right. now here she is. see the court is in there. would you bring that phone cord in somebody up though not only did cream bring that in but he brought it in and dropped the other another

portion of it in the purse that's yes that's absurd i bet what happens here is she says he knocks her out on the kitchen floor and they're like and it doesn't work doesn't work renee not good enough didn't didn't he do it in the living room look at this photo look i want to see her oh yeah. the truth doesn't fit with renee's no concise no i want to see a real place and. i think you heard that some wishful thinking mike i don't think there is a real police report i mean. i just don't. maybe they sort of knew there were days confession was not so good or not true and so they didn't really want karim because they didn't really believe that he was there . that or that it happened like that and so if they get him in there and then they could end up with nobody.

when taking on a case like rene's the danger is always the case evidence or other crime scene evidence has not been preserved. if there's no crime scene evidence or case evidence. then there's nothing to d.n.a. test and if there's no d.n.a. to test it's extremely hard to prove that your client is innocent. that's from the. rain. in romney's case it was a very bloody crime scene the murder weapon was never found but there was a purse that had a bloody fingerprint in it and there was a drawer in the bedroom with a bloody fingerprint on it they d.n.a. tested some things but not those and the only d.n.a. found at the crime scene was the victim's. phone and. you know.

the i think out of 41 pieces of evidence they tested 7. for d.n.a. and so you know they're in trouble right at trial because you can't get convicted on your own confession alone so they go and they try to round up jailhouse snitches but only one worked. so it was her confession and a jailhouse snitch which is so common in false confession cases and you have the confession and then the extra evidence because there's no physical evidence the corroboration to the confession is snitch. i know by now and then i don't have nobody to go oh. oh.

ok don't. try. do you mind if i sit down. this is all. good that's ok you know wrecked on your. own to the street before you for the bottle feel fine no we're trying we're trying to. do you remember interacting with any of the police officers back then this is. a student was name was very it is some of. my impression looking back at it thank you all here she's guilty while she was building a go make sure you know who sometimes it was a bloody crime so now we know i was last year's eve d.n.a. so these are all somebody else maybe you know how. it was one of the things that's one of the things that we hope to be able to do is retest the d.n.a. there's knowledge she has no chance some cases we get and we look at them and we

even if we believe the person citizen we can say well i mean there's just for a variety of reasons nothing we can do there's something we can do here but not a lot of people get exonerated. deals. is this work out. i just want to talk to you because i know how being we're trying to get her out can we come by. just talk to me. so much. we need to ask. the most important thing i mean to so how.

what her actions at the police. i mean i was right with andrea. you know. i mean a he didn't have a conversation. in south jersey promise you anything like where you can. read it when you write and when you know and so you actually did get out thank you we really appreciate it. ok so that's good that's helpful.

let's talk about lorenzo montoya. a. last chance of 2000. time but why was right now is when you go to. follow him in the interview there are these 4 men were. in 1st being interviewed is.

the wrens of montoya was arrested in the year 2. and accused of a murder of a young schoolteacher in denver. he's 14 years old lorenzo when this happened and he is tiny like maybe 110 pounds. between me and lorenzo is a mountain they tell him there's these videotapes that show him abusing children which there aren't in lorenzo's they actually go as far as to have him take his shoes off and they do this whole charade where this very angry cop comes back in with the shoe and says well i'm a shoe print expert and your shoe matches the print at the crime scene was untrue. you're going to be sent away. and there is you. are

not rest until. then it's going to have. a window. where you there are their goals for the. jail until you're a very very well for you they are your friends. a lot of. everything you know if you were there. that's interesting. you can say we had your blood we had your saliva. test. right.

micheel. in the united states police are permitted to lie. and say right out no we haven't seen. a lot of fast. that is a shocking discovery to most people most western countries don't permit the us supreme court permits so consequently you have 2 detectives making it seem as if we have independent evidence they something very specific about what that evidence is telling us that you are involved in something they've already started that strafing process and the mother already is believing.

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theme that enables lorenzo to admit some degree of involvement while minimizing his own role it's part of a package of techniques that in which you communicate to is suspect that i think you're a good person i understand what you've been through i sympathize with what you've been through often you hear normalising statements like you know what if i were in your situation i would have done the same thing and oh by the way i don't think you intended to do this i think it was an accident or maybe your friends put you up to it or maybe you were provoked me to feel that it was the red zone. i don't do that i haven't done it. i did want to jack the car into one that did. the communication moves in one direction it is designed to leave the person the suspect think the police don't think this is such a big deal. and therefore be treated with leniency ok so one of my choices either i can be the accomplice who refuses to speak or i can admit to what they want me to

admit to given all of the minimisation that they've given me and enjoy the benefit of that there are going to go. you. know how do you press they're going to do that big look at how much they have communicated already he now knows so much about this crime that whether he was there or had anything to do with it or not he now knows enough about it to give you a description. so why are you here. we're. asleep. through. the wrestler you see things in the computer and. nature jr who kicks you in the head of course the building a story for him to tell. or is it you know a great ridge goes to 0 part of the dreaded shoes. brazel position. your job is just right he's now being set up

