in a world transformed. what will make you feel safe from. the isolation of full community. are you going the right way or are you being led to. direct. what is true what is faith. in a world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the depths. for a mate in the shallows. thank why does someone do that right that's what everybody wants to know and they live or have achieved their quota those playground as there was playground because i think most people would like to think i would like to think to myself i would never do that but did you ever say to yourself down why do i tell these life not why i tell

these lies a poem i started a new rooted in religion that exists in my really did not exist as i would just are i just throw going to there probably exist among the worlds is just filler heard there are i says of the i've new form with the model of the wood with the model of the mire there was a it was a real boy just to go home or yes my way normal. i was word it was going to be true or it was world which were all. choices shop or word or.

2 supreme right. now here she is. see the corners in there. would you bring that phone cord in somebody's up no not only did cream bring met him but he brought it in and dropped the other another portion of it in the purse that's yes that's absurd i bet what happens here is she

says he knocks her out on the kitchen floor and they're like it doesn't work doesn't work renee not good enough didn't didn't he do it in the living room look at this photo look i want this year oh yeah. the truth doesn't fit with renee's no concise no i want to see your real place and. i think you heard that some wishful thinking mike i don't think there is a real police report i mean. i just don't. maybe they sort of knew there were days confessions was not so good or not true and so they didn't really want career because they didn't really believe that he was there . that or that it happened like that and so if they get him in there and then they could end up with nobody. one taking on

a case like rene's the danger is always the case evidence or other crime scene evidence has not been preserved. if there's no crime scene evidence or case evidence. then there's nothing to d.n.a. test and if there's no d.n.a. to test it's extremely hard to prove that your client is innocent. that's really. the hearing. in rene's piece it was a very bloody crime scene the murder weapon was never found but there was a purse. had a bloody fingerprint in it and there was a drawer in the bedroom with a bloody fingerprint on it the d.n.a. tested some things but not those and the only d.n.a. found at the crime scene was the victims.

and i think out of 41 pieces of evidence they tested 7. for d.n.a. and so you know they're in trouble right at trial because you can't get convicted on your own confession alone so they go and they try to round up jailhouse snitches but only one worked. so it was her confession and a jailhouse snitch which is so common in false confession cases and you have the confession and then the extra evidence because there's no physical evidence corroboration to the confession is snitch. no by giving them no particular oh. oh. ok. do you mind if i said this.

is all. good that's ok you know. i don't have a stream for you for the bible. do you remember interacting with any of the police officers back then. as june was name was very it is in some of. my impression looking back thank you all hear she's guilty. she's guilty and eagle make sure you know you can sometimes it was a bloody crime so now we know i was my d.n.a. so he's so. somebody else. to be right how. it was one of the things that's one of the things that we hope to be able to do is retest the d.n.a. there's knowledge she has no chance some cases we get and we look at them and we even if we believe the person is innocent we can say well i mean there's just for

a variety of reasons nothing we can do there's something we can do here but not a lot of people get exonerated. real solutions really are useless you. know the. below. average and here. is this work out. i just want to talk to you because i know how being we're now trying to get her out can we come by what dr just talked to me i. think is so much. we need to ask close the most important thing to so how she was to what her interactions with the police were.

with young. with andrea you know in our lives we really and he didn't have a car with a. promise you anything like where you're going to get out and let me out. here when you write great i want to get out and so you actually did get out thank you we really appreciate it. ok so that's good that's helpful.

let's talk about lorenzo montoya. 3 years on 1 pm oh. time was right now is why you want to. elongate in immediately you know there were there were. dan burton being interviewed a. lot in stone. on the morning. when

rendered montoya was arrested in the year 2000 and accused of a murder of a young schoolteacher in denver. he's 14 years old friends when this happened and he is tiny like maybe 110 pounds very young a one year older. the overlap between meltzer and lorenzo is a mouser they tell him there's these videotapes that show him abusing children which there aren't in lorenzo's they actually go as far as to have him take his shoes off and they do this whole charade where this very angry cop comes back in with the shoe and says well i'm a shoe print expert and your shoes. mentions the print at the crime scene that was untrue. you know he spent all right. to get up there as it is you can pull the day you are not rest until one bar or it is going to happen we've got one. window g.-r.

