my father had contacted many lawyers in both canada and in the united states and no one most prepared to do this they were very very brave to go up against the government in this way that night parents thought of them as heroes and and so today david or like coach standing as a member of parliament didn't really help as much. as the powers that be an ottawa room were concerned about not rocking the boat with their american colleagues and they were about. dancing a case that was brought by one of their own members of parliament. there were a lot of bizarre physical therapy is going on in psychiatry at the time. but no one had ever used the combination of very powerful drugs convulsive therapy extended sleep sensory isolation and all the other methods. she was

using there had been there was never anything like this. where i grew up this was my street. you see that tree there i remember when i could put my fingers around it we planted that tree so that trees planted in 1945 it's quite a long time ago. harvey decided to write a book about his father's experience seems. as he researched the meat ok so he began to get a lot of attention. some strange things were happening and they always arriving in our house open. there were all these strange clicks on the telephone. and then about 2 weeks after that i'm driving to pick up my kids from a school dance clear night. road. from behind me comes

a car with no headlights on slams into me pushes me off the road and disappears. it's something that i haven't spoken about nothing like this of course ever happened again but it. interesting questions. sarah has been making about her grandmother since 2009. i think of it. i never got i never got. over. this was about history of the fifty's and sixty's.

the united states would be using. i have to. travel to it but i really didn't. i didn't. even existed. i would never forgive. us for the gentleman. one of the workers. of america. and i will see what. i am.

in my office we don't know. when the food storage room along. the way. it's a little about al qaeda and how that group was able to evolve to a point where you learn later that the 19th. with box cutters was able to bring the united states war news long and. immediately mock was ordered to florida to help draw up the invasion of afghanistan on. late at least in

a little league in the 2001 i made the decision life changing decision it turned out to be to go to afghanistan and to do that with my wife my children. the war on terrorism begins america and britain strike afghanistan. on october the 7th 2001 the war on terror began its public can spew a panic this isn't just the united states bombing sorties and come paints this is now soldiers on the ground people in the streets. killing people arresting people torturing people and on the target. muslim was captured and detained in the background for a new. in february 2003 he was taken to guantanamo

bay detention camp accused of being a member of al qaeda. he was considered high risk and for the next 22 months he was held in solitary confinement. after $911.00. in the sea of the quote. it was lydia is sleep the director of our security through school and explain to me the u.s. government asked him to arrest me. mamadou was accused of being the leader of an al qaeda cell in both germany and montreal.

in the chaos president bush signed a secret directive giving the cia to kill all captured terrorists anywhere. in the years that followed several dozen crisscrossed the globe making thousands of flights. with an onslaught of prisoners the bush administration drew up a memorandum. known as the tool. it set out the legal basis for using these techniques in the war on terror and cited the hooded men's $978.00 judgment. within months of the cia these methods. and all its black sites. they called them in hong interrogation techniques.

this cia turn to contract psychologist who had no experience with al qaeda who had no experience with interrogations and had no experience in the middle east jim and i went into a cubicle said downard he said out of the typewriter and together we wrote out the list as techniques that we thought. had worked well in the search cool well i had already been told that the geneva conventions didn't apply to the captured detainees did not did not apply to the couch of detainees by the authorities at the cia and so i don't think i thought about geneva conventions. made became what i was often referred to as a modern day equivalent of a snake oil salesman these 2 psychologists were awarded a $183000000.00 contract to run

a program of torture. c n a psychosis it's used to cameron's experiments on sensory deprivation and i haven't along with the code will see a program to create a horrific mix of touchy techniques. all social change has almost entirely taken place in consequence something else. it does not control. we need to protect society from those that can think it's one small thing to kill us the strong protect others from these people. the american psychological association is who were. largest organization

of psychologists and probably has the most influence over the community of psychologists around the world. secretly the a.p.a. psychologists but king in the tour to present to override that ethical code. if the minute change in cia be quiet it. program of abusive interrogations the program of torture at the cia was designed by psychologists and one tunnel was designed by a psychologist and a psychiatrist after they were trained in the techniques and in the program of the cia abuse. and that's when i could basically stand you know. and so suddenly i went crime and just being the psychologist in my office

. to becoming the face of opposition to the a.p.'s position. war is a strategic business. our planning and our execution needs to be really well thought out. and it has consequences for years. i was in conversations with the department defense and with the white house. and i learned that we had psychiatrists and psychologists who were advising the interrogation teams. then i learned that they were not just advised that they were involved. by i was stunned.

it's taken all this time for me to build the picture of what's been involved here and the secrecy that was behind this torture program. and. is your media a reflection of reality. in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe. isolation community. are you going the right way or are you being led. away. what is true what is faith.

in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the depths. or remain in the shallows. it's been decades since the fall of spain's fascist regime but old wounds still haven't healed. me from you know. me coffee to market economy suppose. you mean on the bus at us is mean older than just that they seem cause me to you know. of newborn babies were torn from their mothers and given away and forced adoption i don't know a lot about a. bit of my own role but as a fellow mentor to this day mothers still search for grown children while adults look in hope for their birth parents.

but the demick no certainly no borders to nationalities. as america we caught up with the we don't look back seem the whole world needs to. judge. coming. classist least. we can do better we should be. everyone is contributing each other own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenge is great the response has been massive so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together.

in the punishment wing known as india block mamadou was isolated from only i think detainee. who could do the freed because it's video call. i was there was. i mean there was a level no food nothing total isolation. the psychological and physical toll on chip and i was been attended to 247 that was. a medical. field because of my activism that i was glad to do in

getting it somewhere to do harm to their does it omit. this is either to confess to little crime or we're going to put you in the doorstep of the law and i said. go for it then you must i was really stupid the hero bag the. american said the logic says that without you they wouldn't meet $911.00. something mamma did was close the most prisoners in guantanamo. the role of psychologist in this torture program astounds me i saw that we're heading down a road that i knew was going to be disastrous. in 2002 mach put his neck on the line and then to see perry's. the to see i quit music.

