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there appears to be a possible breakthrough in the iran nuclear deal as the u.s. considers releasing a rainy and funds for humanitarian purposes today world powers are holding a 4th round of high level talks in vienna austria here's artie's alex my limits with the latest developments. it's been 2 months of tough talks in vienna and while some say strides have been made in the right direction but u.s. has maintained that there is still much to be done for it to rejoin the joint comprehensive plan of action more commonly known as the iran nuclear deal here's u.s. senator chris coons talking to america's gulf arab partners in the u.a.e. earlier this week it's not clear yet whether there is a path towards a return to the j.c. k.o.a. complains for complaints that's actively being discussed in vienna in terms of what sort of steps would be taken in what order what kind of sanctions relief what kind of unfrozen assets might might happen now is the 4th round of high level

negotiations begin in austria there is fresh talk from the u.s. about how iranian assets may be on frozen the bite into ministration is looking at releasing $1000000000.00 in iranian funds for the purpose of humanitarian relief instead of on freezing cash the funds would be allocated as a part of the swiss humanitarian trade arrangement a mechanism set up last year to allow for humanitarian aid to a ran such as these vaccines from russia without violating u.s. sanctions against that country while the move is seeing opposition from iran hawks in the u.s. congress those in favor of freezing the assets see it as a step in the right direction to get the rand deal done. thomas countryman who served as u.s. assistant secretary of state for international security and nonproliferation from 2011 to 2017 said if it demonstrates the kind of good faith that can cause reciprocal good faith from the iranian side then it is potentially a good step forward your brand is one of the hardest hit countries of the world

when it comes to the coronavirus and the worst in the middle east it is desperately in need of help right now hopes are that by giving iran some of what it needs iran will agree to take steps to rein in its nuclear program which is the crux of the 2015 iran nuclear deal that was abandoned by the trumpet ministration in 2018 although some say that the negotiations could end without a deal there is optimism but the latest round of talks which began today in vienna have the potential to be fruitful participants are continuing that with discussions which are held on various levels and which half of us objectives of the fool that i'm expect if instead of in taishan of the deal by old size and new us we turn to that she's feeling russia's lead negotiator for the vienna talks seems to have confidence in the process he tweeted this yesterday the next who knows maybe final round of vienna talks on restoration of full implementation of the j c p o

a will start on may 7th of course if the need arises the negotiators may decide to make a new break to seek further instructions from the capitals and according to reports a senior u.s. state department official said we think that it's doable because it's not rocket science it's not inventing a new deal many hope to have the nuclear agreement completed before the jouni elections in iran where hardline candidates have been campaigning against the renewal of the deal for r.t. i'm alex my love each. and here to discuss former u.k. employment george galloway and former pentagon official mike maloof. george i will start over with you the russian delegate today tweeted this he said quote the joint commission j c p away at its meeting today opened a new round of talks on full restoration of the nuclear deal the participants agreed on the need to intensify the process the delegations seem to be ready to

stay in vienna as long as necessary to achieve the goal now george it appears they are still using intermediaries but this is a positive note is that it is think the signal from the russian side the good music if you like seems to suggest it's not going to break down there's not going to be walkouts is obviously positive. the unfreezing of it in our search talk obviously helps to warm up the room although it is one of making the point the these are really in funds that should never have been frozen in the 1st place they're not going to be released as cash which is what they were when they were frozen but through some convoluted swiss jonell but nonetheless i don't want to be churlish. optimistic the the

biden administration has no invested so much in restoring this to school on the nuclear deal with their on the will in the make the concessions necessary to get this over the line well mike what about that iran's negotiator abbas iraq she told state t.v. that it appears the u.s. is ready to lift many sanctions but that tehran is still demanding more he's taking a very strong posture on this so is tehran bluffing. no i don't think to run his bluff at all and i don't share george's optimism that they're going to come to some conclusion prior to the juda elections for the. iranian presidency which almost guarantees and promises to be a hard liner and just last weekend i saw efforts by the

i r g c to try and scuttle that was those those initiatives by. putting out word that there's going to be a prisoner exchange and $7000000000.00 is going to be. paid to the iranian government that just. was denied by both sides so there's there's active internal efforts in inside of iran not through this to to happen and it does not meet the initial criteria that iran had and that was to lift all sanctions before they do anything else secondly iranians are not going to do away which is what a requirement by the u.s. to do away with each other great is centrifuges that they have built there at the i r 9 level which gives them 60 percent. enrichment they're not going to scuttle those or throw them away which is what the u.s. side is i mean there's too many obstacles you know within

