hey folks next up on dennis miller plus one kevin o'leary from shark tank lovable larry i think he's the pragmatic voice the simon callow in the middle tells people when it's time to as he says take something out back and shoot it i admire the artist state and he makes for great television kevin o'leary right out of the dentist mode plus one. day folks welcome to dennis miller plus one i'm excited big fan. kevin's love him on the halftime report i'm always hoping that he and josh brown will get their own siskel and ebert on fiscal matters show but as a venture capitalist entrepreneur you of course known from shark tank where he's the what say these are the sensible simon cow core of the show he's also the

founder and chief sama gay of the larry fine wines and shark tank just wrapped its 12th season on a.b.c. the estimable kevin o'leary kevin our. very good thank you very much. you know i it's funny. i know that the people are positive in certain types on these shows and i would never find you as the grinch i find you as the sensible guy some of the some of these people listen i love dreamers but some of these people it looks dangerous to me when they're going to push more chips in and i think at some point somebody should step in and say listen you got to as you say take it out back and shoot it because this it could ruin your life so i never find you mean i just find you the quintessential pragmatist. well i think that's kind words because you're right my mother taught me years ago if you always tell the truth you never have to remember what you said but you know the thing about

business is binary either you make money or lose it you see a really bad idea and you start to feel sorry for the person mortgaging their home you know it's going to 0 and frankly you know if you can't get through me in the shark will the real world gets ahold of is going to chew you up and spit you out so you know i really care about their money not so much their feelings and that may sound cruel but in the end of the day it's lucky they met me that's what i think yeah your interaction with them when they come into the shark tank for god's sakes people are so whiny these days then and oftentimes not the people who come into the tank they seem to be intrepid to some degree but the protectorate out there talks about the nicety of it i never get there if you if they met you in regular life and had a problem i can see what ticks or boxes far as when you get emotional i think it helped that this is this is an exchange of information here they've got a product you have an expertise on gleaning whether products or viral bore not and

i always think god he owes them his honesty what good do they do to take them further down the road. i mean i agree with you but you know you got to remember something about shark tank it's been around now for 12 years shooting its 13th season it's created dozens of multi-millionaires so billions of dollars worth of product it doesn't you know lightly doesn't strike every time but every once in a while you get this incredible idea fantastic concept and they've got the benefit of millions of eyeballs through syndication 8 minutes of prime time television i mean your customer acquisition costs go to 0 and you make a ton of money it's not uncommon to sell $5000000.00 worth of a product that scene on shark tank that's a night that happens all the time. now it is like a visual i.p.o. or the road show or something and when the guy comes in with a smiley face to claims a glass at least he's got something i just finished that book about that moron adam newman and i thought you know the it's like gertrude stein said at the end of the

day there's no good there there what what was happening what we were what what makes that any more viable than a squatty potty indeed the squaddie party puts in an angle to pass excrement and all it did with adam newman was it was the was coming out of his mouth for god's sakes. well i've got one for you if you want to go down that path check this out this is a cat d.n.a. kit now you're going to pay me $29.00 and i'm going to tell you when kid is going to bite the big one or you can spend a lot less and just buy a new kitty but hey i'm not a cat guy you know what i mean i don't like that's what i love cash flow this thing makes a ton of money because there's 110000000 cats in american people want to know where their kitty came from and i know after you send you back the data when kiddies chicken out of dodge forever and you need a new kitty test kit it's this is a fantastic business listen forget the litter each cat has 9 lives the up sale is to get one kit for each of them. there you go that is what you get out of like it

who would have ever thought of that that's the whole point you know so he walked to the door shark a cat the in a kid i think that's nuts and then she gave me her numbers i said not so nuts i'm in. listen i get the whole potpourri of the show imo i'm a little incredulous that the cubana started to believe that he's a potentate that that's the aspect the show i don't get as much anymore but i get that some of these are like things you get the touching one that that cutting board with the firemen that's so one of the sweetest moments i've seen and his kids what i would a living testimony to that a goodness of a man that those street kids come at like better wipe me out but there are other more like i said you do them a service warning them off certain things because it does get dangerous as i watch this recent acquisition of the step and fall if you are in or not way it made me think of ellsworth too he said i fled the stock market of the human spirit right

