for a laugh extension foundation max it's really great tell us today welcome thank you so good to be here all right so what topic look what amazes me and about career preservation is that it looks more like putting death on hot rather than simply freezing that body can you explain how it works. yeah that's actually good so good job description the basic idea is i want to be analogy if you go back say 960 and you were walking around with some people or and suddenly the overt start reading not so beating but then we would be a substance that there's nothing we could do today because we jump on and do. a relation bursting some resuscitate them so what we said is almost dead but in 1060 by the way stands then not so in our view when your body goes out on the dock dick says you need to read it that's not the same to be biology it really means that given today's technology is medical techniques we don't know what else to do for you so what we say to some of the rest of us we're going to protect themselves

against cold we're going to remove the book replace it with a century of medical grade and some freeze and then we can simply process right down to the stream we don't get but minus 320 fahrenheit minus one might be 6 ounces i thought so but you can wait literally bit decades now so hopefully will one day develop the technology to convert settles and revive you good condition to carol living. how much time to create on its specialists have to completely all clear preservation procedures after the person is pronounced death. well there's no real set time what we do know is the sooner we do it the vessel to see the 1st stage very important because the war you are the 1st see what is going to float up some of the british want to cool people just like we do to hospitals right not to cold sober just surgeries straight people with gunshot wounds another angle brains that read a lot she cool you down a bit and degrees slows everything down for you 10 degrees c. drop in temperature everything slows down. so we're going to drop you don't not

below freezing weather wait as quickly as possible using sed so sit waiting ice and ice both by restarting circulation respiration getting rest medications very quickly we want to bring you down closer musings about that can be done or. i think the regulation declaration of the group best will write it up and getting it out but sending receiving about city by minutes so we can go pretty fast and don't have to take time doing surgery texas the bus route has them remove as much water from the body as possible replacement this car taken solution medical grade antifreeze if you like and that's a few hours and slow down a little bit more once you get out about minus 90 so really there isn't a limit but we know that if we don't reach you within that cool you know gets you were then about 16 to 24 hours the blood brain barrier breaks down and up democratic take the brain which is not good because going won't last that. threats of this procedure that's called vertical cation right wing blood and amani quins are replaced with some sort of antifreeze which prevents eyes from damaging cells

when the day arrives session the brain can de clear preserve a person back to life where these actually freeze be replaced with blood and i know most likely not going to something. most days. this is not so do what they will have to do that we do it today actually incident surgeries and sudden experiments you can remove all the blood from somebody replace it with a sending based solution. like it was a lot of research going on not to rewrite not a. lot of things and how can you possibly take the one below freezing and bring it back and i like point out why she got of leads of people what your answer day who prior reserves were just embryos would sign and of course you also crafters of corneas hot skin cells many of the tissue so the promise not to be caught reverses in principle if that were the logic of the brain and a whole body is very well it's not practical today to reverse that because of the speed you need to really want it doesn't mean it will be forever impossible and it was not going to bring someone back and so we can fix the aging problems too

because not bring you back is 90 year old just how people argue about it again so it's going to be a long time so all these problems and aging problem because it may never happen we're not going to seeing this investment we're just betting you also as we think. oh right so that in the satire right that i've read the people who are only extend their main quest into creator chambers to wake up centuries after not that people there do we have a technological and maybe even legal way to freeze people who just blindly right now not people who are that we're no not really because the procedure now we use we have to stop the house nobody can sit on a site so no we cannot do that the closest you can do there are certain jurisdictions and not in states plus encounter the rest of the countries let's let's not worry about someone at all which basically means you have to don't is agreeing to not know what in 6 months and it's going to rule 6 months you can choose when to go yet with mr b. s.

and yourself stop your heart so does she very useful trust me i've done a couple of cases like that where we can actually schedule the car reservation procedure rather than rushing across the country across the state to get to the bed so we can actually be there ready with our equipment i'm the person says i'm going to go next wednesday but what can you be there where we can stop immediately are doctors the clinton people that so that's the closest you can come to that is what . so that crayon inks as i understand it is built on the idea that in that future generations film figure out how to revive living organisms after death something that has so far deemed impossible so what i think you know making happen and what research exists out in the science of today that builds up those great expectations well just no it's not really the death i have to quote but it's up to recall this because in fact you know almost everything it's the life you think about and there are people who are legally dead who donate their organs you may think the among their kidneys and those are still alive and you can begins other people so i want