coming down. for you there so you the 3rd are there knows where the. jail or until you are there even if you have no idea where you bury your friends. or as with a lot of friends we've done it every day if you were there we're going to find out now that's interesting. he didn't say we had your blood we had your saliva he said we have that to be tested basically right. there is a body. in the moment a. hot . political. issue we'll.

in the united states police a permitted to lie about it. and say right out of that we have a. lot of fast. that is a shocking discovery to most people most western countries don't permit it the u.s. supreme court permits it so consequently you have 2 detectives making it seem as if we have independent evidence they sometimes will get very specific about what that evidence is tell. yes the you are involved in something they've already started that same thing process and the mother already is believing.

the demick knows you know blood is just blind to nationalities. has emerged with the facts in the whole world needs to be ready before. judging. comedy crisis with mr intensity. we can do better we should. everyone is contributing each other own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created with the response has been so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. with. some control for a middle class. most of them are very hard working people who want to get ahead

that is either have some some health issues or have some of it out of trick about luck the whole time joel moon told me his pay for a place to live and missing just a month's rent can get she will victim to gunpoint if anything bad happens to any thing that just throws your budget off slightly. you better catch up real quick or you're going to have a judgment of possession against you and get addicted anyone that's homeless is history like garbage people look at you like a monster or someone bad or you chose to be there most of the time it's not the case see how it is to be pull in the world's richest country. silversea both of you. read it. as a little bit isn't it. is it. true that the brain is you that you need to show me that even better to savor it. so you did

you mean mistake so he just introduced the word mistake he's about to develop this theme that enables lorenzo to admit some degree of involvement while minimizing his own role it's part of a package of techniques that in which you communicate to is suspect that i think you're a good person i understand what you've been through i sympathize with what you've been through often you hear normalising statements like you know what if i were in your situation i would have done the same thing and all by the way i don't think you intended to do this i think it was an accident or maybe your friends put you up to it or maybe you were provoked there you can be killed on the red zone. i don't think you're going to have a gun. i didn't want to jack the car into one bag did. the communication moves in one direction it is designed to leave the person the suspect

and think that the police don't think this is such a big deal. and therefore be treated with leniency ok so one of my choices either i can be the accomplice who refuses to speak or i can admit to what they want me to admit to given all of the minimisation that they've given me a little and enjoy the benefit of that who are going to go. you. know how do you press they're going to do that big look at how much they have communicated already he now knows so much about this crime that whether he was there or had anything to do with it or not he now knows enough about it to give you a description. so why are you here. we're. here at sleaze house. so the rest of you see things in the computer and here. nature jr who kicks you in the head of course the building a story for him to tell. or is it you know

a great ridge goes to 0 part of the dreaded shoes. brazill position. your job is just right he's now being set up so that when he's ready to give a statement he knows exactly what that statement should convey. he was kicked in the head shoe dragging her through the blood. he's got it all so later a judge and the jury is going to watch the final confession and they're going to be so impressed and unable to look past that because they keep on asking themselves what happened in all those things if he was in there. staring me down oh. you made that up. i just want your prior 5 minutes you wake up you know. you're not going home tonight i can guarantee you that home. and they do not put you in juvenile hall or her which will be boys you know.

you. talk now or say goodbye to your mom it's pretty clear and your cousin and your sister and your girlfriend and your life. is you ready. to. ring the. royal. what kim and innocent person do. itself in this situation anything i guess you could hold out rank for everyone you just fall down. doesn't everybody have a breaking point so why must. he was in prison for 14 years so he got out at 28 he was in solitary confinement for 4 years

