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many children. to raise. me just for good measure. my father had contacted many lawyers in both canada and the united states and no one most prepared to do this they were very very brave to go up against the government in this way that night parents thought of them as heroes and and so today david or lakos standing as a member of parliament didn't really help us that much. the powers that be an
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audible and work uncertain about not rocking the boat with their american colleagues when they were about. dancing a case that was brought by one of their own members of parliament to. do a lot of bizarre physical therapy is going on in psychiatry at the time. but no one had ever used the combination of very powerful drugs convulsive therapy extended sleep sensory isolation and all the other methods. she was using there had been there was never anything like this. where i grew up this was my street. you see that tree there i remember when i could put my fingers around it we planted that tree so that trees planted in 1945 it's quite a long time ago. poppy decided to write
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a book about his father's experiences. as he researched the legal case he began to get a lot of attention. some strange things were happening and they always arriving in our house open. there were all these strange clicks on the telephone. and then about 2 weeks after that i'm driving to pick up my kids from a school dance clear night. clear road. from behind me comes a car with no headlights slams into me pushes me off the road and disappears. something that i have spoken about nothing like this of course ever happened again but it. interesting questions. sarah has been making about her grandmother since 2009.
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a point where you learn later that the 19th. with box cutters was able to bring the united states war news long and. immediately milk was ordered to florida to help drop the invasion of afghanistan on . a little later. in a little league in the 2001 i made the decision life changing decision it turned out to be to go to afghanistan and to do that with my wife my children. the war on terrorism begins america and britain strike afghanistan.
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on october the 7th 2001 the war on terror began its panic panic this isn't just the united states bombing sorties income paints this is now soldiers on the ground people in the streets. killing people arresting people torturing people and on the target. muslim was captured and detained in the background for a new. in february 2003 he was taken to guantanamo bay detention camp accused of being a member of al qaeda. he was considered high risk and for the next 22 months he was held in solitary confinement.
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after $911.00. received a call. it was the day islam who did it all security and explain to me the u.s. government asked him to only. mamadou was accused of being the leader of an al qaeda cell in both germany and montreal. in the chaos president bush signed a secret directive giving the cia to kill or capture terrorists anywhere. in the years that followed several dozen crisscrossed the globe making thousands of flights. faced with an onslaught of prisoners the bush administration drew up
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a memorandum. known as the tool. it set out the legal basis for using these techniques in the war on terror and cited the hooded men's $978.00 judgment. within months of the cia rolled out these methods. and all its black sites. they called them in hong interrogation techniques. this cia turn to contract psychologist who had no experience with al qaeda who had no experience with interrogations and had no experience in the middle east jim and i went into a cubicle said downard a he said out of the typewriter and together we wrote out the list as techniques
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that we thought. had worked well in the search cool well i had already been told that the geneva conventions didn't apply to the capture of detainees did not did not apply to the couch of detainees by the authorities at the cia and so i don't think i thought about geneva conventions. made became what i was often referred to as a modern day equivalent of snake oil salesman. these 2 psychologists were awarded a $183000000.00 contract to run a program of torture. c n n a psychosis it's used to cameron's experiments on sensory deprivation and i haven't along with the code will see a program to create a horrific mix of torture techniques. old social change has almost entirely taken place in consequence something else. it does not speak of control.
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we need to protect society from those that can think of one small thing to kill us the stroll for tech to others through these people. the american psychological association is who. world's largest organization of psychologists and probably has the most influence over the community of psychologists around the world. secretly the a.p.a. psychologists but king in the tour to president to override that ethical code. if the minute change in cia be quiet it. program of abusive
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interrogations the program of torture at the cia was designed by psychologists and one tunnel was designed by a psychologist and a psychiatrist after they were trained in the techniques and in the program of the cia abuse. and that's when i could basically stand you know. and so suddenly i went criminal just being the psychologist in my office . to becoming the face of opposition to the a.p.'s position. the war is a strategic business our planning and our execution needs to be really well thought out. and it has consequences for years. i was in conversations with the
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department defense and with the white house. and i learned that we had psychiatry's to and psychologists who were advising the interrogation teams. then i'd learned that they were not just devising that they were involved. by i was stunned. it's taken all this time for me to build the picture of what's been involved here and the secrecy that was behind this torture program. it's been decades since the fall of spain's fascist regime but old wounds still
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haven't healed. the. mikko feet of market economy suppose you mean in the us at the source me note of that i mentioned the same question which we know. of newborn babies were torn from their mothers and given away and forced adoption i don't only want to use the other . but of my own role as a fellow mentor to this day mothers still search for grown children while adults look in hope for their parents. but the demick no certainly no border to nationalities. has emerged we caught up with the we don't look back seeing the whole world needs
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to. come in a crisis with this system things. we can do better we should be better. everyone is contributing way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created with the response has been masked so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. during the vietnam war u.s. forces also bombed neighboring laos there was a secret war. and for years the american people did not know. how much. mouth carry back to country per capita all human history millions of unexploded
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bombs still in danger lives in this small agricultural country jordyn wieber thing when and how it's happening. even today kids in laos fall victim to bombs dropped decades ago is the us making amends for that tragedy in laos what help do the people need in that little land of mines. in the punishment wing known as india block mamadou was isolated from only i think detainee. recorded the feeds because it's a video call. i was there was. i mean there was a level no food nothing total isolation. the psychological and physical toll chip and i was been attempted to tell you for 7
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they go to. the medical. field because of my activism that i was glad to do in killing it somewhere to do harm to them as it over them and. this it be that who confessed to little crime or we're going to put you in the doorstep of iran and i said. go for it and that it was i was really stupid the hero bag the. american said the logic says that without too they wouldn't meet $911.00. suddenly mamadou was cloths the most prisoners in guantanamo and. the role of psychologist in this torture program astounds me i saw that we're heading down
