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said the world so he wanted more return on investment if you want for their military deployments and. very rare practically in those terms are transactional while biden sees a liberal like line of the us to be the source of us our own reduced relevance in the world and also very explicit about this us all in a speech because i want to link also a cultural revolution going through in the us at the moment what they were hardest skirmish of white supremacy and yes he was very explicit this link to foreign policy as well because. our values at home will be you know how we lead in the world who are trying to lead with economic dominance and sees it as leading on values also this also explains a lot of the king of the speech the folks on the product allies the values. of cuba back in its logical conclusion then joe biden is talking about a colored revolution in america ok so we can talk about that a little bit later i mean these things that end up being connected in i think
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connected in people where people don't understand the law of unintended consequences you go to maxime here. in the overall thrust of it was america is back and he said that but my reaction to that was well american never left it was just on the stage in a different way as we just heard from black go ahead well i think i totally agree with you i don't think america is a real left is just perhaps the feeling that there is within the democratic party and his base that honor trump the american image for haps their marriage ownership is down and biden is there to you know bring america back in the sense that america will be more visible more committed or smart person all that jazz will honestly i think america ease back in the sense of kind of moral lecturing us some of the states it sees its adversaries and i think there is no go incidence of one.
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that russia going to dominate especially in the 1st half of the speech biden's rhetoric is perhaps the biggest spoiler of the international system where the american dominate international system as biden sees it. but i ain't seen in the in the same reason i think it would this be it wasn't really much of a surprise in moscow is people pretty much expect it saying we're rather and i think we discussed even in this program in the run up to this administration that there will be a lot of this emphasis on human rights and democracy and moral lecturing he mentioned while he so it's not so the reason and but at the same time i have to say on the same day and i thought of mayor markable that was the 1st phone call between the foreign minister lever off and state secretary of lincoln and if you're right the state department readout of the conversation to get a sense that pretty much the conversation was the way that you know lincoln was lecturing laterals on some rights and then all the other things and levels just mistaken notes were asked when he read the russian press release i thought it was
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more substantive and i got a sense that was a more substantive conversation in the sense they discussed i mean many areas but i thought the most remarkable were the. possible reason or exchange you know the americans detained and russia and possibly the russians it seemed in the united states cop aeration in the democrats. and you know these arms control thing. and they mean perhaps if there is kind of mannish confrontation this is the best what can hold for in this circumstance it's. going to make seem it brings up a very good point i mean look at the readouts and you know and again went by biden had to say it's an enormous amount of bluster and hot air and it's for domestic consumption to mean they if you look at the other foreign minister in the secretary of state yeah there was the bluster in the hot air and all that but then it was some brass tacks too which i thought you know is maxime rightly. and that i think
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that's going to be basically the basis of the relationship because the russia gate hoax is bled into american foreign policy any you just cannot ring that bell you know i mean there is no in this going to say well you know we've moved on you can't do that ok and it's really put the bike in ministration in a bind not the russians because the russians are on the receiving end of it go ahead. you know well i think this is this big horse are actually i wouldn't be too worried about it i think actually come produce better policies now it was very specific he said you know america will no longer roll over for russia again it was unclear to me how the u.s. has rolled over for russia under trump so what do you really. should she rather trump in relations spiraled out of control somebody who thinks this is going to distinguish between speech of policies and the 1st was always this policy is trump is so kindly to him and biden has reassured us that he's very strict a tough or he speaks to or didn't so this appears to be this being so speak loudly
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and carry a little stake in terms of policies and what can move the u.s. do now i mean to have maxed out on the sanctions against russia again i you know call me an optimist but i think this is a bit of a positive approach because most in sequencing by u.s. and russia can do not to manage this conflict as might or might manage to also. be realistic because i don't think this much that can be approved in the foreseeable future so there will be no reset again i think this is probably a good thing cos there's so much animosity at the moment at any efforts to reset it will be talking about through the let's it's kind of interesting because this is the 1st american administration coming to power since the end of the cold war but is that as it rest of posture towards russia every single other missed new admission ministration coming and was looking at for some kind of reset ok and the biden ministration to say now we're not going to try that so i think you. both
