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people who i meet david they do not know one trans despite what people love to think online so people see a picture of me when i had much much shorter hair because i cut all my hair off hair and say oh well she obviously she's obviously trained she looks like a man. i've received hundreds of thousands of messages at this point mostly on twitter. just the other day. so i posted that picture on instagram with so when we before we get on to get into the pedals and strap then we have to be held. and they always hold under the saddle and someone posts and it's been like izzy checking your sac
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just like. of course these comments get to me to some degree. i have a lot of therapy i have a therapist that i seek to handle exactly this. my name is jennifer wagner so i'm a cyclist i started writing in 2005 i definitely do not think that it's fair for athletes that were born as biological males to compete in the women's category . so that was me on the right in the podium photo. so i decided i wasn't going to disrespect the race organizers. or for my country on the world stage and i smiled
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for the podium photo. but i knew i needed to start 'd fighting to change the rules i definitely don't think that that contest was fair because the winner had been born male and had gone through male puberty and had retained all the advantage that that entails if mckinnon had been there i would have faced the 2nd place right or at a later round and possibly could have beaten or because i had more confidence later in the race. i felt that wind was not earned and so i tweeted that i was the 3rd place writer and it's definitely not fair so after that twitter exchange i did find myself the target of some online hate it was really stressful time for me and my family and we actually feared for our safety. jennifer
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wagner she came 3rd in the sprint event she. responded to. pretty much a hateful tweet on twitter saying that it's not fair for me to compete but what that says is that. she has beat me in 10 to 13 races we've ever raced with each other. i don't know how it's unfair when she beats me 10 out of 13 times. but i did finish in front of mckenna several times but that does not mean that mckinnon did not have an unfair advantage if you and i were running and one mile race. and you started 500 feet in front of me. i might still win but that doesn't mean you didn't have an unfair advantage and. opposition to transfer went out for you is pretty much always. fear which is the dictionary
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definition of trance phobia and trance phobias irrational. i do believe that transgendered people have rights however sport is one thing that's always been based on sex and i definitely don't see a reason that we need to start changing that now because if somebody stealing. my name is j.c. cooper. powerlifting is a strength sport is 3 letters squat. and basically the goal is to. lift as much as much weight as you can in
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those 3 lifts. i don't know if it's clear it means that i get identified like what my sexuality is and that it's not a fixed thing for me it could be fluid it could change from day to day again it's it's me saying i don't like your boxes i get to define my sexuality is in mumbai gender it is at any point in time. for sporting purposes that's different because i have to actually declare it but in my personal life queerness for me. is just as much political as it is personal. my. i mean. i'm
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a housewife and amateur power lifter. are at the 200-1000 minnesota women say championships. this was just 2 weeks after he won the minnesota women's u.s. women's championship and a minnesota women's state press record. that is our reality we are dimorphic species and we cannot change that x. if you ask me that she sees title in the u.s. p.a. is fair there's 2 sides to that it is technically fair. rules the u.s. p.g.a. allowed him to compete with the doping females. however i do not feel
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that those rules are fair it is not fair for a male to take the women's championship after in powerlifting the male advantage is huge bone structure muscle mass they play a role with every single lift in fact i have a female friend who's 11 time world champion in her forties and her 15 year old son is now close to breaking her records. today. clinic and i'm going to get some blood. draw a few bottles of. and we'll test for testosterone. testosterone
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is something that does lots of different useful things in our bodies and people think that it plays a vital role in muscle and strength development we also know quite confidently that if you take someone's natural level and lower it they will probably get slower weaker. and now my personal bests are 215 in the bench. my squat is 3 or a little under 215 for bench and then about 365-3654
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the deadlift i don't know what the best ever records are for power lifters but i know all the nico for our own is in my weight class cheese lifting $1400.00 pounds plus and permeates i'm lifting about just under $900.00 so that's it's a significant difference and that's it don't play my own but i don't think they are cheap but in the grand scheme of things i'm still pretty in the middle of the woods . i think people are looking at it very purposely. as a way to eliminate people's participation. really looking at the numbers .
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he created women in sports for a good reason. amount of transition and by taking a morning testosterone can magically changing into. testosterone has been used by a proxy for womanhood and it's not we're not our hormone levels we deal with pregnancy ministration menopause and these affect our everyday lives they affect every minute on our training schedules. i myself know what it's like to have to live through having a crash. and even gone through a miscarriage is to have some different training i had as hard as it is to get out of bed. powerlifting has empowered me through that and.
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it's devastating to me that these men say that they feel like a woman and they will not ever know what it's like to feel the loss of a baby they have to keep trading through that. very many biological reality is that they will never face they do not know what it is to feel like a woman who can simply feel our genders. one of the worst ever mass shootings in america wasn't less vigorous in 2017 the
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tragedy exposed a little of the real last big where many say elected officials are controlled by casino owners. reveal. really and now it's part of. the american public barely remembers that it happens just shows you the power of money and. the powerful showed that true colors when the pandemic hit the most contagious contagion we've seen in decades and then you have a mayor who doesn't care so here's caroline goodman offering the lives of the vegas residents to the control group. deep indifference to the people could have been saved if they were taken action absolutely. machines doing is a money machine is a huge cash is ran by people who don't care about people's lives.