to qualify if you're really that you know you're not going to come back with the true meaning but you get your question is not reminded open smart is the research you know things already mentioned. embryos and universal the tissues and reversing that we can do better but as a single tissue types there which is much easier to hold him for his new zealand organism so sorry i don't question the boundaries there's also some successful researcher research partners who actually license that part rejection florida now being able to take a rabbit kidney which is now quite a large mass crime preserve us hold this note for months we will be implanted in the rabbits and it functions so bessel right promising and there's a lot of research now underway to enable reversible preservation of human organs because you can imagine right now if you need a hospital alone it's very hard to get one when it's issued much of the flight across the country on ice and you may not make it inside and tens of thousands of people die every year because they can't get moment where she could cry resent welcomes a lost little dramatic as needed so that's the goal and i think report events

fireworks and use it don't do that so that's a pretty good evidence we also have other kinds of evidence. and using doing c.t. scans about patients brains that liquid mushrooms opera chip i don't feel that we could really tell how well we krycek and so now we can actually look at the scans and we can see how much i spend here isn't and is a white right in some cases it looks fantastic and it's not. so good and young now how long this way was because of the. girls or other kinds of studies you can do electron microscope studies that look more deep and we can see an incident studies that the neurons to be connections between cells aren't but entirely good place at least and so what we know is that we preserve the structure of the brain that's busway you know that's where your your mind is your memories are so really it's just a matter of how to be reversed the future and that really now it will suspect is it because it's in the future we think probably some kind of no medical device is not a robotic device is going to the cells will matter what this little bit like the

petals just like we have it will you not trees of these be programs and there was a cure at the damage. hopefully we're going to bring you back. ok so the whole idea of bringing someone to life after decades or hundreds of years of creating preservation can really work out in the end only the brain remains and dashed and i mean that touches so many are scientists and they all tell me that you have to spy on us and to be investments they still have no idea how our brain actually functions i mean how it functions exactly do we have how brain tissues behave if it's stored at the measurer temperature of $196.00 degrees below 0 or $300.00 degrees below 0. yes we do what we know has nothing happening temperature it's so cold that you go through a phase transition where you become a consultant dom and minus 110 degree something like that and so there is actually

an 0 metabolic rates and we know for sure that you will see in the movie not ice which longers says he's missed the dreams that doesn't happen in reality it is notable that gets a d. no brain activity. so gets us consideration cause it raise cynics who gets the wrong dislodging molecules occasionally there's really nothing happening so we know that's the case and again with these scans of the studies we can see we can look at the branches sure we can get biopsies that actually see it but the structure intact so i think part of the near side is you talking to or exaggerating being little modest because we do know a lot about the brain but what we know is that we know that everything is up short some memories maybe last 20 minutes or so well stored physical changes in the brain and we know from these electronic newsgroup studies that we opposite any of them to be conditions so it's just like i'm about not general anesthesia and you don't remember the last 15 or 20 minutes but so long as we presume you're well enough and we have the repents laws you should have everything else the one time it was a big test and most likely in reality it was going to be some damage many people

and some loss and that's just about you has to do with. ok so let's presume the technology's there right to wake you after these krios lee they are 100 years have you thought about what movie like to wake up to a completely different war of initially have yeah yeah a lot of this is you know different levels that we're shooting think about we've actually very recently formed a group which focuses on exactly that question on the other end of the process because it's a long way off but it's important to think about now because frankly the thing that scares people most about this is that it might work and they say well i might come back in a future this radically different how my school 3 don't know anybody so we have a group and so she addressing those issues very specifically having said remembrance of you preserve your ocean ships is going to take care of me on the other end this part out was mission by the way to actually help to rehabilitate people coming out of coma after a long time we got just written about the dog going to get him some help us not swallow all of the audience so i think on the other nouns. something about futurism

you just focus the methods of study history and my view is that of the general questions we have no idea what will be like because we can't walk us that far and it's not possible but we can see general trends you can look back at human history and i know it's not hard to believe this these days people is complaining about how bad things are but this is the best time ever in human history we live longer with syria you have more opportunities than ever and i think we'll see this trend over time with things do get better you know we have these ups and downs occasionally but you can't really think the time in the past way you want to look if you really stick about the right to wills was what we didn't have and it's these you know wanted and sepsis when women couldn't vote when the hearing was flames when we beat double relentlessly mental processes pretty awful place so by extension unless we get really messed things up i would think that the future if we come back should be a pretty decent place it's not going to be utopia but it is a place where probably enjoy starting again and it does take the sense of the bench no doubt about it mark you will not want to do that students that short and work because they just don't have that much of a sense of direction so it's not so people to people who you know are not worried

