tv The Alex Salmond Show RT February 4, 2021 6:30pm-7:01pm EST
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side of jimmy reed and what's a scotland's national bob robert burton's scotia says excellent coverage of the huge admitted biography great from billy kay and the buttons and to view a marvelous watch and then glen miller says nobody ever cites bombs as well as billy kay does perfection and reflection jimmy reed speeches were radical delivered on velvet and alan jones says a bob showed of passed by winnie ewing watched a video of jimmy reed on parkinson as mentioned in the sure body do we need jimmy today and i was ignored cross court stimulated from what he's most famous speeches there were no hooliganism they'll be no vitalism but when a bevy n because the world is watching great man says the news she's defending to jimmy reed speech to the the upper clade shipbuilders what can very very famous speech indeed jackie blair says this is brilliant especially about douglas hume and what jack is the fed into is that the story is told by billy king in the program of
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we're using the dough to pull scottish nationalist travelling to above and supper we've told the prime minister douglas hughton and i think douglas schubert said they were using it was a scottish nationalist in his heart but a unionist in his head and got the past wrong with a ewing. the hat side of the pair that my access wrecked a wrong quoting the bob himself and finally john cooper said that's going to be a good read easter offending to the new brooklyn jimmy reed by brian mcguigan coming out in time for the festival a vast sea of the u.c. s. work and he can't wait says says john and now we turn to a topic of the day is sure the topic has dominated conversation across the planet over the last year of the the pandemic the coronavirus professor look at deal of trinity college dublin is a man who knows more about vaccines and more sed professor neal in your assessment
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where are we with this struggle that's developing between the vaccines in the one hand and the virus on the other. well that's a big question alex in a way i mean we're making great progress last night now no doubt about that i mean the rate a vaccination in the u.k. for example is spectacular we the c.n.n. israel every country is happening up with an aging company and it is awful with the virus for japanese the most important thing now is for the actually to get the vaccine out as quickly as we can because the more explanation to happen the less chance there is for the united and you variants to crop up that we're seeing more and more of you know but so far so good as a question of keeping focus now on this huge part of the nation companies and why it's a such a difference between the vaccination rate across similar countries i mean the u.k. is about 12 percent of the population already vaccinated across the european union it's more like 2 a free percent and some countries like israel are
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a roaring ahead than of vaccinated or a 3rd of the population already why such a difference between the the roll out rate and various countries. we've got we've got to get credits in israel and the u.k. alex on this one because they really got their act together you know and it is a just they don't this is simply a case of getting to supply and get no vaccine out deploying people in centers and you know the rate through which people go through centers on this thought was really important and it's why i got in early got a big on with pfizer probably paid a premium we think is the rumor netanyahu himself in the negotiating some talk about getting stuck in and then a very white house service in israel has 4 separate health regions and they really got behind it's not the u.k. similarly had a great tradition of course of science in this area you know it was already a back seat initiative that was going on even before co you see so so and i could be deployed to great effect now the rest of europe catch up no doubt one issue was there they were trying to coordinate things across the u.n. that may have slowed things down
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a bit but now for heaven's sake as you have seen in the past week the focus on brussels was a massive us mission and the germans were complaining why are we doing better and i think i'm sure they are their own pretty well casualties of of an operation. and do countries basically have the same of of priority in terms of vaccinations starting with the the most vulnerable older people in the population and walking the way through the various categories i mean for example a number of our viewers tracy and for example rotten to ask why isn't the central health worker meeting people every day as part of a job that she's not enough priority to list not begrudging the national health service workers but just asking a question to all countries of the same basic floor flu in terms of who gets vaccinated 1st and you brought me you know i mean you might see a few categories the one about the other in some countries so certainly i had my way my magic wand i'm back like everybody now i will start with the house now that
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can't be done because logistics every country will have the elderly the vulnerable the healthcare workers out front and i guess mark up and i see what you might see teachers are about fire engine man or whatever it is you see slight differences in different countries an empty lot but again the goal is to get those groups vaccinated over the course of a few weeks so even though you might be slightly down the list and someone else you'll still be in a certain category that will get the vaccine for those people as possible we're going to see a lot of dickering about you over there at this rollout we've got a top vaccines and luckily in the field the been obviously pfizer astra zeneca the chinese vaccines the russian vaccine sputnik is a new vaccine they're being developed and livingston and scotland i.v. all based on the same type of vaccine are some vaccines going to be more efficacious and others for example against the the new variants of the virus yet to come i think that science across the nothing now i just worked on this for for