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writing it from a baseline and maybe that in a very odd way counter to counter intuitive way that's a positive because if you're not going to be disappointed go ahead. please lee we are not disappointed from from the onset right when a bit disappointed further down the road but not the beginning i agree it's a it's a new approach of the american administration and i think the one that moscow is history rather happily embracing for now we'll see where it goes perhaps i mean it's really hard to find a new substantive agenda for the bilateral relations in the moment that's why i brought brought up this i thought it was interesting that the russian press release mentioned this cooperation and then i don't think it's going to happen especially when they mentioned you know that the russians americans are going to come up with a joint vaccine resource thinking about that i think there's you know big pharma think that's really hard to deal with in the united states and that's not really where that's about that rustles going to go there but perhaps the little small
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steps such as they also mention the restoration of normal functioning or normal operations of the diplomatic missions i think that someone didn't work and think that will perhaps disability some context doesn't really require a lot of i mean it does require political will but does not see does not require a lot of concessions or sacrifices politically i think you know restoration of diplomatic missions were not perhaps a necessary small step possible prisoner exchange i think would be big and demand much more political will specially in front from the united states perhaps. option but policy wise i don't think there might be a lot of movement in a positive direction so perhaps. i'm personally more of a proponent of a what i'd call a strategic loss in the relations at least for some time where the 2 parties can focus on their own kind of domestics and not use each other as the kind of galvanizing element for political. he said. i don't think it's going to happen
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either yes the russia's actions lead jumping but yes i just want to point out because in united states being on russia is a very much very important for political legitimacy so people speak out against moscow like reagan he had the political edge and messy and political capital to go to moscow to make deals you know people are trying to say oh let's get along with russia we you know in common they will be cut in size and you know that keep us agency and relations will become or ever before so again i would agree with max point that this thing is to a certain excess and extend existing arms control treaties and cooperate on pragmatic issues like extending this arms treaty and again this is what biden said let's extend this arms treaty. and you know do. magic issues you know on that you want here he will embrace the rhetoric you know to point out america this moral authority and dominance over russia maybe that's a good saying at least
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a stable os this positions and united states tend to do have to speak to the mystic audiences as well to be because of their the level and kind of rhetoric that biden is starting out in his secretary of state during this mation hearings. i was you used reaganism historical president i would go even further back i go to nixon nixon went to china so i mean with this with that all of this her and and we never would have bought that russia russia gave hoax would have be so bersih tom ok it's wait you can use it in domestic politics you can use the internet stage it has a lot of use it ok but you know if they keep up this type of rhetoric. by you know who's biting is going to be the last i mean he was in he was in be the all office and the last days of below obama administration would solve this apparently ok with michael's well. all right and so he now has its uses and who knows maybe uses will
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find down but i mean he could be kind of a nixon type character and so i don't you can you can trust me because i think all of us and our viewers going to agree there's a lot of important issues that you should all be armed as. you know fiery rhetoric here maxine let's kind of spread it out a little bit you know i think one thing in the in the speech like i pointed out afghanistan wasn't meant nidal which i think was kind of interesting when there's a lot of focus on saudi arabia for some reeds and i mean i had an interesting week you know he said you know it is a continuation of the trumpet administration many what was 1st more distant west to reoffend. right well i think it's just things actually don't know and i guess that i was i thought to be a new administration has taken a very different approach from the one that the trump adopted in the sense that they're not really are they're good they're a lot more focused on talking with them being here we're going to go to
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a short break and after that short break continue our discussion on the bike need ministrations foreign policy state party. knowing through the woods that in the. blog. blog. i know you're back in a can not or cannot wow nice place and about national america cannot deny. not just us but those on my own side pull on a limb that has him a little an eye on my public affairs. and show him the national association.
