the lockdown addition of going underground is the usa you're in britain continue to arm israel in violation of countless un resolutions even as it mounts a reported land invasion of gaza complete with aerial warplane bombardment all amidst a global coronavirus pandemic after allegations of a breach of article for the geneva convention israel has now become making $5000.00 covert vaccines available to palestinian medics some believe the move is to ingratiate itself with joe biden in washington joins me now from ramallah as someone who's worked for peace in the heart of the middle east all her life she is the 1st woman to hold the seat in the highest executive body in palestine but the one strongly thanks so much for coming back on the show i'm going to 1st ask about your own covert what's it like having coronavirus given that israel has been accused of denying medical help to palestinians yes well thank you for it and that the man she inspired to be with you again. certainly i mean it's not that it

doesn't experience going through. 19 now. with me it took some. 4 or 5 weeks but it was in that city you know relaxed and they certainly. decided to show that was what did i want that system this is a sponsor that it was to provide for the end and they were being a good people under occupation according to the 1st any of the conventional and international humanitarian law and international law but that if you i mean in a way we spoke last week to the director of operations in iraq he was mentioning the 4th article of the geneva convention about medical care under occupation when israel changed all that 5000 vaccines available now to medics in west so you can yes isn't that level when you consider that there are millions of palestinians.

more than 5000000 in the west bank and gaza. and it is and as an occupier i refuse to. insist on stability as a religion or an occupier to provide a vaccine so there was a demand this afternoon and people like use that not being wrong and that system of the related discriminatory policies especially when it comes to have it now isn't going to satisfy a secular story of the waters our borders our land i think the room and everything including our resources. in a sense it's is a sponsibility to ensure that we get those mexicans now as a result of the 5000 but you have the 5000 already have. a sense too little too late but it came as an example of this outcry. people actually using it up being and not by that system manager this is the men's apartheid system now decided to give 5000 and maxine's 2 out of 5000000

words. and the sense a symbolic gesture just made accusations that is discriminatory basis system which is too bad that doesn't negate its own stability well israel of us denies it is an apartheid system i'm speaking to you from a country with with a much worse death rate but our media still has time to talk about protests in russia and military a military coup apparently in burma myanmar why do you think there is no coverage at all of military involvement as regards palestinian israeli military involvement as regards palestinian citizens. and that's because people have become desensitized the international community the international media even the social media although . they are countering and have gotten used to and you are when it comes to israeli

violence and israeli anger action against aniston and people this has become normalized to speak because the date you have listed his being that people incursions into the less than 2 major cities in saudi and had daily interactions are links are out there running sometimes and to gaza souther the thing is it has become quite a bit later team of an ongoing and lucky patient that has established a status quo so to speak where might is and exact is exempt struck any type of accountability and is acts of full impunity whether that is still ends in our become so the end this is the midterms who sound you know do not matter do not count these have become really that not even when we talk to international leaders and the politicians and diplomats somehow in horror of the occupation as has been

muted you have thousands of palestinians imprisoned there just or labeled as a status you have people can that every day hundreds since the beginning of the year and that's ok there's no violence because it's not as a list are being carried by the students so that is a starter excuse and i don't even read and view out what's happening in palestine. and it makes no difference the un secretary general antonio good terror has called for global ceasefire as a coronavirus and that make i mean the enter our director of operations said there was virtually a land invasion of gaza in the past few days. well this is something that happens on our i mean to them. it's out in space it's a free for all as a. piece of palestinian territory and people as an under its own control and they can do whatever they want to get away with it and as i said that's

why they do not the world is not in atlanta to talk about the ceasefire this you know that in places where the outdoor space or civil wars or whatever and that list and it is an ongoing occupation which is an ongoing activity action and the question actually so is and doesn't think that lies that there is no ceasefire going to listen is are not shooting it's is that is in a state of occupation and aggression and that doesn't see why it should stop otherwise it at all in order to hold israel to a counter and occupation they will demand stopping the settlement activities beginning dismantling settlements started doing stuff killing start has the militia stopped expanding building settlements and start these at things that should be demanded of his or as an occupying power but nobody does and therefore that is this is an anomalous situation that has created also a matter to behavior of many strange responses and of course is and it's beyond

