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international team thanks a lot for watching and we hope to see you again soon. slowing welcome across to her all things are considered un peter lavelle remembering war on this edition of the program we explain why russians have a new version of war contrary to what is said in the west and at the recent g 7 foreign ministers meeting russia was declared reckless and aggressive who is really reckless and aggressive.

to discuss these issues and more i'm joined by my guest mark has bubbled up alyson london he's a historian analyst and author of the new book arise rossiya return of russia to world politics and here in moscow we're joined by bob she is political analyst and editor he knows me internet media project originally us topples in effect that means he can jump in anytime he wants and i was appreciated on his go to marcus 1st in london well here we are again commemorating the end of the cycle world war new europe the the destruction of fascism which of course is a truly profound holiday in russia though it's not the solid a is not nearly recognised as much as it was at one time in the west as a matter of fact what really pains me and why we do a program every single year on this is that the distortions of history the ball speak ation of history and the that and the attempt to deny russia its rightful place in destroying fascism in europe your thoughts on this day because this is one

of the most important days if not the most important day on the calendar in russia . well i'm glad syria express my profound congratulations to the russian people answer all of the people so for us soviet union such as the ukrainians and russians on victory day a most sacred oath ace which represents the soviet union's a victory in both will syria and we've it's the preservation of the soviet smaller lands we must always remember that it was on the eastern front well who else or was long and lost the family x. income 88 percent of its troops a wartime losses or that's an awful way of every 5 german soldiers who die in a boat also who fought die and fighting against the red army the triumph the successes of the soviets in the 2nd one who is one. the most marketable episodes in

shipment history because they hold seats and eventually annihilates it's a german war machine which in lessons for years conquered most of europe and the van bots was in my estimation the most miserable fighting machine in living history especially in offensive warfare and the red army the serbian people as a whole 'd stop sights and buy stock and that they preserved mankind as a civilization the soviet people pay for an enormous price officially the figure is between 27 and 28000000 more than likely more than 40000000 soviet people perished vats is another reason why the russian people as a whole equal you know the russian man and woman and the russian leadership have a profound version to war lusha does not want war russia

only wants to preserve its national security and that has been the case when russia was a wristband russia was communist and russia today so we must always remember the serviettes war that you know de mint that there is a concerted effort in united talked about this on numerous occasions is to deny the the history and the facts that mark is just presented to us here there is this concerted effort to distort this the soviet contribution to destroying fascism in europe why is that is it just to deal with illegitimate eyes to today's russian russia is legitimate national security interest go ahead. well interestingly if. you bushies came out of the author or. agency recently basically you made it clear if you sat just that question you know as my if you will permit equates that my isp wouldn't defending you know their their

contribution of the soviet union to defeat over nazi germany or weiss you so insistent on people hearing the facts you know from the archives and then bushies he gave hans in his own article because if the soviet union was a model of the aggressor see in that war if the soviet union has the same responsibility for their beginning on the what s. the european parliament is now trying to convince us right then the soviet union was not a legitimate state and the russian is not in egypt mid-state been a success of the you know and this kind of major trip you see history would give you might the very foundations although won't go out of that we craft you know put in and russia are very often now accused by the west all of you know disturbing the stability you know denying that the structures created off the wall what you were

you know changing the board as well of course it was not a russia it was nato and the west the change the war distrust you know beginning with the unification of germany beginning with their separation of course from syria maybe other wars but nevertheless they insist just on crimea and to end on the events in georgia are saakashvili tried to require that their interest that seceded from germany from georgy in 1901 and that lead to a war which you lost. the western media your schooling in the prussia is there are your. well if we read that resolution of the european parliament adopt a plus to know in $2190.00 and then most area i think it was because of dangerous fear all that control more to act you know i was just creepy at this resolution recently and they've all so many i missions there you know for example based on.

