welcome to do so because this year isn't easy to be sure not to 75 years ago when the darkest episodes of human history has ended how has the humanity changed how has to come back to psychology changed after the end of world war 2 to consider it is a much more i'm joined by a legendary film director screenwriter producer. then a heads up filmmaker producer screenwriter and actor really great to have you on our show today so many things that are going on so if in fact diversity of will work too and you were born in the middle of world war 2 you grew up in post-war germany you've seen major change in the course of your lifetime do you think humanity is collective psychology has undergone any kind of significant

transformations since world war 2. of course it's cindy fact she is now in the. band singing and better live than a girl a felon lost and i still have very strong ethical i memories of the very end of the 2nd world war. actually told them it was not really his memory stuck when you have 5 or 6 made very 1st memories when i was 2 and a half years old it was very shortly only 2 weeks before the maybe 3 weeks before the end of the war before the german kept its relation. i remember that my mother wakes old up or they may be rocky in the middle of the night and it was cold and still snow out there she wraps us into a clank is good suppose always in her arms in dresses up on the hill behind the

house and she says boys i had to wake you have to have to see this the city of heroes in him is earning in the city of who was in a time that was they knew about the city and it's about 5060 kilometers away and she said the city of heroes in him is earning it to be looked into it said of the valley the entire skit you see when you have when you see if i you see the flickering and so on since it was so far away and did a soapy the entire sky was posing it was orange and red and yellow and it was slowly posing a sky like this in complete silence and i knew there was something big going on there was only 2 and a half because i knew this was baby and i knew this was a danger out there and the world was different when we had had so far and.

i became curious what is the world all that. and then and shortly afterwards when the americans arrived germany's restraint constraint in strength in the east west started to to occupy into meaning the battles and from the west bridge is strange and americans and the area and in bavaria where he grew up. was one of the very last minute elements it was look ok i didn't finally was over and by americans and i met a salami and i remember that straight and next for the 1st time a black man. and we had only knew it from fairy tales whether it's blakemore is maurice and it was it an african american and he was very very big he was this type of shaquille o'neal. basketball player very big very

strong very heavy and he had a wonderful voice and maybe not as somebody sitting with him next to the slopes behind the houses and it was talking to him fallis and she asked me then you know who was said and i said this was a wonderful man you know i meet a black man and he smuggled the food and he had. a wonderful voice every name is lloyd and then you will be. maurice the every can say were wonderful people and they sank into me and until today when i see a black man in a seasoned type of shockey little meal or they just like me and they have a myth. so those are very personal echoes that stayed with you forever. and there are so many a like you a little who is who are more in the middle of it and even those who underwent the

whole board will to do you think not personally but as a collective psychology. has it changed for people over the course of 75 years do you think the collective psychology has changed since world war 2 and the few things that hass that how. elitist and i can. enforce this if to speak about myself again i belong to a generation that grew up in the ruling so we only knew there was a disaster it was a name terry and the entire country older cities. into into degree and. into everyone in my generation old napier's we knew there was something not right in the bill not to be in b. took a look at it which wanted to. obviously bait it was clear to us. is

something that she's not going to have its longest night and of course it is alarming that we see. racism rising its head again and. you have. a rightwing wolf meetings. on the rise. and we know this is dangerous and we have to take a really big there's a. you know about 2 years ago in 2800 german foundation passed conducted a study that was aimed to find out germans asked to work the past and almost half of this paying party told that they don't think things like holocaust can ever happen again selflessly when i talk to my jewish friends that they're like oh we're not so sure because people need to be reminded of the atrocities that you know we went through all the time in order for that not to ever happen again what do you

think do you think they did it they did cation understand that half of the people sat this will not happen again. good enough indication of action won't or do we need to do something extra to always keep it in your people's minds where larry knows a trophy when you speak of. that's and can i say in such a way. as i have a life. the guarantee and it's no use you see me in the stories you have me talking and it's a very simplistic if we have something like the stake in the holocaust coming up we'll take arms defeated and. try to defend it we truly need to loose we not be alive anymore. or cost again is young he says bracing me so it's going to him because if we fight back x.

