it's not funny. but a serious political figure in russia if you had any real political weight we would have witnessed it during the whole constitutional referendum of last year and i mean that was his is big moment i mean no it's not you can make an impact but in fact the constitutional referendum came and went it was a big success didn't know funny make a make an impact but in fact the constitutional referendum came and went was a big success for putin not funny made no real showing so so that you know that just shows what a fundamentally what a lightweight here this in russia you could look useful you and i have talked about
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it before i mean i'm i'm still going to understand if he's he makes the claim that he was poisoned by some kind of bilby choke agent inside of russia he was allowed to leave russia to go to germany for treatment he could maintain that claim and then we have for some bizarre reason what western intelligence are somehow confirming this instead of should have been kind of the other way around with the physicians to treated him and so he comes back to the country claims to try to kill him i think demon can you explain to me how that works i mean if you're being hunted down why do you go back in the country to torment you go ahead well obviously. not all he does will be. there julio try to poison him because otherwise he will log on to such a dreadful place you know russia haunt he'll steal one here and that he will be arrested when he returns on purely legal grounds like any other person you'll
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always state you know. even if you have a suspended sentence and you will have brought that's old age if you. give from the state is specially during the been de mint you know when people come up trouble and then you always state period and you want to rejoin them because of mohali know there are sanctions imposed on russia. going to freeze they're going to try to freeze lost on that on television so for all a bet you want to crush him you'll of course not only is more harmful than the any . corrupt officials in russia if you costs more money to the country. and i would continue on what george just said if no money had real support he would ask for a real legal demonstration he would be given permission at some big square in a more school at some big stadium he was offered that you know he's doing well for that but you know he would have a 1000000 people that would make an impression that brought him if he doesn't have
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a 1000000 people so he's people when they were offered legal squarest in russia in moscow they refuse they set foot in square well if you're so pushkin square it's basically a tiny space on both sides of the main street of most of their sky have where dissidents to you know they ages 7 just used to have small protest actions like 6 or 7 people right arrested by police so it's famous historically but it's not feat for a big demonstration so they did it in britain one tentacle ash with police you know they deliberately wanted some people to get there arrested by police so it's famous historically in part it's not feat for a big demonstration so they did it in pretty one typical ash with police you know they do brick you want some people to get the rest up and yes to make these publicity in the west yes it will be bad for russian position because yes i won't use because of the number one figure on the program lease he's unable to make a nation's he's an absolutely dictatorial person you know his way he is my way or
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highway you know you can you will destroy their position you. when you address the issue that. some of these protests we saw last week rape they brought minor. knowing that there could be by. this an intentional yet more western media. with small children i think are going to be a main reasons about why the teenagers who come i can tell you the reason why they call the book the will of the older generation but even people in their stooges and forward yes they remember how the theme of preventing just party privileges was played out you know the end of the soviet union and hollow shamelessly yeltsin used it and then in the ninety's with corruption by one country dime swarth the other the soviet union people remember it so these tricks like belgian has a mansion next to the black sea they don't walk with people who have any experience
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and who have a need to know neutral russian history what other teenagers like boys in ghost 141516 years of age they don't know that so they watch the video the. joint each other a lot of these balkan and other social networks there are some grown up people telling them oh it's going to be cool who is going to be interested in going to challenge the police you know come to the pushkin square it's going to be fun and they show up thinking that it's going to be fun because we cover much seen police violence and we haven't seen real street violence in russia for many years rush essentially much more peaceful country in that sense than france or germany and also look at the context you know what kate the west is so enraged of all people most of all to come out of moscow square at which moment in france you can all go out after 6 o'clock in the evening they have a curfew of between 6 pm and 6 am encouraged many. more they're trying.
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to most out of time but george i just went to europe when the obama administration had. was the riot as there is a sarah get in russia why did ministration will use. gentlemen one at a time want to play guest host and most of the bigger viewers for watching this year are. the world is driven by drama shaped by. the day or thinks. we dare to ask.
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