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if. you. prefer more of this what. i heard a blast some kind of powerful bang even the windows were gratifying i thought there was a gas explosion somewhere i looked outside and saw no smoke anywhere and it turned out that it was at the school when we got a call we were so terrified and ran there immediately to collect our granddaughter they say that the shooter is from our building i talked to another neighbor he said

he couldn't imagine that guy doing such a thing he was just an ordinary bookish person with glasses i cannot understand why he chose the school why my granddaughter is crying nonstop she said only in the 1st great and right after the instant she could not even speak she was in such shock. i was bringing our tears i don't know hawkins now for the update on this breaking news dan you've been covering this from the get go now it's been approximately 5 hours can you bring us up to speed on everything you know now that basically a mass shooting at a school in. the capital of toys r us the republic it's about 800 kilometers from moscow this incident took place gymnasium college number 175 started between 9 and 10 am in the morning while children were in the middle of the early classes initial reports indicated the possibility of multiple attackers of explosions of firing going on on multiple floors across the whole school that was later proven to be untrue there was only one attacker and he's now been captured and he's in custody in police custody. with

the investigation ongoing in terms of casualties the latest figures 7 children and one teacher have tragically lost their lives 21 are injured in hospital 13 of those are stable and 8 of those critical so those casualties could still go up we do have some eyewitness accounts of what exactly was going on on the floor the shooter made his way throughout the school one of the children that was inside at the time this is what they had to say for you i saw a broken window and the children began to get out of there are the teachers began to quickly take them out of the windows i saw a boy tried to jump from the 3rd floor but then he climbed back someone else drug problem window i heard shots i don't know 5 or 7 times and then it became quiet and the police began to arrive and they started to climb onto the rooftop i woke up abruptly from the explosion and the sound of breaking glass from my balcony and so

the windows of the school blown out sort children fleeing apparently the teachers began to evacuate them through the windows someone was jumping from one window i also heard the muffled sounds of gunfire i think a trait immediately called the emergency services but it was busy apparently people had already started calling after about 10 minutes police and ambulances started arriving the students got out quickly and ran over to the school fence i heard about $5.00 to $7.00 shots then it was quiet and the police were there 2 of them were climbing up to the roof checking to see if the suspect was there after that other emergency services began to arrive then when the emergency services arrived and surrounded the site they began to evacuate the classrooms people came out in shock stood there and could not do anything they were taken away i saw emergency workers carrying out the wounded on stretchers. well that was the scene in and around the school from eyewitnesses parents of course racing to the building to see

if their children were of all that has anything they can do to help one of course those scenes of children lying outside the school on the ground as bystanders try to offer 1st aid some of those we've had to blur out purely because they're so distressing to watch this is every parent's absolute worst nightmare they can possibly think of for we've got some reports from one local journalist threw up at the scene just as that security operation was at its height now around 2 hours ago this is the report he gave us about 9 am i heard several loud bangs from the school area i live nearby after the shots there was a pause for about 2 minutes and then another round of bangs about 10 overall after that there was the sound of an explosion then students proceed on mass running away from the school the security services acted very quickly in about 10 minutes we heard sirens then namby lynn says right and started treating the injured after about 40 minutes the area was cordoned off while nearby kindergartens were evacuated. lissa curity response was very quick and that may have contributed in

part to the shooter surrendering himself we saw some videos earlier from leaving the school with his hands in the air and subsequently being detained there one of the videos you can see officers he's now being questioned in custody he's going to get a mental health assessment because as you mentioned earlier he was mentioning that . he is god there is a monster within him he's not of this world he doesn't have a mother or father and all very erratic and. unexpected strange behavior indicative of some sort of mental health issues and questions are going to be raised how he managed to get hold of his weapon his this was a license to escort a shotgun it's causing a lot of damage in the wrong hands especially close range when operating in such close environment corridors classrooms packed full of children. yet this is a far arm he held legally that he had lost and for he was someone who attended

