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in the world and i didn't know what was going on and for day driving home i was like ok well you know what can i do differently. and about 4 weeks it later he shared with me that taken himself off the medication. when i was a huge relief to me to all k. it's not me but. yeah it just became short and irritable and he wasn't positive anymore everything was negative i was totally dysfunctional and began experiencing this well call this a rational terror like level of anxiety that i had never previously experienced might come home from work and i found him on the kitchen floor and involved just sobbing and rocking didn't want anybody to touch him anywhere near him. he'd go you find a place to go hide in the house in just. sobbing uncontrollably it's really really
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hard to see got to a point full sail refused to consume any more drugs and that kind of came to a head several months ago. and that's why right now we're separated the breaking point for me to say about there was there was a couple of things of the mindset that it's just going to take time and there's nothing that you can do you know here's what the options that i see they are mostly medical based and he. absolutely refused to explain my entire background my psychiatrist look i took pride in being in the navy i took pride in surviving and making it through mighty high hopes to to do good things for the navy and for the country and now i don't know who i am and the only thing that's happened between then and now is i've been exposed to a series of very strong psychiatric medications. and the answer after 20 minutes was well i can give you
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a prescription for cymbalta. it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's when i did move out and he called me and said that he was standing in a basement next to a noose and i said and what's your safety plan and. he said to call you and i said see if you plan you need to hang up and comment on one. and. having to tell him that. it feels callous to me when you're going through withdrawal psychiatric drugs the best thing is to kind of get back. off that ledge. and just say dave just give yours give yourself more time. give yourself more time get in your fight for it. you know and some day you know you'll regain a sense of normalcy in your day to day life.
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typically we find that the withdrawal phenomenon is the opposite of whatever the drug does if the intention of the drug is to help somebody be more relaxed or help them fall asleep then when they're experiencing withdrawal what they will experience is anxiety restlessness and insomnia they may even get so bad that they you know are profoundly depressed and consider suicide the withdrawal symptoms can often be much worse than the original problems the person came with and the withdrawal is very very difficult sometimes quite dangerous may take months or years to really be accomplished people jumping out of their skin feeling terrific anxiety having all sorts of physiological symptoms that are difficult to bear people cannot stop this medicine except in the slowest possible way for a very gradual reduction in those. in the.
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cell this hell of what my pills. i'm doing here a 10 percent taper 'd so take the pill. a way it. so whole pill that 2 milligrams weighs 0.15. 910 percent and that you don't want to take off too much because even with the waste the pills. so it's almost there actually that's 10 percent in the 1st time i tapered i didn't have my scale as yet so i was just eyeballing because i was determined to get off your body will tell you if your hand in the cuts based on symptoms so it took me a while to get from 2 to 1.6 was 1.64 that's all i could go to this group has are most. 2300 members people
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just post stuff how's everyone doing today and see i'm in a strange window today updos for almost 2 days of doses when you're at a certain dose and the symptoms get really bad so you go back to the original dose where you weren't feeling so bad everyone has a unique stuff running through you know 2 persons are like i have brain zap i have tremors i had severe night sweats i have a symptom where it feels like things are crawling inside my body just movin and i came across this image and i was like wow that's exactly out as exactly how it is nobody understands this and if you don't have support you will lose yourself i have been a part of these groups since august of last year and since august of last year we lost 3 people to suicide in my support groups 3
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we lost a 50 something year old woman who was dr coulter get her off of clonopin and she's suffered she has 2 little boys and she walked in front of a train because she couldn't deal with it anymore about a month ago we lost a 40 something year old guy. he shot himself in the head. louis. blew his head off. so we're losing people in this fight i think about it all the time what if my symptoms get to the point where i can't make it. what am i going to do. let's go back to the start of this disease model in the 1980 s. ok now the 1st drug that was tested in this new era was san excel preselect them for panic disorder and here was the study they conducted they compared exam expresses a placebo group and the primary outcome measure was the number of panic attacks on
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average per week and after 4 weeks 7 x. was doing better fewer panic attacks and 8 weeks that xanax patients were doing no better than placebo and then at the end of 14 weeks that xanax patients were doing worse than they were at the beginning and much much worse then the placebo patients the trial told of harm done it told the people who were going to get addicted when they came off they'd have so all sorts of withdrawal symptoms and some people unable to get off ok that's what the study showed what did they report they didn't report the 8 week results they focused on the 4 week results because that was a story that told of an effective new treatment for panic disorder and completely hid the 14 week results pretty soon exam expecting one of the best selling drugs in the country it is still prescribe left and right and what they did we have in the early eighty's a story of science that told of harm done the longer you take a study out the more likely you are to see people not doing well on that drug raid
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or developing side effects from that drug so the pharmaceutical industry doesn't favor long term studies for monetary reasons and for outcome reasons they don't want to show that their drug actually doesn't do well the gorilla in the room is the pharmaceutical industry. the drug companies spend something like $80000000000.00 a year on marketing and lobbying they spend much much less on research and most of the research they do is really a tool of marketing there's a is as much marketing. in the tests that are devised to measure the outcomes in the investigators that are hired to conduct the study all of that stuff is marketing but it's presented and manufactured and published science so here's how it's done and how it was done the pharmaceutical companies funneled all sorts of money to what are called we're academics psychiatry's a prestigious american university harvard stanford johns options and those academic