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decades i suppose there are different types of vaccines of 4 main types are even before i was roughly 4 different types of acting and the pentagon the bugger last night. against one might work better than the other sort of you know the good news is all for politics the been approved now like for example the most recent one is novak's called a sort of unify seem different to the our name i've seen some that we know that we've got is you know you've got more shots on goal of a. i mean one will work better than the other along with all these different buy things are there and they may see africa see differences between them you may see more effect than an older population but for the moment we must treat them as a quibble and you know we need to get as many people vaccinated as we can now it is true that some of them. for example one of the chinese will sign a farm one that will probably work better against all the variants where as say the fires of one might work as well against ones that we may see slight differences
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here having said that they buy things that are there are working against very just to make maybe slightly efficacious and other ones i want a really important one in your defense made by coming out about a neighbor that one you would predict could work against most order so it's very much a work in progress what amazes me how is it you're never seen an attention on one thing in your life i mean everybody's an expert now often different by seeing how they might work and so on but still it's a work in progress comparing them and we will chase down eventually on the be one that was dominate the market and house science being caught by surprise by the variance in the violence between a virus is to dictionary when the god is clearly small 2 to me ted but now we have the the can be taishan the south african variation the californian violence it's a surprise to the science this this bug is proving so adoptable all this is just a question of the the scale and which has affected the planet. yet we know
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a lot about such so far if you go back to when this big b. and i some of the year are going to move now met maybe in march april times this virus is called sars probably 2 it's very like sars are identical i like siblings if you will we knew sars had a low mutation and in fact if the chance of flu farts it's a 100th of a child me which if you know the anchovy is very neat a that would use the info slew so we thought this would be ok you know tentatively it was really good but that was that was a scientific fact the chairman is in the field it's a different story wanted out and about different pressures on different people you begin to see these variants emerge and it's a bit of a disappointment we would hope this won't be the case we hoped it might take a year or 2 for variants to emerge but the fact is we now have at least 4 variants that look different maybe more difficult to vaccinate against and we know about the can't one the b. 117 is more transmissible and that's not good because that means we're really going to affect it per unit time so it's a bit of
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a work in progress and now of course vigilance is kate now that we know these variants are cropping up we've got to keep a very close eye on that much for even more malign ones to emerge we can do that the good news is the u.k. again leads the world on this genomics business of reading the virus very closely you see so so now we know what to look for basically and then we get a very close eye on it and then the big question is where are they coming from now it turns out it's likely to be someone who's immunosuppressed who gets infected and the virus now grows in the person's body for a long time over 34 months and every time it divides there's a risk of a new one you see so the longer it's in someone the greater the risk is a bit of it me taking i suppose so now there are not going out in the field of us where we're seeing pressures on the virus that we didn't necessarily anticipate early on but they're giving rise to these new variants so it's a really important question it also means alex we must vaccinate the world as quickly as we can because it will be there in other countries and it may well be giving rise to extra variants that come into europe in our era so so it really it
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puts puts a sort of an urgency to how process the it was urgent already but at the margin. never seen a a low level of opposition to vaccination itself as of another danger that people once vaccinated don't realize that they are still and others indeed risk so as a an office a danger that people might feel invulnerable once a vaccinated then go back to normal life too quickly that's really important point like so we got our skulls i think flush basically vaccines are another weapon see in this phase of this time and they're very powerful weapon in fact it's i'd be most powerful weapon we have but we need to get the weapons off like other areas during a war let's say you're winning you don't cancel the air force then you keep the air force with the ground troops you know so and some of the ways we've got to keep up with all the measures i've been saying this recently in aren't you know maybe not far south as you but you know the american troops are still in germany a long time out of world war 2 you know so there is always there will be caution
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you know we will be even anxious in the coming months and you must maintain some kind of stringency meaning in the face of. the pandemic will at some point move to being endemic in this violence will be endemic across the world will it still then pose dangerous to to the human race will or will we have to be vaccinated every year against one variant of this virus on another while we want to ice and this is hopefully going to happen if we become like the flu our severe cold ok more now on the flu end of the spectrum because you know it's a bit more troublesome and remember 99 percent of people their own immune system is very good at fighting this fire this anyway. and then there are some of those 99 percent you get long term simply we want you but we do worry about long as well of course but the fact is for the vast majority are immune system is great why is the virus you get over it you may get reinfected but you have a lot less severe disease just like colds can reinfect in the severe so that's
