women debate is is it fair for trans women athletes to compete in women's categories in sport i have become the poster girl for. everything wrong with trans women in the world. every single story that has a thing to do with trans women personally trans women athletes i get mentioned every time. i think toward the end who won a world championship in cycling has been hit with a wave of backlash including death threats. you broke the world's record. in what's happening here's your guy. who was born male finished in the race in los angeles this sunday becoming the 1st of a transgender woman to win gold in the competition. i'm a world champion in the masters track cycling sprint event as far as we know i'm the only trans woman world champion in olympic event. even though it's

a masters event and at that one podium photo is what everyone focuses on unfortunately people looked at me being bigger than the girls that i was racing and said oh well it must be unfair look how much bigger she is. people who i meet david they do not know one trans despite what people love to think online so people see a picture of me when i had much much shorter hair because i cut all my hair off the hair and say oh well she obviously she's obviously trained she looks like a man. i've received hundreds of thousands of hate messages at this point mostly on twitter.

just the other day. so i posted that picture on instagram with so when we before we get on to get into the pedals and strap then we have to be held. and they always hold under the saddle and someone posing as you can comic be like is the checking your stack and i'm just like. of course these comments get to me to some degree. i have a lot of therapy i have a therapist a psychiatrist that i seek to handle for exactly this. my name is jennifer wagner a sollie so i'm a cyclist i started writing in 2005 i definitely do not think that it's fair for athletes that were born as biological males to compete in the women's category

. so that was me on the right in the podium photo. so i decided i wasn't going to disrespect the race organizer or my country on the world stage and i smiled for the podium photo. but i knew i needed to start fighting to change the rules i definitely don't think that that contest was fair because the winner had been born male and had gone through male puberty and had retained all the advantage that that entails if mckinnon had been there i would have faced the 2nd place right or at a later round and possibly could have beaten her because i had more confidence later in the race. i felt that wind was not earned and so i tweeted that i was the 3rd place writer and. it's

definitely not fair so after that twitter exchange i did find myself the target of some online hate it was really stressful time for me and my family and we actually feared for our safety. jennifer wagner she came 3rd in the sprint event she. responded to. pretty much tweet on twitter saying that it's not fair for me to compete but that. is that. she has beat me in 10 of 13 races we've ever raced with each other. i don't know how it's unfair when she beats me 10 out of 13 times. that i did finish in front of mckenna several times but that does not mean that you can and do not have an unfair advantage if you and i were running and one mile race

. and you started 500 feet in front of me. i might still win but that doesn't mean you didn't have an unfair in field and. opposition to transfer is pretty much always irrational fear which is the dictionary definition of trans phobia and transfer. i do believe that transgender people have rights however sport is one thing that's always been based on sex and i definitely don't see a reason that we need to start changing that now because if somebody stealing. my name is j.c. cooper. powerlifting

a. sport is 3 lives. and basically the goal is to. lift as much as much weight as you can and those 3 lifts. identified as queer means that i get identified like what my sexuality is and that it's not a fixed thing for me it could be fluid it could change from day to day again it's me saying i don't like your boxes i get to define what my sexuality is and what my gender it is point in time. for sporting purposes that's different because

i have to actually declare it but in my personal life queerness for me. is just as much political as it is personal. my name is. i'm a housewife an amateur powerlifting. 200-1000 . women. this is just 2 weeks after he won the minnesota women's u.s. women's championship and. the and that is our reality we are dimorphic species and we cannot change that if you ask me that she sees. title in the u.s. p.a.

is fair there's 2 sides to that it is technically fair j.c. rules the u.s. p.g.a. allowed him to compete with the doping females. however i do not feel that those rules are fair it is not fair for a male to taking women's championship effort in powerlifting the male advantage is huge bone structure muscle mass they play a role with every single left in fact i have a female friend who's 11 time world champion in her forty's and her 15 year old son is now close to breaking her records.

today we're at the apartment click clinic and i'm going to get some blood panels. so what they'll do is they'll draw a few vials of blood and they'll test for testosterone. testosterone is something that does watts of different useful things in our bodies and people think that it plays a vital role in muscle and strength development we also know quite confidently that if you take someone's natural level to stop. and lower it they will probably get

slower weaker. and now my personal bests are 215 in the bench. my squat is 3 or a little under 215 for about an inch and then about 365-3654 the deadlift i don't know what the best ever records are for power lifters but i know the nico for our own. is in my weight class cheese lifting $1400.00 pounds plus. it's i'm lifting about just under $900.00 so that's it's a significant difference and that's it don't play my old. cheap stuff but. i'm still pretty in the middle. i think people are looking at it very closely. as a way to eliminate people's participation.

he treated women sports for a good recent. amount of transition and by taking a morning testosterone can magically changing into. testosterone has been used by a proxy for womanhood and it's not we're not our hormone levels we deal with pregnancy ministration menopause and these affect our everyday lives they affect every minute on our training schedules. i myself know what it's like to have to live through having a crash. and even gone through miscarriage is to have stopped me from

training i had it's hard as it is to get out of bed. powerlifting has empowered me through that and. it's devastating to me that these men say that they feel like a woman and they will not ever know what it's like to feel the loss of a baby they have to keep trading through that. very many biological reality is that they will never face if they do not know what it is to feel like a woman who can simply feel our genders.

