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matt perry but the guy has so many credits as i am deep deep pages like you know. 800 entries and do it good guy tom lennon started out in that great comedy sketch troupe the state will pick his mind about his new young adult novel series he's got come out and all that went to collect that guy tom let out right after that dennis miller plus one. hey folks welcome to dennis miller plus one we're joined by a good irish boy this kid works as kitty stiff the icy but i'm telling you i looked at his i.m.d.b. it's like when this old julian epstein julius epstein had a kid he's an actor writer director best known for his role opposite that perry 'd in the odd couple i don't know but tom also co-wrote the global years later he.
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is a. critically acclaimed author and he's released the young adult novel series the hatless and that's a good well the saying. the latest one ronan boyle into the strange place i love that title will be available later this year please welcome to the modern tamayo and as good as your body things are really good things are really really good only get some 1st dollar points on a night at the museum my friend pleased as ready murphy so so greatly put it on our city oh please don't tell me you had net points or monkey. obvious not have to do that robots well i not only not only do we did it was a nice it was a group little world there's a funny story about that funny story about. resilience and you know about this and just like you know if you're in comedy and writing so the reason we got to write
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united museum a movie that you know changed my entire life and we've got to read the 2nd one of the course you get fired for the 3rd one it happens you're going to they're going to fire you for the 3rd one but we had written a movie for 20th century fox i'm sure you remember it called taxi with queen latifa not to mention our crown of course we got to like that well. if you wanted to make sure that jimi didn't get to be in movies for a little while thank me because i wrote taxi and so i don't know what. the taxi we all thought was going to be a big hit it was a remake of this like lucas on movie queen latifa jimmy fallon a catamaran in a car antics is album again it's like a crime caper in new york city and the movie was testing so well you know you ever been in like a focus group of a movie really tested so folks what it dial yup i'm aware of the process but no
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i haven't been but it tested well all people were going crazy who were doing the wave they couldn't get enough of this picture so then the movie came out and it basically was like one of a flop one of the worst flops ever in fact tax it was so bad in roger roger ebert made a book of his the worst film reviews of the of the films that he hated the most innocent highlights and it's called your movie sux. and it's only like 12 or 14 movie reviews but taxi a movie that i wrote is in roger ebert's worst reviews ever in his career it was like this was one of the worst and a funny story my dad gave me that book for christmas roger ebert's your movie sucks i actually had a review of a movie i wrote in it that's what it's like growing up as an irish kid. well it's just toxic all i remember i remember thinking jimmy's a charmer and i have never thing and. it was like
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a sara not clean let's eat of it just sounds like a sexier grace jones delon or something from you to a kilo. so we thought and then that of course is a turns out roger ebert said it sucked and then a fox because they decided to write taxi 2 isn't hey guess what you don't have the right to actually do it but they said if you take this children's book and museum can you turn that into something and we said oh yeah mostly probably you want to know the way i look at it is like roger ebert i know he stood astride a let's say a very shallow canal in my book criticism that any time you go from critic and go to critics can go watch what they watch when you start crowd book ciro your movie socks. today i can't imagine how easy that is to live mad i'm going to get i don't want roger ebert i thought a lot of stalemate is going to be like that it is it is pretty easy although i mean
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here's the bummer you read sometimes you read criticism there's 2 kinds of criticism you know there's a criticism that you read there like op that's just unfound they don't get me but the scarier criticisms are your criticism really. makes some good points. you make a good points there that's a criticism that's tough to get out from under yeah. well just remember roger ebert wrote beyond the valley of the dolls and if you've ever gone to a drive in and great and high score and watch that it is an absolute train wreck when he had this is that you forward and the right to review where you're sitting there row in your room being a cranked up jerk but rather you let go of the outline and head in the film his was a big hey guess what roger kesey's climbed out here fill your fill sucked there you go i will i will say now that we were ended up we wrote a screenwriting book my writing partner and i also called writing movies for on and
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profit with fun crosstown because it's not something we're writing moves for profit . we did a lot of it was so mean i think we took it on the book we said. roger ybor wrote one movie that was so bad that he spent the rest of his career trying to talk the rest of us out of writing movies somehow like that's how bad. hey listen i don't when you 1st when you 1st get out to hollywood tommy muska read sid fields book because when i was young i got out you know what they all i wanted to i remember thinking do i want to be a comedian i want to act i want to write i read said fill the screenplay which was like. the strunk and white. of film i think those are the robert mckee story there is save the cat and then there's all obviously that one and so when we wrote a screenwriting book. save the cat everybody loves save the cat and so that's one. that's the big one that everybody always looks out and so we're right screenwriting