a local farms club when he was able to purchase 150 rounds of ammunition at a gun shop before this attack seemingly preparing for. obviously cost the lives of these children the president of the republic was on the scene within an hour as well this is the comment he gave the local media. first of all this is a huge tragedy we've lost 7 sure great 8 students 4 boys 3 girls they died right here on the 3rd floor. authorities have announced the day of mourning tomorrow the 12th of may and this will go down as one of the darkest days in the republic small history and well the truth is simply that this is not the only mass shooting that has shocked russia or is it well russia was not a country you'd normally associate with mass shootings especially in schools and this is not the only incident in recent years many people will hark back

immediately to october 28th and the republic of crimea in quetta shura 18 year old bloodiest laugh cough entered a school building would exactly the same farmer and escort shotgun and killed 20 pupils and teachers over 16 is the reason that particular incident questions are going to be re-used could this have been a copycat attack may have been inspired by this this is speculation we just don't know at this stage and of course going further back to beslan of 2004 the school hostage crisis there a day that's been etched deeply in the memories of any russian until this day. will give us more clues as to this individual's motives it's going to raise questions about school security of parents already calling. the police the emergency services they think why are there no guards at all school we could be next and that was certainly the fear as the attack took place could there be further attacks happening across the city across the republic across russia thankfully that's not

happened or initial reports of multiple attacks were proven to be false and untrue the police have this under control relatively quickly but questions are going to be asked and rather putin has already sent both his condolences and issued orders for authorities to look again into what farms are licensed for civilian use in russia should these laws be looked at and change that altered to ensure this never happens again. as we've said this is still a situation that is. although it's over on the ground. it will be developing certainly for the parents for the victims for the families of those involved as they seek answers as to how this could have happened right artist on your organs with it is on the breaking news here in our international thank you. thank you for joining us here on the program a video of the shooter has now emotion showing him entering the school it's most online this video here of the local investigative committee says it will launch

a psychiatric review of the perpetrator no motive has yet truly been established and police have already questioned the suspect in another video shot online the attack i claimed he realized he was a dog 2 months ago and last summer he started hating everyone because he said a monster had awakened inside of him however he stressed he had reached that conclusion on his own and no one made him think that way what we heard from the neighbors over the side of the shooter in question. but we met this boy before he's our neighbor and i remember his face i noticed that he had a very intelligent appearance he was a very tidy i've never seen him heading out with any dubious people he was a very quiet guy and i always saw him all by himself not with friends not with a girl he was a good boy and also always so quiet he also held me in the past with the tassel language i don't know why he became like this i don't know what happened to him i would never have thought it was him is not

a very good and well mannered family i only had a good opinion of him still don't see the point i was just sitting at home and heard some kind of explosion i looked out of the window everyone was running somewhere so i also went outside to look i went up to the school everyone was already carrying the children out everyone was covered in blood then i tried to go back to my house so they wouldn't let me i saw police coming in with dogs. or less across large enough mr martin mccauley and all of russia joining us live here on r.t. international mater what reaction would you expect to today's tragic events in russia president putin has already spoken about reviewing various gun laws but will it go further it's not the 1st school shooting in the country after. let me express my condolences to all the theory from his 1st of all secondly it's almost impossible

to protect every school in the country from something like this because we don't know yet his motive and mental disturbance on the next question would be how did he get hold of a weapon and the next one would be there was an explosion of explosion before start it now when that bomb would do that that was come from and so on was he a member of a group he wanted fun of course say that he did it on his own in some blue shirt and leave the f.s.b. to discover if in fact he was or he was influenced by a group who could be lead to terrorism that is the key question is a terrorist attack or is it someone who was mentally disturbed and he had a gun and he went in and he killed people and so on. now the question arises then why did that occur to him why did he go into a school and kill him or her children because this type of thing happens on 14 you have

a regular basis in united states that had insurance and now we can do that he and i can do that here and it's our own these are questions which one country i'm sure president and was he acted on his own or was it a 2nd person in both people involved that those are the questions for the ins the security services have to go into in depth because primitive the 1st series of interviews will in fact that if he was in fact truth it to say what happened then he will repeat all that what they thought of his have to dig deep into find out who's really motive was who was behind it and so on but again i would say from experience in other countries it's impossible to take all screws. everywhere because somebody who may be the range or be a terrorist. now how can a tech school because if you took a school your tech the parents and you bring enormous pain. to the parents and

