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hertz on the mechanisms that we agree. are necessary to deal with the past with legacy yes it's cold and obvious you are a post conflict society here on this science we need to move ahead and we need to be able to future to get there but we also need steel with the past and there has been just an extraordinary resistance and almost simple insurance the parks are. bars johnson and his government trade they have block of land going to say joint johnson would deny that and says there would be a storm about a fury of any soldiers with charge of a bloody sunday and there's absolutely nothing new for any trial to discover. well you need to allow the courts to discover what they just cover insurance on their own day or clue pollutions i mean what we had agreed to between all of us was asked are a different matter medicines that would be made available to everyone. who suffered
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extend the course of the conflict at the hands of guests british soldiers but also at the hands of republicans and loyalists and the objections here is to give families to give instant survivors every opportunity including going to the courts if they wish to establish for themselves the truth and to establish justice and she gives them some level of quote friction a lot of the laws can never really truthfully be compensation for but i think it is quite insulting to people from all sides who have been through air really really vicious conflict and who are suffering previously to consistently block the channels that they need to and requires to get shoot them justice and just remember the storm and how supreme it i mean it's one of a litany of agreements estate between the irish and british governments the british government signed on to our allowance for all of these mechanisms for true to
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recovery end street justice so for boris johnson and his administration out to block and frustration all of that is frankly on forgivable well as i said he says as there's nothing new there hand is it not ironic that with corona virus raging around the world it's the irish police is new to enforcing the border in ireland at the moment even as error fails to vaccinate its people compared to. being vaccinated by the british government in london. well my goodness those are loads of those questions well now a look inside france happens on the island is and as a speech in our job we're actually here mr 2 or a 5 kilometer search zone outside our home so the requirement is that nobody leaves unless it is necessary for shopping or if you have to go to work outside if you're
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is an essential work group or it's your exam sense but but all of us not so know can we not cross boundaries but in my case i ain't transpired inside the concrete so i. don't. see i represent the inner city so that pacifies race across the islands we have had a challenge from the beginning of this sacrament my response is to get a harmonized sation and a cohesion across the island to ensure that we have uniform misty in the control center krycek actions that are right minister bytes of men and bows and patchy to be honest with you but what has been absolutely clear from day one is that in order to keep any of us safe on this side and we need to keep all of us safe and the very best possible approach an income by saying this virus and in ronettes x.e. is to happen all our energy price for a single population and you will know that for the purposes of animal out in the
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past the island has been continued as a single unit so for public health we are a single happy to be allowed to approach a unison that's the sensible way to proceed reso temporarily she in frame supports a border between north and highland and what you called a no no i think i'm just explaining to you because a round of art this isn't tomatoes in any events and dealing with this public health emergency isn't the constitutional question this is if i actually bring people safe this is a. saving people's lives and all of the snow that our movement has been and it looks like will remain restraints that support for x. number of weeks more and in any event some people in southern ireland might wish they were in the north because 400000 vaccines in elster only 200000 in the whole of southern ireland you put the blame firmly on the coalition government and
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government i think there have been at this been quite white collar and shame on the process as a european that like its new european commission has conceded that it's had some folds don't we want to guess as much vaccine as quickly as we can on city island took our events and she spends efficiently and safely and you know this isn't a time sport it's vaccine n.z. our vaccine nationalism i think all of us need to recognize that this is a global phenomenon and actually resharing now a global challenge and to keep each other safe return our support to have a reservoir of this virus anywhere in the world if we do have a reservoir of this and i shared that for guys are an answer right now but i'm talking specifically in the poorest sites if fast is the case and if the wealthier nations and almost monopolize the vaccine well then we are storing up trouble for
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the whole world so this really is perhaps the most dramatic example of just how to ensure it depends and we are as a human race but to your question there is a just sorry as frisbee king as the united states 20 percent versus 3.2 percent of the earth. yeah i am not defending as i don't as you know we're part of so state each side of marcy coalition and the north i.e. the opposition here and don't know many as we are and christian tell us the goals meant for the very slow and sometimes continues to as vaccine ronettes that they preside over presumably bars johnson would say the vaccine nationalism is coming from brussels it was brussels and that was threatening to stop vaccines going joel story one point of course britain has secured a huge amount of vaccine since then yes and has it that the telcos cracks high in mexico no weeks ago from the commissioner and the possibility of trip triggering
