to judge nelson about his new film coming up on the lifetime network right after the sun dennis miller plus one. day folks welcome to dennis miller plus one when did i ever think when did i ever think i'd interviewed john bender need to wear a tie on the show what what his long strange trip it's been. really actually judge judge nelson best known for a lot of things i guess it was 1st on my radar and i think that might be the 1st i saw costner to it and then go it's you got to look watch that felt pretty groovy film i think kevin reynolds might have directed that and he and their customers think friends for a long time but it just trust me it's a cool sort of a roadie put your beats major done to me it's big joe pretty cool fell and then the breakfast club say no most fire hit out of the ballpark new jack city also earned

a golden globe nomination for his role in the mini series billionaire boys club which is cool and judd's latest film and juice i was reading about folks i know let him pick up bar i get press reading the one sheet out of life that are all in the basement for marrying on february 27th just the house how are you. doing very well thank you for having me. listen i want to intermingle and talk a lot and we've had met just a couple sides of had laughs but i'm going to almost keep the project separate and talk about of the beginning because once you talk about this subject this project you cannot go back and forth this is tell me about the new movie and it premieres as i said february 27th on lifetime the girl in the basement lay it out for the viewers just well it's. loosely based on a real story. about a father who kidnaps his daughter and keeps her in

a specially built soundproofed basement apartment. and has his way with her and for over 20 years he has children with his daughter mother. and for 20 years she never gets out of the psych he's down there abusing her and going up stairs and seen his wife and his other kids it's. if it were true no one would buy this for a 2nd to be like come on this is completely ridiculous but the fact that it is even worse than what we're able to show is. i tell you it's like he's a very unique character study nowhere in 5000 years of recorded history has a man kept his own flesh and blood and abused them for that long a time i mean the longevity of this is just crazy but it's fun to dig

into 'd not necessarily have to worry about making sure the character is sympathetic because he shouldn't be sympathetic the story to work i mustn't be sympathetic because the guy doesn't see himself as a villain i'm trying to teach this daughter some respect. and you know i find it i find a concept so shattering i'm wondering when when this comes across your desk or when you try for this part. under this over the years i've seen people 10 people and i think why would anybody want that gig because sometimes you're defining mad like this is a monster i don't mean you i was i'm saying in the league right when this comes across your desk i don't know if i'd look at it and just run and say i cannot immerse myself enough for 8 months cracked up or was your 1st thought well i knew about the real case i knew about the guy and it took place in austria and this kid was born 935 when he's 10 years old. the nazis are then

out of power so his 1st years of his life were under the nazi rule in austria and he was raised by a single mother who was a tyrant v. was badly treated by her so it makes a logical sense how he became this guy and i was just fascinated by him i mean there's a lot of stuff we can't do in a television movie and there's a lot of stuff we try and synthesize other stories that make it less specific to that case but what drew me to it was that i mean hard to believe it's true worse than we could show you. we're talking to judd nelson in the film on lifetime it's called girl in the basement you hear the the ghastly premise of the film you know when you talk about sense of community judd i know you come from i don't know when you end up in cali or new york or what your trip is but you're born in maine portland maine the other cortland as they say maybe they maybe they refer to the why we were 1st as 1st. tell me about growing up in portland my good place to be

brought up it's a really good place to be brought up although i think you know it's so strange we don't realize that our home is different from anyone else's until we're old enough to go have dinner at your buddy's house when you go out that aren't so bad your parents your mother is awful i just think my parents were awful now that we've been so you know there were no i mean i came from a good family to 2 younger sisters mom and dad are high school sweethearts they're still together. i big good examples and they've really been very supportive my whole life might my dad says you know be as smart as you are and my mother says your life is an occasion rise to it i think you can if you follow those tenets i think you can move yourself along and reach some kind of reasonably happy way what is it that. marcus really is said that you know we control our

life's happiness our thoughts the quality of our thoughts will determine. whether we're happy or sad so it's kind of a fascinating thing i mean i don't know why doing a movie like this is necessarily following my parents' plan but i think my mother is not so happy with this she saw the trailer and she went well you're not a very nice. like well you know try to explain or i go moment just try to teach that daughter is just what your father and i did no i'm not saying that but you know it's like. is that. for the for the non-historical out in our audience marcus or illyas of course plays the prophet on m a m s n b c. that would be great great where how do you get out of there and go to hollywood and when you 1st go to your parents you have such. you know as i read your bio about there are some daunting chats to go home