children so this in fact attacking killing children is in fact one of them are to society and then say well the security service is going to take those and so on and we want greater security of letter from. a political point of view he would in fact i suspect tighten the gun rules but now. they are saying we're going to tighten the gun laws in the united states but it's still continues and unfortunately this seems to be something which has produced throughout the world and mainly in the western world and if you're good it will. look how you start with. a person just what would more you could do is to monitor people time really getting and if they show. signs of mental illness. usually state and says i'm going to kill someone i'm going to kill all russians and we could all kind of now let's you be reported to the authorities no question

should be examined well i'd like to shake the shame is the shame is martin that this this shooter had already been medically evaluated you're emotionally analyzed as well and assess that but then after after he gets the gun he then realizes that he's a god that a monster has just woken up inside of him part and there are regrettably many parallels to similar cases around the world some people are asking why aren't lessons being learned each time but my question to you as what kind of lessons do we need to learn from a shooting like this. for the kind of lesson would be there to monitor every citizen in your country. and you say to anyone everyone if you hear someone using this term a part of language that you have ever gone found dead a mission to go out and kill people and so on you were plucked out of person to the authorities and then it's up to them their job and that's best he said positions us saying that they have to gain publicity they make example appear in court and you

have this problem with with the shooters and with terrorism then there are people who don't regard themselves as successful in society and that's all they want to do something which will make them famous from their point of view can make them famous and if they do this then that makes them famous to us infamous but they think that makes them turn it favors this goes round the world and the more the more publicity hit the more t.v. coverage there is of this time shooting the more likelihood that somebody somewhere would in fact say i can do that why did i do that because they now lives obviously are not going to successful and they have these problems how do you succeed in our society and societies hold me back you have all these problems with with if you're a complex depression and so on and militant islam can sort of as a problem. authorities is which are possible impossible for them to cover at all because you can sure that you're going to go through great stages and i remember

being it's who. you get sent and sent and they just 7 people say well i'm going to do out of 10000 to him because i don't like and so on he didn't really believe it it's just somebody pushed against on so the authorities the medical people who have problems here 20 cent of these are to see what they want attention they want to become famous want to get themselves into a vision on a nuisance so on and to what extent is. really deep so quickly. a problem. in the case of this shooter. who should examine didn't in fact you were there but because people you call people would always say i'm going to do it and this person could know i've heard something small do you want to lose and someone. who is brutal. there was influence.

to. the should be you know which will too much violence. it's disturbing. there's no way you can stop the. killing the company is still doing it and you can't really do that new government can really control it so that the problem with the social media is that you have a violent 100 if you look at the films a really violent. person is slightly mentally ill all the freedoms that he wants to become a hero in his own heart is he little good for that and the influence of that so it's a huge blow to live through his mouth and i think i think what you various quite a good point here because one of the issues is that a lot of the children today and i don't mean teenagers i mean kids they like to spend a lot of time online playing these online games where they're mostly should amount

games where they're going around in this in this software world with guns and they're essentially killing people and these are some of the most popular video games in the world today off already say that a psychiatric assessment will be made of the suspect but the neighbors they describe the suspect as being a quiet young man a bookish appearance not someone you would expect to be on any radar and yet this is a i think it's safe to say a premeditated 1st attack a couple of months ago he gets this gun he then he starts thinking that he's a god he finds a monster has woken up inside of him. are there certain signs of behavior martin that people can be on the lookout for when someone is so quiet and studious looking but then all of a sudden comes out and starts killing children at a local school but what kind of fly exist should be there to look for do you think . well you can do is to monitor people because when people are very very quiet and they don't really express their views and so on. then we've got

a shot and how do you then read somebody's out for a living. overcome the shyness you then go into public speaking you ask and then to talk and you can you address a meeting and you can you talk to students and so on so the question then becomes if you like more and socialize you become more not more more no more. but if a person is very very quiet because you find this round the world that those people those people who choose to become the murders of children and so on were originally they were very quiet and then it becomes very angry but this anger is not expressed straight away because that would give it away and then finally it blows up within them and then they have a kind of they want all these video games to as you said it was a really violent you know killing or this and i'm actually become desensitized.