the flea i mean our mrs every friday bank and you really see you really see me data and they need may have that says there is a straight forward and very strong reaction and a very honest answer and i thank you for that matter a lot to ponder to with you. it's human nature for instance no matter how many atrocities friend committed in the last war collapsing violence of people against other people is something that doesn't seem to go away any other how they as lee are taking logically we still see a lot of violence around us way think is fundamental making me share of being brutal to others come from is it survival instinct is it something else while sitting as still there how evolved we are seeing the. same trees in the same trees of scientists and philosophers and releasing see if

try to find a balance of the do not if. we only have we have. from the earliest time of human existence of who will stop ian said speaking of that there has been violence against each other we have skeleton remains of coleman young man for narrow hades in the grey so there his. what if you have the have. case paintings for example caving graving in the southern zahara with laurie scenes in each human conflict armed conflict battle among men. in. i would say i wouldn't say that it's in the nature of fast collectively we haven't gotten very far from. collectives lisle ends individual

violence yes it's always crime and so is that is something which unfortunately is happening but the commission is magic big. as it exists in the human nature collective nature and nobody has a freelancer yet. of course we have to be very cautious in particular is we have instruments instruments. extremely dangerous atomic weapons biological weapons. and because of the 1st world war was so catastrophic because because all of a sudden the war became industrialized and armies met in the battlefield in the 1st days of the war with a kind of civil case. and it showed weldon bravery and real face each other face to face like medieval great evil warriors they the

storage in the shield and all of a sudden they were machine guns and they were all missing that was massive altshuler he and i will have free hand and in the shock the shock was extremely in the shock of the holocaust the way it's so teen number one because it is unprecedented is no chris it ins in world history nor is there anyone else to describe 83. if this. term holocaust but it's not a real description of what really made it so shocking and so unique was. generous and it was industrialized it was an industrialized mess murdo 6000000 jewish people when we speak and up and feeble for a trust is like heartless what if they are traders and brainwashing the human mind

to the point that one is doing all of those appalling things and is males doing the right thing. it's a very deep question and part of it i believe is. collective from narrative. to day for example it's not so important well during the nazi time not the importance with the facts we have. the narrative. demonization of let's say the jewish people the french the russians the you just name eat. into it and you see it very very clearly today. it is not so much with history and factually happening it's. a narrative and we have to be very very careful in what's really.

looking at the media what other media is is almost collective brainwashing going on no one else. will be caking babie have to be alarmed in gabby have to be vigilant and we should single now. burning issue of rape right now and that will continue to happen to randall moore a director screenwriter for his or her home in nature. you're in for a scene with us. so what males have tended to do and still do is is we tend to we certainly have

empathy all of that but we also tend to do nurture through aggression so we create things like like soccer and football and you know all of the various hundreds of games that involve aggression now women are aggressive and can play those games no doubt very well but when you go back to why they were created those games were created for males to nurture other males to aggression to teach them how to be empathic few aggression.

and we're back with legendary director berger thought for. one of my favorite karen philosophers are arguing that the worst crimes against humanity are made by a banal and mediocre people who just got caught out in a well into history and they thought with what it without really asking too many

questions do circumstances make dillard's out of normal people or our bill of war. i think it's great complexity to fix. our interests pointed out i think is the 1st one and the banality of evil this is a very good observation. because. there you go from the. very. loose thing going and very. existence is. if existence is like getting into power all of a sudden you have a very dangerous concoction. well i think back at our grandfathers you know marsh awfully boring 93 and it was not be extraordinary to them for centuries before that fighting a war in that traditional way was like a normal thing that you were just as hostages from time to time now when i should

say 5 years of relative peace getting war as our grandfathers knew it doesn't he says as a viable option in our european sakhi anymore or has just transformed itself into something else. it doesn't exist and for the grandfather. price by the way can is a scene of the warring the faster he says the biggest of all shocks. i believe that today the scenario has changed in particular because of nuclear weapons and very. delivery systems feinted very dangerous it should see me medium range to break ins and delivery systems back. coming back. saying it's very dangerous and in that i also find that russia in the way

culturally it belongs to europe i didn't find it completely off it for a short moment there was considerations even to ensure restoration to nato. of course it's his very complicated reply christians would need to defend dress trade say if there is a conflict in the far east and the pacific with. china. and so on so it's too complex. idea is not pronged it's russia belongs. to when i say i say mean europe culturally belongs to us the poetry belongs to us i heard to say that more is than is a threat to tell on covering who we really are saving our own country nature and you've got several documentaries about war 'd you shot egypt and about what iran may discover is healing nature day he may while shooting himself.