a month before those elections to overcome and i just don't see it at this point well george on mike's note there an american state department official briefed reporters they remain anonymous as per apparently state department rules they briefed reporters saying things like we think it's doable it's not rocket science it's not a new deal he emphasized that it's simply returning to the old one he called tehran's demands and realistic but tehran says the u.s. like george said are seriously that mike said that tehran destroy those centrifuges that they have whereas the old deal only asked that those centrifuges be disabled and then stored under i.a.e.a. supervision could that then be the deal breaker. i don't think so i think the u.s. will have to concede on the point because mike's absolutely correct the iranians are not going to destroy things that didn't have to be destroyed in the original

deal before the us walked out of it but there's no material difference in destroying them or putting them under. control so i can't believe that that would be the u.s. bottom line simply wouldn't be understood in the international community look i think the glasses have fool mike thinks it's half empty but that means we agree of are exactly how much liquid is in the dos and i believe the imminence of a hard line victory in the iranian presidency means that the u.s. would be foolish not to get this over the line over the next 7 days or so otherwise they're going to have to deal with a far far far far in any and government after the presidential election because nobody seriously believes that the hardline candidates are not going to win. and

mike in this state department has really been tight lipped on on exactly what those sanctions lifted will be what sort of strategy do you think the state department is taking here and how much of this is contingent on guidance from the d m d. well the d.o.d.'s going to be in gauged in this but i think that there are some considerations there they would love to have ali have everything back to the way it was and also include all the missiles and what have you which the original j scipio way did not include. iran has advanced considerably since the initial j c p oh it was signed back in 2015 but one other consideration by the iranians they know that they're watching israel and netanyahu is trying to form a government he's desperate he's desperate and he's already threatened to bomb them tets chance which is the iranian facility at

a nuclear facility and between now and june anything could happen and netanyahu has basically threatened and the and a week ago there was a and in this really keen visiting the state department saying that we you just can't go ahead with this thing so they're sending warnings to the the j c p a c o a is is is a nice thing to have but it could bring on a lot more grievance in the in the future in the near future or iran now georgia the united states policy yeah george speaking of israel the ayatollah overnight made some pretty strongly worded statements about israel he called israel not a state a terrorist base so if things go according to how mike framed it how does all that come into play when you bring in israel. well if israel were to attack iran obviously all bets would be off and returning to the j c p or it would

be the least of our worries because we'd be discussing a fool blown war a conflagration i cannot believe that the us government would permit that i don't think that joe biden is as close to netanyahu as previous presidents have been in fact i'm certain he's not netanyahu went out of his way to humiliate joe biden when he was the vice president i don't believe the us would permit that to happen and i don't believe it could happen with the us permission so again i'm still looking at our gloss and still have my final thoughts on this. yeah i think george is the ultimate diplomat but i must say but the israelis are our hell not of the united states by and but but. but but.

the minute ministration does not have control over netanyahu he feels emboldened and i think he would take action if he thought it was quote in net in israel's national interest he could declare by the way in this interim period it's a national emergency inside of israel and continue to rule indefinitely in order to engage iran and he has made it clear under no circumstances would iran that capability so i think it's going to be a very dangerous time between now and june always a dangerous time mike in that area of the world michael maloof george galloway banking both for weighing in. the conviction and garrick chauvin any upcoming trial of the 3 other former south there is accused in the death of george point has now. now reached the federal level will break it all down with our panel coming up and

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rights so joining us now to expand on all of this is retired d.c. metro police detective ron hampton and a force legal and media analyst line of lionel media my friend 1st can you explain these new charges to us are they a civil in nature of a criminal or how does this work. they're criminal charges they are in essence duplicate so everything you've heard before at least in the case of show than and the other officers have yet to be charged but basically under title 18 u.s.c. section 242 it alleges that under color of law that these police officers willfully denied mr floyd his constitutional rights by virtue of what the did again it's in essence exactly the same behavior but because it's in a different tribunals has different elements it's not technically double jeopardy but it's in essence the same conduct and it's criminal and it's federal well let me

expand on that a little bit if for example there was already in jail he's awaiting his sentencing what if he were to be guilty on this new federal charge with that added to his time or would it be. running together with with the time that he would be sentenced to different totally different charges would be that if you were charged with arson if you was charged with anything else for that matter normally judges courts will accommodate in a concurrent sentences as a matter of practicality but they are completely different but for exactly the same behavior ha now ron. shogun has already been convicted on all his charges we saw his boss and some of his coworkers take the stand 1st can you comment on how the police chief had testified against chauvin is that common and if you could also comment on police training is that is kneeling on someone like that

is that standard practice. what it was and. it wasn't one standard practice when i was a police also it's something that police departments some police departments train their officers do name but it's supposed to be a temporary process something that you do and then once the individual once you have control over the individual then you get up off of the net because that is a deadly technique when you're leaning on a person's neck or join me in putting your weight on it by that so. it's again it's not something that we're trained to do that's what the subs do in my time but it's use limit it has a limit to it in terms of you but you have to be very careful with it because it's a technique well what about what about having his own boss the police chief testify against him how damaging was that and and you haven't been

