the response has been masked so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we're in it together. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confront cation let it be an arms race based on often spanning dramatic developments only and going to exist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical of time time to sit down and talk. the problem with the united states to china and russia a big country is which they don't like. to you does matter what kind of regime but they don't have. problems with different regimes the countries generalists quite

a bit like saudi arabia for. it is their. different regimes which was. very strong the americans cannot do nothing about so the result is that they don't know what to do with it so bush go to you know the swiss the swiss. a grandmother doing a life for murder was released from prison yesterday after 17 years when i judge said she did not do it susan mellon recently filed a lawsuit against the detective who arrested her for hiding evidence that detective is the same one who arrested reggie.

what we know as a society we see the bad guy in the good guy well that's cops and robbers but when the cop becomes the robber the game is over the game is over s. corruption it was a horrific twist of fate that led to reggie's release. was more fortunate his father's death led to an unexpected turn providence was his big thing in any have you know great life insurance was 184000 that my dad left and i was able to parlay that up to about $236.00 stock market and then it was just 100 percent of my time dedicated to my case and that enabled those to hire

a private investigator we have essentially a growing war chest of evidence that i have committed the crime or at least that all the evidence that was presented was was false evidence i had received a complaint from i flew up to. the state prison where bruce lister was i spoke to him once somebody is accused of murder and you're arrested for murder it's tape recorded everything as tape recorder i couldn't find his tape 'd it had been. taken out of evidence by detective monsoon and it was never put back into evidence. active months it was said the footprints outside the house matched the footprints on the inside lieutenant gavin found the footprints were actually looked at by a scientist or any qualified expert so he took matters into his own hands so i contacted our people scientific investigative division so he takes out this big magnifying glass looks at it looks at the other one day goes these 2 don't match see this is a great embarrassment for any large organization that you've convicted somebody for

murder and then 51020 years later it's true it turns out that the person is actually innocent and this is what my lieutenant said that is not in that prison do you understand me sergeant captain they will do everything they can to stop you perfect you from going forward with the information you have upon a deal in the comprehensive work at the private investigator yeah they p.d. internal affairs department claimed his complaints were unfounded and that no misconduct had occurred you can't have an internal investigation were we all investigate our sales. this guy good job to give the words or anything like that just to give the system that has no checks and balances you who is taking y'all i believe in internal affairs should be separate from the police department there is no way that a police department can investigate themselves currently there are no independent organizations whose job it is to investigate police misconduct and there's no

oversight of prosecutors either. prosecutorial misconduct dizzee major factor of wrongful convictions just a single thread that runs through almost all of the wrongful conviction cases deskovic as a master's in criminal justice specializing in wrongful convictions is also a survivor of prosecutorial misconduct i spent 16 years in prison i was wrongfully convicted at 17. emerged at 32 jeff eventually won a lawsuit against putnam county new york prison. which enabled him to start his own foundation the founder and executive director of the jeff it just did it but just as there's no deterrent there's no oversight is no punishment for prosecutors so they can break the law they don't face criminal penalties even when they engage in withholding evidence of innocence threatening witnesses coercing witnesses no matter how serious the misconduct as if the prosecutor commits that after an arrest

has been made they have what's called prosecutorial immunity they're above the law the prosecutors to really uphold what's become just words which is you know they're there to do justice they're there to do the right thing it becomes more like we're there to when expression the prosecutor's offices actually keep statistics on conviction rates well you should be credited that you looked at a case where the police thought they had a good case but a good prosecutor looked and said you know what there's some mistakes made here we should drop the charges in this case we should incentivize that but instead we actually incentivize the opposite of getting convictions and getting conviction rates all of a sudden justice gets lost in that process and whether this guy committed the crime or not gets lost in that process because it's all about winning my case immunity that. i meet in the real world you know you suppose we hold accountable for your wrongdoings so therefore if you are

a person of authority already the you have to be held at a higher standard than just a lightly i think we actually did step back and kind of rethink the whole system in the way we're approaching it because it's become this game and people's lives are lost as a result of it. if you ever do find yourself wrongfully convicted odds are you never get now the 1st thing you need to do is in preservation letters to the police department labs and the courts . questing that you want all your evidence. otherwise they may destroy it within 30 days try to find it in the sense projects that will take you case. this process take years. before. the innocence project estimates conservatively there could easily be 40000 to over 100000 americans only wrongfully

convicted the majority of which are people of color. this is private investigator on this case it is a very. private investigator who made a complaint. on the desk of an internal affairs investigator who. looked at bruce's claims in a very serious minded fashion. it's the people like detective and the others out there that have made our job very difficult to do day after day because we lose the confidence of the public and with the confidence of the courts we have to have police chief structures of public service that are willing to do the right thing and terminate employees who are doing the wrong thing if you want to say you're the good guy but you're ostracized by everybody that you believe then it's