and say i want to go out actor what was that. oh my goodness i think it's like when i decided to study acting i didn't really do any acting until college and i get it and i liked it and i thought i would pursue it and i remember my father telling me . my dad's always right i never agree with him until much later but he's always right i just just he just acknowledged and he said if you want to be an actor that's good but you should know it's a profession in which merits is not necessarily rewarded and you may not like that and i was like whatever you think i'm believable if you work at i.b.m. and you're there every day and they just don't bother anyone you just do your work you're going to ascend in this pattern that's been done before and will be done after you you know you get into the arts it could be anything you can do great work in a great movie that no one sees. might as well been in the elevator the whole time and

you can be terrible yeah but i return willingly i think you want if you have if you perhaps yourself in the art in a way you're a little present matter from the yallow. absolutely true i mean i was studying in new york with stella adler and i thought i would stay in new york and to feed her and i was dating a woman who was a who lived in new york and l.a. and she said she was going to go back to l.a. did i want to go to l.a. as well i went no i'm going to stay here in new york and do theater and she went well if you know coming back to l.a. i'm going to date other people and i was like i go to l.a. for the on 2nd. but. you know say that was it it's like why did my 1st play a guy a freshman in college he goes you want to go a distance for the school play and i'm like no he goes come on it will be great and i go why will it be great he goes death row the girls are and i was like that's about right now ok i can do that you know ridiculous yabba judd listen

young actors in a lord byron esque way it should be on primal modes i always think you should if. you should look at sunsets you should make love you should appreciate art you should dive in because if not you're going to come up in your late twenty's and not have a quiver you can go into for the proper emotional era so there's something about following a woman deli that makes as much sense to me as anything else. and i tell you we were maybe lucky day because. everyone has a cell phone now meaning they can take pictures they can record sounds they can record movies boy oh boy i don't know whether i would have made it an hour you know i would have been that. was i can sneak anywhere and ever be her best students and she she had the the god who walks among men and her to the ledge and always let me act that they talk brando is being with the method but i think at some point she says screw the method use your imagination and his was plentiful tell me about

stella no absolutely see when she was the last one of all the great teachers to go back to russia and talk with stanislav and what sense was he said toward the end of his life he said yes sense memory is valuable so is the alexander technique so is stretching so. but it's not the main element because it's not necessarily safe over time if using your own emotions 8 times a week and you're playing off l o my god you going to kill that girl you know you going to spend half your life in jail so says i she was talking about the imagination is a way that it can be more healthy way to keep doing this and it's funny she told me a story about brando she said it was she was out in l.a. he was just really starting to hit huge and she's in his house he's in the kitchen and she hears a terrible groan and a body hitting the floor. and she doesn't know what that was she's almost afraid to look just silence a body to the floor she thinks maybe she had a heart attack but choked a stroke you don't know she goes in the kitchen and sees him laying on his back on

the kitchen floor looking up smiling and he says i just wanted to see what would be like to die of boredom. and that's that's why brando is brenda i always love the i love the cars and story where they're trying to get him in the street car and always done his truck like up at that point he says listen you got to go me to see williams ease up know your story and it got it right for me. to say williams opens the door and it's. and he's cast like with and through it it's like you care you know tennessee williams opened the door with a plunger in his hand because the toilet was stuffed and brenda was like what are you doing give me that takes it from little dance he waves it pushes him out of the way fixes toilet and tennessee coast because then he goes again he's fixing my toilet. and you can i tell you if tennessee williams was in freud in therapy and i

asked him. at the linear union therapist i said what's your ideal dream. of an upstate new york and brando comes that much so and i've got to twila plunger that it grabs out of my hand of course me that would have been very core. very i want to know what that's about that. words are going through. and these would light and we would talk about the movie and i soon talk about using your imagination whoever the young girl is and girl in the basement maybe you can give her a shy about her judd because she must've had to use your imagination because the fact is that if everyone was great and all the actors were great in fact i was incredibly impressed with the younger kids because they play the characters that are the children that i have with my daughter. people that grow up never seeing the sky never seeing the sun never taking a bath never walking up stairs never having

a friend you know it's like. incredible and i don't know how you begin to build those kind of characters but all these kids were great everyone was great top to bottom and i think a lot of it has to do we had a wonderful director and it was your 1st time but you never would have known it was your 1st. elizabeth rome is very. she's very experienced actress and it translated so well she was just i didn't think for a 2nd she was the 1st time or not a single moment in the whole film you know it's weird though because it my 1st movie undercoat it and that's very weird you work drive to the hotel you stay in your room that's it you work drive to the hotel scene you room and that's what you go ahead to sense next memory exercises stuff like that but if there's going to be a film that's about staying in going to your room coming back and just living under a shroud certainly it would be the only big basement as i said

a lifetime movie premieres on february 27th. which. bird do you. good with the. machine the center of the beach. the lower story. when you go to the movie lingo it in the video it appears. that it still has the soul of the disease and i'm with you to keep that to me.