so that when he's ready to give a statement he knows exactly what that statement that. he knows kicked in the head shoe dragging her through the blood. he's got a goal so later a judge and the jury is going to watch the final confession and they're going to be so impressed and unable to look past that because they keep on asking themselves what happened in all those things if he was in there. staring me down oh. you made that up. i just want your prior 5 minutes you wake up you know. you're not going home tonight i can guarantee that. and they do not question it you'll be home for her which will be boys you know. mom talk now or say goodbye to your mom it's

a pretty clear and your cousin and your sister is your goal and your life. is you ready. to. what can and in this one person doing. solve the situation and he said i guess you could hold out rank for everyone you just fall down. doesn't everybody have a breaking point so why must. he was in prison for 14 years so he got out at 28 he was in solitary confinement for 4 years because when he goes into a grown up prison he's 14 and he can't be in with the general population so he goes to solitary confinement for 4 years for $14.00 to $18.00 lorenzo was exonerated and

we have a similar rights to pending for him and the. opposition are you know they're they're moving to have the case dismissed based on qualified immunity for them. and if you're being interrogated you're not being interrogated because they're just looking for information you're being interrogated because they want you to confess . so today we have a 1st on wrongful conviction which is that we have a retired n.y.p.d. homicide detective among other things current private investigator i'm pleased to introduce you j. sol peter welcome thank you very much and thank you for having me so. are we going to get this fixed a we believe the remedy seems like a long shot to me it's going to take forever well the beginning is basically that all you know all interrogations are video and audiotapes. and i think that would

stop at least 75 percent of these fools confessions i don't know how you're going to get away with it i'm a bit of criminal justice system as a store looking at prosecutors believe me you would false confessions faster with making war is that make prosecutor culpable i mean that's the frustration with the civil rights work is that the prosecutors are always absolutely immune it doesn't matter what they did they could have gotten right here and punched the kid in the face and they would we cannot get any liability. and of course the. police are allowed to use trickery and i know every defense attorney in the world is against that. so we talked about how out of these 4 cases korean mounts and lorenzo have all been exonerated by rene you know her case remains active and she's been in prison now for 20 years her son grew up without a mom she you know he has she's grandkids now that she's never met other than on

a phone through glass. she said to heart attacks while she's been in prison and it's probably not getting the right medical treatment for that you know we're just hoping that you know time could be on our side and we can get her out sooner rather than later but i mean she is a. a life that's. wasted. good morning how are you. how is your heart. out.

i know. you don't apply yourself together it's ok i understand. and i know that it's taking a lot of time but. we don't want to mess it up renee. going to get one shot at this . so just hang in there. i promise you there will be and i hope it's a good one but there won't be any and. develop

. never missing the season is nigger marries a new. poster new system is missing the biggest turns into where not there is a. city where you. do really you've. got plenty. to. just see in any way blame himself for i think so control ending and confessing they all knew that but my own observations from talking to wrongfully convicted people is those who were wrongfully convicted by confession are not doing as well the stigma they attach to themselves they feel weak they all stupid they don't

understand what happened how to done that to themselves and even when the convictions overturned if the reason they were convicted of the confession as opposed to something else the stigma that attached to them the state even after they were exonerated right people are not quite 100 percent sure right yet the confession is so powerful that even ever it's supposed to evaporate gusta. so corey today is he's living well right he got a huge settlement but it doesn't take away those demons in his head you know he's a he was in from 16 to almost 30 so what are you now when you come out he's never going to have the mental peace and rest that you know you and i can probably accomplish sometimes but if he has lost his whole family.

there's no relationship with that really. and that's something that the then my opinion the city and the prosecutors took away from him right that money can't replace. when you come back to size you don't you don't know when to do it and cherry. don't know what to do or. your brain. will be the morning. star all. stars to join the long journey maybe. if you're going to stand. there you know from wonder. it really is. a problem that you know is systemic

right it's a problem that victimizes a lot of people right you have. the person who falls in compresses whose life is ruined you have their family whose lives are ruined you have the victim of their still alive in the victim's family who think they're getting justice but they're not and then you have multiple other problems that come from this main one being. by definition when we walk up the wrong guy we stop looking for the right guy it's really. it's a it's a tremendous challenge. i think it's a cultural problem we need a whole societal education about just our criminal justice system is based on the premise that it's better for 10 guilty people to go free than one innocent person to go to prison right i mean that is a fundamental concept of the american justice system but i think that the lying is

one of the main things that over there somebody is well i just guess the courts don't get it. every story of a false confession is not just a story that gets at the question of why in god's name did an innocent person just a crime he or she didn't commit it's a 2nd story the 2nd story line is how come the prosecutor the judge the jury the appeals court all mr. here is now able to research actual cases laboratory studies field studies and 100 plus years of basics like culture tells you why the people about never to lie to people about reality you can change their perceptions and change their memories or you can change just about every aspect of the called function. of the british human rights moreover is pretty point.

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a judgment of possession against you and get addicted to anyone that's homeless is history like garbage people look at you like a monster or someone bad or you chose to be there most of the time it's not the case see how it is to be pull in the world's richest country. in an inconvenient truth that you just can't actually get that innovation in the us anymore because all the corporations that are in a position to innovate are culturing shareholders intel throwing the taxpayers and using financial leisure domain on wall street to line their pockets. this is crude oil. so they need to actually physically pump it out of the ground

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