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psychiatry's began working for the drug companies as consultants serving as their speakers advisors that center you would start with a clinical study of the drug but who is designing the study the pharmaceutical companies they know how to design it to make their drugs look good that's step one who then analyzes the data well their own people doing it's done by the drug companies themselves. 3rd then who writes the papers it's actually ghostwriters hired by the drug companies to write up the study. they've now present this study to the people that they want to be the big names of the study and then those thought leaders basically sign off on the ghost written papers and they become quote the authors of the published paper. the former editors of the medical journals like jama and new england journal of medicine and b.m.j. british medical journal they've all said that they basically we became vehicles for story laundering it was a corrupted creation evidence but he's. now i'm
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a practicing doctor in some town what am i going to believe what i want to believe you know. mr dr bigwig at harvard university that this is the best science so mild legation is to use the very drug they say is so great so for example prozac prozac can really work in the trials prozac had all sorts of adverse effects and those of us who are old enough to remember when prozac came to market it was the drug itself was on the cover of magazines. our powers are such now that we can give you whatever personality you want that's how great our knowledge is advancing that was the story told what did science tell us you know what they found in the 19 $170.00 s. for the 1st studies done in germany where they see all sorts of psychotic advance worsening of depression homicidal or suicidal impulses so much that the german authorities said this is a dangerous drug we're not going to approve it and now go read the studies that
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were reported by the americans the psychosis is gone the homicidal problems are gone imagine your mother and i know mothers who said to their kid who got depressed over breaking up with a girl or something like that the doctor says oh prozac doesn't increase suicide risk and then a week later that kid hangs himself that's in a real case. can you think of any worse you have an expression in america torture your data until they confess and this happens all the time the difference between an honest data analysis and one you have manipulated can be worst billions on the world market so what do you think they will do. 'd
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great. big blue. dome where to gain. market. share i'm now still nowhere near the person i was but this is explain it's my wife like i know i love her i know i can remember i can recall the feelings in the sensations when we met and we dated we got married. but i don't feel love at all feel love for her i don't feel love for my dog at all feel love or connection i mean it's almost i don't feel. for other people's concerns or feelings or emotions and i think that's multifaceted things partly but drugs i think partly brought on by the severe trauma of going through the experience.
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in the world corrupted you need to descend. to join us in the depths. or a maybe in the shallows. and in another one of the month on the way to go through the food. bank itself mukti about. closing this way down to dog it so hard not to think i don't have the discipline to see the look of a coward and an optimist thought that if. this is the only thing that we do is music because everybody fights in his own way.
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the floor luke and the 50 pound is worthless woody and ron paul will give it a tough look at that. but i think it is this is the fans that is a constant. i don't know why. your family hasn't necessarily understood why chosen to come back and stay and you know because that relationship one of the define it was. some hurtful things yes and when you were in the absolute depths of it you were abusive and what were. burly of you yes not physically abused physically no but for believe use of i can recall telling you just got to give me time so rather you why are you so mean and
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well because we've given it time and i wasn't getting really any better and i. feel like. this certainly worked. when you said some pretty horrible things that happened so quickly after we got married i felt like it was like a bait and switch kind of deal so when you think about you trying to go to buy them for the summer. i would like to try you know i think it's going to be hard honestly what i'm most scared about i mean is that i haven't heard i'm here to support you through this. regardless of what happens. and that's. very right. ok i doesn't feel like it. because. i have been through hell with you and have held you well you've bang your
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head against the wall and this is my fear coming from the things that were said when you were in your depths and that's that you're going to say well maybe this isn't the right relationship for us now. that i put so much into right. now. or were. there really is no research on the long term impact of stimulant use but the longer you're on them the higher the dose though the more risks that you want occur over time and the less actual benefit you get from the drug. hi how are you going. to focus not as high as i would like it. it's kind of feel like i've
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reached that tolerance how long overall has it been that you've been on an interim 15 years and your dosage is as high as i've ever seen for myself but if it's just a brain normally would try adderall ok and i'm actually interested in decreasing and getting off right yeah that's what i mean you always hear and are if i were you myself i wouldn't just broke one stop on how to get around to starring as i have been did and i was not for it you could actually open the capsule and gradually day after day just take out a little bit more for. way what ray you could kind of judge here you could maybe drop the 3rd of the amount one on one for a few days take the 3rd out of the other one you know just kind of wean off there from the other hand you say definitely it's better to be on the medicine med
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stelarc brain then i would recommend trying out a roll just because it's got a little bit higher potency yeah yeah thank you i appreciate all your shit here thing else i can't feel sorry thank you very much if you are in place need a. drug raid while we're going to see the doctor or to see that doctor that put me on these drugs there's a hidden camera right here and i got some wires underneath all this. well let's assume there's the office right there. he's following the script he said i went to medical school and i'm a boy certified psychiatry and i follow everything that they say to diagnose people so basically he doesn't believe that he's doing in the movie.