now and so it short unfortunately in the times we live there seems to be a great fortune to be made playing the. you know we're almost like. chaos the stair experience something. i always think oh let this code thing go away can we move on can we just push through this and eventually and now i can see some people are trenching in for the long run we're going to start opening doors with our feet and eventually you'll have to get carpal tunnel playing for shaking with your elbows there's all bunch of streams coming off this i didn't see it you're right but i'll tell you that product is going to be huge because people over the last year have come to the conclusion that if you touch a public door handle in a latrine somewhere you are going to die and so the only way to save your life is to use your shoe so open the door and thank goodness i'm there for you another opportunity to help you survive in

a world just teeming with disease and left far for me to say the products not good at selling by the millions of dollars because people just do not want to touch the handle and nor should they dennis that's what i love about shark thank. i love your i love your glengarry side because indeed coffee is for clothes here it's just. we'll tell you the coffee is bad for you we live in times where i think we've just emotional hemophilia runs rampant across the land which are going to kevin o'leary and of course you know him from shark tank he also has. a of a larry fine wines and he's really picked this business up and ran with it was it the was it your palate earlier was it your year or portfolio that 1st brought you to wines i assume back then you liked wine before you were able to invest right. well my dad my stepdad lives in switzerland and he's really was was into wines when

i was a teenager he started teaching about the different varietals burgundies porto's of the r.c. region the italians you know the cabin a scot all of these different in i just learned in europe people are uptight you know kids drink wine water with water when they're 7 years old that's just how they do in switzerland and so you learn early on and i learned how to blend wine and so you know i finally but i was very fortunate i started investing in in vain years and. the best way to turn yourself into a poor guys to invest in the wine business because there's 3 tiers of distribution and then along came the last changing about 6 years ago we can ship from your wine in california to 42 states direct and that changed everything for me because the whole shark tank thing i became the wine guy and now i could go online and say look i've selected you know these 12 wines for you that i blended myself i've won 5 wards or 10 awards because i have and we started selling direct and that business

is here to stay i ship 150000 cases a year. and fun too and what a perfect staging ground you had parentally so your father stepfather give janina flemming sort of cachet and then your mother i love the advice earlier it's one of the truest things you can say to a kit who wants to go through life juggling all these balls trying to figure out which story you told who you tell the truth and use your head hits the pillow and you can sleep your mother was also very smart economic affairs right. yeah she actually. sort of gave me my investment philosophy she used to take 20 percent of her salary when she was in you know her early twenty's and put it into the stock market dividend paying stocks and she had that portfolio a secret portfolio from both of her husbands she was married twice and you can't do that today but she pulled it off in those days in the late fifty's and when she

died i got a call from the executor i was the older brother and he said you've got to come down here your mother died are really wealthy woman so this portfolio of help telco bonds and s. and p. stocks for 55 years i always wondered how she had all this money around all the time and that's what it was and so i went and looked at that and said i'm going to do the same thing you stash a little bit away of what you make each each week when i was young i was doing that put in the market leverage goes up at 70 percent a year and just leave it alone magic happens that's how it works. didn't that grain silo sized cookie jar she had in the kitchen hip you to something different that you're not good did you not read serially tell me what. having a mom who put it in the telco what would she make of bit coy try to think that she would i see that you're pushing in the laughter of some of skepticism what would

she make up she believes in getting paid to wait she would never own anything that didn't send the check to each month or each quarter and she would live off those distributions but it didn't pay in money she didn't get it she didn't consider an investment she call it a speculation so that's why she had bonds and big fat juicy dividend paying stocks it's not a bad strategy she would have never done the bitcoin thing she'd say what the hell is this where swears my check you know it's that kind of thing. well you know i was skeptical too and i was trying to find some sort of strunk and white printer to understand a little so i read ben mezrich spoke about bit billionaire i say still don't understand it completely but i see where you've said that you will only invest in bit coin where it comes from for lack of a better word a fair place like fair trade practices or something like that but the very birth of bit and i think right after nakamoto births isn't used by guys on the web the so