a very difficult situation because i have to continue to work for the same department the. i don't look at myself as a hero i look at myself as a sort of as a survivor because the system attacked me system one after me and the system did everything they could to keep her in jail and everything to keep me quiet it's been a lot of therapy my wife and i met in 3rd grade we were elementary junior high high school sweethearts who lived on the same street and that's a been it's been a very. if a cold difficult road she is 3rd generation l.a.p.d. and. their survival is day by day and always looking over your shoulder whether you're doing the right thing or not you're constantly looking over your shoulder and every time i get called into the captain's office i wonder what did i do now and i've never had that feeling before i just kept on telling myself they are not going to defeat me they're not going to defeat me it's just when you come across

something like this what are you going to do and that's the difficult thing if i had not given up the information that i did to the l.a. times bruce lester would still be in prison. a bloody footprint that was attributed to bruce and his trial had recently been reanalyzed and shown to not been made from bruce issue so they got his interest in the case and we started talking to those that private investigator began the 7 month investigation and at the conclusion of that they filed an article called the case with doubt that eventually one of them in ward one of the times and. i want up sitting between 2005 when the 1st article came out and 2009 in prison for solid years. a widely recognized innocent man we knew back in 20032004 that we had probably a person that was imprisoned for a crime he did not commit and it took 5 years for the courts to work through the

entire system there were a lot of delays because of the conduct of my own police department and the conduct of the california attorney general. reggie kohl spent 16 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit 10 of those years were spent in solitary confinement and he had to kill another man to get a trial it's a miracle reggie got out of all. thames is a miracle story as well in late 2002. after 26 years he made parole. i signed some papers for the prof's or he said ok see you later. then asked me how i was getting home didn't ask me if i had a home when i realize these people honestly don't give.

to survive good you know a lot harder than it sounds to me and develop post-traumatic stress disorder. and require immediate treatment you under the food new clothes you're going to need money for transportation to and from your parole officer meeting if you miss a beating you could be fine you so that gives you are going to be the judge but there's a lot of discrimination out there for employment and speak you which you corn indeed. i wouldn't have a home if it wasn't for the rescue a life foundation to set up a house a transitional housing. god and that foundation. is what's got me by. a series and i'm sitting here and not back inside. founded by dwayne mcalary who knows how challenging it can be to enter society. did 25 years himself

asses goo we would have to go to moes dress and hang out all day work around the business at that time we had there organizations that would just patrol the area so it was pretty say we had black panthers. gringas organization 90 sleighs we head the nation. it was pretty cool you know you don't have to worry about people coming in holding you up and everything you have to worry about that helps them but it was after the cointelpro when they get pushed on the ground that everything. you know we're crazy all of those came out in the you know you were you were fair game in the store as well as we started having a lot. of burglaries my mother she just. one day while i was there. grabbed it those are grown. figure it was in. the news oh did you know he had

his own issues how to move in just you know with her kid and demanded more he got all the money we hate you know. mother wasn't robbed once she was robbed over and over again. americans love. this was a fundamental part of how our political leadership and our country at large understood the bargain you get a home and then you know rebel right as the things you don't revolt if you have a stake in the system. and. the longer deeper history housings men in the united states not just that.

the american dream. the dream is for. humanity has never seen such strange natural phenomena befall giant coming to this appearing in the peninsula. one after another. but never a doubt about the good news if you have to take you for you. we don't have a day you want to hear. this one appeared in 2020. how often and where will new crisis appear. how dangerous for humans from only you devote the money and she joins you one russian scientists came quite close to working out what's going on. they build a full scale 3 d. model of the black hole.

i had a good friend he would always come in about me being so tight and he smokes we submit just take this you need to the right medication and the page you know led to cocaine in the p.c. pee. wee shot in the lead to my crime that happened this mean in prison you know into prison for 2nd degree murder to do was rowdy they were pows have been the middleman going to get drugs in the end of the you know robbing me because it happened to us in business the family business so much this guy he wasn't just someone that was robbing me all the time he was the image of somebody

had been victimized in my family and all these other times you got away with just how you want to go to get away so it was kind of like advantage to a retaliation thing for you when you're you going to pay for that is so what i found is that which you can't forgive you end up becoming. what you can't forgive you end up becoming. so i had to learn how to forgive and then to go and i had to learn how to forgive him and let it go because he was also after i got to see his record this guy had a rash each you know from here from one side roll into the other you know and i could see you know he needed to same help did i need we are generally magine that there is such thing as for example a murderer and then they were in the murder in the public imagination and then most of our minds whether we thought about it or not and this is someone who likes to