accountability so nobody holds a town except for a few statements our concern and. order denunciation and matter are not active steps that dennis and pale israel argues is the balance millions that are shooting and you've seen how palestine seems more and more isolated after the abraham accords with arab nations who don the u.n. a bahrain morocco and now of having diplomatic relations with israel i mean there are calls for jared cushman drums middle east and there and his son in law to win the nobel peace prize for what he's done he will. huntress and i asking for attempted to end that that is that most irony i mean it's strange that they're still not in that you know the reality of dogs but the nominalization a sound a country this is of course a legacy account this is what he did it back to bassett palestinians and to

sanction. joined as and its occupation he took a unilateral measures that are at a legal and to be and that and this is the stone that chances are p.c. and it do not matter as occupation itself and is that is listening to sound impunity got bored right now people think well it's ok you can continue your land theft you can continue on except the fact of the next station or you can continue their victimization and oppression of honest opinions and you can get rewarded and as you know clamp use that jewelry lap roach on long battery having to black me the promise to be found the american account and order to get some kind of panties to the story out of your neck to then that gun be an obese and i shipped it dude and i got all their promises and the and only get this illusion. that i listed once

because they wanted not just to deliver palestine to this event but they wanted to leave position as and within that agent as a major power and they succeeded. i don't think he has to because it doesn't matter how many utter crap it remains as an account doctor that people have not accepted this that it is astounding outright and rotten that it is introduced you know and then and satirist and military might it knowing that if. how does that really amount add up confused and articulate between that public that it people's and their leadership and that has experiencing them as experiencing then you'd say that those countries are these neighbor lives by their recognition of israel the pursuit of happiness it doesn't own people i'm very happy with that and because they understand that what they're doing is now realizing an occupation and an illegal and cruel situation where it is and it is impunity is and i ask that it can get

away with anything and janet bush and i certainly can't and state even though and miniscule growth that he has played in order because it was a combination of the son in law question. then the treatment was that almost if your logical extreme right wing zionists leave and are seen as the ambassador there are subtle the message is and they do is to is that of course it on pedo who thinks that my land eventually can approach and the litter left approach shattered and that tends to. superimpose greater is there not a man historical palestine so well and faithful bum pale isn't one of the people i just mentioned the nobel peace prize but i know you're not backing a little for the peace prize i think it was your last day all of them i think it nice as they have been totally discredited they have become partners in an occupation now known as for feeling an agenda this is not the end americans out of

that it be said that they have only succeeded in destroying good chances are these and i think ultimately that will be held to account well yes in. there is men although as autocratic leaders as you describe them whether it be in the u.a.e. the shakes or the moroccan government would deny there's any instability created by this but as i said they yesterday's men heard anything from joe biden about the 701000 new illegal settlements that are being planned of these the british government said they were seriously concerned i think the foreign secretary yeah we have to. the u.k. at least anterior for this serious concern because it only is concerned that is question is still what that's the main problem is that you would need to take them seriously and could we continued its policies so long as they do not castrate these barrel messages and their concrete action because all this into account and at the

same time to to and to just create a new reality on the ground rather than enabling israel took there's still it's this cat and responsible and illegal policies that matter now has managed to remove all the town occupation from 3 little calexico and that you ask is that down to 2 states that and of course this is the formulation are being mounted from tehran found that this is not an occupation that this is the biblical lands or the juice and therefore to have it out to get stock on purely political situation are absolute injustice and abnormality so now i. might imagine a station cannot only stop the planets not to begin to understand them because that is executive decisions taken by account and their. legislative scissors and this elusive as i got in my car i who has made by has made executive decisions on

climate change for instance nothing on those settlements i presume nothing on the embassy in jerusalem the u.s. embassy do you personally expect i mean have you met joe biden yourself. maybe santana door but not. not recently not you expect him to change the embassy back to television he already an asset is not going to do that he said he would be open to the american consulate in jerusalem which lives the diplomatic mission to palestine and he will be open to the palestinian. entity rather still rather than to the us and the sea but he didn't say he will undo the recognition of. the captors and then moving on them to see to and in jerusalem and of course in the democratic party that is their forces including the. traffic

majority for is a good example and who are trying to hijack the democratic camp genda and to take us back to a situation where they started egypt alliance between the u.s. and dominates the american this curse and i'll stop you there more from palestinian multi peace prize award winner and then a shrug we have to this will break. that dark industry comes to life in los angeles every night. dozens of women sell their bodies on the streets many of them under-age. los angeles police reveal a taste of their daily challenge no if you're going to exploit a child here in los angeles then we're going to come after you see officers going undercover as sex workers and customers to fight a sex trade. join me every thursday on the alex salmon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics or business i'm show business i'll see you then.

