ult on truth you've pointed out that the strained relationship that johnson has with the last city just a few weeks after that damning indictment his cock of the walk is masterfully surveys he's laid the labor party law in england what is going on well 1st of all i think the next we have to say this is a very huge political achievement in angel. for the british prime minister i mean they were speeding at a moment when he earlier to be doing quite well as an incredibly bad actually. what is going on in terms of for truth the british people has made all the english 3 people one should say have made a really quite interesting decision they have a good reason to suppose that he's very sleazy in the sense that as one inquiry after another and see his personal misconduct in dining streets and as prime minister and they decided it's it doesn't matter and this is

a new thing in british politics we haven't had it in my lifetime but it's not a simple explanation if you look at the results in the free nations mark day for the wales nicholas stajan wedding in scotland bala stunts the wedding and anyone isn't the public just commenting on the the handling of well the vaccination program in particular isn't this just a thank you to the 3 political leaders who have taken the country through the pandemic. yes and these aren't just the land mass a nation marries in times of emotions near a national crisis like damage there's a national disaster for people to look towards that their leaders and in the case of mr mr johnson he's considered sort of done well i don't think he did at all if he you know we know that he completely failed state council of the year didn't turn

the 1st 5 k. over meetings on this emergency and made a total nonsense of the of the early stages and i bet you heard there is a general fact that you know kate in times than most would see people vote for their leaders and like them even of a don't deserve support it's the perhaps a disconnect for between political journalism and the public attitude some in the last 2 weeks of these election campaigns they totally party were under great pressure because of the activities of mr johnson and a deed has paid assess a list of common about lobbying scandals and this sort of thing but the public don't seem to care one iota about that sort of stuff without the a correct reading of the situation. the reading which you just described is the one which is being pumped now by mr johnson's allies in dining strace and b r in other words we have another mass of mr johnson's lying and he

is chasing and so on and the star east and the and he is relationship with tory jonas and very concerning the the redecoration downing street then of the masses of voices spoken and i think it is true to the extent that. you know we heard faces speak day by day they put it there on the masses on the doorstep covais but on the other hand that is not a reason not syrian tera get sick not sit to interrogate what mr johnson's how he spends his money and die history who's giving him money alone he embodies all proper questions for journalists to us it is the west mids and polish you as a lot some sort of the connect between for journalists and newspapers believed to be important and what their general public vote on as important that's

a very profound question because it is true that most journalists politicians policymakers in general civil servants tend to live in the great metropolises whereas most is a scattered everywhere and they they have a different perspective mother hand i think for us the average person may discover that mr johnson has been lying to them and the brassy hasn't mean this wonderful economic triumph for each he sentenced the project. and there is going to come a moment when reality and the world created by johnson which he projects very effectively if particularly in northern areas a good part company and people are already seeing him so the poor areas like it can the promises across england job to stronger businesses so we are living in

a sort of fantasy world that many were made many ways of a moment how long that will assist the net the peril of you've been noted for your command of of sweeping views of politics one of the most influential thoughts on early 20th century the political developments of england was the strains death of little england as it was called can you explain though this strange death of the labor party in all of them what an f. is going on the book you refer to that george dangerfield strange death of fruit liberal england's. suggesting that britain was heading to for some form of revolution before 1948 and they only escaped from mr militias by all coverage traipsing off to the great tragedy in world war one and it was going to be a working class revolutions and labor party suffragettes were causing my hand and i

forget what of the leg of darkness that dr james i do recommend the book wonderful rate. the strange gentleman labor party. brix it a stream a problem for the labor party and so what if you look at hartley pool which was a safe later seat. the racers well and some of the personal they voted grass it and i remember many of them were labor and the night they all got almost unanimously to the consensus that's the immediate problem the longer problem i think is tony blair mr blair can prime minister advice by that political genius peter mandelson in 1970 and the basic strategy was that you completely know what your base fate is the working class you devote your strategy to appealing to a well known simply small number of middle class folk who is swing the election in your direction and that's what took tony blair did very successfully where in the

medium term the effects of this was to betray the working class the trade your core vote and many of those voters felt despise and for the time being they ended up with mr johnson's conservative party they've abandoned labor and that is not something you can blame on cash or jeremy called in or in media than that are his a direct result of the very cynical strategy adopted by tony blair and though that mr johnson has triumphant over the labor party in much of the and is he now going to tighten his sights to the last the day out of labor's a little wales and what about in scotland where the independents and the s.n.p. reception is list of johnson going to the deal with these upstart some of the celtic nations. you keep on asking really difficult questions.

