thank. you for your good. time action or chance here watching the whole lockdown additional going underground on u.k. budget day as britain's arms companies continue to benefit from the saudi war on geostrategic yemen that began 6 years ago this month the government of bars johnson was u.k. foreign secretary backed weapon sales even after atrocities against civilians is

now said it wants to slash aid to one of the poorest countries in the world well joining me now from boston is someone born in the middle east and former british colony the youngest nobel peace prize winner of the time in history to our core common alcohol thank you so much for coming on the show well you know even before i get to yemen a lot of talk in the mainstream media so-called about the cia report on the killing of your friend to the washington post journalist why should we trust the cia when it says that mohamed bin selman was a mastermind of the horrific bone saw killing of your friend did you see a very porous is one of the early part of that was published by the by. turkey by your and by. his friends it's one of their most important reports talking about the death and dismembering. but it

is absolutely it is a very important report published by c a f which was. appeared you know since you know the ruling of trying the administration they don't want they didn't want to publish this report and that is a good progress in any good mr ation when they publish this silly boy that saying that mohammed we said man. it is the one who ordered. the killing. in their invest in stem board the crown prince of course denies the allegation who in the cia to talk about assassination when they have a history of assassination attempts and this information. has brought wars in the global south fundamental yet firmly what is important and the cia's report is what is after the report ok now after the report to 100 is

a man held accountable well you must make a british against mohamed we said man as they mentioned it in their. intelligent. report that he is the one who morning who who ordered the milder of one of the resent resident of the us and one of the journalists who works in a most prominent newspaper in the u.s. so for me this is the most important you know what after the report so here we are waiting from i did administration to do something to stop this killing of saudi arabia against. the soviet and of of saudi and that is that is not just the saudi didn't kill just because they have a big history of course. of killing and silencing you know the people that is not

against there are serious so now we are waiting from biden administration to do what they should do as an admonition administration that promised that they will support him rights and they will support democracy and they will support truth so the question is what is after the report they said they will sanction numbers of the people who exercised the murder rate who was behind that who who play. and for that hour or executed the murder rate but that the question what about the boss who are who ordered it until now by the administration didn't make it you know any fort to help 100 missile man accountable well i'm sure the saudi arabian embassy we invite the ambassador to london on the show would say there's no way that the cia can lecture anyone on assassination and in a way as you just said the biden administration has said your call they say we do

not in any way put sanctions on leaders of countries that's the position of the bible administration and they will put science in it is this is the big mistakes that international community committed that the rule of the international community the logo the rule the rule of global leaders. the some purpose is to. support peace around the world is to support freedom and democracy is to stop dictators from killing their people from attacking human rights from attacking and stability and from a you know. committing you know crimes in their in their in their. countries all outside their countries so i'll go in there when the when the u.s. or any other country or any other country is said that they can't try all they can

sanction. the leaders of the world the leaders of the countries and that is a big big mistake and this is one of the mistakes also that the security council until now didn't do that it's it's ruled. you know to do held people to be the the the the the body that protects people from tyranny is from after the city is and yet we see now how about sharon i said for example is. away from accountable and how this you know. how this lead that he. committed. crimes in syria and the. syria and the war against syria and the terrorism in syria and the president syria is begin more and more and was so him and said man is one of those big $8.00 in the region who is in or protected by the unfortunately

some of the superpower countries and they don't want to held him accountable and that is a big mistake. so obviously president assad would deny his united on this program so you're a nobel peace prize winner who backs the cia over the views of democratically elected so you are backing the cia report over the democratically elected joe biden who says i'm actually well you know why do you want me to speak about c i . reports or intelligence or by the i'm talking about a journalist who is who kill who bring killed and dismembered in his consulate in istanbul and this is. a man and if anyone in the world is committed or is part of this crime should held accountable i'm talking

about the prince. you know his killing in my country was destroying my country with us and with iran at the same time so don't make me on that in the side that i have you know with the you know within all of her in a resume no powers i am with my country i am with my people i am with people around the world who defend who certifies who struggle who dream for freedom democracy and justice this is my decision my guess is it intended that the limits are around the world and then institutions to be with the people so any anybody else. around the world in any form nobody any good government any congress in any scenario in the c.i.s. any entity just powers in the media as any n.g.o.s any people will support my clothes for free and then democracy and justice and equality we will be in the same

mind that they will be with us and we should be with as they should be with with people not with the with the haters the boris johnson governments or. as you shouldn't sanction mama been solomon it is within gage mint with the saudi government that you promote those values and of course as you know britain is exporting record amounts of arms to saudi arabia and actually cutting aid it said this week what do you think of that british government line that we must in gauge with the saudi leadership rather than sanctioning them. look britain us in canada france any other even russia because i'm talking about the free countries you know that they are the countries that they claim that they support human rights and democracy i blame them more than that countries that they