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about the kind of way this virus is now if you're protecting the home just like flu every winter that's the main weapon and then it goes endemic and it's a mild disease in the vast majority of people 'd so so one protection we definitely have now beginning every winter there will be a set of vaccines for coping 19 that will join the flu vaccine protocol you know and then decide coming as it will by x. in a children and then they're protected as they move into i'd also use the and that's a good thing to do as well because they have becomes like an illness that's protected well in childhood beyond you know and those are the things that we're going to move towards i think so if they are i go every winter there may be a new 2 or 3 strains mostly when i realized that the current winter flu has 4 separate strains in that flu vaccine so we may end up with 3 or 4 surroundings and in the vaccine every winter and not only workable i think that's a reasonable enough prospect and certainly i means that say we have a way to carry on like we used to with an endemic part professor look at me i'm
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from dublin many thanks indeed for joining me again on the alex salmond show. to join us after the break but i'll be joined by professor sun hardy buttons the president of the british medical association. knew that the believe he sneer those had really to show. that with that i suppose he noticed us they said that. you know none of it is to be in a bowl episodes didn't go to see. the sneer during your force wake would
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welcome by i don't join by professor holly buttons one of the world's greatest ex-pat public health so how many bombs one should assessment of the vaccine roll out and across the u.k. thus far well. they are getting a large quantity of fight scenes mariella on i think. that it has been very successful and as much as that been a lot 'd of people g.p.s. volunteers in store and ready to administer it and they're on it yet i was asked to comment on how the vaccine might suggest it was a mixed economy of g.p.'s doing it as well as the large scale vaccination centers and so on there's a bend to just in most and i think we'll go. there when it has that has been
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contentious is the fact that scotland has decided that one shot should be given and the safe ensure the rage in order to have more people be vaccinated who is one sure than it would be possible to buy it in the if you are getting 2 shots and that's caused some concern amongst health care workers who are exposed to a daily 'd risk but i think the evidence is showing the domain the 2nd goes is not necessarily a problem so all i'm fairly relaxed with that as long as the 2nd shot does come eventually that's critically important as in the future and if the success of the vaccine rule thus far. is that a sign of the splendor of a a national health service so having a command health service with effectively you could get these things done if yes it
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is scotland and went into a ringback great successes of the past few years has been to use an improvement science the idea of collaborative change where instead of having a talk telling people what to do in terms of patient safety in hospitals and improving child health and so 'd if we caught frontline staff together and they came up. with i.d.s. which he tested and implemented and the team working element of the n.h.s. in scotland has been very very powerful over the past year so it's important that we continued that kind of approach as quickly as we 'd should and allow me i'm hearing stories of people beetroot zoe i'm used 'd by taxi rather than find somebody to give it to you know you're not allowed to give it to someone who's not in fear x. or whatever but it's this not we need we need to trust from brain start to do the
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right thing with it now those low level of public opposition to vaccinations them in some people feel but will be a strong anti virus campaign that doesn't seem to happen and fight people seem incredibly enthusiastic about about getting the vaccination are you satisfied with the the way the message is being put forward on a public health perspective i think the message you know that the control measures that have been put in place showed just how serious this virus has to be taken is a lot down in the closing of so many different states of our daily 'd life plus the fact that in the u.k. we've seen protests and they asked me people need to realize that this is a very basic. outbreak and therefore i think it has gone a long way towards convincing them to get i still hear stories from g.p.'s about
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this using it because they think it's cloisonne of this kinda stuff which is not it's clearly not but that's a very small number of people have have refused it as far as i can tell and hope you explain the suppose the scrapin say on the one hand that the united kingdom definite them of toileting rate is among the highest if not the highest of any major come to in the world while on the other hand the vaccination program seems to be in advance of other countries have been why has the u.k. failed in one aspect but seems touchwood to be succeeding on the vaccination. i think we did too little too late right at the beginning of the pandemic you know i remember right at the start we had chelton races a lot of us tens of thousands of people crowding into the area you hadn't liverpool playing atlantic or madrid and spain was one of the biggest outbreaks at times the
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of the spanish for coming over and mixing most english footballers and their remember being quite surprised when men and the chief scientist in england was us the poet the dangers of. america your hair he said was there is new evidence that matches and spread the virus well scuse me if you could you know a 10000 people from a country with a vitus and west 40000 susceptible people i actually quote i had to take it there was a bit of political interference the i don't basically decided it was more important business it's all 'd pretty good to shut down and angling to only shut off the scar and then instead it was going to show we did too little too late and therefore it got a hold in our country you know that now i think is the main problem. and then
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john knows that one's people of vats of the the think them invulnerable and they can go back through to normal life too quickly and is that a danger to public health at the present moment of the message of keeping up the the garbage against the virus a might somehow be lost very very much so this idea that you get the army and that you vote of all is just no up going to happen northwest one shot you know they have the dances that for at least 2 weeks to jesse weeks you're still susceptible to say action before the immunology. is in place to protect your brain even after you've had the 2nd shot the samaritans of different strains that will be slightly more aggressive slate us acceptable to the vaccine and tortured started cheering you know in g h we're going to have this virus around for some trying. hopefully we will get it