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everyone is contributing way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges grateful to response has been so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. imagine picking up a future textbook on the early years of the 21st century what are the chapters called gun violence school shootings homelessness 1st it was my job it was my building was my savings i have nothing i have nothing there's no record of true aloof or resources i look for jobs i look for everything i can to make this house. in oil of doing this. the road to the american dream paved with did
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refute. this very idealized image of the older. americans look pasta the deaths that happen every single day this is a modern history of the usa america. welcome back across top where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're talking about joe biden's foreign policy. ok let's go back to mexico here in moscow right before going to the break we're talking about what you just said is possibly a different approach that by the ministration is that is going to have with
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afghanistan go right ahead right in the you know the top administration advocating kind of these negotiations with the taliban as an important element on the ground and then and you know one element to embrace these if there are there should be a settlement on conflict by demonstrations heaps of the state you know war a kind of tough approach on the taliban and more reconciliatory towards the afghan government and the taliban are obviously not happy with that so there might be a lot more it's. and we'll see if there is a space for for moscow and beijing to jump on saudi arabia i thought was really interesting i have to say that the biden policy team is kind of composed. you know the so-called press pragmatists such as say blinking you know it's not nice and it's on air so called i wouldn't exactly exactly the socal reformists such a solid one who thinks of himself as an avenue henry kissinger you know willing to
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do some. good some superb things and that is the progressives who are mostly working on this economic and domestic agenda up there very i happy that they did not make its into the you know the foreign policy domain so punishing or castigating the saudis for the war in yemen and you know kind of over all of human rights abuses isn't is in a way and he's a target for the biting to placate the progressive and you know ending the war and in even yemen basically does not require a lot of you know bipartisan consensus or. you know 'd let me. just jump in here look at the wording the u.s. would stop supporting a saudi arabia's of offensive actions ease of the am i'm paraphrasing here i don't have the text but you can parse that in so many different ways it's not saying that we're going to make the saudis stop yet there are
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a rent as horrific war against him and he's didn't that's not me and here that's why that's why i say it has more to do with that with kind of domestic appeal to the progressive wing of the democratic party a morsel then to the foreign policy change you go a lot for say you know they need perhaps to do something that will look at the progressive when it will look. and then to get package it as a transformative foreign policy approach which in fact will not be such you know i mean i'm glad that there's no downside in doing that. because we still don't know the fate of these arms agreements that the trump administration made in the in the waning months of before the new administration came into power as that's left open ended here we don't know about that ok but there was plenty of arms agreements made during that the trumpet ministration here so there's very little doubt but little downside at this point here but it's also you know you know castigating the warrant
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against yemen but the same time again i was really surprise and we will protect the sovereignty of the of the kingdom ok i think you know that was going to the election we see would spread to sovereignty of the united states the southern border it's a topic for another program go ahead also colum theme throughout the foreign policy speech was that it was a bit contradictory because he wanted to be very strong and firm in language but really it didn't take that clear position so for example this obvious a good example so the u.s. it was very clear like because of their more about moral values the u.s. house office or against the bots the u.s. will still support saudi arabia against iran now why was previously also said that he agrees with this assessment that the yemen war is the main conflict between saudi arabia and iran so so it's a very difficult to have it both ways a lot doesn't mean that the u.s. has mainly provided support for saudi arabia in disorder in yemen they want to help us out but again i get that outsider a bit to start or so so in some ways this is very forceful speech but it could
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actually mean absolutely nothing or what exactly would change and this is can i get in is a running theme say with china we will be very tough on china however sure we will come to the understanding and you know russia will get tough on russia don't we don't really have any more sanctions we really need this treaty so i just saw this foreign policy speech it really tells me that the u.s. is still trying to find its place another outlet changing the world and it also tells me that the u.s. is still very divided domestically so. as to appeal to all groups i mean the democratic party itself is very fractured and he speaks to all sides of this that i don't party yes to. something for everyone which is why i have to say don't mix not so you know i mean that speech resist a mixed bag of virtues they've milling all the way through here maxine they on the 1st day of the biden ministration there were reports that american troops in iraq were transferred into syria now we have to remember that we have mr blinken who is