to that and they're going to think this kid somewhere is really all that terrible because on on the a video game you just kill them and that's most part of the game all these war games are going to war games because there are now violence. and one doesn't know yet what effect this is having on the younger generation worldwide because this is not a russian problem some american problem the british public what is the impression what impression with these video games is violence what you see all the time on television however have on the present generation of young people as they grew up and then they tend to asian were being made to regard violence of gullible and trying to get out and shoot somebody well that happens in video games you know that happens all the time and become desensitized. there's no shame no inclusion of them you do it because you want to become somebody and its mission in america is very

hard for somebody who's been turned down by a good. because who knows he's been. through or is really held back because he's not going to regret going to. the side and now your thought is not to look out but if you notice who. will teachers. we. workers working in this who. doesn't always produce say a 1000 people who's going to school who i don't know who. is this good ones who was mission impossible while the teachers and the medical services really to monitor them all people and usually change over time but as you say or as you said martin there you can i mean you can increase security to a certain level but you can't allow a country to turn into a police surveillance state when you mentioned

a few moments ago about children today playing these shoot 'em up games online i mean we're talking millions of kids around the world are playing these online games they sit at home they put on their headphones of the small microphone they're playing online with their mates who live down the street or in another part of the world and literally they're earning bonus points because the main theme of the game is to kill as many people as you can now add into that the whole pandemic and the mass lockdown and countries around the world i know i have family and friends in the united kingdom they've been locked down for many many months and their children have been online playing games similar to what you or me have been talking about does this create a concern among the parents today or just in general population about the youth of today they're getting perhaps the wrong influences they've been locked down for too long they're getting restless as you say perhaps they feel that killing is not so wrong after all. yes well i'm staying with a family of 3 boys and they're 13 in july all 3 of them are on the computer playing

all the games all the time and i say i said in them you know why did you do something else you know i like this this is great and there are some that america's and they know the american flag and they get used to the american culture and so on but they just love it as. kids around the world love this type of well as attainment and it's vision you can't really stop them because if you're a fan and then go to their friends and play the games with their friends so you can't really do that so it is a major problem nobody yet you know milly psychiatrist have been able to work out yet what effect all this will have on the present generation of youth because you could argue that they're becoming desensitized to killing the sense is out there too there's no shame in killing somebody and causing mayhem until you see them you

know but when you can stop it if you kill a child what about the parents what a good mother and father when but the other children and families it's actually different stating for them aren't you in fact causing tremendous tremendous pain and they don't seem to have any observe relit people that's one of the key factors you'd be looking at if there is an official. medical people in schools you're looking for children who have revealed no empathy for other children. the loneliness the people who don't like other people that are going to friends no i don't like them and if somebody wants to be friends with them they say go away i don't want you and so on so somebody who is not develop a kimber thing is in fact dangerous because then that person is desensitized towards the suffering of others and he will save himself i have to. you can do some do you know them now give me a group through and remember that hate hate is

a very powerful movie going to be fools and. how. they're going to be all jews he is going to. do you know what you see. in this because. it really. looks right out there right there as you say martin that the police did speak to the shooter and he basically said that it was months ago he started hating everyone around and as you say hate is a very very strong emotion and it can drive people to do terrible things martin mccauley author russia unless you've made some very interesting points today thank you very much for joining us here on r.t. international thank you. well thank you for joining us as well let's just give you a recap of our breaking news from russia this hour where the latest numbers stand at this at least 8 people including 7 children and one teacher have been killed 16 others injured in a mass shooting at a school in ca's on this according to the press service of the touchstone republic

which goes on of course as the capital of the city is located around 800 kilometers from moscow the perpetrator has been captured you said to be a 19 year old who according to reports had a gun legally registered in his name and children were quickly evacuated from the site of the earth or to say everything there is now under control and early reports suggested the school was also hit by an explosion while here at r.t. international of course r.t. dot com we will keep you posted on this breaking news today from russia. americans love. this was a fundamental part of how our political leadership and our country at large understood

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