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book and this still is a lot about the world we had written and by the time we wrote a screenwriting book we had written about 10 or 12 movies that got made and were in movie theaters like we're not talking esoteric theory. so we did a chapter in our book and we we added up all of the movies that have been written by the guys who wrote all the screenwriting books and answer for us what. like robert mckee who wrote the big one story he has a shared credit on a t.v. movie called barbie and the dream castle rihanna got that's his half of it. and we're like well you know if you had if you've never made a building you don't get to write a book about architecture ever you know like if you look at all you because you're building you made up of a building that fell down you're not like a good you're just a bearded out who doesn't know anything who's trying to tell other big so anyway my favorite thing about that is we've always been like we've always rag on robert
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mckee in our book we rag on him we're always goofing on him goofing off and. we're like gave it's green running so easy when you do it you know that kind of stuff and then i'm just i'm sure you've had this as somebody that definitely he poked and prodded in public and then there's a we're hosting the final draft awards you like and you're going to and then at this point to show you're going to get a lifetime achievement award robert mckee. and i'm like. you know oh no we've been ragging on this guy publicly we have a whole chapter in a book called robert mckee can suck it that's what the chapter is actually you can call. and i was like he's going to kill us we're going to meet i'm going to bite us on the nose he's going to know all about us it's going to read it was going to come up wrestle us to the ground as he seems like kind of bad. so we end up of course and we're backstage we take pictures of us kissing his award. and then we beat him
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while i'm sure that you haven't he's the nicest guy and what are we can i sit down now actually i really love him and he's a delight and i probably should have taken some of his classes because he seems you just seem great. yeah the thing about a showbiz economy is i always feel if you're taking shots at somebodies if those they're the way they are as a man all that stuff i couldn't face myself but showbusiness is such a narrow marsa cystic weird you step up to the plate nobody forces unit a gunpoint world but occasionally you're going to take a shot it's going to be a bit nasty and yeah i've met richard grieco once i did a joke about him i guess i know i went there late the next day yes check it out heller asking who wants to make is the nexus guy all i looked at i say you know when a little. i'm in the business of making fun of sorry brother i'm an idiot and he said yeah he's we're going to do so anyway it's just it's it's showbiz brother
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we're talking to tommy lana he's new deep in the hopeless this guy's written acted in so many parts and wrote night at the museum has he said the sequel and even one more night it's museum 3 gets whacked or gets whacked out that he had to kill shot on the 1st to trust me he's got a. novel series the latest one is called the road and boyle into the strange place which is a fab title that's why post those pubs tell me about this man i this is such ever look pretty field if you can establish a beachhead is this the 1st one or what is it users of the 3rd month so it's been. you know one of the things i was just drawn to you know it's like if you're an actor acting to break your heart of history rather than a bigger and so i don't want to write a book you know no. nothing ever came to me when i was in ireland my grandparents were marlon and i was there we go through amount moser and i was in a castle and somebody should we would have real should lead it looks like and you
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know those little sometimes you think of them as like little walking stick like look at terms going has but this is surely was when the irish couldn't carry middle weapons they got really good at fighting with sticks. i was like that's a really weird world and then i i had it up sort of color because i knew about a kid who gets recruited for the special unit care note and turn and i was like irish it's and it's and yeats and us while talks about it's the irish world at the very folk of leprechauns for cottons changelings and things like that so in it i wrote the end of writing as a series of books and i did the classic thing which is i'd read the whole 1st book was awesome nailed it went into the publisher they're like this is incredible we love it can't you ideas for us a whole series of these i said yes i do absolutely i know where this is going i could write these forever and then i wrote the 1st one and i never had another idea
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ever again i was totally just full of crap. but subsequently several years now i've finished the 2nd one finally came out which i think is better than 1st one and i just finished comes out november the 3rd one you know and it's weird you get better at anything but. the 3rd book i think finally had a let me ask is no strange place like the fugue state is a sort of like a like an on the bard of thing for kids is it some of their real world or i didn't quite make it was just talking about checkpoints and all that what is a i guess a little journal and it's fun i like loves are with maps and the books all open with a map of like where the land of where the series and leprechaun live and it's actually an exact inverse of ireland so it's a scripted place and there's like there's like a leprechaun theater district in one area and then there's the leprechaun where they make gold and shoes and buckles and stuff and it's like this sort of financial center so there's a lot and then there's like a sort of a terrifying area where unicorns makes that you can't ever go to because there's so
