need that outlet these men need that comfort these men need so that. people have been murdered up here people don't rape their massive drug issues up here you have a boom you have everything else that comes along with money. like why does someone do that right that's what everybody wants to know and they laugh or have achieved their quota of those playing well as those played well because i think most people would like to think i would like to think to myself i would never do that but did you ever say to yourself down why do i tell these life not why i tell these lies and i started a new rooted in religion that exists in my really did not exist as i would just are i just throw going to there probably exist among the worlds is just filler heard there are i says of the i the new form with the model of the wood with the model of

the mire there was a it was a rural boy just to go home or yes my way normal. i was were it was going to be true or it was world which were all. choices shop or were. recently into right.

now here she is. see the corners in there. would you bring that phone cord in the guy's somebody up no not only did cream bring that in but he brought it in and dropped the other another portion of it in the purse that's yes that's absurd i bet what happens here is she says he knocks her out on the kitchen floor and they're like and it doesn't work doesn't work renee not good enough didn't didn't he do it in the living room look at this photo look i want to see you oh yeah. the truth doesn't fit with renee's no concise no i want to see your real place and. i think you heard that

some wishful thinking mike i don't think there is a real police report i mean. i just don't. maybe they sort of knew there were days confession was not so good or not true and so they didn't really want kareem because they didn't really believe that he was there. that or that it happened like that and so if they get him in there and then they could end up with nobody. one taking on a case like rene's the danger is always the case evidence for other crimes you know evidence has not been preserved. if there's no crime scene evidence or case evidence. then there's nothing to d.n.a. test and if there's no d.n.a. to test it's extremely hard to prove that your client is innocent.

that's really. easy here right. in rene's case it was a very bloody crime scene the murder weapon was never found but there was a purse that. had a bloody fingerprint in it and there was a drawer in the bedroom with a bloody fingerprint on it the d.n.a. testing some things but not those and the only d.n.a. found at the crime scene was the victims. and i think out of 41 pieces of evidence they tested 7. for d.n.a. and so you know they're in trouble right at trial because you can't get convicted on your own confession alone so they go and they try to round up jailhouse snitches but only one worked.

so it was her confession and a jailhouse snitch which is so common in false confession cases and you have the confession and then the extra evidence because there's no physical evidence corroboration to the confession snitch. and no i. have no particular oh. oh. ok. do you mind if i said this. is all. good that's ok you know. i don't have a stream. for the bible. or try and. do you remember interacting with any of the police officers back then this is. a student

was name was very it is in some of. my impression looking back thank you all hear she's guilty well she's guilty and eagle make sure you know you can sometimes it was a bloody crime so now we know i was my d.n.a. so these are all. somebody yelled. out. it was one of the things that's one of the things that we hope to be able to do is retest the d.n.a. there's knowledge she has no chance some cases we get and we look at them and we even if we believe the person is innocent we can say well i mean there's just for a variety of reasons nothing we can do there's something we can do here but not a lot of people get exonerated. really owes you a 1000000 years lou you. know the.

hello. is this work out. i just want to talk to you because i know how being we're now trying to get her out can we come by one driver just talk to me i. think you so much. we need to ask the most important thing to so how she was to what her interactions with the police were. with young. with andrea you know in our lives we really and he didn't have a car with a. promise you anything like where you're going to get out to let me out. here when

you write i want to get out and so you actually did get out thank you we really appreciate it. ok so that's good that's helpful.