say doesn't support the they don't claim that they support democracy and freedom like russia or signer because i think people are suffering in their countries also you know with democracy so i hope that you will bubblicious know this. and what i'm saying now but let me to say about that return your scale and any other countries you know that support they need around the world with any kind of supporting. the it is you know directly or indirectly they are participating with this dictator in his i believe in missile against his way people or against any people. and in the world and india they are supporting mohammad beside him and mohammad minutes and in killing the yemenis when they sell a cell with this to them so it's very important for this country

as countries that claim they support democracy that they support human rights and they have a value for freedom dignity and cetera et cetera that they should fulfill their commitments and also this should show them that he was and when they are ally will be with big pay does that mean they are so far from their values and that it means also that they are. part of. their the crime of this dictator and that is exactly what israel is how many women when they support mohammed. so men and women. with the selling weapons to them of course were not supposed ties with the u.s. as well they deny any allegations of war crimes as well britain says it has a robust weapon thank you to the council. permanent experts of the of the u.n.

. published a lot of reports saying that saudi emirates and who seemingly shia all of them they are. committed war crimes in yemen so those who committed war crimes in yemen should be held accountable because of that we are calling that the. the word crimes in yemen should be in the international criminal court and mohamed is a man how many bizarre it and i did a medical policy and leaders of iran should all of them you know held accountable because you know they killed hundreds thousands of families directly and indirectly we've heard we heard the evidence from n.g.o.s on this program but the royal air force is training the pilots that drop the saudi bombs many of them also made here in britain and you saying that saudi bombs are not accurate after the pilots are

being trained with the royal air force. what oh no that's my country is now destroyed by saudi by emirates by also iran my country now is facing and i believe brooks he was by those 3 countries that doesn't want yemen to be a democratic country that doesn't want yemen to when it's a great great peaceful revolution in its great peaceful dreams for democracy and freedom so we are facing this glue where waged by those 3 countries and we don't say that they know there is any benefit from that a bombs all of that air forces all know that that that i think yemen posy militia is the hands of iran saudi and emits acting dynasty bear them for forces

and they are their militias the best they can related in yemen in the south and in our own do not yemen. what more can i want world go and they committed war crimes in yemen and hiroshima rather. than tests training or not training there is war in yemen this war should stop now and when we say that should what this was should stop now it is not just talking about stopping the bombs stopping you know. from south. america to yemen or from hoess to saudi no it's more than that this is one of the one step but it's more than that it's astounding the blue cade in yemen it's stopping the hidden money and guardianship practiced by saudi and immigrants a.t.m. and it's a low in our this isn't it resident to return to yemen to go to practice is that

so it as a briton in iran because it is now under the height kind of hijacking of saudi he is under a kind of. house terrorists inside the they prevented him from returning him and. they prevented it and his government i mean he says he says he's under the protection of the saudis i'll study them more from the nobel peace laureate after this short break. we'll look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. must obey the orders given to human beings except when such orders to conflict with the 1st law. we should be very careful about artificial intelligence and the point is made. very clear with artificial intelligence where something.

must protect its own existence is a true. welcome back i'm still with the nobel peace laureate and go founder of women journalists without change how i call you mention the blockade what proof do you have that iran is backing the who thiis what how can any missiles or any iranian missiles get to lucy's. how it is you know i can't i can't explain to you how they you know smuggling the. world through walls all missiles or 9 mind cetera et cetera but what is known very that iran

is supporting and backing militia. militia from the beginning yes they're big they're supporting to the militia become more and more after the war of saudi arabia saudi give iran move on you know justification to to marry in yemen to interpose will not but there is no doubt it's very clear and even a iranian people iranian authority they don't hide their their supporters who think they didn't even think they you know send their message there to somehow and he's now inside iran you know and they they are going as healthy militia also ready while it is it is you know i militia who hijacked the power by by by this whole killed britain. those are hundreds thousands of yemenis

who also who unfortunately the saudi the stupid patient took you by your men and also to or to to practice it is your job was them one of them saudi emirates iran with its hand michel for the our you know world price the criminals in yemen well i got to say it's the cia saying that iran is sending weapons to the right is iran denies its military helping the and i actually said since you mentioned that coronavirus been supporting causes with the many tools with me is one of them is that the missiles minutes old and the one that says it's stupidness someone said no you don't doesn't. supporter of these and they didn't hijack the. they are they they are you know they're always there talking about horses as as they rely on the no. horse there and they supposed them and yeah

so when we. are there. when we talk about saudi arabia and in various crimes in yemen that doesn't mean that. innocent. oh iran is away from this you know. crimes in yemen. they don't you trouble there is no long term. in marriage thousands you know media is even is only iran now in the displays they are in in the in matted they attacking get married and also they are also been backed by iran so 6 i think if you took if you want to speak about a longer story about yemen even saudi i'm in and in minutes supported and still support how the c's direct and in direct way and this is this will need another you