because when he goes into a grown up prison he's 14 and he can't be in with the general population so he goes to solitary confinement for 4 years for $14.00 to $18.00 lorenzo was exonerated and we have a civil rights too pending for him and the. opposition are you know they're they're moving to have the case dismissed based on qualified immunity for that. and if you're being interrogated you're not being interrogated because they're just looking for information you're being interrogated because they want you to confess . so today we have a 1st on wrongful conviction which is that we have a retired n.y.p.d. homicide detective among other things current private investigator i'm pleased to introduce you j. sol peter welcome thank you very much and thank you for having me so. are we going to get this fixed a we believe the remedy seems like

a long shot to me it's going to take forever well the beginning is basically that all you know all interrogations are video and audiotape. and i think that would stop at least 75 percent of his films confessions i don't know how you're going to get away with it i'm a bit of criminal justice system as a store looking at prosecutors believe me you would false confessions faster with making noise that make prosecutor culpable i mean that's the frustration with the civil rights work is that the prosecutors are always absolutely immune it doesn't matter what they did they could have gotten right and punched the kid in the face and they would we cannot get any liability. and of course with warning police are allowed to use trickery and i know every defense attorney in the world is against that. so we talked about how out of these 4 cases.

have been exonerated by renee you know her case remains active and she's been in prison now for 20 years and her son grew up without a mom she you know he has she's grand kids now that she's never met other than on a phone through glass. if she said to heart attacks while she's been in prison and it's probably not getting the right medical treatment for that you know we're just hoping that you know time could be on our side and we can get her out sooner rather than later but i mean she is a. a life that's. wasted. good morning how are you. how is your heart. out

a. i know. you don't want to play you some together it's ok i understand. and i know that it's taking a lot of time but. we don't want to mess it up renee. going to get one shot at this . so just hang in there. i promise you there will be and i hope it's a good one but there won't be any and. develop

. this in the season is nigger matters and it. seemed to her and. her new system is missing the biggest turns into when not there is a. secret you. do really you believe. that god led. to. her. just she in any way blame himself for i think so control ending and confessing they all knew

that but my own observations from talking to wrongfully convicted people is those who were wrongfully convicted by confession are not doing as well the stigma they attach to themselves they feel weak they all stupid they don't understand what happened how to done that to themselves and even when the convictions overturned if the reason they were convicted of the confession as opposed to something else the stigma that attached to them the state might even after they were exonerated right people are not quite 100 percent sure right if the confession is so powerful that even ever it's supposed to evaporate gusta. so corey today is he's living well right he got a huge settlement but it doesn't take away those demons in his head you know he's he was in from 16 to almost 30 so what are you now when you come out he's never

going to have the mental peace and rest that you know you and i can probably accomplish sometimes but if he has lost his whole family. there's no relationship with that really. and that's something that the then my opinion the city and the prosecutors took away from him right that money can't replace. when you come back to size you don't you don't know when to do it in cherry. you don't know what to do or. your brain. will be the morning. star over here. start to join the little you know whatever the journey may be. if you're going to stand in the hose you know from wonder.

it really is. a problem that you know is systemic. it's a problem that victimizes a lot of people right you have. the person who falls in compresses whose life is ruined who you have their family whose lives are ruined you have the victim when they're still alive and the victim's family who think they're getting justice but they're not and then you have multiple other problems that come from this main one being. that by definition when we walk up the wrong guy we stop looking for the right guy it's really a. it's a it's a tremendous challenge. i think it's a cultural problem we need a whole societal education about just our criminal justice system is based on the

premise that it's better for 10 guilty people to go free than one innocent person to go to prison right i mean that is a fundamental concept of the american justice system but i think that the lying is one of the main things that over there somebody is well i just guess the courts don't get it. every story of a false confession is not just a story that gets at the question of why in god's name the innocent person doesn't cry and he or she didn't commit it's the 2nd story in the 2nd story line is how come the prosecutor the judge the jury the appeals court all mr. there is now able to research actual cases laboratory studies field studies and 100 plus years of basics like culture tells you why the people about never to lie to people about reality you can change their perceptions and change their memories or you can change just about every aspect of their called a function. of the british human progress or has pretty.

joe biden famously said nothing will fundamentally change just appears to be the case when it comes to u.s. policy regarding the middle east because we ask the question what is the strategic value we'll give you the least benefits from all these forever wars.

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