unlike taste strong like sight or unlike hearing the brain doesn't have an organ for time right we have no organ for time nor could we because time isn't a material physical substance like matter or like light so the brain has to create the perception of time. always gauge with. survivor.

if you're rich. or poor. so you should be seen more if you don't take that advice. all. americans love. this was a fundamental part of our political leadership our country a large understood the bargain you get a home and then you know rebel right as the things you don't revolt if you have a stake in the system.

in the united states. there's no such thing as a level playing field if by level playing field we mean that competitors don't have the advantage over each other every single athletes especially at the olympic level the world championship level we all have biological advantages over each other. so people like michael phelps for example the. many times gold medal swimmer his body proportions are ridiculous he's got very long arms for his body size he has feet that are exceptionally big for his body size so they're effectively

flippers. so he's born with all these ridiculous advantages that effectively make him a fish and we celebrate the. you know why are you making me why are you making people that are like michael phelps but for some reason transfused are treated differently activists like to argue that normal variation in the human bodies makes up for the male advantage but this is simply a red herring. we can easily luck in america at the high school track records and see that the best boy is in high school beating the women's olympic record. i agree in sports there is no true playing field however as a society we have decided to categorize sports based on sex there's no sporting categories for arm length or foot size we categorized by sex for the reason that

men and women are different. i think it's a legitimate question why do we have gendered sport do you have gender categories in sport because we do treat men and women differently so because women aren't giving as good coaching opportunities or women or are shamed this particular in this country from being strong women with muscles called men the way that we play with children is different we're rougher with boys than we are with girls we let boys climb trees and break their bones and we try to protect girls these social differences a matter to performance throughout our lives. males have larger or they have stronger muscles they're able to roll those muscles easier and hold on to that muscle mass for

a longer. if you look at sports across the board that are power based there's consistently a 10 percent difference between the fastest men and the fastest women if there were no separate female category in sports it would be very difficult for any woman to be a man and not let a competition there be no medals prizes or celebrations for women again it's a social difference it's not biological so we don't know how much this difference between men and women is social and how much is biological. also have to ask you to show us what your transition. medically. there is a social fascination with for example our genitals so it strikes us as people

as a little weird that people want to know what generals we have when they have no intention of sleeping with us for example so. it's irrelevant to my. day to day life for example what genitals i have so it should be irrelevant to how society treats us as well. as the. issue of males competing in female sports it carries off of the field and goes into the bathroom and locker rooms it's a very private space for women and when we look at self reported studies of males who identify as transgender the vast majority over 90 percent of them do not have surgery they are intact males. 'd but they should through the surgery. i don't think i don't think i have to answer that. there are

people in our society that don't want trans people in bathrooms and they don't want to transfer people who participate at all and something like as small as you know having access to. it is enough for some people to get aggressive. they're worried that trance woman. commit some sort of crime or sexual assaults against this woman and we know that. unfounded fear. doesn't. transfer women are far far more likely to be the victims of assaults you know when it's bathroom and insists women are at the hands of a transient. it's not that they feel like all transgender people are a threat but by allowing them into our bathrooms in locker rooms we're training young girls to feel comfortable with male bodies in their private spaces this isn't

right. calculated how many olympians there have been since the 2003 policy so. goes through the 2004 olympics in athens through the 2018 olympics in korea and there have been over 54000 olympians in that time 0 turns off we have even qualified to medal. it doesn't matter how tiny a proportion the transgender athletes are just ask the women who they're beating and whose records they're taking. so. i'm going to canada yeah i was on the can she is this also from canada but lives here in the united states. or

the. transgender athletes i think it's great that she's out here racing and that we're able to compete against her. i don't think that it was her being transgender having an unfair advantage that she beat me in the race today i think it was a bit of an experience from my part i thought to grow as a writer and get faster as well so. while we are only seeing a small percentage of males who identify as transgender entering the women's competitions currently it has increased dramatically and in my eyes one woman losing a title is too many when these rules were changed there was not enough time for the

athletes to qualify with this new rule and the 2016 olympics that's why we haven't seen men on the women's podium yet it's coming in tokyo. he needs a lot to be one of guard most of the day. here is a balls to do it. creates a good mental space. it's a good place for me to. manage some of the negatives. that society throws at you i put on girls sports team since i was 8 years old sports mean a lot to me i've developed confidence and belief in myself and i've learned the

value of hard work and dedication sports have basically saved my life they have helped me through some of the most difficult times and i can imagine my life without powerlifting now sport played a massive central role in societies and many of our lives so to exclude a group of people for who they are from something so socially important is fundamentally unfair trans women are not then we're not men in dresses i worked so hard day after day year after year doing everything i can optimize my performance and i know that i can never compare to somebody that's going through male puberty. it's like banging your head against the wall do they really think this is fair. i just don't believe it.

i believe the solution to males competing in female sports is to either have. compete in the male category or. category for them to compete or for anyone to compete in it as far as having. a separate legal entity for trans people no i don't agree with it it's basically saying that no you are not a woman i think that the idea of having an other category is really peter fear trans people who may be succeeding because nobody has issues with trans people in sports and told someone when it's transgender women are males. to compete. they will no longer have. to compete in.

the brain. i think increasingly people are willing to say that trans women are women for sport and i don't think that makes much sense i don't think you can say that we are real women that we are really fully included and we have all the same rights except for sport the practice of sport is a human right so to exclude trans women from sport is to violate a human right. 5. as you read the stand in here for last. hour or. so from what i saw.

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