and it probably too vague too difficult to be certain but it feels like mr johnson by mistake in some ways as if they are leading a sort of english national its movement. and that being the case he is the biggest possible gift you would have to be independence movement in wales and indeed in scotland the way he talks of the union you know the olsen fulsome is flippant it doesn't i know what's wrong unionists but it is flippancy it doesn't pay it proper respects as things through the historic nature of the union and what it means and is full of clever ideas and he doesn't have a proper sense of what the union is so would you draw a contrast then between the unionism of let's say david cameron and the union has a lot of modest johnson yes i think that david cameron for all of his full set of

genuine commitments and almost commitment and belief to be a union voice johnson is a more opportunistic politician and the one example involves out of the not so. scarlet a c. theresa may when she was prime minister. structured jail because she realised that she couldn't do any damage that the friday agree and she really respected the nature of the union in northern ireland boris johnson smashed that dear mrs mrs maggs and the reason he did that was opportunistic create things in order to dismantle her leadership she did have a respect for union which you can see johnson did in that sense. so would just say that what is done to the has a past no culpability for the instability that we see no in northern ireland and is

there any awareness and only state that he might be of that responsibility there's no sense as another thing which makes johnson unusual when none are no no but unusual in my mum on british prime minister as he there's no sense of shame and really no sense of responsibility he uses is a brilliant use of language when he uses it for one task or short and after another and when events to find out as he predicted all so they would he's moving along so fast the train is moving such a clattering pace into the everybody forgets the promises and pledges decisions he made use of the limits he's a massive hole he surprises and brilliance urkel technique is the most awful prime minister since tony blair in you know me to the iraq war yes

a sort of dominance one thing which we haven't mentioned is the press which should play to the british media errantry which is played a major role in cementing this situation and projecting mr johnson's aura and not questioning his lies and not exposing his cronyism and slease it's a bit but that is in the moment you cannot his prodigious my slate is as powerful in a fashion once he has the senate remember after that great victory all over blair after 2001. join us after the break where alex continues his discussion to talk journalist peter oborne with you today.

we've been saying now for years that all this money printing would cause inflation but we didn't really see it at the level of the c.p.i. consumer price index and well because the c.p.i. doesn't reflect the actual prices of stuff the people you state typically quote prices of stuff that people don't use and they don't include housing or health care or education for example. and that works for a while but now it's really hard to hide the fact that the money printing is

causing a lot of inflation as you would expect so now the big question is do we take the word of the side of the bank who is saying that it's transitory and that this is a sugar high and that things are not going to last in this way or do we think that this might be a structural beginning of an inflationary period possibly a period of stagflation because the economy can be stagnant. welcome back to the issue where alex continues his discussion with peta over. so let's reflect more generally peter roebuck kenya dent if i the softer of techniques that you phone store fence of the late lies the manipulation of the of the media is that something new in politics or is it just something that's got modern techniques to make all the more pernicious politics has been invested by very rich man who

will boss be political parties and have started to control to buy he used politics as a form of. of investment and getting for selfish greedy reasons to get contracts to get a room wards in the house of lords to get owners and so politics has become could be captured by greet that association i think will further rise of near liberalism but it's not the same thing. george osborne made this remarkable statement are sure to hear david cameron he's a little more than i think faction became gain control of the conservative party in 2005 us was that i didn't how easy it would be to take over the conservative party as it was him to hear him can translate and taken over and that sense of honor and

service and just vanished with that remark and the modernizers attracts it's these vulgar unscrupulous backers who work in politics in order to suit in some cases to skew that blue ideological agenda i don't know cases to just make money when contracts received not this enormous number of tory donors who treat given contracts the pickerel but if you talk as if this is a new development with a go back to the days of monday gregory who was busy selling a lot of those and pillages for lloyd jobs unsteadily baldwin i was convicted of a lot was a way back in the 1920 s. so what is different no compared to them or tell you one difference i'm not going to name any contemporary names you'll be relieved to know for legal reasons but he was convicted of it is chosen to say that's right and center. and

nobody even raises an eyebrow. generally i think that's the. beauty of the standards of integrity which prevailed posts were watered particular when the cabinet secretary was a formidable figure in the that you process that the civil service process was very strong. that you really can't point to many instances of corruption and those that there were well punished like pools and for instance that the property development case or. profumo who lives parliaments and then you know resigned and went into charity where there's a much higher code of public honor. and the political parties were not in the hands of very rich men where they are not part of the rise of the party don't.

is being one of the most maligned streets is a public right now in this assault on truth you meticulously detail there the cases where the privacy of those turns there's been a variance with the actuality that it is this really again something a start to abolish dunson a woman when you simulate a critical of a tony blair has been dr alice to campbell i mean isn't this just a continuation of a trend as opposed to something which is protect lee johnson esque. united may have very good points about tony blair id write a book by mr blair and his entourage and then that nothing is going to ever be as terrible as the lie about weapons of mass destruction which was used to justify an illegal war should be said mr glad the nice of this day that that when he was lying

about that he was simply he would say misinformed by the intelligence services i think that's what he says but after the bill blair episode. under gordon brown and david cameron to raise a may you didn't get this kind of lie that was a fall of the blair. and johnson is a different thing altogether he just fabricates all the time it's very like trump in that way almost of radiation in a joint you know there's lots of examples of making things up for the fun of it and . he i think this is a new scam. hardly care. public lying and. as i think it has a real problem here because it can last for so long but at the end of the day the who did it will become obvious to everybody that there is a large gap incredible gap between truth and reality but of course that one of

