tv Documentary RT February 22, 2021 8:30pm-9:00pm EST
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seemed wrong. but old rules just don't. let me. get to shape out just because educated and engaged with equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart. just to look for common ground. my father had contacted many lawyers in both canada and in the united states and no one most prepared to do this they were very very brave to go up against the government in this way that night parents thought of them as heroes and and so today david or like coach standing as
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a member of parliament didn't really help as much. as the powers that be an ottawa room were concerned about not rocking the boat with their american colleagues and they were about. dancing a case that was brought by one of their own members of parliament to. do a lot of bizarre physical therapy is going on in psychiatry at the time. but no one had ever used the combination of very powerful drugs convulsive therapy extended sleep sensory isolation and all the other methods. she was using there had been there was never anything like this. where i grew up this was my street. you see that tree there i remember when i could put my fingers around it we planted that tree so that trees planted in 1945
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it's quite a long time ago. harvey decided to write a book about his father's experiences. as he researched the legal case he began to get a lot of attention. some strange things were happening may always arriving in our house open. there were all these strange clicks on the telephone. and then about 2 weeks after that i'm driving to pick up my kids from a school dance clear night. clear road. from behind me comes a car with no headlights slams into me pushes me off the road and disappears. something that i haven't spoken about nothing like this of course ever happened again but it. interesting questions.
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a little about al qaeda and how that group was able to evolve to a point where you learn later that the 19th. with box cutters was able to bring the united states war news long and. immediately milk was ordered to florida to help draw up the town of afghanistan on . late at least in a little league in the 2001 i made the decision life changing decision a turned out to be to go to afghanistan and to do that with my wife my children. the war on terrorism begins america and britain strike afghanistan.
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on october the 7th 2001 the war on terror began its public its pure panic this isn't just the united states bombing sorties and come paints this is now soldiers on the ground people in the streets. killing people arresting people torturing people and on the target. muslim was captured and detained in the background for a new. in february 2003 he was taken to guantanamo bay detention camp accused of being a member of al qaeda. he was considered high risk and for the next 22 months he was held in solitary confinement.
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after $911.00. in a sea of the. it was lydia islam who did i told all security and explained to me the u.s. government asked him to arrest me. mamadou was accused of being the leader of an al qaeda cell in both germany and montreal. in the chaos president bush signed a secret directive giving the cia to kill all captured terrorists anywhere. in the years that followed several dozen crisscrossed the globe making thousands of flights. with an
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onslaught of prisoners the bush administration drew up a memorandum. known as the tool. it set out the legal basis for using these techniques in the war on terror and cited the hooded men's $978.00 judgment. within months of the cia these methods. and all its black sites. they called them in hong interrogation techniques. this cia turn to contract psychologist who had no experience with al qaeda who had no experience with interrogations and had no experience in the middle east jim and i went into a cubicle set down under a he said out of the typewriter and together we wrote out the list as techniques
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that we thought. had worked well in the search cool well i had already been told that the geneva conventions didn't apply to the capture of detainees did not did not apply to the couch of detainees by the authorities at the cia and so i don't think i thought about geneva conventions. made became what i was often referred to as a modern day equivalent of snake oil salesman these 2 psychologists who were awarded a $183000000.00 contract to run a program of torture. c n n psychosis used to cameron's experiments on sensory deprivation and i haven't along with the cold will see a program to create a horrific mix of torture techniques. all social change has almost
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entirely taken place in consequence something else. it does not control. we need to protect society from those that can think of one small thing to kill us the strong must protect others from these people. the american psychological association is who. the world's largest organisation of psychologists and probably has the most influence over the community of psychologists around the world. secretly the a.p.a. psychologists but king in the tour to present to override that ethical code to do
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new holland if the military and cia be quiet. program of abusive interrogations the program of torture at the cia was designed by psychologists and one tunnel was designed by a psychologist and a psychiatrist after they were trained in the techniques and in the program of the cia abuse. and that's when i could basically stand you know. and so suddenly i went crown and just being a psychologist in my office. to becoming the face of opposition to the a.p.'s position. the war is a strategic business. our planning and our execution needs to be really well thought out. and it has consequences
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for years. i was in conversations with the department defense and with the white house. and i learned that we had psychiatrists and psychologists who were advising the interrogation teams. then i learned that they were not just advised that they were involved. by i was stunned. it's taken all this time for me to build the picture of what's been involved here and the secrecy that was behind this torture program.
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was a pandemic no certainly no blood is just blood into nationalities. has emerged with the we don't look like the whole world needs to be. judged. 2 come in a crisis like this. we can do better we should be. everyone is contributing. but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created with the response has been so many good people are helping
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us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together. really the beginning of the changing of the guard you know there and the relationship all over africa is also there. in the punishment wing known as india block mamadou was isolated from only i think detainee. recorded the feeds because it's
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a video call. i was there was loads i mean there was a level no food nothing total isolation. the psychological and physical toll chip and i was been until the age of 27 that was. the medical. field because of my activism that i was glad to in getting it somewhere to do harm to say that is it over me. this it be that who confessed to little cry or we're going to put you in the door. and i said. go for it then you must i was really stupid hero bag the. american said the logic says that without you they wouldn't meet $911.00.