crowed initially isn't it sort of scarface illegal tender isn't that its birth the bit yeah it is 64 percent of a coin mine comes from china and there's a lot of compliance issues that china 1st of all many of them burn coal which you know i'm talking from these the 2 tional perspective what happened to me was i said ok i'm going to go 3 percent waiting and then i started getting phone calls all over the from all these institutions that i work with because i've got other businesses that service institutional financial services and they call me up and said hey wait a 2nd where's this going coming from i said who cares they said we care we care we don't want to invest in anything that's mined in china because of human rights issues because they're burning coal and you know i had to listen i so i started looking at it and said well i've got to find miners that are doing this on a compliant basis that are you know burning coal and sticking in the atmosphere because i've got 10000 employees in my supply chain and all the companies and

they're all into sustainability so they had questions too and i've discovered that there's a whole market emerging pretty fast about people are saying i want bitcoin but i want to be mud sustainably and i have to go mine that myself so i'm i'm investing in a whole bunch of miners now that i just got my coin direct it's virgin or it came from and they make it for me that's the best way to do it and other situations one do the same thing because it is going to break into 2 s. a classes blood coin from china and clean coin and they're going to trade a different price one day. dislike the blood diamonds folks if you want to put it in layman's terms and i am the quintessential layman that that is going to become a very big part of investing in the future is finding out what the the 1st origins of that are because let's face facts kids are in the fairness business right away and they're they're not going to get on board with people who are gaming people early on in the process for their they're worth i want to talk to him about

kids now when i was a kid it was all about the house and that all that's changing we've got a good brain to pick care a big one as i said along with josh proud to my favorite and i am a layman you can watch both these guys and up your game a little it's like playing tennis with somebody who doesn't leave you in the dust but plays really well and makes you play a little better it's kevin o'leary you know him from shark tank very shark cat we'll be back we'll talk about the use of america right now and where they're going about all things fiscal with kevin o'leary right after this sunday on a spiller plus one. can you source the story about the fact that delayed maxwell will likely take

others down i guarantee you there's a lot more going on. in our nation's capital this is the news with rick sanchez and protesters who are not happy this is what we're going to drill down on right here on news breaks and shows where we really do believe it's time to do news again. this type of american is doing very well but then there's these guys over here who aren't doing so well if you drill down and look at the real numbers especially the rent numbers right. it's pretty bad there's people who are not paying the rent and say they're not going to be able to pay their rent for the foreseeable future.

hey folks welcome back then a similar plus one interesting chat with a man i well. people throw fandom around pretty quickly but if i flip through and i see this guy his mug i watch it because i always find him interesting he's a venture capitalist entrepreneur longtime star of shark tank also some of yea leary fine lines as he said he's won 10 awards now he's shipping north of 100000 cases a year shark tank by the way just wrapped its 12th season on a.b.c. you know kevin when i was the kids today that's one thing i learned from the out of the newman book is. i don't know if it's a naïve today or an urge to do well or some some sort of dangerous all true as and i do believe all true is and can lead to obsolescence at some point if you hold your own garden at some point but i do see that they're less interested than i was

when i was young and i didn't feel like an outlier in making a killing they're more interested in being comfortable and then helping everybody else that's a big tectonic shift isn't it. it is there is a new movement afoot about sustainability about caring about your neighbor i mean maybe this is post pandemic kindness i don't know but i see it in a lot of the people that they work for me in various companies and i've noticed something really interesting the companies that are successful that are not invest you know in over 50 and probably right now 34 of those 50 look like they're going to do very very well and those are the ones that have a mission they're very driven by something they really care about and they have a sustainability theme so the customers favor their products and services not from some marketing scam because that used you know i used to think the green thing by this product that will plant a tree i thought that was