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arch 16 was wrong are still 68 was not trigger ignore such a sentiment and we start seeing now require reassurances to i'll stop making our ice just because the commission made that mistake does not mean that it should trigger a whole chain reaction from others including the british government that would just make every bit you so i sat more difficult there's no good sense. because the british government denies it is as any plans and there are people who do suspect there was wasn't a mistake i want to get to the hospital waiting lists because i mean i had to read the figure twice i couldn't believe it 800000 people in the area on hospital waiting lists how do you see ireland being able to recover even in the very shortest of germs from waiting lists of 800 thousands because of coronavirus. yes they are they are there it's shocking i mean that set as shocking indictments
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and a failure really hurt or at a long time to invest properly and open accounts what we need and sure it is we need an irish national service we need to investigate and has in the in madison in our against we have i can see use to tear gas and price that system we absolutely. prices insurance anywhere in the world outside the united states of america that's the wrong direction of travel the correct direction of travel is a good investment expansive investment in our political system and if clouds have a silver lining the price that's the senate the senate hospitals their services and capacity were wired to bite the states at difference junctures and you know there is going to have to be a radical rethink and radical investments and now here it comes out right away
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we're arguing that stay njt i know you're shocked by that state or immobile ation of 5000000 across the coalition's a full 1000000000 has been pumped into that i'm not sure how your view universal health care systems we do know that an arguable friend of shit very joe biden has become president the united states of america and he's fighting universal health care all the way that do you think his election means mean something significant for a united ireland. well it just oh now you know her so let i how care and hope like madison i would regard as he clings to century european project so i think cam and of course i recognize that the british that national health service ace their state aid rules which are pretty strict. yeah there are there are there are but but public health is something that is take knowledge stand and support so i would regard that as a quintessential me european science as president by selection of course it
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is sad is good news for our nancy strong male and lie would say respectively that's right as are the shrewd starting point makes absolutely no secret of his love for this country and his commitment to is he in our it's very very many elders. were in atlanta and. life is right to mess it to he's process and she will as you can just see your he said if you're wearing orange you're not welcome here when he welcomed reacher o'hare formerly of the ira. harry s. and it recites you pronounce i was our represents an agenda united states an extraordinary and i was sounding while out of that reader a fascination well you should interview her sometime i think it's i enter a very interesting i i i think that by comments from the president by this very much song and shape there is no it or afternoon everyone who cares about is hard
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and knows as our international flag demonstrates it is close to the green else the boy understands the aryans and why you seem to get on songs between the 2 or 3 drinks and it's not girl i think it. is aren't you mary lee we don't allow stop you then more from the leader of the opposition an island after this short break. join me every thursday on the alec simon show and i'll be speaking to guest in the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. we're more politicized than ever we're more polarized than ever the 21st century
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when speed is measured in megabytes per 2nd. and of course eating him electronic mail electronic money electronic media infinite possibilities for exchanging information i mean miscreation. wise to freedom of speech and social media bent censorship and double standards who should judge what can be said online . done to the internet audience now totals almost 4500000000 more most all of them are active social network users but one wrong move from their pages deleted digital. don't exist anymore. not who runs the show on the web how can anyone stand up to the tech giants if even heads of state face the threat of being banned is there any limits to hold that. the. new is
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reasonable way. welcome back i'm still here with the president option frame mary lou well i do want to ask you actually about another irish american situation you're aware the u.s. troops landed at shannon airport and broke the covert restrictions in error are you convinced that surance is accurate this won't happen again or is basically a aircraft carrier of the united states why no one else. is a military neutral and start had very very serious concerns for quite some time in. in turn since the use of shannon and the implications for all of that obviously had a great sysfs relationship with the in ice it states it's almost familial i mean this
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is a lot of us in america the irish american to me and she is not something that stands out millions of people but that should not so happy i challenge i think there's more it should be said and then best to get a sense around just at sign and grow nice has offered those assurances at but certainly we intend playing and others will be pressing and further to ensure that nobody is breaking the code frenched rules and restrictions that is dangerous and i'm spritzed jeopardy for a public out but equally we are sensitive to the facts that we are in actually in trial that's a very very important aspect of irish police let not your general how you treat his island it was a long suspected island as was involved in the rendition flights and were us military people anyway flying enjoying coronavirus and staying in hotels in limerick when it does are a very good questions and those are quite precise your questions that have been put