about having to restart things people have changed countries or you're mute made a cultural shift like this would you be raised to do right now if the technology was in place. i know you want to do it unless i have to do it because the idea of sitting about a week with my should control why does the news not great being that i want to control witness the need so it's it's a last resort areas or even the thing else is possible i'm hoping desperately that life extension science will go an os that has really got rules on a console that maybe just maybe never know for years i might start gaining enough time so i won't need to because it was getting caught up nationalistic peace agreements or because there will need to be curbs are there no i don't want to do it it's just that i would rather not be buried in the ground was interacting so this is my back but what should matter then take a short break right now while we're back we'll continue talking to max moore philosopher a futurist current a master at present there are areas of our current extension foundation talking

about is it possible to freeze ourselves and then come back to life stay with us. do you. go with the new machine the sort of beach storm of the lower street. when you go to the movies go to movie. that still has the soul of the. family to put you to.

the global seller markets approximately just under 2 trillion so certainly within a few months because it will be vaulting over so it's on its way in my believe in 2021 to get half way or so against the market capitalization of gold that it would be 4 trillion on its way to 10 trillion and then you know once again there's only $10.00 left. join me everything on the alex i'm unsure and i'll be speaking to guess of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. the british and american governments have often been accused of destroying lives in their own interest what you see in this these techniques is the state devising methods to him to essentially destroy the personality of an individual. by

scientific. this is how one doctor's theories were allegedly used in psychological warfare against prisoners deemed a danger to the state that was the foundation for the method of psychological interrogation psychological torture of the cia disseminated within the us intelligence community and worldwide among our allies for the next 30 years and how the victims say they still live with the consequences today. and we're back with max more of the loss of her future is the current ambassador and president of the writers of our life extension foundation so max well talking about the time for

a minute you say bring in the person that actually lived past your career preservation is not a matter of physics but technology right at that will one day will be please i heard some scientists say this may take hundreds and even thou thousands of years what time frame do you have in mind. i'm always very cautious in how i answer that because you know there are some people like to say well it's 30 years will have superintelligence a lot in 30 years who have this i don't know i think it's like asking someone in 1900 when we land on the moon and i would ask that you know it's possible because it doesn't but it was at the 6 where you have to do the last minute systems of the engines and it didn't exist so it's you know if i'm pressed i'll say i'm guessing it's probably you want proof you about for some other team so if you fire 125 and i says at this close i'm going to go to bring in somebody brought us and i could be well off well the decimal point is so far bringing people back to life from death frozen state isn't something that science knows how to do and nobody who is signing

up today as well as nobody who is doing the freezing will naturally lead to the day when science figures it out which is already a big if right so they're thinking nobody really child competes here where you can guarantee alc or will even exist 10 years down the road and that all the frozen up bodies one just disappears 'd and where well that's a good question actually just specializing in soup particle amount for a magazine that you know it's all kind of organizations will produce more and outsource molds you know it was very good at the designs luster very long time going around so it was 49 years at this point we have certain structures in place you know that structure which tends to last longer than slow progress asians we have several different wars that now we have one board of directors that just looks up at the money that's used to pay people to be crimes and stay quiet reserved and eventually be revived so middle or levels of protection when you know don't like a lot of details on that and you know we we know people who are not legal know us that will be a direct incentive to bring people back because they want to bring back. the

chamber co-founder who's working about one out she has been a spy reserve the other is for president so despite aspirants and so doesn't brag about the small stakes but some good luck she set up trusts you can get that sense of it and say you know it's not it's possible to revive me you can have x. percent of this trust which is use no goodness money when we come back so that's kind of a lot of different ways that we can incentivize them. here's another thing that's father i mean obviously not everyone can afford the procedure right because so far for now this is something that is only open to affluent people what makes you think they want to stay this way that it one becomes sort of like i don't know elite preserving barrier of sorts. well honestly ashland bestir depending on how you define it it's when i sign up for cracks and there's a report grad student. this woman has a form but most people in western societies put it that way mostly because if you

were just kind as a chunk of cash $8000.00 for something the brain it's a wonder doesn't it all must be reduced life insurance policies and it's not a very large lump insurance policy so if you have you know there are reasonable income you can do that but yes not cheap there are possible ways of making it less expensive as time goes on if you have economies of scale one of the directors. wrote a piece about preserving everyone that he results or vote for sarah soon industrialism was rich in his massive tax and you can imagine having tree of all people in a good center would be looking for that duty or costs they're always doing that so hopefully we could reduce the cost but this now it will cost in. what we call a standby and a transfer getting your team to the boats. that can be expensive to get up and we got the surgery though we specifically didn't cost of course the upkeep which regression reducing the cost a bit so it's not never going to be super cheap i don't think so we're not machines that make everything for us and we get that lucky but it's not it's not as

