aerated the punishment is being removed from society removed from all of your belongings your. loves and being and serving out a period of time where you're away from everyone in prison itself should not be punitive in nature the idea of going to prison that removal from life that is is the punishment for her for the different transgressions that result in incarceration robert blake lewis or a prison isn't used that much these days are a failure can carry the united states they say correctional facilities or question officers etc where do we get this idea that prison can correct people and what exactly it is supposed to correct. i think when you look at the corrective nature the rehabilitative nature of prison i think every prison service wants to be rehabilitated in make sure i think that's an underpinning prison in the east in canada correctional services are very much they flush away in terms of what they

offer based on basically whoever is governing who who have or is in whoever government is is in power so we'll see if we haven't for example in the past under the conservative harper government a vast change in prisons relative funding was cut programming was cut but then in the more liberal government we will see more benefits and more programs being. presenter just reinstated in the institutions so we do see that sort of change. and as that answers your question there. yes or no footprints break more are very they're not those who spent long term in prison i don't know if it's a terrier's or something have a hard time going back to normal life. is there any contradiction between having a goal to correct antisocial behavior and then in order to do crowd people. other

antisocial people farriers america i mean who would be able to learn anything about normal life in this circumstances well and that's one of the big challenges so present a most turns more most terms inside basically is if you get sentenced to 10 years for example you're eligible for parole in canada after 30 the sentence after sues or is it statutory really soon i'm in the majority of people are not going away for these extensive periods of time which then begs the question why are we incarcerated is a man's only going away for a couple months or couple weeks at a time eccentric we're removing them for life but we're not not doing anything they're not going to it is not a period of time or there can be treating her interventions or rehabilitation because it's so short many of our individuals who do go away for longer periods of time and the idea is to be corrected but i think that's a fallacy in our institutions because it when you're confining anyone in these long term living circumstances it is really difficult to implement programming into work

with people towards change to recall that prisoners and their complex needs many have very complex needs we see brain injuries we see mental disorders of personality the events accent your addiction there's a variety of other there's a full scale of needs that have to be addressed as well for people to successfully means a great sin the prison itself and the challenge with the president is how does it need these and these directives. well i mean research is there is a life care in the end often lead to negative personal changes for instance emotional numbing in a video interview if you trust others i haven't heard this term prison if prison ization. there isn't really an a hearse or a she insists and doesn't lead to these attacks but is in. prison and isolation is a very it will turn him who is condemned 933 by conner and it was the idea that you get social. into the prison understanding and the reality is an end and basically

in the informal cultures that govern prison lakas prison is a society within itself in all in all forms is between the stuff in the crash and all of that the correctional officers working there in the treatment stuff and everyone in their class the prisoners it creates its own it's got its own social structures in sonder paintings built the for money in burma very much like what you would see in society. in the reality is that the structure itself as much as it's intended for rehabilitation isn't designed in a way that allows people the opportunities to meaning in the treatment turn agent processes that they require in order to move forward and regenerate in a in a positive manner so there seems to be a disconnect between the objectives of the institution and what actually comes from it and he does this enough in changing personalities and i've had many people tell me that in their presentation of stop well inside where there's an obligation or an interest in presenting as tough that be arms over time in marines in them and they

tend to have a different type of person a different type of presentation of the time it is only for individuals who have spent a long periods of time incarcerated we tend to see changes in behavior is and you see the market in prison it on those individuals from a lot of eye contact to one of the a.n.c. can even tell because dental care is very poor in institutions misting hannah so you can see markings in different way on individuals but then it also going right over here here in for instance if prison invasion especially people are changing very bad environment what stops them from reacting to normal life when you're out. well i think everyone tries to that is exceptionally difficult and once released. it in there's a break in your comment in front of city and many people have never been in the labor market prior to their incarceration especially people who go in interviews thinking what that means to going in and your early adulthood those are one of the appendices needs main opportunities to learn skills are happening in society so

they're removed from match people who do have skills those skills can where because not. one in prison still makes reentry increasingly difficult social networks and other thing they did tweet one a person is in prison they don't have the same connections in the outside world and many times during re-entry you can't connect with other persons who have been incarcerated or have a criminal record as as a condition of your release so we see a variety of factors that impact individual answer that they're not sent out for 6 sas post release as a result whereas the statistics show that longer and her sure sentences greater personality changes in prisoners and increased the risk of actually then turning to crime again so we have there are actually completely correct. i've seen many persons who go in have longer sentences when it comes to mind when they know a lot of people are aging of criminality the way that we see aging and happening