there is additional stress that the 2nd world war the most devastating war in europe history was started at s. and he media result of that authority is not to so he or non-aggression or rangitoto what was not yet 39 nor the whole truth where is the american dream and here it's simply a historical here let me go back to marcus i'm glad you brought this up here demon i mean it was the failure of the of the western structures security system of europe it was munich when it had italy in my mind the 2nd world war maybe didn't start but it was inevitable because it was the western powers that sold out the sovereign country when stalin's soviet union was always demanding for security protections to maintain the peace in europe that is completely forgotten and you don't have to love or hate stalin bennis is the fact go ahead mark just like you

that he was a friend of the soviet union like him or. yes indeed following the coming to power of the national socialists in germany in january of 1933 and certainly if from 1945 onwards stalin sort of collective security we've both brits and france but was securely intensive in the period from 1946 right up until the summer of 1939 however up to london and paris has a his sterile cool lovin of communism so you give up with this song. very cool distrust and suspicion over russian motives which the british and the french always described as russian expansionism russian imperialistic objects is so they shunned stalin's attempts a collective security now i'm not going to sit here today peter and say that if

president france and the soviet union has signed a pact to one another that words have to nazi germany it because there is more than sufficient evidence to show that nazi germany was of the opinion that the soviets army was not a particularly powerful force when it came to offensive warfare nonetheless the fact that the serviette union swords collective security with britain and france is a historical fact you cannot dispute that and yet the british and the france also signs their own agreements of nazi germany than they laid out city infamous eunick conference in which it dissipates in lands of czechoslovakia was given away to hit back just encourage hitler's insatiable lust but silence or expansion and

then the server union in the summer of night in august of 1000 votes not good for britain and france about previously or germany based signed an agreement with nazi germany about was not a pats of friendship but was the by both sides to fight for what they believed was going to be an inevitable conflict and would be frank about the lands that the red army apparently annexed from poland that was true did that was a land which holand had taken from the soviet union during the polish soviet war there were no bullets fired from the red army ensign the eastern europe the eastern lands or opponent they were celebrated by both the bella. and the ukrainian yes because poland could be as a result of the end days and announcing based bowl and became a failed state was no longer a functioning state demons were rapidly running out of here i think it's really important to me and. our viewers this version the russians. because

that's not the message you get in western media all of the times i remember very very clearly when putin gave a speech to the general assembly united nations i think it was in august of 2015 when he announced. based on the invitation of the syrian government that russian we did deploy military personnel and hardware to fight terrorism i lived in this country your country for many many years and never saw people so we're going to war terror by bowhead no you're absolutely right and this is the reason why x. russia and before the soviet union norwich to the fort for many injustices the company during their 2nd war you know it was actually of the soviet union the 1st oscar is an illusion you know also if i'm an oscar is illusion in 100-1009 demming more frequent and it's all come up.

this resolution has not been recalls you know the problem was the reaction on the west and especially or east european countries to our. desire to make the strong desire to have bygones be bygones instead of all say or keep this is the terrible cost you know the restart are the same nationalist movements that existed before the war and that our allies to heat when you're in the war be to rename all the places you know again this resolution or that european parliament continue to exist until in existence in public spaces in. some member states of more human cement morial boxed squares streets glorify and potato regimes there are no ox glorifying stalin or so if you're in there who are not you know in the. in the ages or so in the 7 just there are all glorifying the soviet soldiers who

draw the germans away so and why france for example in poland he lived on the square named after the defenses of study and the name was removed why this is terrible this is what makes os you know he can see into some of our concessions that we made in 1809 and united are out of the us and i jump in here that's actually a thread of we're going to be able to use the next part of our program here ok i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break after that short break discussion on some real news day. but if you work for the cue for both of those with the chairs. ready to go the idea

of a 2 of the 4 pushes last just to keep you into the. course 90 students that are saying no is make a cricketer so that one can feel. pleasurable fish not go for the beautiful building water of the ship and of these the bits and pieces of the shore a small boat was just from the us we simply should be. able to cope with school that once this issue will. go off is really. thought out the story could get to the beat and if we did all of the much of what you mean yes the. door mamma as they should but they could be when you get out of the scott. peterson you're sure it's the principle but it's often what she has a mistress. the world is driven by shaped by our own person or those.