the post trauma era has begun or has it what role would the former president play within the republican party by all accounts trump intends to remain relevant if this is the case what is the future of the populist wing of the party and fourthly if indeed the g.o.p. is now the party of the working class will the party leadership in phrase this nation direction. welcome back to dennis miller plus one we're joined by judd nelson he's got a lifetime movie coming out sounds very of a very a serious nature given to watch girl in the basement premiering on february 27th i want to go back to maybe what's funny you never know what's going to become a legend but when i when i hear that song and i had all the stops on that freeze

frame judge in the i don't know i hope you still have those gloves you could e-bay those gloves for a lot of money but. really spoke to some tina hanks a refusal to give in to i don't know it's funny when you were doing breakfast club did you realize it's going to it was just going to be for the ages for young people who love to tell you it was incredible that hughes like gus he like actors he was a real collaborator some people use that word but they don't mean it and he meant it he was really allowing us and encouraging us to be partners in the whole process and it was a miraculous thing to work on we shot it mostly in sequence we had a real rehearsal time and it was just kind of wonderful and 3 i enjoyed working with all those people paul gleason may he rest in peace it was wonderful to torture he was great i really enjoyed making him crazy and. i just had

a good time on that day and it was fun because you know we could use would let the camera run out you would hear the film magazine go out like click click click but he wouldn't call cut because he just wanted to see what was going to keep happening you know really really great spirits. you know it's funny some directors are of their era and they articulate whatever the case does of the youth at that point i look back on frank capra and i always think boy he really not into the stick with these happy uplifting films i don't think when he came back from the war he did many of those because i think evacuated the camps and was wrecked but when i look back at hughes i really think that he had his teeth clamped firmly down on the bone of what it was like to be a young person and a time when men it is all flipped upside down yeah and i'll tell you this also that he was making the transition because planes trains and automobiles is a great movie and that's nokia yes that's steve martin he's never been better john

candy may he rest in peace like it's why oh it's like so who knows what he would have passed away so young younger than i am. i like that now it seems to me that if i'm not aware time is passing it shouldn't pass right but strangely enough i'm now that kid in the breakfast club on his dad. just absence i don't know how that will screw and i musta been having me which. i'm glad you have some grounding in portland and with your parents like you said you saw a marriage that exist high school lovers to the stabbing that lets all sweet underlay because when you have back to back films like breakfast club at st elmo's fire and that time when for god's sakes folks day at the nosebleed seats at the former courtside that was a crazy time in los angeles they didn't you must you must have been hanging on in a way it's fun in another way you're hanging on to a comet for dear life. yeah but also you know at that time i was living in new york

so i would come out here late for work and i was living in new york and i tell you i i always loved new york i've always been a late night person the idea that things will stay open 24 hours so you know that the 14 years i was in new york. state really although now it's a different city post 911 it's just a different world and times square is all cleaned up now and you can bring family there and that's really awful but i mean it's. i miss it i miss that lifestyle. i love i'm a late night person and now it's so strange in l.a. everything closes early everything goes really everywhere because you know social distancing though i've been practicing social distancing for about 20 years but i like to be able to go out late afterwards but i can't anymore it's a stuck you know it is the it is the golden age of being a pariah. i've always been a little sad at adoption the times found me somewhere along the way you know.

and say you know those i did i did some work over the years behind the scenes work but such a good guy joel schumer i don't know what your memories were but he would make me laugh so hard. yeah he sort of got joel schumacher his folks i met his office once he's working on batman it doesn't pay out not but he's got a back cave poster on his wall and i as a kid from my era that meant everything to me i'm standing looking at it like it's a map of the lewis and clark expedition he. shows up at my door framed from joe and i have my office that he was going to look at remember his great job. yeah yeah i tell you we were we shot 1st in georgetown and one night. it's like a weekend we get the night off we finish work and we see joel he's in