have to you know take it when film down to 2 of the little soldier filling them to a shelter in nicaragua with. native miskito indian 1000 insurgents. and. it was mostly child cells as boys 891011 years old and when you look at war and being fooled by children in they can't fight a war because they can operate something as cian gun easily. and they can use truth of warfare they don't have to be grown up in strong and. heavy built so the tragedy of seeing war is full of children is particularly this particular claim for. and. in this

case in nicaragua. it was. not propaganda they brought in but atrocities their families had suffered and families wiped out not being killed in front of. and on the next day the boy joins the insurgent. personal tragedy so. you have the tragedy on an individual basis and i think when you. when you're looking at it lori drew draws human beings into war and crisis propagandhi approve a kind. and personal experiences. study study war as children involved in your very often in africa your seed

quite often. very. when something like more strikes. it brings out the worst and the best in people and what i mean is that lake. for every time there is a betrayal and murder for his sake of survival there's a tale of someone saving someone a soldier jumping on a grenade a family risking everything to shelter a fugitive so many germans who risked their lives to actually have jewish people in their homes you know what i mean these aren't the things that you would actually do as you go on in your everyday life i'm just saying i went something this big strikes. everything that's in the good i'm bad comes out would you say would you say that it's a corrective generation and i'll tell you why i'm saying this because i want to

take this to whatever is going on right now the whole condemned it and a colleague 19 and talk about how we are reacting to that because i believe kong 19 down to 11 world war 3 we're fighting all of us the whole world together and visible enemy do you feel like. this condemn me has also you know transformed people because i see some people just like during the wars that my grandfather spot being ignorant being inconsiderate and others are risking their lives to save other lives and these are things that i don't see during an every day day. he. is going to move through to the pandemic because of course it's for al incineration seeds and he will. be having tasted since 197918. and we have played here as like in the middle ages ending at it in the until treaty

. yes it's really half sums it really bring changes in their collective behavior at the moment we have. one kill she meant that is to simply in we have to separate and isolate ourselves because we have to starve the virus it cannot jump to anyone anymore you have to starve it out. beyond that basically maybe the have to help. for the vaccine and then things will really change the entire picture will change from that on. but it brings good things out in a can she legionella neighborhood. helping each other and how we are collectively understanding and that is hard to understand is it. is strange is not in our everyday experience of numbers when you walk

along a street you meet one passenger you need one person then the next in number 3 number 4 and sell the spread of the virus 'd is in a different message magic's is a little you have you meet. 16 people at the next one is not number 17 and all of a sudden number 32 are started 2 are coming at you and the next well it's not 33rd person 64 people are coming at you or you're spreading it to 64 and then it's kind of in 28. and then to india and all of a sudden receive a few kilometers of this up to a 1000000 and it's not in our experience of experiences numbers and indexes to sink in and because if there. is to it the movement has to be

disciplined. but here again just just to wrap this conversation up you ask the visionary as if the artist's little vision and he you know he may feel he you are driven by images ray what you looking back at this endemic see it is something that will transform the humanity how just pasted in a film if you were to make a film about it i think i should make us feel good about it but. not let's imagine. i don't believe. it shows so things. could negatively. we can change some some very fundamental behavior it's not a big jump but in the interim and we can change our behavior and you actually see heroic behavior seeing on television people who were the 1st ones

who can be part of a study and get. intentionally infected by the virus in order to test. some sort of medication against it and those are there only people who step out of society very average people they stand up and they say it has to be done and i really be vulnerable and please give me the virus in test you have vaccine. and i think they said it was simple do you disability heroic you know it's not just a gesture because these people may die and heroes only those who have died and that frankly so much for this engine for this lunar fall inside i really do hope we get to do this again maybe on a different topic but this has been such a breath of fresh air talking to you right before the 75th anniversary of the

dictator there it wrong thing about russia since we are speaking. russia has lost more than 25000000 soldiers and civilians. and. the only real heroes those who sacrificed their life they are the heroes indeed have. over $25000000.00 heroes to commemorate and. i regret that it was germany that. all these. russian people. and they believe married to the russian. and they you are a happily married to a beautiful russian woman for many many years to come face to neuter a.j. and stacy thank you so much.

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