a long time police officer is that common who do you see the boss testify against his lower level officers it's not it's not that common good but this was a special case and absent police chiefs testified in of the raw 2 roles defending the police department techniques defending training defending the behavior of police officers that's in concert with their training and policy so i seen him in those roles before but this role was interesting and even though he was testifying against show them he was also testified for the police department because in some ways his department was on trail in relationship to rick. representing the police department so it was kind of unusual as well as some of the of the offices that was justified but they wanted to be clear that to me after that

was department doesn't put just a faith and utilize those strategies or practice interesting he was to is trying to differentiate between his whole department and all his people versus chauvin being the one rogue i know these new charges are coming just as showman's attorneys are calling for a mistrial after it was discovered that one of the jurors was a protester who had attended the march on washington last summer he was seen wearing a shirt that said get your knee off our necks b.l.m. . sjogren's attorneys have a case here for mistrial well they have a number of motions post 30 motions motions for new trial alleging a for why they did things for example seaquest ration there were some instructional errors but then we find out after the fact that you have a juror who said no i never did this and then lo and behold because of this remember during the roger stone case you had the jury foreman who was basically

tweeting everything you could imagine about him and whether it technically is is it perjury jule digital why did the court when you said it look. as we say in the south that dog don't hunt that this is going to be this this is this verdict is bullet proof there is absolutely nothing that we're getting away of this but let me explain something as far as a new federal cases go if you have a different judge a different jury different set of circumstances a different tenor and if a jury were to say you know before we even get to this i don't believe that the death of this seer radically i don't believe the death of mr ford had anything to do with the police i think it was fentanyl overdose let's assume there were better experts this case is done because if the death of mr floyd had nothing to do with the police if that if we would have happened independently this is all moot unless

you could say just by virtue of the behavior was it in of this of constitutionally prohibited so the. federal government is now making it even more difficult because you think a jury's going to say that those officers willfully don't private him of his constitutional rights with all the mayhem and these officers who by virtue of their indifference allowed this to happen that jury could very well sit there and say look enough's enough this is this was after me this was this was this was insane for them to to jump in and tell a superior officer hey i had set up yeah we'll see but it's not as easy as the federal government says or believes it will be won on all your years as a police man can you speak to whether or not race plays a role as to how officers treat some people some suspects are or perps. well i came up in a field as if i'm in a time when have been americans made up less than 18 percent of the force in

a city that was rapidly in. on this way to 6570 percent of black folks and being around these police officers for 24 years if race made a difference in some up one shot and battle about talking about race and and the manifestation of there were also demonstrated that they were prejudice and you know and some member of the national black police association do in those days we brought that up of the read it times and and and and and they didn't i mean it that there were also times in roll call when they didn't hesitate to use the n word in a racist church cancer and aids of black folks so you know there has there's a lone sort of history of racism in policing that this only in it but how it does it work in the community is that it that it's

a sign to in tasks whip protecting butt out i just had a question i wanted to ask the lawyer you don't think that they proved you don't think that they'd crew who does show up with and those other 3 police officers were indifferent to the 2 to 2 to just floor and and one that they the police officers had to do it even if they used it the force they are tasked with the responsibility of the of a 1st a 1st responder responsibility as a relates to that so you don't improve. well the other officers weren't on trial yet so no they haven't been nothing to prove as far show then they obviously proved it by virtue of the verdict absolutely right right oh no doubt. and that's i can see i mean i just don't think that but the federal case is going to be absence that because that's to prove it was cruel let me just say something and so

it's a very thought our system of jurisprudence there's something very very difficult about proving what is called misprision where i'm with not doing something now granted it's one thing for the police officers not to render aid let's say to an accident they come upon an accident somebody has been hit by a car it's another thing to to not intervene when a police officer mr shogun is doing something which he argued apparently not to the satisfaction of jury was part of his training it's a different story for you he was indifferent and not stopping a fellow police officer affecting an arrest where these officers are going to say is i didn't have time i meant to subpoena i didn't have time to weigh what was going on i'm trying to maintain crowd control or whatever but that remains to be seen but we will see but it's a very you know because i don't know if you understood i understand your point in relationship to the 3 the other 3 but it is so over the case. i'm just

a dad he doesn't have a number stand on here he wanted to because even as he used in new york he still had a responsibility. to make sure that that man. that he was that he was alive when he when he recognized. ted 10 seconds line and when i got to go ahead little if he testifies to the jury believe that he did not willfully deprive him of his constitutional rights not that he was an excessive but that he didn't willfully deprive me that's right not guilty it remains to be seen we will see later this summer gentlemen good to have you both ron hampton lionel a lot of media thank you for joining us today all right that's going to france right now make sure you keep up with everything in question at all times by downloading the portable t.v. apps and for watching whenever you want but if we can't thank you for watching the full sail.

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