a limo by himself standing up in the back with a moon roof open drinking champagne as the driving down the street i think that's our director. chris if. you haven't noticed you are not really wants you in bed at a certain time period. he like to direct us in the insert car with the bullhorn he's literally 10 feet away directly get through the bull it's like really really man we're human and. you know dad when i look back. if magazines get a hook and honest to god all they need is something where they a and yet rhymes with. and all the so i so true i was on every night live folks i can't tell you i began to not in the self aggrandizing manner just as an exercise to point out to predictability of the people or sensibly the last word i started cutting out articles it's a saturday night live dead or saturday night dead i'm telling you i got up to 20 in

my 1st year and i thought oh i can see they're there they're phoning it in as much as anybody and they get oh yeah trying to think of the brat pack like i said even saying the name feels a little weird but tell me about some of your fellow members there and were you guys sitting at like they said you were singing and i often play with that. what's crazy is this writer has dinner with me and amelia and rob and some other people one night at the hard rock cafe i was living in new york. the idea that i would you know go to l.a. to go for a beer is insane you know my friends were back in new york they were actors and it's like so the idea that we're part of a gang a part of a group. people thought you know why not the problem with that though is it portrayed my generation of actors as being. frivolous as i'm not caring about the work. is if they're entitled to all these other things whereas my experience in memory of working with all of them was we were on time we were prepared we did mess what we could you know to meet it's like it was

a negative way to portray us that was not necessarily accurate you know i look at your work now and i always i always think well he weathered it i must be some base 'd you see some people who are in as james taylor said it sweet dreams flying machines and pieces on the ground you see some people are flocked jetsam but you guys when i look back now i know rob lives up there near me 25 years sober you know really grab the reins on his life and you know i look back and i think well a lot of them landed on their feet isiah the inside man on broadway one night have really i thought nice chops in that room and. yes somewhere along the way you guys did. i guess there are some broken parts but for the most part landed on your feet i thought your work in the billionaire's boys club was a believable. make you very much yet truly like come. it's

a strange thing your last long enough. condition suddenly you're like respected i don't know what it is don't die right is linger. and i tell you it's a tough one for not just got out from our community and one thing i learned is i refuse to get down more than a day or 2 i'm a human being i'm not up body when you get with your wounds but i used to always think stuff like say winching your in vietnam era monday night football they didn't like you for that fire good for john madden get on with it and go to st jude's go to bethesda read wait the op how life is getting a lot tougher this it's amazing how to mazing with you know i think that we are as good as our weakest link and we really need to look out for each other better and i don't think it takes that much time or money or effort we really just gotta look out for the you know the hurting the we is sad you know the damage. i know you're

in your sixty's not that's the 2nd time you've gone back around on that one we talked about girl in the basement how community has to really keep an eye out for people might be in this case malfunctioning to the outer limits of human. basements february 27th on lifetime and now you refer back to it again about the sense of community when did that start creeping in on near did you have that from from early on because your parents or is your guru older did you have more sense of responsibility to the group i think i think i always had it from my parents and i tried to kind of avoid it as best i could. and for whatever reason you know you make up excuses not to be responsible for your fellow man and it just seems that maybe it's getting older maybe it's getting wiser maybe it's just accepting the fact that it's the truth which is that you know the golden rule sounds so simple

everyone would be happy if we could do it do want to others as you have them do unto you. it just seems such a far reach to go there we mistreat people i thought the whole covert thing was going to provide us with the opportunity to no matter where we were on the globe like you and i could call somebody in iceland and they would be experiencing basically the same thing we were experiencing you find incredible common ground but nation states whatever they're going to look at in their own way and then we ended up becoming more separated and before i mean that the internet was supposed to bring us all together in fact it's making us more extremely separate and i don't know yet but you know my tickling is just as we did not see that happening and quite frankly we're at a time in history now where we've all come together as one to realize that maybe it wasn't a great idea it all come together as one. as much as you don't see it coming i'm convinced that it's the next flip on the wheel and we're not capable of

intellectualizing it i think will be a moment where all of a sudden you'll say oh i see it's like that biblical package passage that begat that which begat that i think we try to get in with our knowledge surely in the chain of events and that's why we always feel frustrated ertz want to i think it's coming i just think we have to be patient. it's like an auto correct i think one thing has to lead the next thing and i think sometimes we try to eliminate a link in the chain and that's when we get frustrated but i sure do. better times ahead as far as human interaction i just can't see it right now anyway i am fully it's good to meet your brother and good to see you know each other nice. and your is genial as i remember you judge nelson and the film is girl in the basement of premieres on february 27th on the lifetime movie network good to see you again thank you very much good to see you man oh my best to you and your family. judge

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