catalyze violent uprisings or around the world some argue they have been even more significant than those in the 1960 s. when civil rights marches led to assassinations of icons like martin luther king jr and malcolm x. in part 2 of me speaking to avengers endgame hollywood actor frank grillo about his post coven 1000 politics in cinema but 1st joining me now from new york is the co-founder of the black lives matter greater new york chapter who are continue some work thanks so much for coming on to these opening arguments today why is the case this so important given centuries you have a ticking they did have pain for people of color in the americas well this is where the rubber meets the more rope everyone across the world saw the george floyd chile everybody experience there saying everybody is the size with black people in that moment i guess right now is the true test of the american justice system

we know that it's been biased we know that it's based on racism and now is the time to show if we progress or not as progress been made welcome we saw the service go to jail it's great corporations say we love life people it's good that politicians say we're going to stand by black people but if eric shopping is a bit of murder any proceedings there will i mean everything remains the same nothing has changed all or all of the riots all the tears all the pain not the shades the america is still the same race is placed it's always been this is a true test. now i don't want to litigate it right now but i mean we can think of how drove ins lawyers are going to be arguing the case already prejudiced $27000000.00 settlement between minnesota during the family i mean he was on drugs found in the elementary amphetamine and and if it was

a fixation then he had coronavirus. well let's see about 8 years i don't law school let me go to my lawyer right oh oh. there was molise use intent there you have a man who is screaming for help saying that i can't agree that it's past the point of resisting you have spectators saying please stop please help him he can't breathe and that individual continues to place pressure on his black one is sort of a struct in his airways even after all of these cries for help were made there was a complete indifference to your sort of life and that's extremely problematic if he was on drugs if he was suffering from some sort of cygnus then that officer in any civilized society you have the duty to get that

person help that officer should have had the training that would have taught him to to disengage if somebody is in medical distress but you didn't see that that was or ignored common sense he ignored his civic duty he ignored the polls that he took to the state of minnesota and. into de. into the constitution of united states of america he ignored all of that in continue with an action because someone sticks there was malice there one many too many 3 minutes ok it's a little shaky but you should've got off the net time 6 minutes 7 minutes you're overdoing it it's time to disengage but not minutes of pressure on a person who can't believe that is that is malicious intent is never cut and dry

when it comes down to police killing black people and i could take you back through the history of policing in america they started after slavery as a fugitive slave troll in every realistic piece of research that you'll find will show you that policing in. is fundamentally flawed and has been released has been racist since its inception where is the honor in replacing him police and you can't find a police station across anywhere in america doesn't have we're on for somewhere in the honorable thing to do would be for derek show going to say i killed this man i'm sorry i threw myself on a mercy of the court but no he won't do that if you will not do that he will get up on that stand in line if they put him on the stand other officers will lie to protect themselves and protect him and it will be a farce when if there were still there was any honor in policing this me i would

say i did it and i'm sorry and that would be the end of the story be able to move past this with him serving but your sins but that's not the world we live in well as you know any malicious attent will be denied and perhaps there will be some emphasis on the fact that that alone the coronavirus they found fenton elemental unfasten in his body is that something convenient about that in terms of black tropes about drugs and narcotics in the united states well. drugs are a sickness. drug use is a sickness it's an addiction. it's commonly found in impoverished people it's found in people who suffer from mental health drug use is common in black communities and white communities it's just pressing so fine of poor people a poor person was on drugs shouldn't be a surprise to him and i'll let you know that we work with the governor called post

office now entrenched in where are marking mire governor cuomo we were in his office shortly after george floyd dirt george floyd murder to pass the andrew pierce act and who care for the man who was set in the back of a police car in scream for help a 17 minute yes for medical assistance 70 times and that officer let him die we just passed legislation in new york to address this is this is either wait you look at this there was a dereliction of duty it led to someone's death you will or the series there of the officer should tap that man on his shoulder 'd and say you know take it easy on him you seen essence of your choice you seen always are doing things they weren't supposed to do and other officers intervene and say take it easy why wasn't president people always talk about good police we're always the good police when