are the time of the monies and among older individuals and i wouldn't say that a long prison term will generally be tied to a guest as our share. very even a harsher prison term and wouldn't actually affiliate with a higher chance of recidivism i haven't seen stats that i'm actually makes that correlation that specifically re because i've while i was they were searched for this and should be made him across. one of the statistics it may not be true so there may be thing that on one hand are really bad actions cause for severe punishment and it should in those justice but there is severe punishment leaves very little chance for a true every location of the s. under it is my question leading up to whatever seems what is still the priority for a prison system i mean right now it's keeping coded into the institutions to be honest but i think the priority wants to be in many cases they want to be

rehabilitated they want to provide a venue or a space in which people can recognize the consequences of their actions and then move forward in ways that are pro-social it's just that's not the actual case of what tends to happen and then obviously there's the public reaction rate because if the prison system starts to truly care about the rehabilitation of criminals there's a what will the public say because we have someone does something horrific and then we leave them hot soup invariably for taxpayers money surely most societies when agree to that. i think it. i think that's the biggest challenge like the piano practice in any country or any space is very reflective of how the public views individuals so if you're living in a society that now lies as individuals who are and ensures that criminalized persons remain clear a lot of it's very difficult to create

a supportive environment for reentry and that's one of the things they are looking at a person who commits a crime are we taking it over and we don't look at the context of the situation everything else happening that you don't have any ability to blend as a society that is going to be a barrier to their reentry they're not going to have opportunities they're going to be limited in who they can interact and it's going to increase in the challenging those who are going to take a short break right now when we come back we'll continue talking about where the gun is friends currently in place actually make society safer talking to a brother richard ayoade who logic ordinator moral universe 11 years old and a sociopath scientific director of the canadian institute of public safety research in treatment stating this.

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the more the university of. new research and treatment we're talking about whether it's currently in place actually made. better. continue or why. since we're trying to understand whether presidents are or should be or 2 for retribution or reputation isn't the idea of reputation of a criminal in itself a bit forward an issue of the perpetrators is in the victim here right so really they're not or of needing reputation are they well. i think if i fear you correctly as you're saying when they look at the perpetrator of a criminal act or how to get the sympathy for being that person is also

a victim in written need of rehabilitation and the reality is when you look at prisoners and a colleague of mine is doing research and in our in alberta bronzer she found that upwards beyond 90 percent of the persons incarcerated experience it 1st chance in events if you look at their meeting condition i guess the health condition imagine persons who are incarcerated or addresses in its brain injuries so they have an individual with a brain injury that is led in and it's tied to their criminality i think society has to recognize that it's much more complex it will be haters are not necessarily reflective of what they want to do they are not in there and intent many times they are there moments and weakened if we can do more for these individuals to be preventative future incidents i think a society will benefit because they can be law abiding citizens who are contributing to the labor market and the economy. rare i mean reputation someone who got lost committed a crime one scenario out of desperation sounds very compassionate but you know

a lot of people who end up in prison are not interested in becoming better and what i mean is that like i hear you when you say you know when you look at this into this people's history like you usually see that you know they don't have good childhood and they have you know problems growing up but then a lot of people who have problems in childhood and growing up but they don't end up in criminals you know what i mean so yes so at that a lot of people my point is like they're just not interested in becoming better and the state has basically given them away from us from a cynical realistic point of view and i'm playing devil's advocate here isn't it like too naive to think that you know hardened criminals will sincerely change you say treat them nice. i believe everyone has the potential for to systems and it's not just a maturing rakhine really are and are being as it is that lens of understanding that allows us to understand what are the sort of risk factors in preventive

factors around an individual's cannot behaviors and how do we see and of course is a person in this i see this all the time i am not an abolitionist i don't believe in abolishing prisons i believe that we should change the form function of prison but there are certain individuals who do need to remain in prison because they pose a risk to our society but they wrestle at their smaller number than what we have in our institutions now and there comes a time i've talked to many what you would call a hardened criminal who over a period of time get to a point where they're not interested in that lifestyle anymore and that's where the punish and the ability to change comes from not everyone's going to be ready right away in a short sentence someone being put inside for 2 months what's that really going to do it's not it's not savings it's spending taxpayer dollars they're not getting treatment is not even long enough for a treatment program so what are the what are we doing by that kind of incarceration then of course like we also have. prisons like in norway if you have

a maximum security joint it looks more like and i lowkey hotel rather than if risen and inmates have privacy and are allowed to make in sterry their own food etc. you say you look at brave a killer who's committed one of the most horrific crimes and he's you know regular quietly raise many festivals our prison putting them hurt internet and the maximum prison sentence in norway is every 21 years and it has the lowest reaffirming rate in the world do you think maybe norway way is a bad scenario for prisoners elsewhere. any the new legion this is in the region prisons are nearly still has maxim's occur. the institutions or all of their institutions are sort of the image of the nourishing prison that we see they still maxence to max and secure institutions that are you know cell phones in bars and

