ok we'll be watching the whole case next with 2 elements and washington the which i'll be back right hand with the next news in exactly 30 minutes. according to secretary of state china is the only country with the economic military. to seriously challenge the stable and international system all these issues and relationships that make the world to work if we want to is china really stretch washington's. greetings and salutation. you know while earlier this week we talked about the nuclear dangers of cold war era thinking brought into the 21st century today today

my friends let's talk about 21st century technological dangers being guided by cold war era ideology i'm talking of course about cyber warfare and much like the nuclear weapons of the 1940 s. and fifty's what happens when politicians pundits generals and intelligence agency types play around with weapons and tools whose but central power and devastation on the planet they have yet to really comprehend or in some cases even even have an idea of what to expect earlier this week in the sunday edition of the new york times' david sanger and the gang reported that in retaliation to the great solar winds hack and spying operation u.s. government officials are now saying that over the next few weeks the bided ministration is planning to quote a series of claim to conduct a series of quite invest in actions across russian networks that are intended to be evident to president vladimir putin and his intelligence services and military but

not to the wider world. because my friends i guess what nothing keeps or clandestine cyber attacks clandestine like telling the new york times about them. naturally the russian government was none too pleased about these secret attacks after reading about them in the new york times kremlin spokesperson to be announced the upcoming clandestine attacks denounced the upcoming clandestine attacks declaring this is alarming information this should this would be fear international cyber crime not to mention is wired senior writer andy greenberg accurately observes cyber policy wonks are quick to note that any rule that could justify civil war winds were tally ation is one that the u.s. also violates with its own cyber espionage and that as politically tempting as exacting punishment may be it would not only be hypocritical but also would it

muddle up any real attempt to control the kremlin's other far more reckless acts of hacking and here in lies the real problem you see it appears the world's biggest super powers are wielding the most powerful of 21st century weaponry not for self-defense but push or term revenge and political gain and never once asking that most important questions it's not about whether or not we can but whether or not we should and that my friends is why it's time to start watching. what's going on in a city. there so you see. this. state . is crazy see displays systemic deceptions so much. so we build this.

welcome we're going to watch in the entire world with and i'm a research and joining us today to discuss cyber warfare between the world superpowers and the dangers of using cold war era ideologies and methods with 21st century technology is the former national security agency intelligence official and awesome awesome whistleblower of the show william binney thank you so much for coming on the day mr binnie. good to be with you so i happened i have to ask you about the by the administration was suppose of response to the solar wind how conspired job can a clandestine operation against cyber warfare operation against russia still be considered best and if you're telling the new york times about it. no one fact even if you attempted to do it it wouldn't be it wouldn't be covert i mean it still know about it and become a very obvious to pretty quickly. and really this is finite that you know. finite thinking on the part of our leaders if we call it

leadership of our government it's really finite you know not really competent thinking of all of the countries in the world the western countries are the most automated they're the most. computerized and they're the most vulnerable and it goes with the if you remember the 7 release of data by wiki leaks and from cia and also the n.s.a. leak of you know 100 i'm actually hundreds of millions of lines of source code of attacks on servers. of wire walls operating systems networks and you know switches all of that around the world on everybody and they've never gone to fix all of that they just simply let it you know continue why because it gives them a window into what everybody's doing so far that they've allowed us all to be vulnerable now that means in an inside protect we are really vulnerable and we

aren't the only ones that know those weaknesses i mean they've been posted by wiki leaks and others so it's available to basically the world truly you know we are we are the most vulnerable. so this is really stupid. and bill over the years we've heard a lot about hats on government institutions and big corporations by warner. actors and governments you can just alluded to it in your answer but of all that think it's very far away from the average taxpaying citizen most people are now thinking about when they're going to get there and they are coping relief checks how could or how does cyber warfare between countries like china russia and the u.s. affect that the common person the everyday person why should they be invested and why should they care. because cyber war would be shutting down the power grid for example shutting down the the banking systems shutting down anything that allows the society to function its own a lot of it is virtually all done on the web now so all of that now is the is the