george 4 was killed we're the good police wing eric garner was killed why wasn't it anyone who intervened to save a life i mean is it is it is the as you know has this mission that it is institutional i should say that though andrew cuomo denies the sexual harassment allegations and then your involvement some kind of initiative also in new york about getting a police justice absolutely we have a very strategic form of activism. we fight in the streets there lot of protests but we also fight in the halls justice not in the last 5 years since our inception we've passed 5 he's the legislation there's a bill being introduced in new york city council call the power act basically here in new york where little lisa officer received receives a complaint from a civilian that goes to the civilian complaint review board however the members of

this war are appointed by the mayor the politicians and the police commissioner 60 percent of the times when they found that there was a wrongdoing in it elevated it to the highest level of education which is the police commissioner 60 percent of the time the police commissioner say that there was no wrongdoing there is no power in this organization so what we've been advocating for is are so let that civilian complaint war where people were running for the seats they don't receive money is well i'm sorry but they run in district in district 40 seats and by giving this power to the people to evaluate these cases in taking the power from the government we feel as though we'll be one step closer to justice and one step closer to the abolition of police on the numerous supreme court judgment that actually they are independent these a different board just by being appointed in the way that they use and yes i've got to ask given that these are problems faced in many countries countries that may be

condemning ones having him in but you know thousands of our engine in the gene asia on protests in france we have a huge debate here over racism in the police force and sexism in the police was ironic that it's joe biden presiding over all these initiatives all these trials like the one today given that he is one of the architects of mass incarceration condemned to right around the world who he looks like the deliberate attempt to incarcerate people of color in. united states millions of them this country was founded on racism it runs on this capitalist engine and at the bottom of that has to be some poor group that is still touring money to the rich and these 4 groups mostly charter majority of them are black people so america's in genius in coming up with new ways to oppress black people which leads us to joe biden

a lot of people with think just because we are very left leaning in our views there we love the democratic party i don't see that much rick difference between the democrats and the republicans they are both prostitutes of sorts to the rich into corporations and they impose the will of corporations on the people and not the will of the people so you have job by being who talked about black planets matter so much on the campaign trail but hasn't spoken to a victim of black of police violence since he was inaugurated there's been other cases they've been people who are dying in jail they've been people who were murdered brutalized by the police in a don't address them so it's all an act of sorts right to manipulate minds of the american public i mean by also been talking about how dumb is he by the bombed syria people of color bombed with

a usa weapons within days are taking office i want to hear just to finally about your peace officers initiative launching on the day all the mudda all the killing of george floyd on the 25th the may seem to sink you sink you so much we are launched an initiative called black ops where we're pretty much saying we've given up on the government and we're going to launch sites and initially and houston and the bronx followed by lance were. here we are wrecked sites that teach our people about health book of the number one killers of black people is what we put in amalfi. in our you know heart disease diabetes education we black lives matter bring you up have open the montessori school in the bronx one of course dishing districts in a country we're going to educate people on their proper issue that goes beyond slavery that goes back to africa where black folks created arithmetic mean don't we

all an engineer egypt really want to build something it's beautiful that's how does it have been when americans do that black americans do that white supremacists come in tear those things down and in addition people like us they tend to try to kill so i want to make sure that my team knows how to use weapons no self sensory to protect himself and leslie black economics black people have one trillion dollars in our and our dollars circulate in our communities at the lowest rate of any other community you're talking about jewish people jewish communities asians whatever so we want to teach black people how to do business with each other i believe that we can grow independent of the government i am not a big proponent of people being on welfare for generations i think that people should be taught to fish that way today they can feed themselves and i'm fat in their families so this is something that's a blessing it's

a natural progression of the black classmate and movement we've done a lot of work in waking up the world but now it's time to go into our communities and improve the lives of up people and not wait for the government to help us with anything because we know that this government does not care about black people i don't care if donald trump is in office i don't care bill clinton is in office i don't care if joe biden is in office and i say leslie about law and politics i've been a political consultant. 15 years we were the 1st dorce alexandria courtships we are well versed in politics we know how to break camp any we want to teach people how to do we also want to teach our people about the law you may change the supreme court earlier in a lot of people saying to the supreme court is a frame to black people but i sure you cases at a rate that maybe 5 or 10 to one with the. supreme court gets treated just

outright racist behavior so we want to raise lawyers we want to raise our old politicians we want to just keep things in the house like they were before desegregation i want something this is not the great anyone else wants who last year people all knew some thank you after the break we'll be speaking to the avengers endgame in the great actor frank grillo about the rise of political cinema in the wake of covered 19. was a pandemic nelson you know blood is just delighted to melodies. has a little to be we don't look like see the whole world to.