everything else they also have a market as norway's as a society is also more in grace of persons and recognizes that it's in that society has a role in the actions underpinning anality and is more receptive to persons during re-entry there and vantages and really great things in the narry gin system so there's also downfalls there's debt that presently prison with debt there's a lot of focus on the reentry processes and they have high sentencing rates in the less community sentences like there are challenges with that system as well it's not as exceptional as perhaps it's presented it will be at the canadian system our minimum security federal institutions and new premier in advance there are mentioned townhouses. so it's a very and i've had people tell me that in movement from a muslim to median to a minimum is at that median where the security is gone and they don't have the same threat in and risk for it to my nation and they're actually able to come to terms

and deal with the incidents that resulted in our parser asian there's a lot of anxiety and hard feelings that are married and they're able to actually take the time to deal with that are their sentencing and experiences are in their own countries like mary states and there is the pain in their their death sentence or who are in someone who are if your ally are needed for deterring serious criminals doing it to go out point. i don't think prison is a deterrent in any way and i think the religious supports that it's not the other thing that i don't question there is is an individual committed a crime so he's taken individual community crime and trauma. in 20 years later when that individual is 40 are you still punishing the person who committed the crime or is the person being punished for something that they were a completely different person at the time one doesn't expire one is a person's actions no longer what we need to judge them for on an everyday basis so

that if we think of ourselves like in the back to things i did in my twenty's i would want known for that in our twenty's in an inner teens in allan's in time circumstances can evolve and with prisoners with any criminals person that one out determines who they are moving forward and the holmes is going to commit a crime at 20 and they can be $65.00 and we still look at them as the as that 20 year old who committed acts. who doesn't expire what is the what is the process one can a person it and i are sure change. i know that the consequences of committing the crime will be soft that i'm not in real danger would there be more previous posts actually going through the crime. the search does suggest that deterrence that that punishments like that don't don't serve as deterrents because the enemy is most people don't view themselves as following in that trajectory and most crimes are not planned of intent. you know the beer and protest sort of thrift new

wife into the prison opposition movement and you said you don't believe in their career but the movement main goal is to final turn is jim prison 1000000 punishment what could a layman i really hope the movement's goals of finding alternatives to punishment and not just punishment alternatives to the whole carswell entity i just would not advocate for the pure abolition prisons the one. we are the single one meal it could be alternatives be realistically speaking there's a lot we can do with the parser ation there's a lot we can do with not holding people in prison he did not commit violent offenses and don't pose a threat to society he can release them and has been in different contexts is no need for like intermittent sentences people who research weekends beginning in society all week why they need to be in prison on weekends and there's other types of monitors a lot of front and back and sentencing that can be done from 10 being like released on released on bail the turn it is an entire punitive system of treatment courts

angle to treatment programs instead and in our survey sion it you know there's a variety of different structures in place that we can lose instead of turn towards imprisonment and then are bad and people do serve time in prison we need to do want to invest in their reintegration and that includes investing in the person supporting their reintegration so that they have the. capability as an er in a state where they're in will to do that we think with the needed resources. and also . criminal behavior is often written power to abuse in childhood like you've heard of or kinds of things taking in this era can there even be a concept of justice that does not revolve around retribution. and i i didn't issue a little bit with this in the time between poverty ending our suroosh and

criminality is one of the things is there are many people who live in degrees of ari who don't turn to crime and there are many very affluent white collar crime is a huge huge portion of what my absence but he is nonviolent so doesn't result in the saying let the prison sentences so anything any gets complicated to make those kind of on correlations i think you have to be a bit cautious in doing that because it's email get better who actually talk to people and hear their stories of what resulted in a in behavior you know sometimes it's just less style and it's cyclical it can be learned other times it can be something that happens an event or in the mood to motions in and certain things there's a lot of different reasons that people who gauge and and i think if we try to overly dramatic correlation between poverty and crime don't see the bigger picture and also falsely paints individuals who are experiencing poverty as susceptible to

criminality and i didn't think that's the case but the question was do you think there can ever be another concept of justice death doesn't necessarily revolve around retribution or is retribution the only concept of justice if i have all. i think there is and i think the restorative justice practices show you let me don't need. don't need retribution in order to justice so restorative practices even that that notion of going together based on an offender for mediation. it provides a different space in law in order to look at how the new forage and i think these kinds of alternatives will release are people well because i don't think most people want to see persons being tracked penalized for a specific action. but it has to be it's complicated because with prisons you have to balance the needs and the desires of the victims in nature that didn't recognize they also to look at the person who did the ending and figure out you know what's

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