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under control and suppressed enough that hopefully when just everyone is vaccinated if they get the virus it will damage them so much but we still don't know if having been vaccinated you can carry the virus or over here and spread it to other people why this of the authorities have been slow to move them what would similarly be fairly obvious a measures to take them in for months ago in the show for example you suggested the the testing of effluent of waste water would be a good early warning signs of via wipe because i read that was being considered just this week or even face some him why could you spare even from a public health perspective why face bassam not compulsively everywhere i think i am stating that specially the u.k. government has been to america so appealing. could crawl savings they didn't want
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to be seen to be shutting down businesses they didn't want to be seen you know i remember being asked about face masks on a television interview oh so we're all going to look like chinese people walking around with face masks sort of you know up my hancock's said the evidence and face masks is weak well no it isn't we the evidence is very clear here today maybe rick depending on now you're waiting room and sore but you know there was a definite lack of appreciation as to how severe this was going to turn out and just how important discipline was in terms of just saying it and different protective measures the social inequality aspects of being highlighted by the virus in the post demick world when we. blinking back into the sunlight will. be concentration on how the the poor have suffered fos
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them foremost from the impact of coronavirus i think i have it in scotland i don't get any sense that conservative government and so this will 'd spend too much time in that. but the fact is that we know that the circumstances in which people grow and are supported as they grow can determine a lot of their own come their health outcomes more susceptible to different kinds of that their city and so on and one of them is their structures francis and we know all of that is coronavirus the more vigorous your stress responses are the more likely you are to damage your mum's ended up in the intensive care and so on and that me and heart explain the different susceptibility the different mortality and the poor people i really hope this become this for kisses or attention
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when the biological consequences of some seem to weaken quality in particular may the impact on children of poor families whose children will grow up to be more susceptible to a whole range of problems at life and we really need to get a grip of that going forward it will allow more children to grow up and be successful in life and contribute positively to society of 0 one of the other lessons be the the great virtue of having a public national health service. oh absolutely. the experience of people in the states who are reliant on insurance and so on you know some of the costs associated with things that here would be taken for granted and just simply dealt with in a consistent over investigates because the money by over investigating it over to
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cheaper dishes is a profit making industry whereas the health services we're seeing here is is an industry that supports the community supports society and therefore rather have our model 'd and any conceivable world from america professor how to bombs thank you once again for joining me from ellen salmon joe thank you so pleasure one year into the pandemic and people are understandably really of the battle the salvation of the vaccine this time to lies only within reach but it's often darkest before the dawn and right now to the virus and it's variants on ripping through society but we'll discuss this issue just before christmas the death toll in the u.k. was $60003.00 weeks ago it was over $80000.00 though it's over 110000 rising fast the united kingdom though has the highest death toll per 1000000 the population of
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any major country in the world. across seoul for that ministrations of the u.k. the vaccination program is proceeding well a new vaccines are arriving to cope until full insurance against mutations of this virus. in the last week the vietnam vaccine stopped of commercial production in livingston scotland lancet p. of us confirmed disputant 5 at 92 percent efficacy but such is the common age right know the strain must be taken by a renewed emphasis on public health measures that has been as yet no satisfactory explanation by the countries which pioneer public health in the victorian period have been so incapable of coping with a 21st century a pandemic before live for me and everyone of the show stay safe and we'll see you again next week.
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there i want to know how they are oddly enough for north america and our son or ex china and they are all people we believe just a little bit here. a lot of i can say what the bible said johnny the audio of the moment i thought of mother how do it all accusers are there a lot of them i'm a little what can i be old enough to go out to the pimp i don't want to put out a leftmost party without all the mother brother to. the ruling class is released real much but when it comes to china it is agreed the us means do so go get tough with beijing which isn't really me engaging china well trying to contain it is that even possible combined ministrations will eventually have to answer these questions.
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diplomacy is back to the claim of his 1st foreign policy speech as u.s. presidents but at the same time a tough line on russia. china's flagship english and in the u.k. ownership concerns. the e.u. drugs regulators are fast track its assessments of russia's. that's as europe continues to be plagued by covert vaccine shortages we hear from the head of an italian ngo. my whole family received the jobs back in november and now we have a high level of antibodies we know that bush has great scientific traditions so we have no.
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