judge a. comedy crisis like this and until. we can do better we should. everyone is contributing each of our own way but we also know that this crisis will not go on forever the challenges created with the response has been met so many good people are helping us. it makes us feel very proud that we are in it together. so what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy to confront a ship in flight it be an arms race based on off and spearing dramatic development only i'm going to resist i don't see how that strategy will be successful very critical time time to sit down and talk.

welcome back today marks another step on the u.k. so-called road map out of coronavirus lockdown 6 months to the day that global covert 1000 deaths reached 1000000 ofter a year that looked like a dystopian only wood film could commercial cinema amounting to a golden age though of less commercial more political analytical cinema going underground would you have the charlie cook would help with a vengeance endgame in the great actor frank grillo whose new project deals with the crisis of u.s. health care will continue. to be a fresh start for. 2008 every health care provider needs to cover substance abuse treatment this is what we treat street. frank thanks so much for coming on the story to start by telling me about your new film body breakers and body brokers is a true story. based on. this scam that that in the eighty's and ninety's and that you thousands in the in the we have

industry where people would go out and find. attics and solicit them and then recruit them and then one of the insurance companies. through these people and they were called by us and actually my father was a victim of that my father gantry out in the late ninety's and. they found him in new york they put him on a 1st class flight to san diego in san diego from the upper. he took them a little easy to a facility he was there for 90 days and what i learned is it was about $1500000.00 charge to the insurance company. of which may be $60000.00 was legit so did the movies based on on this whole scam that went on in this business for a long time they go to treatment you get

a kick back and they get a piece of that it. is capitalism the film centers around the affordable care act and on your car it's a kind of bookends the movie is that how do you research the film by looking into your father's experience or did you research kind of the more and the intricacies of it you know the reality is i didn't really i really didn't understand what we were all we would always go like what was that about how did how did daddy get to san diego on a 1st class flight like even my mother's insurance she's a school teacher and we never knew we never figured it out and that's how i learned what it was because san diego was one of the main hopes of the whole thing. and so i love the story i love john's one of the director i thought it was you know a great piece of material and i got to play like a bad 20 rockets it's not easy to ask for help it's not easy at all in fact i think it's one of the toughest things in life to do. a lot of you have composed dying

while some of you have been brought back from the day and that isn't fair is serious. pardon my language. 15 years ago i raised my hand and i said i'm done. i am done i can't do this anymore i'm sick i'd rather be dead that's why i know exactly what it feels like to sit right there or there or there i know it. that's why it is the greatest privilege in my life to think that i have the chance to help you change yours. we are a family all right today's my favorite do you know why today's the day that we get together once a month and we celebrate the milestones that you've achieved because every minute

so over. is a minute one. i could use tell me about the next project you're working on with him as well. well i got another movie we haven't finished it's called i do read which is kind of again a little bit of an oklahoma gangster story and myself and josh hartnett that we play we play relatives and the melissa leo plays i do read again loosely based on a true story and she basically was a fixer among the different games in the in the midwest and so it's a kind of an action thriller and joshua nebulously are amazing in it and so i did that and then we have another movie with john schwab i'm going to do called the heart of dixie and that is in a month and be going in a month with him for a 3rd time i love him he's great to

a great director he'll he's going to want career i want to get to as many of your project as possible if they forgive me if i move on but i thought about no man's land because that's another film that fails particularly timely at the moment if you just tell me that about yeah that came out last month and it really it really has done very well to young filmmakers jane connor allen wrote the script and con around directed it jake was a star again sure story of about just this place on the. on the on the panhandle on the border of texas and mexico there is a strip of land that they call no man's land because it isn't really governed by the united states and it is it mexico and these people these foreigners who live there are kind of caught in between this no man's land you actually if you're an american citizen you need to have your passport when you travel through the border . and it's about this family's plight of losing their their farm slowly because