dares thinks. we dare to ask. welcome back across top work all things considered on peter labelle this is the home edition to remind you we're discussing some real names. it is go back to london marcus we had the g. 7 of foreign ministers meeting and we still have the secretary of state and i mean

they can and he's on his. democracy versus a top procedure or it would seem and and of course we come across as very familiar rhetoric of who is being reckless and who is being aggressive here but you know that at the same time when when i look at statements coming from out of the u.k. out of united states when it comes to ukraine i have to ask the question who's being aggressive who's being reckless and i would say it is the creating government the u.s. government and the british government which remarkably is you know always the loudest part of barking dog in all of this idea maybe you can explain to our viewers why is the u.k. so directly anti russian they're the roosevelt b. is gone beyond reason go ahead. well if i may take the 1st point why is britain a service a phobic for centuries now ever since their domestic relations are established

between london and moscow in the 1600s. has been in india betty it's racism in london to the russian people british policy makers along with a british journalists as i said since the time that relations were established between london and moscow hundreds of years ago have saved russia have received the russian people as almost the devil incarnate when you have a look at how phone the 18 the hundreds hindsight is the official record of discussions in the house of commons the language the british parliamentarians used in 1000 concerts to describe czarist russia was almost identical to how british elements variance describe the soviet union and how the british policy of parliament for instance going to be in russia today in swing. c. $21.00 so there isn't a sense of anglo-saxon superiority in britain and was

a sense that russia is from the ace russia represents the dark forces of the east which have historically france and the freedom and independence and civilization of the west and in syria the foreign b.j. 7 foreign ministers 80 i write best statements there was nothing new there was nothing surprising they've kept so the narrative buckles one was what i was used to describe statements in whole is inversion they talk about saddam ocracy versus talk receive they talk about we talk received in russia they talk about it was august 8th in elevators but they don't refer so it was focused say in a saudi arabia all the other go from arab countries they don't talk about that because saudi arabia and other gulf countries are some of them most important friends and allies in the world and it should be said pizza basanti arabia for instance is not just one of the most kids of countries in the uk it is the laden

finance or islamist terrorism in the wells and when they spoke about when the g 7 foreign minister spoke about up hold in ukraine's independence and democracy well what's a bounce in the late c. files and 1st state when american politicians including the lives of john mccain flew to care and addressed the protesters on the mike then encouraging them sued over from the elected governments the elected president of ukraine at the time namely unico fits that was the ultimate affronts to ukrainian democracy so they can nothing about democracy what they do care about however is preserving western global answer money really about russia's effect so that it's very easy that we hear all of this that this threat to ukraine's sovereignty demand break. if it if the evil legal overthrow of the constitutional government hadn't happened in

february of 2014 then well crimea and the dumb ass would still be part of ukraine so i mean it's the it's the the the spinelessness of the e.u. not keeping to its agreement of how a transition of power in ukraine which you know that you preach to and then of course a tory newman with her cookies i mean there once the gist of it changed forever in my opinion ukraine sovereignty so why does everybody pointing the finger at the if at the end russia when it's a western powers they broke up ukraine. is a maze and you know what you just mentioned before he was the west seems to be how blind when talking about who created that there is additional the european parliament against it and if they are in regimes from 2100 let me call a member countries should fight historical revisionism and. not succumb or greet us

insall e.u. member states well in ukraine there is no law that received people including foreign us from insulting you know or investigate such organizations as the ukrainian insurgent army especially going to zation says they are going to a safe new green and nationalist organizations which ask israel are responsible for the more steerable atrocitus it is draws against falls off all and end of course against russians entities ukrainians by the way to koreans who didn't agree with bonde there and other people who of course cooperated with the nazis and who are no go or if i can ukraine and be you doesn't know just if you know they g 7 foreign ministers don't know just that funny and of course they i do magick and i want you to continue to mark as you know it if it took germany and israel. an insulin scheme ukraine to last sightly speak out or even mention the fact that there is