boehner bill and exposed again i would say why because we know all the weaknesses or know a lot of them and have never gone to fix them and so every time they ask ask for money for cybersecurity think swindle because that's what they're doing is swindle it's you know it's interesting bill i have to ask you know when you see these kind of major powers you hear about talked about all the time between us and as a musician mentioned china russia and you know you hear about it with the careers and things like that do these countries realize the danger truly realize the dangers of cyber warfare you know earlier i made the analogy to the development of the atomic bomb the cold war that followed with this cyber warfare are we making the same mistakes now with these kind of weapons that we did when we develop nuclear weapons of not really understanding the real impact these could have on society and just kind of using them willy nilly. yes actually we're losing we're

using legacy philosophy they determine what we do today that is outgrown the capacity of those who were involved in this to understand they just don't understand it and so therefore their use of their defaulting back on what they had they had learned decades ago. and that it's really building up sample let me point out something else here with all of the spying on everybody knowing where everybody is every minute of the day and all that you know they now have the ability to target anyone they want to for example we here in my house my wife and i are being targeted with the some kind of radiation i mean we are detecting it with the spectrum analyzers and we're documenting it so it's a question and it's not a pattern thing so it's nothing commercial and it comes and goes and looks like it's coming from a drawn out this only implies that things are happening inside this country that they don't want anybody to know about as well as all the crimes were committed in the past few months but that says you and dictatorships and to tell

a theory states have done this all throughout history every time there's an in internal problem they see there's a threat from the outside so everybody looks outside so don't look inside don't look at the man behind the curtain play the wizard of oz game this they've done over and over again down through history there's nothing new here it's the same plan and people fall for it every day every time every time and bill whether it's russia the u.s. china france or even monaco were jamaica what do you feel is the best path moving forward we've already opened pandora's box but how can the nation best defend themselves online while not sacrificing citizen privacy or escalating into a cyber arms race. to me that it's really been simple long if you find a problem you notify the originator of the device or software and they fix their problem if you want to have cyber security you've got to do that kind of thing otherwise. if you're not secure and and they can do things with meditated that are

possible to deduce without having to read what people are saying although they probably lost a lot of that keep i don't it's questionable because if they continue to late to need all the content of communication the people then then they have lost that capability but you know the stuff that new things coming in like by gee i mean this is not this is not something that saith these this kind of radiation can be deadly and i just think that we need to be where that these things pose a real danger to the large masses of people. and it's interesting when you look at blood just how how quickly we we grab technology and we use it before we really even know what it's capable of and how and how and how much it could truly harm society and that's the thing that scares me the most especially you start talking about all these different units one thing i understand espionage is espionage we've had that since the dawn of civilization one nation spying of another nation kind of accept that but i think the real concern here is that every time our government

says like as you mentioned we need to have better security it usually always mean the shining the magnifying glass more on the set of summary than any more than on the actual actual enemies is that something that we can change you know through electing the right people or is that so baked into the system now we were we don't have any hope if i want to be cynical and look at about what. well certainly in the the united banana republic states it is pretty difficult because the forces of evil are really numerous and they all hold positions where you mean you can see what they've done i mean people people commit crimes by modifying. 3 o 2 don't get held accountable for it and they take devastate other people and so you know the government is just so criminal now i just it's hard to it's hard to see you you really have to have a rest moods roots movement from the local area on up i mean i mean it was a very truman who once said you don't get rich being a politician unless you're

a crook well how many people down in washington and rich that's a really good observation and i have just like a minute left and i want to ask you did you ever think you know you you came forward back in 2001 blew the whistle a lot of water wrongdoings that you saw taking place at the n.s.a. did you ever think that it would get to be as bad as you see it today with the amount of spying i mean amount of. truly you know lockdown elements that but we don't really feel but it's happening all around us the drivers think are good that's bad when you when you blew the whistle back almost 2030 years ago. no i didn't and you know i thought we were better than that and i thought that the american public would buy stuff when they saw this and oppose it but they basically acquiesced to it and that's way that's why our government tried to they introduced it very slowly a little bit at that time getting over over 2 decades getting people to condition

to accept what is obviously con constitutional activity and the fact that now they're using these directed weapons against people is another thing that just says you know it look how far they're going and how ruthless they're willing to be it's truly astonishing what happens when we try to leave them on track to if we don't hold feet to the fire i i want to thank you as always for coming and bill and keep up the good work out there and keep educating people as you do always a pleasure having you on sir thank you. all right as we go to break remember that you can also start watching the hawks on the man through the brand new for both t.v. which is available on all platforms coming up with the 1.9 trillion dollars over 19 build i'll make a its way all the way through congress what will its economic impact be you'll find out next year watching the whole.