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we go into this field because we want to help people but it's very difficult to know where to turn for on biased evidence on these issues the pharmaceutical industry has tremendous influence over a what doctors learn how they learn and so general lack of knowledge about the dangers of these drugs is one of the main reasons that doctors continue to prescribe it even when they're inadvertently causing their patients harm you know right before she went to medication she was just fine she was a little little depressed but she was not having psychotic episodes she was not having body tics she was not hallucinating do you think that the medication is actually the cause of this. it was as if i was asking the most or all the question the world i never got a really response it was just not worthy of their attention the more of that we
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were talking about this is who rebecca is we know our daughter we know this medication has turned her into someone else we said now we don't think she should be on medication and here's why and we read off the list of symptoms he basically said you know i think this is this is a really bad decision a huge mistake it was a reminder of the year in which by and large whatever we went down the path of this medication harmful we got no support from the psychologist that we saw not if it's not medication then you're not doing it right but we stick to our guns and this sounds very dramatic but i feel good decisions saved our daughter's life i kept thinking when she was 1st time in us that she was feeling the press that i wouldn't even have had the vocabulary to say met when i was her age so that just tells you a little bit about how pervasive this is become in our society i see children who are acting out or feeling the stress they are like the canaries in the coal
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mine you know that are basically shouting out like there is something wrong but you know i'm pretty quiet them. i got out of the hospital and took me off medication and within a few months i was i was back to normal not normal but i was my hallucinations are completely gone and what was left was the issues to begin with being fadi in the eating disorder and then we can move to focus on those because those are the problems with a real knowledge of something that i never thought that i would do during that year and even after it was like there's no way i can go to college i can't handle that but here i am i. i'm buying it and it's a paradise for someone who loves school as much as i do so i'm just kind of being a normal college student and having fun because that's what i can actually do now.
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i. was. so why did you do this for me i was just as concerned as you were about coming off the drugs and i wanted to make sure that you were in charge right you did what you felt was best but you also had the tools laid out for you the best way it is essentially exponential taper and that's what we plotted out here and what that leads to is this nice slow. decline over an extended period of time do you think it was of any value well yeah because when i did it myself i went down too quickly and. felt horrible and this gave me a clear plan with specific dates and members who through a helpful. mask can be love.
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i see glimmers of the old dave much more often than i happen several years. that's not he's not there all the time but. i want to come home now where it's before it was ok. you know it's a couple day bresson. come home but now i want to come home which is it's a good feeling it's nice to feel it again. or. so he got killed in action a month to the day after i was in iraq out so now i'm processing this grief 13
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years later which most people would say should be over it right now you know i just had to culminate with my soldiers and be like can you tell me a story again because last time i heard it i was on drugs and i didn't feel it. so i need to sit by him and think like look at this war did us and feel it. cool. cool. people.
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a dog you are me coffee to market economies or bow or to me in the present us as mean older than us and i think ultimately you know cells and of newborn babies were torn from their mothers and given away and forced adoption the only lot of money was the feast the good of my own role as a fellow mentor to this day mothers still search for grown children while adults look in hope for their birth parents. is there a litigious secretaries they'd like to his madness what are we to make of his policies towards russia china ukraine and. what comes 1st for him values interest is informed by ideology geopolitics does he believe in anything.
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which. trainee medics in france are pushed to the breaking point by the pandemic with one in turn committing suicide every 18 days on average according to a doctor's union. pharmaceutical giant pfizer the cost of its vaccine by 60 percent in the e.u. in a start at a time of severe shortages. and the czech republic accuses russia trading an explosion back in 2014 but rules out state terrorism and refuses to release any evidence.
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