a glorification of naziism in ukraine today in 2021 oh yes he did it and it's not you know history is so easily forgotten by these people and they talk about the famine in ukraine in the early thirty's because of the cliff you raise asian which is a fact but the white wash their extremist nationalism or western ukrainians we hear of our family from west ukrainian nationalists who are part of the war and and finally here and who of course didn't go through the famine in the early thirty's they were persecuted by the poorest government which was very right just very authoritarian and that is easy for women in the west but of course they didn't see the family and you know their region for ukraine that suffered from the famine are now warm and destroyed by the ukrainian central government because these are considered to be broad russian regions but what you mentioned i think is very

important you know the 18th you a bit if you go returned to russia you know if we go even earlier than the diplomatic relations which mark was just gripe i think this is important for ireland to table the table is actually a wrong translation of his nickname he was rather ivan the threatening are that are in the strong so i want the terrible wanted to marry the queen elizabeth in this century actually addressed her a letter and she refused saying that the parliament doesn't allow her to she doesn't even in a poll kristie she lives in a democracy so the parliament don't throw out a primary i would be able and the funny thing is that i would that they will believe that of course it was not true which you know elizabeth the 2nd chance for power in your country it was the previous council they just cited everything not a parliament but. he is this terrible and this very strange you know all. the

rage of us all russians to believe you know that the west has democracy it's just inevitable and it still continues in some parts of our society today i think that story is very important symbolic of it and how democracy and fall final point on the same day went just sound was awesome this you know making these speeches about russia has been rather clear sound aggressive saudia the guardian published an opinion poll conducted in 53 contests by a lot on appointing company and it turned out that 44 percent of the respondents in the 53 congress or the world can see the united states as the main threat to their democracy that it was you know china was a distant 2nd with just 38 percent and russia was the warmest 28 percent so people of the wall do not conceive the russia or china threat to their democracy as they consider the united states and watch great threat and this is what the

polls show by the leads in the west especially and as you said that's so detached from their own populations that they keep feeding people the same story you know they were ok and then you asked us perpetrators don't you moris your russia in china has authoritarian congress and this is how did a debate it doesn't reflect their mood in society anymore nearly but marcus i mean these are the same people that talk democracy but they can't force regime change they break international law left and right and the rules apply to everyone else but not ourselves i mean that is that's in that cell ok because it's power we have the power and we can see what we want to do that's essentially what it's all about . absolutely that's for america guys america and britain on the international stage it is. are out how are influence and wealth and that is why they are exempt sincere falsify history but out in the soviet union's role in both

will search and that is why they are there kicks in the day as almost the devil incarnate it does not make sense for the american and british relates to on the one hand tell their respective papers that it was the soviet union which all the brunt of the van back and forth about the end of nazi germany but on the other hand to then say boston today photos is a terrible friend to freedom and independence of america and britain so they have to keep on depicts in russia in an extremely negative way and at the same time falsified the history of mobile search and limits for going about democracy in britain well let's have a closer examination of that shall wait is the head of the british state's elected not is the uk house of the british parliaments the house of lords elect is no better is not much the ma chrissy in princeton democracy in britain is merely

a facade and yet so many words in a british people are this she dropped it found the realities of the country and also the same applies to the american people and when it comes to falsifying history well if the american and british elites who are i should say totally detached on the opinions of their respective publics if they're going to force a fight a simple human biology namely that is not just males and females they are genders out there is more of it easy for bands of falsified the true for outs what happened in ukraine or what happened in bella who's lost it is an extremely the presence state of affairs even more the present it's exceptionally dangerous because. able ministry of truth it's backed up by big checks i mean that's their world and we're

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