expensive as people saying ok in that case if it's affordable for everyone. and if at some point like when cell phones for instance freezing yourself can be revived in the future will become commonplace once humanity be stack at some point with like a whole lot of frozen assets or is waiting to verify that we will gain us things for us and our children but also our path. yeah i think though it lands you suppose . one thing about it we don't realize it's going to ultimately was still strong in the publishing world is a problem actually it now is remote in russia the polish is not growing it's not growing anywhere in europe it's still growing in one of western european countries so i don't think we'll have 40 percent was what lucian's are now stopping growing will start to shrink so it was the 1960 route it was the peak for those events and i'm going down down down and even the un which is consistently over estimated

population growth you can see us predicting its mid-range that sometimes richer in the century go up which will stop growing many question re shrinking by the cost of trying to shrink in quite quite drastically now so the problem the future of the population problem which is actually how to deal with an economically so i don't think there's any lack of room though because your room energy gets more abundant which it does i think what we want to do that's so i'm not really worried about that as you. know there. is no sound like a very appealing idea especially if there's an asp ace for all of us and a future i also looking at gas as something reversible and i who send their e. well why so many fall for it that i had to hand isn't dying part of the way things are this planet i mean this circle of life are boring to leave we down the end a living creatures have their legs last them you know why should we accept that

just because something as being that way strong time doesn't going to accept it mean that's slavery was considered a natural wrong so i'm very much of a society that it doesn't need us and syria good thing right we died a lot younger in the past is it natural to. z's or cancer or more to have antiseptic so young you know. so this is nature of human beings to change richard so i think you know to see it best i think is what has lost paris and isn't this going to make people uneasy but really why should we why should we be fall. just because nature the size i don't. mean rank why don't we get to choose that and the goal isn't to live forever and sorry we don't see an all around eternity because that's not for you know you can disagree boss of what it's really saying that you should get to choose how long rather than it being an accident of nature that's what you meant maybe 750 years some of us don't want to do you had enough but i think i'd be less pretty your choice and choice bionic limbs. you know this whole

korea thing is basically our friend people what religion offers re the promise of an afterlife now because no prosecutor in the judge's religion bill is there and the hope is very thinking i hope you know that there is no death plague that there is something after death is there i come back when there is late is a charity and it's not like i go x. finished a religion does the same thing like you you're saying well once your body is dead there is something afterwards so don't wear it and just let us make a difference there's a big difference i think most of us know how many people say you know this where is religion so billions of people because they want certainty and we don't waste i was one of the british probably going to guarantee this will work it spends a lot of things in general and a group of people in case that people don't like but likable incidents like black uncertainty religions of a certain view will definitely go to no more help we don't on other it's you know when we don't go and see what will be like and i'll guarantee you the birds it's in front of him but so it really is much less than it requires

a good understanding of science and technology behind it was like a religion we made it like religion we wanted to be a lot more successful as it was an industry an organization because we don't believe in doing it but we that would be unethical but you know with all respect i mean religions have existed for centuries you just starting you know to actually operator you're saying you know and in the future sometime it's just a question of time we will have the answer of how to you know come back to the thrown out so that it's sterile ino to me sounds like. a religion where your promise is based on faith because you know people will freeze them solid those who choose to are believing that they will come back he does you know it's not it's going to do a favor i don't like the word space because i'm not i'm not religious are rationalised but there's a difference when you go somewhere and say don't you so can we call on mom in one day was a matter of taste i don't think so as a matter of 9 votes there's excess you know if you stop it. for you so hard not to

get out of the atmosphere we know out there it's going to go wrong it's that big right now life support systems in france what should we work on it rose britain's former royal 59 who said the space travel was impossible well he looked beautiful 10 years later we landed on the moon creational better because it's a matter of engineering science so you know i don't think i'm going to do with states it will be a drop in cities but we do the opposite so we design the treated that way because their relations are all rated at question so loaded as we possibly question also you're right jason also across no as you can see just how we can do better looking at the resurgence going on so no i wouldn't make that comparison was all right last hour thanks a lot for his really interesting chat between great talking to you good luck with everything. we need to do this a couple of years and you have seen you have tapes for me he know we're doing a lot of research right now so we're going to be using so you have

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in the 1920 s. and thirty's several 100 african-americans moved to the soviet union and many of their descendants still live in russia. or going at the risk of you know no rush but i thought of stuff yes it. was one thing. back home black americans suffered from racism and a complete lack of prospects. of the real. one by else a store. so they decided to leave everything behind and start a new life in a country about which they knew almost nothing a total number of the. united. around great crowd. moulay of golf you want to call. you. know almost a 100 years later the history is repeating itself my great grandfather george time

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