your better know ours that was dominic coming they asked while control of our 1st spend the millipede lation and only state now there has been a huge parting of the ways between the chairs and coming with mr johnson and indeed it was generally thought mr cummings was busy sticking the knife in before the elections it does the electoral results are settled mr cummings has as well you know this is a very interesting point do you raise because mr cummings is being blamed not least like mr johnson himself through wentz of the lengths of rigging up newspaper editors a few weeks ago and saying that the source of the beast story about him advices will paper and that sort of thing or was was mr cummings and of course now that he's had the selection trial mr johnson's allies are already will now say oh that will paper thing or the us the latest episode as the status inquiry and announce

that they into his holiday mistakes alas that man comics isn't visit their pretension to him and that is a way to try to divert attention from the fact that the integrity of the prime minister is and has i mean terribly old fashioned amass a real importance as moses says these things as a reason he did he do the will quite right as good to be a real a chance to say a certain british journalists and suit the world at large that somehow mr johnson has been handed a painting kit virus by the by the elections. i know you're a father a colleague of the prime minister and did of a highly complimentary about the skills as a as a journalist so you know him better than most spotless does and the the sort of man who goes home to doubting state and has a good laugh about the day's events or is a someone who who pours over what might be in there in the social media of the or

the next day's headlines is here what they are or is he devil may care on the basis of the chance and i knew the stretch very so when i worked for him as i was his little correspondent and he was the end he said you were in character i mean that is one of the greats redeeming features of the prime minister is that he wasn't over consumed by a sense of personal vendettas or you know what it was written about him in the papers all he would go back home and and be very good company i mean nice that is just so i know. where that he's still the case in downing street i couldn't possibly say because i graduated from you i have had an invitation. to your surprise big greatly that i haven't asked you peter over of us to convince unionist to do something which is very out of character i wanted to give some advice to nicholas stopped and hers had

a subtle or substantial election victory in scotland and this she sizes up bothers johnson and wonders how to take them on on the issue of the constitutional future the scotland what advice would you give to the start that. mr aujali has got a very natural course of action which is to undermine boris johnson by pointing out the very same are the one arguments he used for breast this and the arguments which of course undermined his own unionist case. and the sentencing she has in her. armory is that mr johnson's and this is something which does disturb me as a unions is that mr johnson's well documented record of lying not least about the s.n.p. . means that whatever e says in mary to surf referendum campaign is carries a 0 white's so let's move gently again a bit of above the a c.

a telling point in politics when you have well displayed good the solution to the some of these techniques of crept into politics how the parties have become and the ownership of the big dollars. that has the lighting developments across politics that do you think there's going to be a tumbling point the people of ensley say though or we're fed up with their slogan or elect a clean government party or do you think we're on the road to perdition to answer your question you have to understand what has happened to the fanservice if party is shaped change in being a pragmatic sensible new party union when you were never very. broadly based party to be something which is quite. quite a very right wing it's moved it into words the old right to use the jargon trance it just says that the republicans. in the united states.

today did it katie to waging a series of cultural wars economically it's just to dramatically of course to the left. and. if a war is remind you very much of all abound in hungary it is of clan soliciting a political leader which is to say he identifies supporters and wards them and then waits uses something very approaching hate speech to marginalize minorities is higher frightening new form of politics we have that it. in britain. and the question is what is going to stand up against it. and that is the problem which question has because i think yes i'm a close decent man but he's a not so far suggests everything is downstairs he's a very poor politician is not and you can't form

a broadly based party which does stand up for decency and does the liver on its promises. that will be very important favorite the moment mr johnson's unique brand of conservatism and i wouldn't even call it conservatism because for me the conservative party was the budget process in the giants speech scrupulous and honest mr johnson's conservatism is temporarily the new dominance new modem and forever nothing ever is. and finally then peter o'beirne where is the opposition going to come from is it going to come from the opposition parties at westminster is it going to become from a a revived press for the perhaps for the the social media is it going to come from the civic society isn't going to come from the celtic nations and who is finally going to say enough is enough we're putting a stop to this what i hear so i hope that the celtic nations are successful

in their own opposition i do think it's some point those games of be a break between mr johnson's to consider should says because he has a traditional tory heartland such a pragmatic middle of the road versus the low tax people of the home counties the shires arts of london and at the same time he's got a new constituency which is the former labor pursing working class which runs for massive public spending and quite likes mr johnson's brand of exhibitionists and can those 2 parts of a coalition remain together. obviously not and also no point forces that was mr johnson is never going to be able to rescue our people i mean by all all the hard nickels or are it britain he just isn't it isn't possible peter oborne thank you so

much for being such an insightful and entertaining guest on the alex salmon show that wasn't always a pleasure thank you alex. peter oldham has provided a pile a full critique of the techniques of modern government and indeed above us johnson's government in particular have the prime minister's continued electoral success provides a salad to the mind that the political scandal often fascinates the mainstream media is no substitute for the long term trends which dominate at the ballot box as some point realestate can see a supposition to johnsonville maps will it be from out of by the opposition at westminster will it be from the celtic nations will it be from the on like media will it be from civic society but the nature of whole is a political vacuum that opens the will of bats and what it does at the johnson train may well help the buffaloes. and so for now from to speed on the self and all

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