the world is driven by drama shaped by hunter senators from. the day or so thinks. we dare to ask. welcome back i'm still here i would want to palestine's my senior officials don't count on us for our way one of the peaceful means for activists supporting your cause as being b.d.'s what do you make of biden's un envoy linda thomas greenfield

saying there must be complete opposition to b.b.'s and echoing in a sense the position has no on the lands and of course london's position yeah i still wanted to pat it aniston has their own means of resistance we go and if we had not. any kind of standard around distance we add terrorists and it's not acceptable if we go to the i.c.c. in order to i.c.j. and 3 and ask for a legal recourse this is not acceptable we get punished and the us to understand it is legal today you and we get only and tears a little shows and the lesson is that a complaint that the un is obsessed about is if we adopt a civil society initiative and when people can act on the basis of their conscience rather than as consumers and as investors and they don't want to be partners with the occupation and want to stand in solidarity with understand this becomes kind of

an unlicensed and countries that i mean we need and i bet he asked sounding we have adopted and. asked ms anderson losers about criminalising michael dennison assassins and you can't do that so how do you hold this and go down this again this is an access out on the freedom of choice and freedom of speech and action on their own people in the states there was a lot of. there was it is illusion that american companies that and individuals sometimes and so on that we did yes will be by detention. but you cannot avoid. going to that same sentiment drug that's that illegal. and it's really incredible is in a sense the use position brussels london and washington leave no other option open except. i don't think so i think we will continue. local

network actually that if you look at opinion it tour and go to international organizations and to. and to the engine national. you know or you know that have you know impact you know that over decades that had no impact i mean you you thank the british government for it serious concern britain. 361000000 pounds worth of arms between 20142874 1000000 between 202-4000 british aerospace here in the u.k. a huge u.s. f. 35 joint strike fighter deal we have according to britain the most robust dealing reputation while you're talking about yes we'll have activists around the world talking you expect that f. 35 joint strike and to bomb gaza. when we don't have planes we don't have to actually don't have work and this reality and i don't know to this is indian

population and their occupation so how do we add up arabs tiger i mean that's the issue it's not the war is that it has used to not that it's on f. 35 out of hand. combat helicopters and so on i guess guys that have killed thousands of people and then senator lugar's innocent got packs that once had nothing be done to make they they had lines out and he was sure that at least in the end i because we know everything that we and we make that i've been used to that is a good night. that's isn't and that's that's the this is this is understand this is willful blindness london and washington say it is about spin rockets that are causing preempting this f. $35.00 drawings by the fighting and it's all that's left. yeah does it. does you know much and i know that they know better the thing is that interest i mean is it

and is that the greatest dating partner with you know. and i'm still there and does he not just announce that it's a source of intelligence because it has the largest intelligence network in the region on a device that's part that's what. i mean it's european policy to us and right it is. the legacy of the cologne unity and our when that it is and as a white man's burden type of approach an extension of colonial times lead it to this person and to this and and usefulness of this and political candidate and that region. and economically of course are right it is also and legacy of guilt over the holocaust because it is you know that has persecuted you upset and scrimmage at the heart of course not not the palestinians not dabs not the muslims that it's something that you never did and so you have this combination of passions and of

course the lack of windle by the europeans just stand out. because they don't want to confront american policy that israel of course denies that it's any of those reasons and in fairness when there are politicians that are produced by the united states and britain who do. show concern for the civilian death toll in your country. they get accused of anti semitism bernie sanders jeremy corbyn here i'm just going to ask you how secure starmer they still call them and i know real silencing that says i'm not just b.d.s. but also criminalizing anybody are conflating anecdotes isn't it with anti-semitism this is how they managed to silence and to censor and the public discourse on their behavior of israel as though you could says in jews when we have lots of jewish study vanity groups and let us read it and it's no longer there well