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in the obama administration very much involved in the syria syria conflict he may face he may feel that there's unfinished business there and that if that doesn't bode well for syria obviously and for regional stability. i'm very worried about that because he wakin if you look at what he said in the recent past is that the u.s. didn't do enough for regime change didn't do enough to change syria now he secretary of state yes absolutely well i think he's pretty. committed sinner in terms of generals transforming his words into actual policy and i think it eco's well across other agencies of the of the u.s. government the gentry really topple assad militarily were through coup or special operation right now and strangling the regime and who can more costs an additional burden on on russia and iran for support and damascus i think he's going to be the
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policy of this in ministration in the in the coming days one aspect to watch for apps is the u.s. relationship with turkey and it's a kurdish groups on the ground is the movement of troops that you mentioned from iraq to syria is reportedly this is kind of transformational military hardware and other support for the kurdish groups and this is something that no. just russia did not lie or syria obviously did not write like it is this is basically a fortification of the american and allied urge positions around some of that will reserves but also turkey did not relax and i thought it would be a bunch of very difficult relations to to manage is initially you know for going back to what lincoln and others mentioned before they entered office whether they were willing to expand this kind of cleavage between moscow and entre and including
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on syria but now you know by its by support an additional kurdish formations that it just makes for a more angry. you know it's very interesting i mean again it's kind of a very weird virtue signalling glenn you know i mean it's a stirring things up here. during the trumpet ministration now in the early days of the biting this ration no one is really explain why the united states needs to continue with the illegal occupation of syria it's never explain what is their strategic goal and when and when what does it mean to win quote unquote it's never made clear. well this one i'm a guy and. i started this social issue that discussing that and trump and biden this is about many differences you know in one chunk that began to while occupied the oil fields of syria on how we got their oil we're going to make some money you know. i think it was a difference of firsts 1st day in office he intensifies doctor patient in syria
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iraq you know he speaks the language of democracy and freedom and. human rights and rainbow as if you some are different language but the policies are very similar so. yeah i mean but and that's just talking nonsense like i mean how can you be talking about diplomacy and democracy when you're occupying a country illegally under international law it's complete nonsense here let me stay here with you glenn you said something that probably more than anything else caught my eye but i really didn't understand what it meant and i thought it was in some ways it was kind of a him you lay shinar copying of trump emotion he said he wanted a foreign policy for the middle class did you find that interesting is i'm not really sure what he meant by that is that mean that you know america 1st you know build infrastructure jobs for americans control immigration because that's what the middle class would like i didn't understand and the reason i'm thinking about it now is because you said and i think you're absolutely right is that he's talking to
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different constituencies in the united states is this say is this a. something towards moderate republicans or something like that because i don't and i don't know where that apparently is the big proponent of this i don't know when it is all it could be i mean even more recently hillary clinton published an article in the think foreign affairs for shit men argument effectively comes argument i cannot mix nationalism so we have to regain our technological advantage to get back industries from china you know has to control as for teaching technologies to trust haitian or gores the banks are very much there are the same arguments that i cannot make nationalism of trump now again and that's a good reasons behind this oh he might be going after some of. the trump orders because the problem for the democrats is ever since occupy wall street they haven't well it's from long before they. addressed the middle class in terms of it even
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addressed economic issues because what can you really do it was the economic issues if you still got a piece or a daughter so they can shift the discussion now as the problem isn't economic inequality is racism and so it's transsexuals it's you know we need more equity in it and it's our lead became. you know it anything about economics something that doesn't cost you money to. deal with so you might be yes different. approach strip young old people who abandoned the left and they went with trump i mean this is a theme we saw not just in the u.s. on in britain asshole that the right wing populist are suddenly taking their voting base from the political left and their failure to address economic questions is a big reason for this ok next 20 seconds you know you see nato expansion the bite ministration. us and that's
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