let's talk about lorenzo montoya. 3 years on welfare oh. time was right now is why you want to. be alone really didn't you know there were there were. dan burton being interviewed a. lot in stone. on. the ends of montoya was arrested in the year 2000 and accused of a murder of a young schoolteacher in denver. he's 14 years old lorenza when this happened and he is tiny like maybe 110 pounds very young no one and now you're older you're

right. the overlap between meltzer and lorenzo is a mountain they tell him there's these videotapes that show him abusing children which there aren't in lorenzo's they actually go as far as to have him take his shoes off and they do this whole charade where this very angry cop comes back in with the shoe and says well i'm a shoe print expert and your shoe. the print at the crime scene was untrue. you'd be sent away. to get up there as it is you can call the day you are not rest until we are it is going to happen we've got one. window g.-r. coming down. for you there so you the 3rd are there goes for the. jailer until you are there even if you have no idea where you dare your friends. with a lot of friends we've done it every day if you were there we're going to find out

now that's interesting. he didn't say we had your blood we had your saliva he said we have that to be tested basically right. there is a body. the moment. i'm. hot. political. issue we'll. in the united states police a permitted to lie about it. and say right out of order do we.

really think on a fast. that is a shocking discovery to most people most western countries don't permit it the u.s. supreme court permits it so consequently you have 2 detectives making it seem as if we have independent evidence they sometimes will get very specific about what that evidence is tell. you were involved in something they've already started stripping . and the mother already is believing. one of the worst mass shootings in america was it 2017 the tragedy exposed a little of the real life. women. control. reveal. really and now it's partly the. american public barely remembers that it happens. the power of money and. the

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still going to see both of you. dead already. is a little bit isn't it. is it. true that the brain is you that you are surely that even better to savor it. so you did you mean mistake so he just introduced the word mistake he's about to develop this theme that enables lorenzo to admit some degree of involvement while minimizing his own role is part of a package of techniques that in which you communicate to is suspect that i think you're a good person i understand what you've been through i sympathize with what you've been through often you hear normalizing statements like you know what if i were in your situation i would have done the same thing and all by the way i don't think you intended to do this i think it was an accident or maybe your friends put you up

to it or maybe you were provoked me to feel that one red zone. i don't think you'd ever go on. i did want to jack the car into one that did. the communication moves in one direction it is designed to leave the person the suspect and think that the police don't think this is such a big deal. and therefore be treated with leniency ok so one of my choices either i can be the accomplice who refuses to speak or i can admit to what they want me to admit to given all of the minimisation that they've given me and enjoy the benefit of them who are going to go. you. know how do you presume they're going to that big look at how much they have communicated already he now knows so much about this crime that whether he was there or had anything to do with it or not he now knows enough about it to give you a description. so why were you there. we're.

here at sleaze house through the narrow. things in the computer and here. nature jr who kicked you in the head of course the building a story for him to tell. or is it you know a great ridge those shoes wrote part of the dre shoes. brazel position. your job is just right he's now being set up so that when he's ready to give a statement he knows exactly what that's the back. gate he was kicked in the head shoe dragging her through the blood. he's got a ball so later a judge and the jury is going to watch the final confession and they're going to be so impressed and unable to look past that because they keep on asking themselves what happened you know those things if he was in there. staring me down oh.

you need to back up. i just stand here watch your prior 5 minutes you wake up you know. you're not going home tonight i can guarantee that. and they do not question it you'll be home for her which will be boys you know. you. talk now or say goodbye to your mom it's a pretty clear and your cousin and your sister is your goal and your life. is you ready. to.

do what kim and this person do. itself in this situation anything i guess you could hold out rank for everyone you just fall down. doesn't everybody have a breaking point so why must. he was in prison for 14 years so he got out at 28 he was in solitary confinement for 4 years because when he goes into a grown up prison he's 14 and he can't be in with the general population so he goes to solitary confinement for 4 years for $14.00 to $18.00 lorenzo was exonerated and we have a similar rights to pending for him and the. opposition are you know they're they're moving to have the case dismissed based on qualified immunity for that. and if you're being interrogated you're not being interrogated because they're just looking for information you're being interrogated because they want you to confess . so today we have

a 1st on wrongful conviction which is that we have a retired n.y.p.d. homicide detective among other things current private investigator i'm pleased to introduce you j. sol peter welcome thank you very much and thank you for having me so. how the hell are we going to get this fixed i believe the remedy seems like a long shot to me it's going to take forever well the beginning is basically that all you know all interrogations are video and audiotape. and i think that would stop at least 75 percent of his films confessions i don't know how you're going to get away with it i'm a bit of criminal justice system as a store looking at prosecutor is believe me you would false confessions faster with making noise that make prosecutor culpable i mean that's the frustration with the civil rights work is that the prosecutors are always absolutely immune it doesn't matter what they did they could have gotten right and punched the kid in the face