i don't want to be associated with. this is a shame that lawlessness the leader the labor party has against office has jeremy corbin's behavior has been unacceptable which is wake up take the parliamentary whip in in parliament but his shadow foreign secretary says just condemning israeli atrocities is anti semitic he's just appointed that's how kaplan was an advisor do you know anything about the 200 unit or is he israeli intelligence and why do you think the british labor party has offered a job to a former worker there. well look there was also a big scandal advantages in that exposed the interference. is an alien and as he enters an intelligence people in a political decision making and they you can't do that and then they fix their point somebody who has been and the israeli intelligence and who's responsible for someone if it isn't to be an advisor this is after bad not just being on the

defensive this is an accounting to create them towards a new reality. in order to avoid any charges and this and it's starting about allostatic well as to who are wrong official circles that i'm on some of that is down on public opinion as oh not we are not part of the next conversation but within recent seconds they still keep trying to kowtow to this approach. and the criticism of is theirs and this and that they can definitely have to do thing still in and out of the lessons that were said and lacked batteries and to a point and to have you know saying that it was just people as you don't have buys it i mean this we invite that and kaplan on i suppose he would deny he's now an intelligence person and he said you did mention intelligence and when talking about it what's your take on the jeffrey at heb steam revelations in

a maxwell obviously denying any wrongdoing what did you make of the illusions made in the media around the world that robert maxwell was a mossad agent and that epstein was apparently hired he had the likings the specific parking spot i know that this is a. daily mossad and how not you know all over the place and this is one reason why many governments tell us they need this and because it's a plasterer. have they tried to kill you not recent 3 not years ago. because to stand but not understand i think that there's some sadness take to make up look i'm just trying to ease you mean being targeted by israeli intelligence that if we had time for the leader of the palestinian authority to go now you seem prof rob resins bush obama trump and you have the same leader there in the west bank and all that's happened is more settlements and more thousands of men women

and children dead. i mean it's not really really there are the palestinians as a sponsor for deceptive months and expense in and the fact that it is a strategic alliance between the u.s. and is in fact what it is elected to office is going to and had of the situation which is inherently just i mean that down the wall street or to day decisions it's very very limited i did that we do need to have elections the palestinian people should have the chance to elect their own leadership so you should have it. instead of us oddity and i've always been calling for younger men and women to take over because our leadership has become rather in well. you allude to the sexist nature that is it patriarchal corrupt a useless leadership for years since the death of us that's designed to florida i

can't say you see this. i would say that we do live in that patriarchal society yes and redo live and they may not mean it that system yes and that also they exclude a sound and i'm sad and i'm young people so we do need to work together in order to make room and they're out there to meet the challenges or the future and not just be extensions of not just i mean if you have had success there is that have the reports in the past few days of a mosque being bulldozed south of hebron there are reports of by. true but movement toward syria but there is an existential global crisis aside from bendemeer which is the climate one. i don't know whether you go along rather than berg who is up for a nobel prize itself. to talk about the illogical impact of the occupation and send 10000 trees in the northern west bank are gone they've been taken down in the

past week that yeah if you want to talk about actually good logic and disaster then i'm mentally exhausted and elliston only need to do is keep track of how many trees all of these and through trees and being uprooted and destroyed by is and the army and the settlers this is an absolute so much of it's industrial waste and there was none and there's a lot of. violations and they did dish and i ran my rant on the quality of medical the palestinian people maybe even steal our water. i mean the accusation a sense of their racist system of control and distortion you can look at and they ask. where the human eye cannot so should i tell my mental addict and son and israel is guilty of that with then and all were only a bad system that stands have a right to 3 don't censor donations for justice and do all that acts that other people enjoy we shouldn't be outside this multilateral consensus about lat makes

human life worth living this is. why we invite to israel as a method of london on going underground to back up the reputation of his government of his points and i thank you. my pleasure thank you that's it for the show will be back on saturday 30 years to the eve of the ira's rocket attack on 10 downing street here in london until then join the underground on you tube twitter facebook instagram and telegraph. that i'm going to learn how to not not out of love though they're not that i'm not

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