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. in this in the book series unicorns are basically. leprechauns greatest enemy and you know you learn in the books to the point on a unicorn is mostly to kill leprechaun so that the yelling about the books i should point out is it's not a lucky charms view of ireland and. very folk it like liber guns will steal steal your stuff especially if you have like a wine cellar they will steal booze very fast they're just terrible little weirdos who steal your stuff so that's why the hours of granite what is it we finally get to in the. in the last big book you know it was like traveling through narnia that's like the morgue or basically through order the rings it's like the morgue or it's it's where the land of the fairy folk and the land of the old irish gods basically meet and they created like a crack in reality and so it's sort of this insane it's like
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a leprechaun world are directed by salvador dali basically. they're you know if my dad had died away from left i would remind you much harder to be a pickpocket when you're a leper colony because it's like the guy off the mike up all but you got to go. we're going to work it all over his final lot of disability in the leper continuity from pickpocketing we're talking to. them probably off on the weirdest tributes are that good on an old and we'll talk a little after he's got a new book out and it's called ronan boyle into the strange place that we have available later this year and it's coming out later this year sounds like fab christmas yet and he's written so much i want to pick his brain a little about his long track and i love his approach to it he works for and also how do you get a special thanks on wet hot american summer i got to prove that with charts right after the decide that it's you know her plus what.
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they are no match worn away they lie you win the war they lie you and they tell you that they are watching are you watching they are watching. what. folks welcome back to dennis miller plus one of the shows in the us or be on in may but we're talking to tom on st patrick's that they put out so nice from the come in on this all important day for the wearing of the green tom wrote night at the museum that he's acted in so many things during 50 years on me such a young man what's your approach to ranting about sort of a michael caine thing tom i always love that they gave out the oscar for michael caine for that 2nd film a lot about them i forget what it was a good it was
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a serious film with toby what's his name michael was in the caribbean shoot shah's 18 day or something and are supposed to leave not the word large this time it's personal jaws follows them to here with their next location. and i know the quote that you're going to say because i i love this quote from michael paine you said you may not have liked joel's fool but if you saw the estate have stood it well me in the in the british countryside i think you would have liked the house quite a bit and i was like i get it i get it so some stuff. that's or if it's foul is a glass lenses on there. that paint thing was particularly profession as you've got a tumbler of a head of c.i.s. so mandate. he said say yes to everything and then you see what sticks because it's of the it that's the good i mean what a great what
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a great way to be which is just try and the weird thing is we're sitting here we remember michael came from a really an amazing sense alfie and every christopher nolan movie and all these wonderful things a man who would be king. we're not sitting here talking about just for all the weird reaction we are right now but you know you gotta do the i.r.s. and my digital comics gotta have some commerce in or i like it bad honest to gosh i'm not feigning that i always thought. good for him that he knows that his marcus made and all he does a stays a little true in the under later was proletariat roots because nobody wants to watch him go posh that would be a get a bridge too far so that's what i dig about kate is yeah he'll knock it out of the park when he's got to go up one on one against the living and sloth but left to us on the vices now get out there make the checks a good for him i'm enjoying my dad so i get a light and you can see what an agile intellect that is he's an actor writer
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director best known for his role in that odd couple with matthew perry tom co-wrote the film series night at the museum he's written a bunch of things that i like tax excuse me but it's got a novel young adult novel series the latest one is ronan boyle into the strange place which is a killer title by the way it's a new york post headline title and it will be available later this year enough to make for god sakes as i research today how do you end up what did you write one joker where young kid who were had a couple rejoinders how do you end up with a special place on white hot american summer oh well that's ok so that is an interesting story so now i know of you remember little kate so i'm part of a comedy group called the state and you might have been why you and our 1st professional job as the state ever was we were the opening act we were the 2nd under carter for dennis miller live. and why you the big
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student center and why you it was us and then sir silberman and then you because we were all certain us were old and well you don't so i came out of his comedy group called the state and out of that group. there's a weird amount of people that you would know either by face or by name but all of reno 911 came out of the state the show called writing all the guys from what hot american summer rules at stella soul and can reno so it's like every single person out of that group it was a crazy collective of all insane like alphas who were just nuts like everybody was crazy everybody was too intense and it turns out that's exactly what you need to succeed at these then so so of the state which was just an n.y.u. comic group i mean it's on the it at least i mean the state you've already wet hot american summer all those white hot movies read a novel one which we've actually been doing since the year 2000 and like that's mostly