tactics that can be used to get innocent people to confess to crimes they didn't commit i don't even think people in the us really get that the police are allowed to lie to you the person who falsely fast actually came to believe the lie that they were told about their own behavior once a false confession is taken the case is closed and nobody really can tell the difference between a good confession and one that isn't. stand

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want to do it. because it's whole food place choice i knew where you're from and fails to chime in syria said. she ought to have a. model for them after the couple fucks around misbehaved for jim and then oil for food are fairly in the course. of the. yes. 712000 americans filed new unemployment claims this week and though white unemployment is going down the rate of unemployment for minority workers and particularly women who just isn't the jobless rate for women isn't even fully included in the numbers because they don't account for the pandemics role in

forcing women to drop out of the workforce to take on childcare responsibilities president joe biden's $1.00 trillion dollars coated relief package is a key sign that help is on the way stimulus checks could hit bank accounts by this weekend and this massive stimulus bill does something no one we package has ever done before reduce child poverty by more than half the provisions of the new stimulus package include a guaranteed stream of income for parents extends enhanced food stamp benefits and federal assistance for the unemployed meanwhile providing housing assistance and health insurance subsidies these key provisions combined would cut the poverty rate among black americans by 38 percent hispanic americans by 43 percent and asian americans by 24 percent according to the center on poverty and social policy at columbia university. changes to the child tax credit taking effect this year allow more low income parents to take advantage of it that's a huge boost to their survival funds all in all the coping $1000.00 stimulus

package is being heralded as the largest and most influential package since the great depression. but is it the great depression led to the development of banking reform laws emergency of work relief programs and the passing of several infrastructure bills that put america to work. president george w. bush signed the economic stimulus act on his way out in 2008 that act consisted of $152000000000.00 and $600.00 tax rebates to low and middle income class households during the great recession and the housing crisis then president barack obama signed the american recovery and reinvestment act in 2009 that law was created to save jobs create new ones invest in infrastructure health education temporary relief programs but pretty much the whole gamut the approximate cost was $787000000000.00 how do past him leap stimulus packages lined up with biden's

american economists and author richard joins us now welcome richard thank you. well richard what elements of this stimulus package do you think make it groundbreaking and how does it line up with some of the previous packages like the new deal. well it is larger i mean the economy has grown and the value of the dollar has shrunk and so it has to be larger if it isn't going to begin to do something and i want to be fair it is going to help some people that's long overdue but i believe nancy pelosi was the one who referred to it or at least one of the leaders in the congress as a transformative. bill that's what it is and that has to be understood or else we're going to be in a very very dangerous position in which promises are made or implied and will not attend not kept this is a stimulus which means for a little while there's a boost to the economy from pumping

a lot of money in as you rightly said president obama did that george bush did that we've had 3 crashes of our economy in this new one century and we flooded money and they had to spend our way and it doesn't work and i think the basic reason the is being stimulated if i can borrow a metaphor from from surgery you stimulate a person's heart with electric shock or some other form because you believe that his heart or her heart is basically ok and the stimulus is all that's needed because all the rest is in working order that's not the case in the united states whether it's our reaction to coal that or the fires in california or the failure of electricity in texas i mean i could go on but you get the idea we need a change in our system if we're going to overcome these problems all the lies we're going to be throwing the stimulus is more and more flooding the economy sure it's

better than nothing but it is not the solution. to the kinds of problems we've had last point we've had depressions before and we've had public health catastrophes before we have never had them both at the same time and this is a breakdown of our society and pretending that it isn't that throwing money at the problem will somehow make it better that is a recipe for making people very very disappointed you know 6 or 12 months from now i couldn't agree with you more i want to ask you given what you've just said what do you feel were the biggest blind spots in this in the stimulus package the you feel it mr didn't call for didn't do enough or. well that's really kind of the easy 2 things number one they didn't pass the minimum wage increase i mean goodness that

would at least pull some for and that isn't a 6 month shot that isn't the money that is something that's going to be built into the economy because a lot of people's wages are indexed to that in other words you get 10 percent or 20 percent or 50 percent more than whatever the minimum is so i would have held that least 3035000000 people and it would have been something they could tramped on that they could make decisions over the longer run which we need for a healthy economy that was a raggedy to not do something long term and basic and instead these little bits and pieces over here and the 2nd one is a jobs program we have admittedly 20000000 people plus all those women that you rightly point to who aren't even in the labor force i mean more because they have to take care of the children given these situations well we want to have a jobs program we did that in the 1930 s.