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to cover meant to mean i had bite should dish and has spent in your truck going what way back at the time also one of china when it's not a new fangled sank and irish and the irish perspectives and we are a country as you know it was common iced at by by britain by by yourselves we as parents at dispossession mass emigration partition which is still with us now i am almost just century so we do not share the kind of historical perhaps baggage shorn experience of many of our it you're icky and neighbors were quite sustained in our foreign policy at about ice for a while as an elastic leader ideally and it's important that we protect that because we're never going to be at. and to treat our i partner we are smalls i lens you know i and i and people are outward king but we have we can bring great
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positivity so long as we are true to who we are imes to our experiences and so long . as we are afforded to the space to support to actually standish our democratic journey and by gosh i mean and the partition of our items ok well boris johnson arguably has given you that the irish protocol gave you a border down the irish sea i'm going to speak to the chief whip of the d.v.d. in westminster samuelson in a moment who says that there are there's talk of loyalist attacks on those processing customs claims now because you seem to have a united ireland in terms of business. well they can't be tracked so anybody going up right there in there and j.d. work and facts and some workers where am removed from court at larne epis they're back now to end their work and to the extent i really started to send the north
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confirms that there wasn't any since their way of thinking any serious sample of threats against the us workers i think what has happened is that unionists and in not all star irish union as some has decided that this proceeds all of the proceeds all it's important to remember is in place to protect the all islands economy to protect it and the infrastructure he saw in the iranians at but unionism have to cite this now as a platform that lets it go form an election with the knights of the assembly elections at that are coming up next year and this time sammy was sent and others are of course at liberty and perfectly free in an open society to say what they have to say and say that they're all of 6 but just remember this they were the ones who shouts it's just for breakfast and while they were doing doesn't we tell them everybody told them this was bad news for ireland and they know it just as i know
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the people in the north who are going did not consent to craigslist as a matter of fact they close it to remain or was is only the thank you now to hear from the other side is the democratic unionist party chief whip sammy wilson who joins me here alone in northern ireland sammy thanks for going back on the show i mean things have changed a lot and you were a regular on going underground your once propping up a government that boris johnson was foreign secretary and today things are not so good tell me why you've written to the prime minister will you and you're quite right and do talk to you again by the way past the parliament in respect to changed after the general election the coolant in my youth. you. decided to keep the view that they wanted to see the conservative party before they wanted to see if the union they signed an agreement with the e.u. which didn't so much sell those assaulters over to the e.u.
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and when i become part r.c. semi part of the european union and a semi part of the united kingdom rather than full of little members of the united kingdom and i suppose a reason for them in her like conservative m.p.'s explain that they wanted to ensure the protection was dong the sticking point at that stage was northern ireland and northern ireland can sacrifice to go they don't just those a couple of months ago took the sticking point was the fisherman and the united 'd kingdom and they were through all over or 'd is well under all the problems that were related 'd to their own trigger after an account have been proven so it is going to wreck or appreciate promises to people we're not saying we're going to hold 'd you legally responsible for the changes which you me and which we believe are legal and which we believe the course may well over time. are going to marry
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who are gone about judicial review of a bloody sunday you want to judicial review over the breakfast island protocol but i mean do you know of course see this would happen we right now sheen fane his writing high in the polls for a united ireland defacto you're saying that the tories have broken their promises to you joe biden is now president of the united states he says if you're wearing orange you're not welcome here when famously welcomed return or have his do you prefer a singular. no we're not facing corruption don't forget so our history and nor are we a theist difficult times northern ireland was born this is this is our 100th anniversary we were born from a civil war for the 1st 10 years of our existence we have
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a terrorist county and go organize a strong the irish republic designed to try his eye does the united kingdom and don't forget we went through 'd a 30 year terrorist company and stay within the united kingdom so you know we've been used to these option dynes and our relationship with the united kingdom we have to go in there nicely banging cream saying that unless we get work in sept we can't be removed from the united kingdom and that will be part of our arch article challenge those fish caught talk quite the contrary agreement how do we protect the . good friday agreement up because it ripped up the principle consent they've changed are still us with then the united kingdom and we will have 60 percent were laws in future made by a foreign part of the process adjudicated all about foreign court the european court of justice and that has changed our constitutional status and is being changed completely and under nicely by me. obviously the brothel sees it not on the
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white house sees it i mean when the titanic building mon may be determined to determine who the titanic was to get across the atlantic ocean right now in belfast probably not far from the way you are i understand that there are border checks on goods coming from england and her scotland into of. how long can you cope with that i'm got again as part of our legal challenge because the actual you don't form the united kingdom article 6 of the actual union mixes are clear now as part of the united kingdom there are shouts be no and hadn't to treat between the 4 can't research because the united kingdom so not only has a good friday in the principle of consent being wrapped up in the northern protocol but also the act of union has been ripped up because the 1st hanged and 300