i felt like there was an avalanche you can see these boulders coming down and you can wave you launching you try to stop it i could not stop what was happening. the bloodthirst to torture people was just too. green for any one person stop. your interrogation rules of engagement go far beyond should need a convention stress positions sleep management dietary manipulation all of these things go far beyond a standard which says there will be no physical or mental torture nor any other form of course that's the geneva convention these rules of engagement for interrogation issued by your department are inconsistent with those my recollection is that any instructions that have been issued or anything that's been authorized by the department was checked by the lawyers in your shop in the department in the office of the secretary of defense and deemed to be consistent with it you know

absolutely and it's us secretary of defense donald rumsfeld was convinced that mohammed he recruited 3 of the $911.00 hijackers he personally authorized a 90 day special projects status from hamas with her in this consequence and 7 the order to abuse prisoners was only going to build up to that almost all water they need justification and so what they did was they send a colonel. to guantanamo to look and try to justify what was going on. and he said quote tunnel base is america's battle land. and the moment i heard that it evoked memories of. it evoked memories of what the nazis were doing experiments . to see if they started with the sleep deprivation regime. and then a massive guy disease. it was very dog except for most of all blights.

and then he stopped playing these music and did the bodies in the floor all day long. you know. i cannot explain to you one someone is but doing. the floor and. 2 women. and force them on to. me know that war has a moral imperative. america after $911.00 was in shock. and i think we had been deeply frightened and i think that fear how was it exploited

certainly in the years after that and has continued to be exploited. by interest on things you more nato detainees than any other person i've you know i've met a number of them you know so many probably more than anyone else on earth can you tell me about them. i can't specifically talk about what i have. my meetings with them or what i've learned about these men. that i've met khalid shaikh mohammad. ali bin a tosh. ramzi bin al s'shibh some are al baluchi. and. these banned were subjected to all these tactics and there is absolutely no evidence. absolutely not a shred of evidence that it did these. tactics

used on these men really gave us any intelligence that was important or useful to our country. you know iraq more than what we call isis today. i saw the same. it's just a manifestation of torture. these are potential we created and we're living with those results today. you said. oh this is absolutely work crimes we knew there. this new substitute. is here to rectify 10 years of deceitful and secret collusion to impede the will of the membership.

interim still comprised of the test is with the a.p.a. is coming. through here today. to reset our moral compass. he had been trying for 10 years to prevent psychologists from being part of national security interest geishas. that it's. going to be politics and we changed and. after being held for 3. was released without charge. in the fight to get on a plane. what would have happened what i'd end up in guantanamo would these with these painful with this painful period ever have happened would i be the person i

had today i caught on to those questions but i do often say to myself why didn't i just get on a plane and go back. and do these confessions were found to be the result of torture. he was released without charge after 14 years in kuantan a man. i was no match for them they destroyed me they would they have broken and there is nothing i could say you know to save my face of the say or i want to know i did not because those people out a profession of doctors who studied just for this purpose to destroy human spirit and make it dependent be a dia and make them confess to what ever they wanted them to confess to. in august 2017 the 2 psychologists who created the cia's torture program were about

to be put on trial we were soldiers doing what we were instructed to do we knew it was lawful we knew it was legal we knew it had been vetted in approved do you think it's possible as a psychologist that an individual who was subjected to them suffered a long term physical or psychological. do you think it's possible that our sleep deprivation taken to the extreme could induce severe mental pain or suffering picture. the cia settled out of cool for an undisclosed amount no liability was submitted. world full of government will intensify the problem of the growing of the common. but we must. go friendly and all on fluently along those.

a world in which we must at last to find the responsibility for ourselves. to ensure that in the fight it gets. yes and i'll cut it we continue to have all necessary power to detain terrorists wherever we chase them down wherever we find them. and in many cases for them it will now be one tatt imo. cough the name donna struction profound has been announced at guantanamo bay which could see it tripled in population. what makes this issue important when tunnel has become the calling cry tour here is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great again.

the united states right now is. a terrorist attack away from instituting torture. since the 950 s. we know these techniques have been yeast in afghanistan. australia. brazil british guyland british coming canada. great britain. iran iraq israel. in morocco you know the 9 pakistan the philippines poland rumania. turkey you o'clock pm and.

i am. this is the beginning of the changing of the guard in our now handing the baton off to china as the number one economy in the 21st century the numbers are there the

statistics are there their relationships in your here. or there the relationship with russia and iran is their you know their and their relationship all over africa is also there. were more politicized than ever or more polarized than ever the 21st century when speed is measured in megabytes per 2nd. most of them their views in your. electronic mail electronic money electronic media infinite possibilities for exchanging information i mean. freedom of speech and social media bends censorship and double standards who should judge what can be said online. the internet audience know totals almost 4500000000 almost all of them are active

social network users put one wrong move on their pages deleted digital annihilation don't exist anymore. not who runs the show on the web how can anyone stop. up to the tech giant sci fi from heads of state faced the threat of being banned is there any limits to hold. but i was a reasonable way. the world is driven by shaped by one person.

thinks. we dare to ask. to choose the morning's headlines is the view of meddling in its internal affairs as the block imposes sanctions of the jailing of opposition figure elect me for the role. also this morning israelis can now be patted for most public places leaving some jobs unless they've been vaccinated with the so-called green passes a racing rights concerns on the growth in forged documents. and in the us as workplaces even families pay the price of deepening divisions despite political calls to come together again.