know. interview you know to dismiss them out how what is there in direct and direct support from saudi and emits to seize and that is that is something you can't imagine but they do they want they want to destroy yemen they want this free countries want to destroy you. they will all night and all night outside. yemen to be strong what do you make of the saudi government saying. it's going to help vaccinate the poor children of yemen with coronavirus vaccine do you think that western public relations companies are working on the saudi behalf to make propaganda or about the situation in yemen because as i say in fact saudi arabia there's now a application by the government in exile you mention to vaccinate 50 percent of yemen thanks to the thanks to the charity of the saudi government yemen doesn't

have this yemen doesn't need this fake aids came from saudi emir it's this fake aids doesn't do anything well we weren't from saudi and immolate is the compensation they should help they should give the yemenis. millions and billions and billions. really ns the cost of the war. then they have to give us they could have been stationed all of the world i believe were the do they wage. in yemen so we don't care about their take aids does nothing and it does not exist from the beginning i think it is true we don't want it we want them to leave the yemen now the this is the solution for the m.l. now is. is that to stop the hedge many. and guardianship of

saudi and interests to stop their war to start and who of course the militia in yemen. is to return the political process. to its missile from the point it to start which is not wanting the constitution in 2 different them and starting the election. supporting militia even if saudi and emirates live yemen and they said that they stop war why aren't they supporting the militias in yemen that you want to divide yemen because there isn't any yemenis to do you haven't this do you happen to pieces is there any i mean yemen to be i'll tell you. this is our this is over the region they deny that i am well in yemen and how to create sustainable peace in yemen it's come up as an issue on budget day here in

britain because britain says that it wants to cut its for medicine and food from 240000000 to 81000000 pounds i mean i'm talking to you from a country where 20 percent of the country is in poverty that's britain that's millions of children under the poverty line there are food banks here why should britain and its taxpayers begin very important for any country. in the world especially those wealthy countries and strong countries and big countries to support people around the world to support the poor people to support countries and their conflict and this is one of their duties and responsibilities it's very important and i know that britain people they will be so glad so happy that one of the you know their taxes will go to the spool people and people who suffered from you know conflict and world wars so this is in general this is in general but in particular in yemen it's very important from britain. government to

start selling weapons to saudi if they weren't to hell b m and that is that is that is that is the priority number one it's a patient in the us it's very important for them to make a very strong message to. man. and in a saudi to stop their head to any and guardianship in yemen not to arlo them to make a move or pinching money and moon guardianship it's very important to all to lead to legal legal sustainable peace not a fake peace not the fake. truth it's very important to them that that the militia of unhealthy. stumble you know using violence and you know it's really important to hear a word. i think as a result but i think

a man's aggressively but it is very important for the yemeni people that is now suffered from hunger from family and thanks to britain to any other countries that will help yemen but yemen more need more than that so when they give them money for the land and for and from other and they give their money as weapons kill more of them you know people that they won't be able to feed. so women should be selling witness to the saudi and the emir should they should stop now. joe biden who i think you did favor against trump has made it clear that defensive weapons can continue to be sold to saudi arabia since saudi arabia claims that all its operations in yemen are defensive is there really any sanction on us weapon sales that are used on your country for me and even if there is no war in yemen i am against any kind of selling weapons to the dictator what do you think joe by what

do you think it will email is that it's it's it's it's certainly it is a big mistake. i mean committed by international powers by the international community by the western governments it's out there who claim that they support freedom and democracy so it's our i will not go into the experience to the details is it defensive or not defensive no do you support the dictator or not the dictator who killed your mouse. then he didn't know who or what. would end the human rights defenders in the prison how did hundreds of political prisoners inside the world made that point 0 is the fed meeting in yemen who killed hundreds dozens of yemenis people dynasty and indo duty how he would just

just finally just finally your own you're on the facebook oversight board we had alan rusbridger the former guardian editor and publisher of julian assange his wiki leaks on the show he said he hadn't talked that much with the board about the banning of trump from facebook yet what's it like being on the facebook oversight board and how does it connect up with women journalists without chains which you co-founded. in the term case 1st book in the oversight of this book we will announce our decision during enormous so. wait for our decision i will not be able to say our this is it because it's under review and under discussion and i mean what is it like being on. board that basically bans or allows free speech is it a strange experience you're on on the board of women journalists without chains which is about journalism. we are in the oversight board to defend an expression of

rights to defend on the voice of people. to be with people. and their voice is i guess you know those who won't jewel you as this platform in an old way who make misinformation who. read a hatred race is in there is no such right said so i am with my colleagues with my people with my friends in the oversight board we are there to protect the expression rights common thank you that's over the show will be back on saturday for the anniversary of the eve of britain's parliament hearing of a government of the world's worst humanitarian crisis with 24000000 depending on aid for food and medicine until then join the underground by following up on social

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