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a state piece so we were like basically like oh we're like a collective you know we're like this. we were like it we thought we were like an angry punk band in new york in the eighty's and then now we're all these weird old that were the we're literally the establishment but so the facts on what has probably because we still you know we all drive each other crazy and state and we fight a lot i think that's why the material was usually is so good because we're never easy on each other we're actually we operate like a push each other yeah you guys you know i think i have gone quiet on that grace for pyatt that on avenue america is by everybody and that's a really big supply algonquin and you raise the fire was where did you ever actually to grace but it would poor already getting me i love great supply well right orange onions that was just as soup or louche neon onion a la and you could feel sorry to talk about. you could feel that years later you
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feel agrees but i remember i could get one now you know what the time when you think about you coming from the state i remember when i was the market us and allan friday would roll around and i knew if i didn't do a good newscast saturday 3 weeks in a row i'd have a cause try to get whacked it was like spartacus driving or schools like yup you know i got disciplined and when i see how much you right now i and i can assume that you you were able to batten down the hatches starting this covert nightmare and yet you don't seem to roddick about seizing the sword from the star you sit down in a stark put words in front of each other right. i mean i almost do it i think oh i write i was busy or during this lockdown. i don't want to look for some some types of crazy people this has been like a weird gift is a no that's not has been a lot of terrible things in the economy and it sucks and really you know but for
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a certain kind of crazy person who likes to write it like a compulsion we get as good at it really writing than actually really productive for it. i wrote a couple of pilots it's all just been really busy that although obviously i'm writing i'm also writing the the dream works animated feature of the room and will series which is in the works now so an exciting time now this and i read a quote reus said it's like that i always love that old story folks they got to write films and they say well it's not that hard if you threw a group of c's into or the room would fly privately and they'd eventually got a movie that i was i want to take that a step further and say well how weird would it be if they came out and they had penned gorillas in the mess because the chimpanzees and the growers in the nature of mortal enemies that what if they had come out and written a scam for the sigourney weaver classic relisten that's. it's a it's a it's
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a great theory i feel like you're definitely. sorry for the snake like you to have bill close always so firm in your head i don't want to sorry that much your car that's what it built up 'd we were not we were never improper people the state we were like all very well thought we were really serious actors and then when we when we started really doing stuff like we would like i mean we were so carefully scripted but if you messed up somebody else's script they would lose their mind it was like we goof around we thought we were like craftspeople of you know. of the sketches we were writing which is still some of the stupidest stuff in the world to this day it's very stupid stuff but we look at really seriously and we were never a great writer like we were you know neil simon nicholson may you read about these people and you know they were down to syllable counsel neil did not want you to change a thing and i know marty short eugene are good friends of mine and they said that
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was the joy of 2nd city to them was he so i didn't want him probably i wanted to get a perfect and that i wanted the. yeah i was very much the state was definitely the very much that you know what you know i mean us and they have to tell you what a great bread with you sometime brother one this book by nicholas legs over night well i'm going to qualify and say some people will choose not to eat after the monic play i know i'm going to say what i should go i have had a lot of that or some like because you make me laugh iest when you're out and he's an actor writer and a productive one and he's got a new young adult series out it's the latest y. and it sounds like he's doing something he did you say dream works look at you we're going to right now in writing the. i'm a i'm adapting my own book for groups for what would be a movie about talk about a slow moving ship. best case scenario and this is really good news the movie could
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come out 2024 so that would be behind me to review it and 2024 if all goes well which shows a lot of out of media. that will be wrong and boy on the baki prostate by that point for him. oh yeah you just give him the rights to the sun the sun are not. very good it will be the kids rice ball and part of the. road and blow it with a strange place will be available later this year it's there that the light lamp tommy lennon and i will talk down the road brother happy st patty's day when absolute blow down is always always fun to see and appreciate about below and spend dennis miller for us what.
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