of because of what they call coyotes 'd coming in and stealing smuggling drugs and it's about these 2 families who lose some. very special and you know in the end you realize that we're all the same and we're all trying to do the same thing and be happy and safe and you know keep our kids keep our kids educated and healthy and you know it's a story of humanity norco 6 month term on probably every day. trucks incumbents topicality. saving the sinner this is our home. i don't know lives that were just posted by warner brothers argue over you know. you are going to do i don't know. but i want. these projects body break because the no man's land and even the pods from their own films the kind of carry

a strong political and timely message how do you pick these projects needed to really go one of the kind of speak to the modern time we haven't yet you know it's interesting i get a bunch of movies that come my way and some of them are just supporting roles most of them are supporting roles and i try to find the ones that speak to me that you know that say something or you know it's an egregious action and i just will get to have fun enough to meet but whatever i do it's always show i do it's always for a specific reason it's not just you go to work. there were the supporting growth if i do prefer that they give you more flexibility more choice in choosing rove yeah i love it i love being a supporting character you know it's kind of how i made my bones my entire career and you know i love serving the script and and working with other actors so i guess what it's also fun to be the leading guy to you know it's

depending on the piece. i'm game to do anything yeah i want to see ask about flavell because i understand it was made by your production company war party that's yes yes my my partner nigel carnahan who made movies like the grey and smokin aces and mark. we have a production company called war party this was our 6th film that we made. we've been trying to take years to get it made and was finally able to get it meet and it isn't over the top 80. style action thriller it's an r. rated you know those 80 s. r. rated action comedies do you advise others in some of their sense to start their own production companies to find it and eyes are going to cut through the hollywood as the would say you know if you're in a position you know joe and i are made on both sides in this business the hard way and we and we found that taking control of our careers together. we were for

minimal force and so i think it's a great idea if if you really want to do this and you don't want to sit by the telephone waiting for something to happen you know you can go make a movie now and i feel you really can't and there's no excuses not to do it so i'd rather you know we were in complete control of ourselves you know look if i get offered a big studio movie it's something to think about but i'm much happier just making movies with joe carnahan and and or these little films and you know going to lend my my services for the. while i'm completely satisfied but if that was an excuse to not make a film i'd be coronavirus but it doesn't seem to actually stop you from making movies though your new film copshop you want to doctors without borders how does that work trying to make a film during a pandemic like this yes it was interesting we hired a group of doctors without borders we created a protocol they created a protocol which we were one of the 1st production companies to do it and it

cost an a astronomical amount of money added to the budget but we had $1.00 case of coded in a 2 month period and we were able to execute a film that's that's called cautioned me and jerry butler and joe directed it and you know look i think the silver lining inside of the code it is that we need a movie for more efficiently so in the end it's good and some aspects it was even better making the movie that way imagine the budget and 'd you obviously are now in the business i am of the production company how do you do you optimistic about post coronavirus recovery in the film industry i do i do i think big you know the panic of it all is settled and i think there's enough things out there being done at a high level even when coding does come into play on a sector now we understand how to handle labor you don't necessarily need to shut an entire movie down so i think what's happening is more and more the finance

c.e.o.'s and the banks and studios you know understand it's not a catastrophe but it's something that we need now to build into making movies that's all we have to we have to be really aware of coronavirus and you feel. the about these films going on demand to support more films going on demand directly robin going to send off yeah i mean you know look right now i mean i don't know about where you are but cinemas are really slow to open people are little by little getting back in there i don't know when this in the experience is going to. return to the levels that it was it should ever just and i think what we're seeing is companies like hulu which is pretty out. boss level and netflix and h.b.o. max all these companies are state and movie and it's you know these it is a plethora of movies that would have never gone eater's because of cold readings and we're getting to watch that and you were getting used to watch. on the street

no man's land body broca's is going to have felt like it was a little on hulu it's in the theaters around the world but on hulu in north america and you know i got a bunch of stuff coming out i don't know the dates it means bodyguard to a couple of other movies but i don't know that geisha has a cult so we'll get back and talk again now i would love about frank and i thank you so much yeah my pleasure thank you for speaking to going underground deputy editor jolly pope there will be back on wednesday until then keep in touch why would i say show me. humanity has never seen such strange natural phenomena before giant cletus appearing in the young mt peninsula. one after another. but never about the

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