we put 15000000 people immediately to work for the federal government they had a job they had. income they could keep their homes they could lift their heads up they could invest in their own futures and that of their children that's what we need everybody knows that what in the world is holding back making those kinds of changes that are needed by this situation and instead promising this great recovery and then not really doing the things that would be needed to realize it great points as it relates to child poverty the u.s. has the largest child poverty rate of the developed world this family if have provisions that would cut that rate by half what else can be done and what it take why did it take so long to address this. it's a tragedy being as polite as i know how it's a tragedy that it took this long what are we doing it's our own future it's our own children and he won a statement about a society's breakdown that it doesn't take care of its own children but let me

hammer something if children are on our mind one of the things you have to understand your audience is for example prices in the world including in the united states are now rising and have been for some months much more at a much more rapid rate than inflation over 2 percent just in the month of february alone if that continues as most observers believe that will that alone will erase a large part of what the help is that the government is handing out it'll be undone because you know the poor you are the bigger the share of your income you have to spend on food if goes up in price it's like a tax it just means you can't buy as much of it $1.00 thing and the government is giving you a little bit more on the other hand the government is failing to deal with the problem while pseuds little bit like with housing you don't have to pay your rent

but meanwhile you live want to cumulate the rent and one of the world are you going to do 206. 8 months from now when all of that comes crashing down on you and again you have to change the system or else you're not serious you know you're playing political games a little bit like your own cyber war expert was explaining this is not solving a problem it's sort of pretending that you're doing let me ask you this. in light of everything that you said and no one here is a pollyanna or putting our head in the ground in any fashion but why why are they not addressing these problems the way they should what is keeping politicians what is keeping our elected officials from saying you know what i do care about child poverty let's truly fix that you know what i do want to see our country have money to spend on the people of this country have money to spend and have savings why aren't we seeing that fixed is it purely just the lobbying and corruption what what's keeping our leaders from actually changing this. well you can use

a lot of words lobbying and corruption that are as good as the next one if you want to be polite you would say in our political leaders are in office because they have rich donors and they know where their bread is buttered and they do what the big companies and the wealthy people they don't want to spend taxes they don't want to be disturbed in their gated communities they don't want to have to fund anything they don't want to risk that the stock market that might come if the government massively help people of the middle and at the bottom the way we did in the new deal they don't want that and right now we have a politics that's dependent on the big money donors you can see and left and right democrat and republican and as long as that continues the needs of those at the time will get an earring and the needs of the rest of us will have what we're doing now is a kind of critical understand game but it didn't change the system because again it's a systemic problem. thank you so much for coming out and really pointing that out

to us and pointing out and educating our audience the way you always do because the ridge was always a pleasure having you on the circuit but the great work out there. thank you len i appreciate the opportunity. powerful breaking it down like i think that he should have been in some of those rooms while they were making these negotiation that be wonderful why can't we have him be in charge of the economics in this country all right everybody oh man i'm not no that is our show for you today remember in this world we are definitely not told that we are loved so i tell you all i love you. and i will keep on watching all those hawks out there and have a great day in my place.

some control for a middle class time most of the night most of them are very hardworking people who want to get ahead that either have some some health issues or have some of how this trick about luck the whole time jule moon told me his pay for a place to live and missing just a month's rent can get you with victim to gunpoint if anything bad happens to any thing that just throws your budget off slightly. better catch up real quick or you're going to have a judgment of possession against you and get a ticket by anyone that's homeless is history like garbage people look at you like a monster or someone bad or you chose to be there most of the time it's not the case see how it is to be pull in the world's richest country. join me every thursday on the alex salmond show and i'll be speaking to guests of the world of politics small business i'm show business i'll see you then.

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