a marketing scam it's not there's a whole bunch of consumers today that really care so if you're polluting and you're making your stuff out of plastic bottles and shipping it they don't want your product anymore they want people that give a damn about the things they care about and this is become a really interesting change and i think unique in some ways because usually you have to be a skeptic but when you see products i'll give an example this is another one i've got dozens of these this is a company that takes cleaning fluids and crystallizes them into this little tablet like in elko cells or you get a sustainable use over and over again you drop it inside with water bingo that's your toilet cleaner there's no plastic bottle throw out these guys came on shark tank and i said what the hell is that he said well this is our patent we can take any cleaning fluid crystallize it and we ship this direct to consumers or really get rid of 85000000000 plastic bottles wow so i invested in them they did 80000000 bucks in the 1st 24 months business i mean there are exploding because you

just people give a you know they care they care and that's the new the new model of sustainability i'm i'm in a joint venture with comcast on that one and i think we're going to make a ton of money on it. you know kevin i know after watching you for years that well 2 things and that was one of the thing about the stepan poll that fascinated me you didn't ask for a little stipend on each sale it's just i could tell that the new blood was in the water for you on that lawn when you just went to 6 from 8 you didn't ask for our 1st sale piece of it i thought oh he really like susan who in know that products going to sell you know when the thing airs every guy and his dog wants one and that's exactly what happened people are really freaked out after that year we've never had anything like this and now now i'm not touching that door handle never going to happen and the thing about that product was they designed it so you didn't scuff your shoe because most of them had

a little you know the teeth so you stick your shoe on it you scratch your leather it's stupid not these guys they figure that out smart i think i think the. good heartedness moving into the marketplace is going to eventually skew customer acquisition cost or do you think it'll remain a constant i know that's important to you if the word gets out on the street amongst young people that you're doing the right thing making a buck but not being credit should bought it i don't think you have to spend this much to procure them i think they'll come to you if they feel you're doing the right thing. and you're right because of social media what happened is now because of the immense power of the direct communication with your customers that these successful companies are utilizing because they grew up with it they understand how to tell their story and people smell mile away now you can't scam them anymore so if you're a big company and trying to b.s. about sustainability don't believe you in the 1st place which is why all these new brands are merging so quickly you know that they're basically saying look i'm not

a scammer this is exactly what i'm doing and i do care about say village you have done this or that and it's an honest dialogue and you know it really really makes a difference i'm amazed i'm amazed you know i'm it just i keep looking at these examples here's another one there's a company that that makes greeting cards love pop greeting cards are at it as a grating kind of scene and they went from retail joining the pandemic and shifted 79 percent of the business direct to consumer by telling their story saying you've got to buy direct from us we're going to go out of business if you like our stuff and you said it's your mother and whatever and those that direct communication boat you just exploded and they had millions of people ordering the carts i mean i'm all amazed at the power of television the power of social media the power podcast and all of these direct to consumer vehicles have changed how business is it is emerged in america and if you're not hip to that and you're not doing it you're going to 0 as was going to have you had that well that was one thing about them that the

newman book that i read that that makes sense to me as you said those guys i think as i've read they now realize they don't need the office space setting morea it's almost like a brick and mortar is going the way of a cabbage patch kids or something but that's going to be a big challenge in the future isn't it molls stuff like that places you have to go to that have many door knobs and it's a seam so much easier to do it from oh right. i think that right now it looks like i've got some data just my own companies out of those 10000 supply chain people about 15 percent have no interest in coming back to the office they were the ones that work in compliance accounting and logistics they they they work in a little cubicles and i want that in yes they have no interest in working in a cubicle so they're not coming back and if i can accommodate them they're going to work for somebody else that's going to become a feature of employment if they're raising their kids or in the suburbs or taking