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suddenly mama did was cloths the most prisoners in guantanamo. the role of psychologist in this torture program astounds me i saw that we're heading down a road that i knew was going to be disastrous. in 2002 mach put his neck on the line and then to see perry's. the to see i quit using check. i felt like there was an avalanche you can see these boulders coming down and you can wave a wand you try to stop it i could not stop what was happening. the bloodthirst to torture people was just too. green for any one person stop. your interrogation rules of engagement go far beyond should need a convention stress positions and sleep management dietary manipulation all of these things go far beyond a standard which says there will be no physical or mental torture nor any other
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form of course that's the geneva convention these rules of engagement for interrogation issued by your department are inconsistent with those my recollection is that any instructions that have been issued or anything that's been authorized by the department was checked by the lawyers in your shop in the department in the office of the secretary of defense and deemed to be consistent with the chain absolutely and us secretary of defense donald rumsfeld was convinced that mohammed he recruited 3 of the $911.00 hijackers he personally authorized a 90 day special projects status from hama to with her endless consequence and 7 the order to abuse prisoners was only going to build up to that almost all water they need justification and so what they did was they send a colonel. to guantanamo to look and try to justify what was going on.
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and he said quote tunnel bay is america's battle land. and the moment i heard that it evoked memories of. it evoked memories of what the not nazis were doing experiments. to see the stuff that it was the sleep deprivation regime. and then a massive guy disease. it was very dog except for most of all bloods. and then he said. and then he stopped playing these music and the bodies on the floor all day long. you know. i cannot explain to one someone is but doing. the floor and. 2 women. and force them onto.
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a no war has a moral imperative. america after $911.00 was in shock. and i think we have been deeply frightened and i think that fear how was it exploited certainly in the years after that and has continued to be exploited. when it was done is you more nato entities and. i you know i've met a number of them you know so many probably more than anyone else on earth can you tell me about them. i can't specifically talk about what i have. my meetings with them or what i've learned about these men. i've
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met colleagues shaikh mohammad. ali bin a. ramzi bin al s'shibh amar al believe she. and. these banned were subjected to all these tactics and there is absolutely no evidence. absolutely not a shred of evidence that it did these. tactics used on these men really gave us any intelligence that was important or useful to our country. iraq morph into what we call isis today. the same. it's just a manifestation of torture. these are potential we created and we're living with
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those results today. you said that you bases. this is absolutely work crimes we knew there. this new substitute. is here to rectify 10 years of deceitful and secret collusion to impede the will of the membership. interim still going to rise of the test with the a.p.a. this coming. through here today. to reset our moral compass. he had been trying for 10 years to prevent psychologists from being part of national security interest asians. that it's. going to be politics and we changed
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and. after being held for 3 years. was released without charge. in the fight to get on a plane. what would have happened what i'd end up in guantanamo with these with these painful with this painful period ever have happened would i be the person i have today i caught on to those questions but i do often say to myself why didn't i just get on a plane and go back. to do these confessions were found to be the result of torture. he was released without charge after 14 years in kuantan the man. i was no match for them they destroyed me they would they have broken and there is nothing i could say you know to save my
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face of to say all i want no i did not because those people out a profession of doctors who studied just for this purpose to destroy human spirit and make it dependent began and make them confess to what ever they wanted them to confess to. in august 2017 the 2 psychologists who created the cia's torture program were about to be put on trial we were soldiers doing what we were instructed to do we knew it was lawful we knew it was legal we knew it had been vetted in approved do you think it's possible as a psychologist that an individual who was subjected to them suffered a long term physical or psychological harm. do you think it's possible that our sleep depravation taken to the extreme could induce severe mental pain or suffering
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action. the cia settled out of cool for an undisclosed amount no liability was submitted. world lol and government will intensify the problem of the growing of the common. what we must do is to see. its new go friendly in all unflinchingly along those. a world in which we must at last to find the responsibility for ourselves. to ensure that in the fight again. isis and al kut. we continue to have all the necessary power to detain terrorists wherever we chase them down where ever we find them. and in many cases for them it will now be one tatt imo.
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thanks for asking him to on a construction program has been announced at guantanamo bay which could see it troubled inclination. what makes this issue important one tunnel has become the calling cry tour here is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great again. the united states right now is. a terrorist attack away from instituting torture. since the 950 s. we know these techniques have been yeast in afghanistan and tina australian. british guyland british coming canada. great britain.
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we're more politicized than ever we're more polarized than ever the 21st century when speed is measured in megabytes per 2nd. listed on the. seeds in him electronic mail electronic money electronic media infinite possibilities for exchanging information i mean me and my military nationalized freedom of speech and social media bent censorship and double standards who should judge what can be said online. but i want. the
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internet audience now totals almost 4500000000 almost all of them are active social network users put one wrong move on their pages deleted digital annihilation don't exist anymore. not who runs the show on the web how can anyone stand up to the tech giants if even heads of state face the threat of being banned is there any limits to hold that virtual power. reasonable for a minute but i will if reasonable way. is your media a reflection of reality. in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe. isolation or community. are you going the right way or are you being
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russia accuses the e.u. of meddling in its entirety the for the bloke impose the sanctions over the trading of opposition take i say no follow me through solving time for freule and. infiltrating russian language media unique don't he was just the british government so to boost negative coverage and we couldn't russia. while in england prime minister boris johnson hopes it's time lucky with the steps plan to lifting thievin may to slow down to schools and that despite persistently high do you mean you didn't factions. and there were down to tidy and all pressing against the sputnik the job while on tour and that was a thought.
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