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you're more likely to walk free if you're rich. or if you're poor. you got 2 eyes 2 ears and one mouth. so you should be seen here in a whole lot more than you're saying if you don't take that advice easy going to dig yourself a hole. there's no such thing as a. playing field that competitors don't have an advantage over each other every single athlete especially at the olympic level the world championship level we all have biological advantages over each other.
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so people like michael phelps for example. the many time gold medal swimmer his body proportions are ridiculous he's got very long arms for his body size. exceptionally big for his body size so they're effectively flippers. so he's born with all these ridiculous advantages that effectively make him a fish and we celebrate. you know why are we making money why are you making rules and people that are like michael phelps but for some reason. are treated differently activists like to argue that normal variation in human bodies makes up for the male advantage but this is simply a red herring we can easily look in america at the high school track records and see that the best boy in high school beating the women's olympic record.
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i agree in sports there is no true global playing field however as a society we have decided to categorize sports based on sex there's no sporting categories for arm length or foot size we categorize by sex for the reason that men and women are different. and i think it's a legitimate question why do we have gendered sport do you have gender categories in sport because we do treat men and women differently so because women aren't giving as good coaching opportunities or women or are shamed as particular in this country for being right women with muscles called men the way we play with children is different we're rougher with boys than we are with girls we let boys climb trees and break their bones and we try to protect girls these social differences
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a matter to performance throughout our lives. males have larger or again they have stronger muscles they're able to roll those muscles easier and hold on to that muscle mass for a longer. if you look at sports across the board that are power based there's consistently a 10 percent difference between the fastest men and the fastest women if there were no separate female category in sports it would be very difficult for any woman to be a man in a lot of competition there'd be no medals prizes. or celebrations for women again that's a social difference it's not biological so we don't know how much the difference between men and women is social and how much is biological.
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also have to ask you to show us what your transition. medically. there is a social fascination with for example our genitals so it strikes us as people as a little weird that people want to know what generals we have when they have no intention of sleeping with us for example so. it's irrelevant to my day to day life for example what genitals i have so it should be irrelevant to how society treats us as well. as the. males competing in female sports it carries off of the field and goes into the bathroom and locker rooms it's a very private space for with mating and when we look at self reported studies of males who identify as transgender the vast majority over 90 percent that do
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not have surgery they are intact males. 'd but they should through the surgery. i don't think i don't think i have to answer that. there are people in our society that don't want trans people in bathrooms and they don't want people to participate at all and something like as small as you know having access to. it is enough for some people to get aggressive. they're worried that trance woman. commit some sort of crime or sexual assaults against this woman and we know that dots and unfounded fear. doesn't. transfer women are far far more likely to be to victims of assaults
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in a women's bathroom and insists women are at the hands of a transient. it's not that they feel like all transgender people are a threat but by allowing them into our bathrooms in locker rooms we're training young girls to feel comfortable with male bodies in their private spaces this isn't right. calculated how many olympians there have been since the 2003 policy so that goes through the 2004 olympics in athens through the 2018 olympics in south korea and there have been over 54000 olympians in that time 0 turns off we have even qualified one of metal. it doesn't matter how tiny a proportion the transgender athletes are just ask the women who they're beating and whose records they're taking.
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i'm going to him i'm from canada yeah we can she's us also from canada but lives here in the united states. has transgender athlete and i think it's great that she's out here racing and that we're able to compete against her. i don't think it was her being transgender having unfair advantage that she beat me in the race today i think it was a bit of an experience from my part am i thought to grow as a writer and get faster as well so. while we are only seeing a small percentage of males who identify as transgender entering the women's
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competitions currently it has increased dramatically and in my eyes one woman losing a title is too many when these rules were changed there was not enough time for the athletes to qualify with this new role in the 2016 olympics that's why we haven't seen man on the women's podium yet it's coming in tokyo. rose to news ought to be one of our the day. here is a balls to do it. if it's a good mental space. it's
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a good place for me to. manage some of negative sides. with society throws at you i put on girls sports team since i was 8 years old sports mean a lot to me i develop confidence and belief in myself and i've learned the value of hard work and dedication sports have basically saved my life they have helped me through some of the most difficult times and i couldn't imagine my life without powerlifting now sport played a massive central role. in societies and many of our lives so to exclude a group of people for who they are from something so socially important is fundamentally unfair trans women are not then we're not men in dresses i worked so hard day after day year after year doing everything i can optimize my performance
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and i know that i can never compare to somebody that's going through male puberty. it's like banging your head against the wall do they really think this is fair. i believe the solution to males competing in female sports is you either have in the male category or. open category for them to compete or for anyone to compete in it as far as having. a separate legal entity for trans people no i don't agree with it it's basically saying that no you are not a woman i think that the idea of having an other category is really based on peter fear. people who maybe succeed because nobody has issues with trans
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people in sports and told someone when it's transgender women are males. to compete in sports they will no longer have female sports to compete in men's sports. i think increasingly people are willing to say that trans women are women for sport and i don't think that makes much sense i don't think you can say that we are real women that we are really fully included and we have all the same rights. except for sport the practice of sport is a human right so to exclude trans women from sport is to violate a human right. to
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