care of elderly parents whatever it is they may know with certainty they can run their business remotely like we're talking right now all those technologies of power this digital pivot and frankly i think the economy is more efficient that way why they have them fly over the place do business anymore why can't you just do assume call work out a deal and you know fulfill it it's so much easier than saying a crappy motel eating bad food and flying all over the place and particularly in the winter when travel. who knows willie loman might still be alive if we had zoom back then you know i'm fascinated by entrepreneurs and i always think that part of it is well they do an ether but also part of it is i think when they see something of sapulpa happen they realize they want to steps through that stargate as quickly as possible i used to golf with richard rainwater up there and he was just guy when we got off that he you know i knew it was a wizard site pick his brain and he told me he was golfing once and the crescent

died in dallas and a guy put a phone app that was the size of a walkie talkie from the old t.v. show combat he said what's then the guy says it's a follow richard where like the 3rd oh i said it's a what he's or it's a follow. up i said i can't finish the round went back to the club bust of said bess and said we're going to liquidate and push everything there's a phone out there now that you carry with you so i think at some point is it not an entrepreneur or you've got to gleen it 1st then yeah if they act very very quickly or at kevin. because it's not just a mess the competition is a guy in shanghai or mumbai now once a kick you're going to work 25 hours a day to do it i mean i see that all the time no i'm great ideas here or you know any great idea anywhere can hit the market in a matter of weeks if and if you're not 1st you're going to have and even if you are going to have competitors to come after you it really is

a global competition is no question about that and i watch it happen all the time so i'm in the same boat when i see something i like a invest in and try to blow it up really quickly the best way to defend yourself is to get market share even if you don't have a proprietary technology if you've got market share that's hard to emulate hard to get so you know the people that bring products out 1st tend to really like the snotty member the snotty there's a 1000000 knockoffs of the sun but the snuggly made all the money and everybody else tried to beat them too late. you know you look back and i'll tell you as good at their job as burnette because geez i wonder if he sat in the casting room because i look at the mix there and i just think was somebody was super smart here the one guy early on was a little too close to laurie and god it was a sweat act but pennies a a get that guy in the 2nd chair over i knew he had to go but you look at some of these guys the mics and the mics listen folks people get whacked in television they're not like an anybody over there hardly because whoever picked picked the

right crew. you know i remember that breakfast with her dad in a place you know called shutters he called me up when i was working in england for discovery channel of the time he said get over here i want to have breakfast with you the meeting was only supposed to be like half an hour we spent so 2 in the afternoon together shutters never talking about shark tank but up much of other stuff and he said look lou is going to pick up the morning when to shoot in the paramount lot. anyway solves a pick up at 7 o'clock and some so what's this all about he said i'm looking for a real this new show i got called in honor of the guy. and i said ok that sends good let's go i didn't know the show is about i just sat there in the morning and i said to him you me you want me to invest my money in this stuff it's my money that was the 1st thing i remember saying. and we never let you never look back you know he used to say don't see them perform say he mark i'm

getting i'm getting all this hate mail he says don't go change and don't go changing you know it's no it's history if it is a really fun guy to work smart i tell you what kevin in a in a world where i don't quite understand what's going on but i realize i'm in the you middle of a huge shift in many ways i still periodic lee need the totem of the meritocracy and i will run towards it thanks not perfect i know it's a t.v. show but at some point i am still as i know many of your viewers are highly in their market somebody who sits at home thanks of something axon it pushes it to the point where they have the balls to walk down an aquarium hallway and sell it to a bunch of people get the money and push it further down the road to me it's almost the last outpost of the american dream and someway so i'm appreciative i know your fans are and you play a key part in that as the the cool pragmatist in the middle knows the reason you're

still in the middle of the panel it's good television and it's savvy advice thanks for your time kevin o'leary and of course shark tank stories good to meet you brother. thank you very much sense enjoyed it take care my friend all right later gator that's kevin o'leary this dennis miller plus well. how breed out breed are turned on the t.v. on the about the world and what's happening around me i see shows on the screen speaking last every day because the fake news near it says that

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