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years we not have been parents to treated across the united kingdom as a result of the normal and protocol and you know those are the 2 things which we believe it was a very sorry piece for challenging an agreement which runs contrary to all the promises which are made to us i want the to the very day you find the issue or elf well you know some people say the working class protestants were used for most or in the 1st world war or you know numerous wars what are your base what is your base going to do in response to these border checks right now i know you've been saying members on the ground loyalist members one to one to threaten the existence of this northern island protocol by attacking the people
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that are de facto breaking the 800 active. well i mean 1st what we don't want to see a return to violence in northern ireland you know we have not encouraged that kind of thinking this said that there's considerable political and legal challenges with could be needed to this agreement and that's what we intend to do we've also want to go and call that if they ignore work as if done so far to gloss over the problems with the protocols because if they nor are those issues then of course you do leave impact him on people who they are frustrated at and gray but willard you know and all of our really hard this history of were you how problems look up you can't be sort of local that equate people to 'd resort to violence of not was very very very cautious up of the up and i believe that the government today to uphold the act of you know. hold integrity of the united kingdom and then also
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judy the people of north florida who they made a promise to you and the belfast agreement that they will not a lie any change in our constitution position to occur with the consent of the people of northern ireland and here they 'd are almost as night taken over the that they did figure out what it's like to can who were in the white house talk about the need to defend the good friday agreement act out of the. well we see joe biden says he's joe biden says he's no ignoramus and actually while the mary mcdonald resists talking about a referendum on the united ireland i'm just going to ask you one comit question because simon let me just one point them up on me but $2000000.00 by talk of a referendum on the position of northern ireland again you would have to rip up the good friday agreement in order to how that referendum goes that the conditions
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and wishart referendum which it is are very clear how it's only where. there is a clear majority of people in northern ireland expressing that this ira cheating ok well you know this sunday dimes poll. about the need for a referendum is being bandied about by by republicans deftly but i just could not let you make that clear the sunday times poll also showed 'd that they were going to georgia people and fear of staying with the united kingdom i'm not being that key yes there is therefore no grind within the belfast good friday agreement for holding the referendum or no to rock the referendum marland the scottish niceness would be almost back for a referendum scotland and surely for how the united kingdom might break up i think that scotland will leave the no in will form our own thoughts. well just find me a code question simon in the south has assured that the us military who apparently were breaking covert regulations in the era that won't happen again how
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how aware are you of the threat of covert scraping from the south to the north now that obviously vaccination rates in the north are so much better than in ireland well the irony of course is that the spite all the talk of being able to how our border for the last month the there i was 15 checks on the border between northern ireland and the irish only and still got went on the guard sure sure all this argument with out how checks on the border. all week is just a lot of nonsense or art and has always be left there in this big checks for future 'd moving throng well armed and in the way then probably assumes northern ireland and the republic not between northern ireland rest and i think and thank
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you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday to speak the us president james kay's nephew on the day of the founding of the british labor party until they join the underground of social media and there was an interview by some radical from eugene because of the like want to turn the oceans on. article of faith russian liberals did not like one of your up until now russian liberals have been chanted with the western so-called western values western ideological locus it is changing its focus of disparages tradition patriotism the family and even logic for russian liberals this appears to be going too far are russian liberals falling out of love with the last.
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100 make no certainly no borders and islam to nationalities. as a march we don't come with the we don't look like seeing the whole world needs to be . people. judging. 2 coming a crisis to see the sentenced times we can do better we should. everyone is contributing each in our own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges create the response has been masked so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. join me every 1st day on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guests of
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the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then. the headlines in r.t. the world health organization warns wealthy countries against hoarding coded faxing surprise pointing to drastic shortages in poor nations that as humanitarian groups raise the alarm over astra zeneca jobs going to waste in europe. we have the safe vaccine and used in the european countries when we have many health workers in the countries that are not. meanwhile half a 1000000 american coby deaths and counting yet no mass vaccination in sight but despite the morbid milestone joe biden escapes the criticism previously leveled donald trump's handling of the crisis and we hear from
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