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a road that i knew was going to be disastrous. in 2002 mach put his neck on the line and began to see periods. that the cia as using. i felt like there was a novel which you can see these boulders coming down and you could wave a wand you try to stop it i could not stop what was happening. to the bloodthirst to torture people was just too. green for any one person stop. your interpretation rules of engagement go far beyond should need a convention stress positions sleep management dietary manipulation all of these things go far beyond a standard which says there will be no physical or mental torture nor any other form of course that's the geneva convention these rules of engagement for interrogation issued by your department are inconsistent with those my recollection is that any instructions that have been issued or anything that's been authorized
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by the department was checked by the lawyers in your shop in the department in the office of the secretary of defense and deemed to be consistent with it you know absolutely and you see u.s. secretary of defense donald rumsfeld was convinced that mohammed he recruited 3 of the $911.00 hijackers he personally authorized a 90 day special projects status from hamas with her endless consequence and 7 the order to abuse prisoners was only going to build up to that home wolf water they need justification and so what they did was they sent a colonel. to guantanamo to look and try to justify what was going on. and he said quote tunnel bay is america's battle land. and the moment i heard that it evoked memories of norman perk it evoked memories of what the not nazis were doing experiments. to say they started
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with the sleep deprivation regime. and then a massive guy broad disease. it was very dogged except for most of all blights. and then he started playing these music and the bodies in the floor all day long. you know. i cannot explain to you one someone is but doing. the floor and. 2 women. and force them onto. a no war has a moral imperative. america after $911.00 was in shock. and
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i think we have been deeply frightened and i think that fear how was it exploited certainly in the years after that and has continued to be exploited. when it was done is you more nato d.t.s. than any other person i've you know i've met a number of them you know so many probably more than anyone else on earth can you tell me about them. i can't specifically talk about what i have. my meetings with them or what i've learned about these men. i've met colleagues shaikh mohammad. ali bin a tosh. ramzi bin al s'shibh amar al believe she. and. these band were subjected to all these tactics and there is
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absolutely no evidence. absolutely not a shred of evidence that they have these. tactics used on these men really gave us any intelligence that was important or useful to our country. iraq morphed into what we call isis today. i saw the same. it's just a manifestation of torture. these are a whole bunch of week later and we're living with those results today. you said that you bases. this is absolutely we're crimes we knew there.
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this new substitute. is here to rectify 10 years of deceitful and secret collusion to impede the will of the membership. interim stephen fry's one of the testers with the a.p.a. is coming. here today. to reset our moral compass. he had been trying for 10 years to prevent psychologist from being part of national security interest asians. that it's. not going to be palatable and we changed and. after being held for $3000000.00 is muslim was released without charge.
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in the fight to get on a plane. what would have happened would i'd end up in guantanamo with these with these painful with this painful period every have happened would i be the person i have today i caught on to those questions but i do often say to myself why didn't i just get on a plane and go back. to do these confessions were found to be the result of tort. he was released without charge after 14 years in kuantan a man. i was no match for them they destroyed me they would they have broken and there is nothing i could say you know to save my face of to say all i want no i did not because those people out of professional dr who studied just for this purpose to destroy human spirit and make it dependent began and make them
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confess to what ever they wanted them to confess to. in august 2017 the 2 psychologists who created the cia's torture program were about to be put on trial we were soldiers doing what we were instructed to do we knew it was lawful we knew it was legal we knew it had been vetted in approved do you think it's possible as a psychologist that an individual who was subjected to them suffered a long term physical or psychological. do you think it's possible that our sleep deprivation taken to the extreme could induce severe mental pain or suffering action. the cia settled out of cool for an undisclosed amount no liability was submitted. world whole of
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government will intensify the problem of the growing of the common. what we must do is to see. its new go friendly in all unflinchingly out of those. a world in which we must at last find the response ability for ourselves. to ensure that in the fight it gets. he says and. we continue to have all the necessary power to detain terrorists wherever we chase them down where ever we find them. and in many cases for them it will now be one tatt imo. thank. the named on a construction program has been announced at guantanamo bay which could see it triple inclination. what makes this issue important
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when tunnel has become the calling cry tour here is some sign of american power that allows people to think that america will be great again. the united states right now is. a terrorist attack away from instituting torture. since the 950 s. we know these techniques have been yeast in afghanistan. australian. british guyland british coming canada. great britain. iran iraq israel if you ain't in iraq you know the 9 pakistan the philippines poland rumania. turkey
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we're more politicized than ever we're more polarized than ever the 21st century when speed is measured in megabytes per 2nd. seeds in him electronic mail electronic money electronic media infinite possibilities for exchanging information. lost freedom of speech and social media bends censorship and double standards who should judge what can be said online. the internet audience now totals almost 4500000000 more most all of them are active social network users but one wrong move from their pages deleted digital and i don't exist anymore. not who runs the show on the web how can anyone stand up to the tech giants if even heads of state face the threat of being banned is
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there any limits to hold that virtual. but i was reasonable. wrong. just don't. i mean you get to shape out these days become educated and in the game equals betrayal. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy from day shouldn't let it be an arms race in the spear in dramatic development only really
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i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time to sit down and talk. in the day's headlines are media's prime minister raises the stakes sending an order to dismiss the country's top general back to the president after he rejected it setting the stage for a constitutional showdown that is crowds in the capital continue to demand the pm quits. and in some of the top stories of the week astra zeneca has covered job ally on use in europe as people refused vaccination for efficacy concerns at the same time the world health organization points to drastic shortages and poorer nations. and you can doctors come out against plans to make coronavirus
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