murder and who would murder given the opportunity i think that's what you think of a kiss and make that's what murders do they go around murdering mate and that's why you don't let them out of prison see them out of prison are going to murder again. the reality is that murder is almost always a context of the situation it is statistically speaking very rarely driven by a compulsion or a desire to do harm it's a reaction and set of circumstances to a real or perceived threat to extreme emotional. propensity basically we're confusing. the serial killer with prisoners in general if we as a society and imagine that the people in prison are fully human incredibly diverse have often been through some of the most extreme and difficult situations and conditions some of which many of us couldn't even really begin to imagine then

suddenly all of that judgment and all that hostility and all that vindictiveness doesn't have such a natural place anymore many of our students have committed murder and felt horrible about their crime it's things that happen it's not like they needed to sit in prison for 15 or 20 years to realise they've done a bad thing or to never want to do it again. there's no human element. to. it. there's no human. they're not there to help you they're not there to help society they can say they you. for all they want. for. not in california and not in a lot of places. to punish people and they take a bad situation and they usually make it much worse. you know what the official success rate of state prison is.

that's success rate of 20 percent matching if we have those requirements of. and out of the sky it's a little bit crazy making and that is department of justice that us federal government research dr michael coyle attended harvard university as a ph d. in just the studies and as a professor of criminal justice at california state university dr coyle says the prison not only increases criminal behavior and has a deleterious effect on society as a whole what happens to a family when the wage earner is removed from society and thrown into prison for 10 years. what happens to those children our of am proud one of their chances of success in life start to go down what will how does that impact the community loss of resources in my community more demands in the community now to help to help this family maybe the other parent maybe the children it says so clearly

a failure by every measure that you look at it but i think we just need to rethink the whole thing and not just keep trying to put lipstick on this bag because that's what don't i think it is difficult for people to imagine a world without prisons now we've become so accustomed to the idea of prisons that it's hard for people to imagine well what do you do with people if you don't put them in prison when when they've done wrong there are other alternatives just ask he said the degree of civilization in a society could be judged by entering its prisons hebrews 133 remember those who are in chains as if you were in jesus which. we don't we put everybody at risk. my husband dan was a police officer and he was killed in the line of duty and my goal at the trial was to get the man who killed my has been convicted of 1st degree murder and given the

death penalty and that's what i got that's what happened i thought ok here it is i got justice i'm going to be free from this and it didn't happen. it was just. change anything. for. my oldest son was murdered. from winter break college. and i was shot to death. in the projects and stuff. so i jumped him our car and i drove over there to the projects and i jumped on the car and i said. i'm like you know is left is all blown into focus you know and i might win without

anybody. in the parents in the ones that are left behind like a mike let's listen to something different there's an opportunity here for us to take the wisdom that we know works what we would do for our own kids or own kids were in trouble into a very by these kids. and for all. to police and prisons for profit. at least half of the people in there are in there for crimes of addiction or economic desperation or mental health instead of just throwing everybody that we decide if we can help and to present the money for restored justice programs. and social services. there has to be citizen oversight and accountability for all our public servants. who have access to all of the data if you have any interest in justice or equal access to opportunity in this country a. matter of. being

logical. to. love. for yourself. good monday morning to you how a poignant man finally free after serving 16 years for a crime he didn't commit i don't think it was real and so on so much are these invisible. better. trying to describe it. was an unbelievable feeling that was just an emotional roller coaster that you know i mean i cried watching out it was just the magnitude of all these years. now here it is and then. a moment later i would be too bewildered to cry and i

would just be. that that whole day was really scary for a lot of people but i think that it would be like yeah. i was terrified there were well wishers well wishers there of officers of the new that. i think they knew the truth certainly knew the character you know my character and then i was in the parking lot. the air smelled different. and i wish my mom could have been there and wish my dad could have been there was my stepmom kind of him. but i think you know where they were. in his. life was like i don't know this i want tourney's i just feel like running like just getting his 4 away from that

place is impossible the best. not the answer that everybody would think. that i would have but. it was a. joyous time for me i mean like i literally was scared to death my cousin was waiting for me my private investor. it was waiting for me and i said. you want to hear what i actually said. and i looked at paul and i said you know. let's get the stuff in the truck out of here. and we could leave fast enough. the 1st place we stopped there was for some breakfast and. i was like amazed at just the syrup me. is just was overwhelming it was completely overwhelming. i haven't been in

a vehicle without being chained at my feet and with a waist chain and then handcuffs hooked to the waist chain and in a paper jumpsuit for 26 years the. word adjustment i mean. to try to try to figure it out too i have to. i'm still trying to figure out word out by. how do you adjust color through the planet mars to earth. oh you think the ox is saying look here. i don't think i'm just. being. me.

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