and they would we cannot get any liability. and of course. police are allowed to use trickery and i know every defense attorney in the world is against that. so we talked about how out of these 4 cases korean mounts and lorenzo have all been exonerated by rene you know her case remains active and she's been in prison now for 20 years her son grew up without a mom she you know he has his grandkids now that she's never met other than on a phone through glass. she said to heart attacks while she's been in prison and it's probably not getting the right medical treatment for that you know we're just hoping that you know time could be on our side and we can get her out sooner rather than later but i mean she is a. a life that's. wasted.

good morning how are you. ok. how is your heart. out. having a. half hour track. of your. very . heart. i know. have you done to play some together it's ok i understand some difficulty and i know that it's taking a lot of time but. we don't want to mess it up rene we only only going to get one shot at this. so just hang in there.

and promise you there will be an end and i hope it's a good one but there won't be an end. to military. service of the disease newsmen there mares and do. gooders and. those who knew the system is missing the biggest hoax turns into will not do this thing. so you. do believe you do. that got him close. to.

us he can anyway blame himself for i think so control ending and 1st thing they all do with it my own observations from talking to wrongfully convicted people is those who were wrongfully convicted by confession are not doing as well the stigma they attach to themselves they feel weak nat'l stupid they don't understand what happened how to dumb down to themselves and even when the convictions overturned if the reason they were convicted was a confession as opposed to something else the stigma attached to the state even after they were exonerated right people are not quite 100 percent sure i get the confession is so powerful that even therefore it's supposed to evaporate.

so corey today is he's living well right he got a huge settlement but it doesn't take away those demons in his head you know he's he was in from 16 to almost 30 so what are you now when you come out he's never going to have the mental peace and rest that you know you and i can probably accomplish sometimes but he has lost his whole family there's no relationship with them really. and that's something that then why p.b. in the city in the prosecutor's took away from him right that money can't replace. combatants is the size you don't you don't know when to do it in sherry. i don't know what adored her. so it is sort of your brain.

will be the morning. star over here. start to join the lingo whatever the journey may be. if i'm going to stand in the house you know from wonder. being free. it really is. a problem that you know is systemic right it's a problem that victimizes a lot of people you have the the person who falls in compresses whose life is ruined you have their family whose lives are ruined you have a victim they're still alive and the victim's family who think they're getting justice but they're not and then you have multiple other problems that come from

this main one being that by definition when we walk up the wrong guy we stop looking for the right guy it's really a. it's a it's a tremendous challenge. i think it's a cultural problem we need a whole societal education about this our criminal justice system is based on the premise that it's better for 10 guilty people to go free than one innocent person to go to prison right i mean that is a fundamental concept of the american justice system but i think that the lying is one of the main things that they are somebody as well i just guess the courts don't get it. every story will false confessions not just a story that gets at the question of why in god's name did an innocent person confess to a crime he or she didn't commit it's a 2nd story and 2nd story line is how come the prosecutor the judge the jury the appeals. in this case. there is now research actual cases laboratory

studies field studies and 100 plus years of basics like. when you lie to people about evidence you lied to people about reality you can change their perceptions can change their memories you can change just about every aspect of the culture. you're pretty sure 1st for years.

this is crude oil. to the heat actually physically pulled it out of the ground you would have well well. there's a lot of money with your oil and with that comes. a lot of a lot of people from all over the country. if you don't make a $100000.00 a year. as a minimum there's an issue. here in the. they work well 16 hours a day hard work well work it's not easy work and so they want to relieve their stress of how do they relieve their stress these men moved back out. that comfort many. people have been murdered up here people been raped they're massive drug issues up here you have a boom you have everything else that comes along with money.

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